Park Board Minutes 2006 04-27-06 APPROVED
UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
YORKVILLE PARKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT BOARD MEETING
Parks & Recreation Administrative Offices Riverfront Building
Thursday, April 27, 2006
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
Meeting was called to order by Chris Rollins at 7:00 p.m,
ROLL CALL:
Chris Rollins, Ken Koch, Van Truman, Tammy Smock, Gary Golinski, and Alderman
Paul James
GUESTS/CITY OFFICIALS/STAFF:
David Mogle, Director
Scott Sleezer, Superintendent of Parks
Sue Swithin, Superintendent of Recreation
Dean Wolfer, Alderman
Gary Neyer, RMA, Inc.
David Branch, Hallmark
Tedd Lundquist, Sec. Planning
Jim Snyder, The Harlem Irving Co's
Rick Filler, The Harlem Irving Co's
John Philipchuck, Attorney, Richard Marker Assoc.
Donald Kage
Todd Skogen
Mike Schoppe, Schoppe Design
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
None
PRESENTATION:
Heartland Crossing
Revisions have been made to the concept plan that was last presented. There are now 35
fewer lots. Park site B has been expanded; park site D has more street frontage and is
also larger; and park site A will be a potential middle school, There have been some
additional trails added also. The developer requested to get credit for the bike path
easement and credit for fees over and above the park land donations.
The path along Aux Sable Creek would have to be pulled pretty far away from the creek
in order to stay out of the hundred year flood plain, which somewhat loses the purpose of
the path following the creek, In order to build the path up to keep it near the creek, for
whatever amount of land built up, one and a half times that amount must be grated
accordingly. Reengineering the path to keep it high and dry is Parks and Recreation's
first choice, but would keep in consideration staying within the ten year flood plain. The
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drainage profile is changing with all of the construction so we may not be able to rely on
what the typical drainage has been. In order to help male a decision, Scott Sleezer
requested information on where the ten year flood plain would be and what a standard
year would be like so they would have an idea of how many times a year the path would
be flooded..
Parks and Recreation could use some of the neighborhood trails to supplement the
regional trails. However, they will not credit the developer for the entire trail system
shown on the map because they do not have a use for it all. They would like linkage to
the school site, linkage to the park sites, and linkage to the commercial area.
The developer is looking for 26 acres in credit towards their land cash contribution for all
of the open space and trails. All of the trails in that area make up T8 miles so 19 acres is
being requested for credit for trails. Van Truman indicated that it is important to identify
which corridors that Parks and Recreation wants. These trails will be owned by HOA. It
is their policy that if a trail is land locked and does not offer any entrance for the general
public to use and does not lead somewhere, it does not get credit. Trails that are in lieu of
sidewalk also do not get credit. Parks and Recreation will give 100%credit for a 20 foot
wide swap and for designated 10 foot trails if they are built to standards.
The corridor for the Aux Sable Regional Path cannot get decided right now, but Parks
and Recreation would probably like to own this corridor. It may not be built when the
subdivision is built because they may be able to get a grant for it. Van Truman suggested
that they take a broader scope of it to see if one side of the creek is better than the other to
use, even if it is in the ten year flood plain. Typically, however, Parks and Recreation
does not give credit for trails that are not high and dry.
The 19 acres for the school site was only presented to Superintendent Dr. Engler, not to
the School Board. Alderman Paul James believes that this should be presented to the
entire School Board and to make this ajoint school/park site. He believes the school
structure could be on four acres and the school board could receive land cash for the
remaining acres (which would be about $1..2 million) so that Parks and Recreation can
build the park site with input from the school for what they need with a joint use
agreement. Parks and Recreation would like to be full and open partners with the School
Board. There needs to be an overall agreement with schools. They would like to have a
combination City Council, School Board, and Park Board meeting. But in the process,
they must keep an eye on land cash. They may want eight acres for Parks and eight acres
for School so they would have the money to build what is needed. They will try to set up
the meeting for the next Park Board meeting,possibly at a different location, with this
being the only item on the agenda. A letter will be drafted to the School Board president
and will include the mayor.
Hallmark flontes Concept Plan
David Branch presented the property consisting of 350 acres. He had met with Travis
Miller and a few others from the City to present the plan, but David Mogle and Scott
Sleezer were not at that meeting. To utilize the time better, the Board unanimously
agreed to table the discussion on this development until David Mogle and Scott Sleezer
have an opportunity to meet Mth David Branch.
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Kendall Marketplace
Rick Filler presented the conceptual plan for Kendall Marketplace. The residential area
is very conceptual compared to the retail, The intent is to take the entire plan through the
process at once, The City requested to dedicate ten acres of land to the police station.
There is a five acre park dedication, Parks and Recreation already have in their master
plan to add ball fields attaching to Cannonball Park. Parks and Recreation anticipated
having more homes in this area and a smaller commercial development. They will still
probably extend the park, but not in a perfect rectangle,. They also may consider putting a
bike path/walking path around the wet detention area. Another idea mentioned was that
this may be a good place for tennis courts or the possibility of a field house. They will
meet at a staff level to look into everything.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The minutes from the April 13, 2006 Board meeting was approved on motion by Van
Truman and seconded by Tammy Smock. The motion was unanimously approved.
BILLS REVIEW:
Cash Analysis & Bills List
The check for Ero-Tex is for the replacement of what was burned at Cannonball. The
police department has caught the people who had done this and the City will seek
restitution, It was about$1,000 worth of damage.
Gary Golinski motioned to approve the bills list and was seconded by Ken Koch. Roll
call vote: Chris Rollins—Yes, Ken Koch—Yes, Van Truman—Yes, Tammy Smock—
Yes, and Gary Golinski—Yes, The motion was unanimously approved.
OLD BUSINESS:
Greenbriar Pond
An e-mail was received by Ron Kalina who is trying to resolve the problem of algae
growth at Greenbriar Pond. His request is for Parks and Recreation to purchase an
aerator to resolve the problem. This, however, would not resolve the problem. It would
only push the algae to the side and mosquitoes could still breed there. Putting up
vegetation around the pond could resolve the problem, but this type of vegetation is very
expensive. It would cost approximately $50,000 to do this and it would take three to five
years maintenance for it to take full effect.
This pond was originally supposed to be owned by the homeowners. The homeowners
told the City that they did not want it and forced the City to own it. Technically, the
people who live there should be taking care of it and should be paying for it. This area
did have an SSA but it was not implemented correctly, so it did not stand. If it will cost
$50,000 to rectify the situation, this money should come from the City, not from Parks
and Recreation since Parks and Recreation did not ask for this and they do not have it in
the budget to permit it. If there were an inexpensive way to fix this, Parks and Recreation
would do this.
David Mogle suggested having an expert come in and inform Parks and Recreation of the
cheapest and most efficient way possible to eliminate the problem. Parks and Recreation
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will do the research and find out the costs. This will be a positive way to respond to Mr.
Kalina. Chris Rollins would like to see the homeowners bear some of the costs. Gary
Golinski will find out NvIiat his HOA uses for treating the pond in his area. Scott Sleezer
pointed out, however, that if just chemicals are put into the pond, the fish will not
survive. The homeowners will need to make a decision on what they want.
There is a clean lakes grant that Scott Sleezer will also look into.
FY06-07 Budget
The budget did pass but it was not an easy task. In order to get the vehicle for recreation,
adjustments needed to be made within the Parks and Recreation budget. It involved
reducing preschool salaries by $5,000, reducing contractual payments by $4,000, taking
$2,000 out of Parks wearing apparel, and taking $1,000 out of Parks professional growth.
The total $12,000 was moved to the reserve fund which was originally set up for the
proceeds from the golf outing. By doing this Parks and Recreation will be able to
purchase the vehicle for recreation and still have proceeds in that reserve account to
pursue a recreational bus in the future,
There was question on the cell phone usage. The overall dollars did not change much.
The $1,800 for wearing apparel for staff in the administrative office was originally given
to Parks and Recreation for special recreation. But since United Way helped resolve the
specific situation, they took that $1,800 away and gave it to the police department
instead.
There were a lot of questions asked to justify why Parks and Recreation needed a van. It
would be in Parks and Recreation's best interest to keep a log of how the vehicle is being
used to show justification for the vehicle.
Sue Swithin had some concerns on the way the vehicle was purchased, If this was on the
asset replacement program for capital expenditures on the recreation side, she should not
have had to pull operating money out of recreations budget.
NEW BUSINESS:
Kylyn Ridge Trail Concerns
Todd Skogen and Donald Kage carne to represent fifteen homeowners of Kylyn's Ridge
that are against having a trail behind their homes. They would at least like to see the trail
thirty feet farther away from their homes, They are proposing purchasing the land behind
their homes. It was thought that according to the land cash ordinance, it makes it illegal
for Parks to sell their land. The City Attorney is looking into this.
The intent of this trail is to get linkage to the north/south Rob Roy Regional Trail. This
plan for the trail was in the master plan before homes were even built there. When Parks
and Recreation buy land, they do not always build a trail right away. Sometimes they
negotiate with the developer to build the trails and sometimes they take the easement
against the future opportunity to build a whole section of trail. Or sometimes they wait to
apply for a grant to build a trail. In the future they may ask developers to post signs
indicating that the easement is the future site of a trail. In most communities, when trails
are adjacent to properties, it is looked at as an enhancement to the property.
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According to Todd and Donald, AMG presented this land as being association property,
not City property. The survey of the homeowners indicates that the trail land is a linear
park. The homeowners' association land was also called a linear park. This was very
misleading to the homeowners, The City will need to tell developers that they need to
clearly describe what land is City owned and what land is owned by associations.
Parks and Recreation will write up a letter stating their decision. They are hoping that the
homeowners will be pleasantly surprised at how nice it is to have a trail.
Grand Reseri,e D Playground Design
The Grand Reserve Park D will have a school theme. This park will be adjacent to the
school. They will have a main play structure; a swing set structure, a shelter, and a log
roll and climber. Park Kreations' design was the one most liked because it allowed
children to play chase games with a route to follow and was the most favorable
wheelchair accessible park. There would be an 18 ft. web climber which can handle a lot
of children at one time which is critical for a school playground. The park is developed
for 5-12 years olds. Park C, which is kitty-corner to this park, will be for 2-5 years old.
Staff'recommends the Little Tykes playground and the new model of Little Tykes swings.
The shelter is from the same company that did the shelter in Sunflower Park. It is a
rectangular, custom shelter than can have the school name on it.. The park should be open
by September 1, 2006.
The total price would be $66,931, which is in Parks and Recreation's budget. The
breakdown is as follows:
Main Play Structure Little Tykes $33,705
Swings Little Tykes 6,100
Shelter Zenon 12,600
Web Climber Little Tykes 13,426
Log Roll Little Tykes
Pirouette Zenon 1,100
TOTAL: $66,931
Van Truman motioned to accept the staff recommendation for equipment for Grand
Reserve Park D to include the items listed above for the total of$66,931, Gary Golinski
seconded the motion. Roll call vote: Chris Rollins—Yes, Ken Koch—Yes, Van
Truman—Yes, Tammy Smock—Yes, and Gary Golinski—Yes. The motion was
unanimously approved,
Prairie Meadows Preliminary Design (Menards Residential)
This park will be north of the new post office. It is a seven acre site in which 2.5 acres
are for the park and 4 acres are for the maintenance facility. The theme for the park is a
firehouse due to its proximity to the firehouse. A flagpole from the old firehouse will be
incorporated into this design. This is Parks' 2006 OSLAD grant application park. The
volunteer fire department may want to be involved a little bit with the park, In the next
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week or so they will have a public meeting at the firehouse in the development or in the
model home of AMG. The flagpole, the insignia, and possibly a bronze firefighter statue
will be incorporated into the park. It will also have an educational component that will
teach the children about fire safety. The flagpole that mounts to a building from the old
firehouse will be bolted to a ten foot tower that will look like a drying tower used at
firehouses that they hang hoses on. A green and red light will be on each side with a
plaque on the front of this monument that carne from this particular flagpole which was
dedicated to someone at the firehouse. In the future they may have some other feature of
this park to honor different firefighters.
There will also be a water feature for water play. It will be interactive so that the children
can turn the water on and off for a short duration. The shelter will have details on it to
mimic a firehouse. The benches may have ladders on the back of them. They would like
to separate the 2-5 years old from the 5-12 years old age groups so that the younger
children do not get trampled coming and going from the water feature. It will be spread
out nicely. There will be belt and tot swings. They have left some room in case HOA
wanted to add something. The 5-12 years old area will be a European style playground
which will be a little different than they're used to.
They are considering having the fire department/paramedics come periodically to the
park to work with kids to learn 9-1-1 or to stop/drop/roll, etc. The bronze statute honors
the long tradition that Yorkville has with volunteer fire departments.
Basketball nets may be put in the park maintenance building parking lot without the pad
to get the maximum use. Also, because the parking lot for the maintenance building is
tied into the park they can get 50%of the panting lot paid for by the grant. If we do not
receive the OSLAD grant, it will change drastically what Parks and Recreation will do
with the park. They will not know until late December or early January if they will get it..
East of the post office will all be commercial so this park is much needed in this area.
The budget for the park is approximately $400,000 with $300,000 from land cash. The
OLLAD grant is a 50% matching grant.
Because the theme is well enough developed, the Board unanimously agreed to move
forward to have a public meeting regarding the park as presented. It will then be brought
back to the Board with whatever changes that there may be and then back to another
public meeting. The plans will also probably be brought to the fire department meeting.
Scott Sleezer will let the Board know the date of the public meeting, He is hoping to
have it before the next Park and Recreation Board meeting. It is important to have this
meeting soon because the July 1 deadline is approaching.
REPORTS
None
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Board Retreat
Although almost everyone would be able to make the Board retreat on the designated
dates, it was mentioned that it may be difficult to pull together all the information for the
agenda items in just three weeks time in order for it to be productive. It may be a better
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ahemative to wait until the fall which is a slower time for the department and will allow
more time for the meeting and to secure an appropriate site and a facilitator. The Board
decided to reschedule the retreat for possibly sometime in October.
Van Purchase
The purchase of a van is going to COW on Tuesday and will go to City Council on May
9, 2006, The van will then be purchased on May 10, 2006, The Board is in unanimous
agreement to purchase the van.
Rivers Edge Park
Dean Wolfer mentioned that a developer has offered to grade this park as he is almost
done in that area. The Board would like to hold off on this at this time as it may not be
cost effective.
Camp 9-1-1
Dean Wolfer wanted to thank Parks and Recreation for bringing in Camp 9-1-1.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 10:45 p.m. following the motion by Ken Koch and seconded by
Tammy Smock. The motion was unanimously approved..
Minute Taker—.Jeanne Arbet
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