Park Board Minutes 2006 12-14-06 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
YORKVILLE PARKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT BOARD ME ETING
Parks & Recreation Administrative Office Riverfrout Building
Thursday, December 14, 2006
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
Meeting was called to order by Chris Rollins at 7:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Chris Rollins, Ken Koch, Van Truman, Gary Golinski, and Kelly Sedgwick
GUESTS/CITY OFFICIALS/STAFF:
Dave Mogle, Director of Parks and Recreation
Sue Swithin, Superintendent of Recreation
Scott Sleezer, Superintendent of Parks
Alderman Dean Wolfer
Andrew Bobbitt, Director of YMCA
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
( The minutes from the Regular Park Board Meeting of November 9, 2006 were approved
_ on motion by Van Truman and seconded by Gary Golinski. The motion was
unanimously approved.
BILLS REVIEW:
Cash Analysis& Bills List
Ken Koch questioned the Special Needs Research on page 5, Dave Mogle explained that
City Council asked for facts regarding special needs in the community so a contracted
individual is establishing if there is a need for a special recreation program by gathering
this information,. Additional information will be shared at a Park Board meeting in
January.
Ken Koch wanted clarification on page 12 regarding the reimbursement of an
overpayment for parks from Pulte Homes of$18,762,20 for Autumn Creek. Dave Mogle
will look into this further and he will clarify with the Board.
Gary Golinski motioned to approve the cash analysis and bills list pending the
explanation of page 12 invoice 120506 Pulte Homes Reimburse Overpayment for Parks
Land Cash, The motion was seconded by Kelly Sedgwick, Roll call vote: Chris Rollins
–Yes, Ken Koch—Yes, Van Truman–Yes, Gary Golinski—Yes, and Kelly Sedgwick-
Yes. The motion was unanimously approved.
OLD BUSINESS:
( YMCA/City Ad Hoc Committee Report on.Pm7nelship
Andrew Bobbitt, Executive Director of the Fox Valley Family YMCA,presented the
partnership proposal for Yorkville. The YMCA Central Branch in Plano opened in 1992
and has 6,000 members and 14,000 participants within a year. In 1999, a lap pool was
added. In September, extra space will be ready for additional preschool programs
(capacity of 180 children) and day care spots for 103 children from 6:30 AM—6:00 PM.
The West Branch in Sandwich opened December 2005 and has 1200 members. The East
Branch YMCA is targeted for the eastern edge of Yorkville. The YMCA would like to
be strategic in pooling its resources and gaining partnerships with other organizations.
The 4.4 acres of donated land from MPI, LLC is at the comer of Kennedy and Mill
within Grande Reserve.
The developers were promised a 15,000 square feet facility built in phases. Phase 1
includes multi-purpose rooms, an aerobic room, flee weight and cardio area, and
preschool rooms. Phase 2 option consists of an indoor warm water pool with zero-depth
for recreation and instruction. Phase 3 is slated for a 1.5 full court indoor gym. A curtain
could divide off one court for more options to play.
Jason Leslie,Debbie Horaz, and Dave Mogle met with Becky Morphey, Stan Free, and
Andrew Bobbitt fiom the YMCA to form a Special Committee to possible partnership.
The 2003 Park and Recreation Master Plan stated the top desired amenities for residents
of Yorkville were an outdoor aquatics center, an indoor pool, and multi-purpose rooms.
The future Raging Waters water park will meet the first need. The YMCA wants to
provide the fitness center and multi-purpose rooms. An indoor pool could be provided by
the YMCA and Yorkville. Specific examples of other cities that have partnered with
YMCAs were provided. Later in the meeting an example agreement between the City of
Gig Harbor and the YMCA of Tacoma-Pierce County was copied and distributed to
Board Members.
Within a partnership, Yorkville residents may have a discounted aquatic center usage fee
and residents pay the YMCA member price for aquatic programs. The current Plano
YMCA pool is open to the public at$10 for an individual and$25 for a family.
One funding option is an annual lease arrangement with the YMCA from the city's
operating budget. The second funding option is through a referendum if the city was to
lease or own the land. Initial numbers for a $4 million bond issue for a$200,000 house
would cost$36 a year in taxes. Andrew Bobbitt compared this to $30 he spends with his
family every time they swim at Aurora's Vaughan Athletic Center. The YMCA is fiend
raising for the phases, but the 9 million dollar cost is unrealistic without other's help. If
the City were able to fund and own the pool,then the YMCA would lease the pool and
fund the operations. The timeline for construction of phase 1 is plans ready by
September 2007, break ground December 2008, and open December 2009.
Dave Mogle complimented Andrew Bobbitt for his initiative in starting the partnership
talks last spring. Dave encourages the exploration of the partnership. The future YMCA
area would be near the new Regional Ball Diamonds and two future churches:New Life
Church and Cross Lutheran Church. This will be a growing, exciting area that may
provide much recreation, There are complexities with pursuing a partnership also, Dave
opened discussion with the Park Board on whether to pursue this issue and how.
Chris Rollins thanked Mi. Bobbitt and the YMCA for their willingness to cooperate. He
mentioned that the new churches mentioned may also expand day care facilities and
possibly offer gyms. The balance of recreational offering within this area should be
researched. Mr. Rollins said that Illinois municipalities can make special funds available
for a municipal pool if this situation would apply. When drafting an agreement, there is
the risk of organizations asking why one organization was chosen over the other.
Sensitivity to other organizations creates a balance. Chris wants to continue to
investigate the partnership.
Scott Sleezer asked if the YMCA talked to the new churches in the area about sharing
parks or retention areas. Andrew Bobbit stated that Cross Lutheran (Loving Arms) has
25 acres on Mill that incorporates the recreational aspect, but two years ago were not
ready to partner, New Life Church has 50 acres adjacent to Mill and Kennedy. Half of
the acres probably will be sold for commercial property, On their site would be a church,
possibly a school, and a skate park. Parking and storm water management may be areas
that cooperation with the YMCA is feasible at this time. Another agreement option is for
Parks and Recreation to maintain soccer fields for the churches or the YMCA if Parks
and Recreation could use them.
With the demands of rapid growth,the school district is not interested building a pool for
the schools at this time, Coach.Jim Still is using the Plano pool for 3 P.E. classes for a
reduced rate. Van Truman expressed the interest in water competition expanding and
would have liked the school district to get involved as well. He encourages opportunities
and partnerships.
Sue Swithin stated that there are other priorities with the city's growth even though a
pool could be utilized. If the agreement progresses, she would concentrate on
programming and not duplicating programs. She asked Mr. Bobbit why build another
pool when the Central Branch YMCA's pool causes a deficit. He answered that the
60,000 square foot facility generates surplus due to the success of memberships, and this
corresponds with having a pool available, Memberships sell to families 2 out of 3 times
when the pool is shown as an asset, The Eastern Branch's pool would differ being a
recreational pool, contrasting to the Central Branch's competitive pool. Both pools
would be tied together to service people.
Additional research is needed such as the cost of money and time for a referendum.. Dave
Phillips from Speer Financial believes that municipal capital cannot be used to build
facilities that are not owned by the City. Possibly, the YMCA could donate an acre of
land and the city builds the pool, The pool could connect to the YMCA facility by a
corridor,
Dean Wolfer encourages this agreement and believes it has potential to fulfill the city's
need. He questioned if builders could contribute to a pool. Mr. Bobbit said the YMCA is
conversing with Centex Homes in Bristol Bay about supporting a pool.
Are grants available fora project like this? In Kankakee,the city received a$6.5 million
grant for an ice arena in cooperation with Kankakee Community College. The ice arena
needed to be next to the college, so the college swapped 4 or 5 acres at that location in
return for city land elsewhere used for a soccer complex. The Park District built an ice
arena with a fitness center attached on the new land and owned and operated it. The
fitness center was leased by the college. It was a front-end loaded lease of$1.5 million
for 3 or 4 years. The lease agreement diminished within 20 years to $1 a year. 'This
example differs from the YMCA and Yorkville's Parks and Recreation because
construction money is needed and in the Kankakee example operation money was
needed.
Land cash for a pool is not an option with potentially 60 parks on the agenda. Phase 2
could be prolonged beyond 2009. There could be a 4°'and 5"'Phase addition increasing
the facility from 40,000 to 60,000 square feet. Scott Sleezer stated that if'a referendum is
pursued it would have to be well thought out and cover the needs for 10— 15 years which
may be a$10 million referendum. New Life Church is selling 25 acres in the Kennedy/
Mill area that Parks and Recreation could buy for a maintenance facility and a future
recreation center. Secondly, voters support would be encouraged. City Council needs to
be involved. The Parks and Recreation survey would summarize the public's general
needs. The referendum could be on the ballet at the earliest in April. Andrew Bobbitt
said a downfall of waiting is too much time to read negative letters in the paper. A
positive to waiting is the time to be better thought out.
Rush Copley Hospital, Edward Hospital, Provena Hospital, and Kishwaukee Hospital are
in or will be in the area providing competitive facilities. The YMCA is conversing with
the latter three.
The Caterpillar location in Montgomery is a growing area and seeking recreation. Chris
Rollins wishes there could be an intergovernmental agreement for that area. However,
Montgomery does fall within the Fox Valley Park District even if Yorkville parks are
closer. Mr. Bobbitt said that people moving into Yorkville are expecting park districts
comparable to ones in the bigger suburbs and may be disappointed with fewer choices.
He thanked the Board fbr their time.
Gary Golinski asked if taxes could be an option to provide more funds like what the
library does. A special assessment for recreation funds has not been pursued by City
Council and Mayor in the past. Swimming pools can be assessed separately apart from
recreation.
Sue Swithin prioritizes the maintenance facility and a recreation facility for Parks and
Recreation. She fears continuously sharing money and partnering with other groups,may
lead to having to outsource programs. She would like a future recreation facility to
( contain a preschool room, a gym with no other organization conflicts, a small fitness
room, and a multiple purpose room. When this is in place, then she would be more open
to an indoor pool. The tuning is not good at this point for a pool or she agrees with Scott
Sleezer to take time to put large items together for a large referendum. The Central
Branch current pool does cost more than it makes. The study on the Lion's Club Pool
concluded that it would constantly lose money. An indoor pool was not in the intentions
of the Park Board. Some people were bitter when the YMCA no longer wanted to
support the city pool, once the Central Branch was able to fund a pool. The YMCA then
wanted the city to owe them for the time they did subsidize it. A survey, question could
include interest in a partnership with the YMCA. Gary Golinski said Raging Waters may
build an indoor water park in the future, so the agreement with the YMCA pool may not
be a wise investment, New Life Church may sell their building to Parks and Recreation
and the Board feels loyalty with them. Cross Lutheran Church has a large gym and will
have a daycare program across the street firom the competing YMCA. More information
has to be gathered.
Board Retreat Srunmmy and Progress Report
The retreat summary was compiled. Lome Gibson(retreat facilitator), Dave Mogle, Sue
Switrin, Scott Sleezer, Laura Haake, and Tim Evans met to identify critical issues and
workable objectives. Ms. Gibson will do her second part of the report. Action plans will
then be put in place. At the January 1 l°i Park Board Meeting the complete summary will
be shared. The Board members will carefully read the Yorkville Parks and Recreation
Department Planning Retreat Summary in their packet. The critical issues agreed on are
1)need for better school-paik agreement, 2)need for new maintenance facility, .3)plan
for Hoover property, 4)update roaster plan. The objectives will be based on these issues.
Old Post Office Rehab Quotes
First recommendation is for rear doors for the rear dock area including 6 inch by 24 inch
panel pieces of glass for security reasons. The bids were for Ebenroth&Associates, Inc
(with glass) at 6,580.00 and Belan Services without glass for $6,599.00. The
recommendation for materials and labor of 2 sets of steel doors with glass (2 doors each)
for the rear-exit of the Old Post Office Building using Ebonroth&Associates, Inc for
$6,350.00 plus an additional $230.00 for clear glass lights to be added to each door was
approved on motion by Gary Golinski and seconded by Ken Koch. Roll call vote: Chris
Rollins–Yes,Ken Koch—Yes, Van Truman–Yes, Gary Golinski—Yes, and Kelly
Sedgwick- Yes. The motion was unanimously approved.
Second recommendation is for demolition including old ceiling tile and light fixtures to
be removed. This also includes the removal of the tile floor in fiont entrance area.
Eventually,the building will have all new tile and carpet and the original grid will be
spray painted with new tile in the ceiling. The estimate for Belan Services of West
Brooklyn, Illinois, of$3,660.00 for the above demolition was approved on motion by
Gary Golinski and seconded by Ken Koch. Roll call vote: Chris Rollins–Yes, Ken
Koch—Yes, Van Truman–Yes, Gary Golinski—Yes, and Kelly Sedgwick- Yes. The
motion was unanimously approved.
Thud recommendation is for roof repairs to the Old Post Office due to leaks around the
perimeter and I-IVA systems. The two bids were from Olsson Roofing Company for
$4,180.00 and Maleor Roofing Company for$8,849.00. Olsson provided digital pictures
of'roofproblems. This work would include removing gravel areas,remove flashing,
resealing the edges, adding new gravel and flashing, and fix roof leaks. A work ticket
will be called into tomorrow since snow is melted. The estimate of Olsson Roofing
Company out of Aurora, Illinois,for roof repairs for the Old Post Office Building at the
cost of$4,180.00 was approved on motion by Gary Golinski and seconded by Kelly
Sedgwick. Roll call vote: Chris Rollins–Yes, Ken Koch—Yes,Van Truman–Yes,
Gary Golinski—Yes, and Kelly Sedgwick- Yes. 'The motion was unanimously
approved.
Ken Koch requested to Dean Wolfer that when these items come before City Council,to
educate City Council on the importance of money spent on the facility and why it is
spent. The mayor is aware of this. Alderman, Dean Wolfer asked if the building was
checked for asbestos and it has.
NEW BUSINESS:
Establish Ad Hoc Conunittee for SchooUPark Agreement Renewal
The School District will have three representatives for this committee: Tom Engler, Seth
Schoonover, and Dave Dossetter, The Park Board will be represented by Dave Mogle,
Sue Swithin, and Van Truman. Chris Rollins offered to help if Van needed him.
Check Signing Procedure for•Payroll
When money is moved from the General Fund it takes a month for Parks and Recreation
to reimburse the General Fund by signing a Transfer Check at the next Park Board
meeting. The Finance Department requested a new procedure to move money to cover
Parks and Recreation payroll fund by January. To eliminate the delay, two park board
members would sign the Transfer Check at City Hall on Tuesdays of payroll week before
noon.
Van Truman stated that since payroll is relatively stable, a holding fund to anticipate the
expense could be set up and the payment is posted in advance to an account that is
accessible. Any remaining money for small variances with the payroll can be put back
into Parks and Recreation's account. This would be more convenient for the Board. The
only individuals local to sign checks are Debbie Horaz and Seth Schoonover and possibly
Dave Mogle as an alternate in case of an emergency. Dave Mogle will talk with Susan
about the difficulty with work schedules to adhere to the suggested procedure.
Caboose for Whispering Meadows Park
Dave contacted the Caboose owner, Angie Baker, regarding purchasing the caboose
parked downtown for use at Whispering Meadows Park to enhance the train theme and
serving as a park meeting room and a"classroom"for the future neighboring elementary
school. She is willing to sell one for$10,500. Quotes will be taken for the moving
process and refurbishing costs. Kelly Sedgwick suggested notifying Burlington Northern
i Line with tracks near Whispering Meadows to see if they would donate money toward
( purchasing or reftubishing the caboose or whether they have a caboose available . This
will be followed up.
Scott Sleezer and Dave met with a rigging company from Yorkville that coordinates the
crane and the truck and setting it at the new site. A quote is not back yet. Kelly
Sedgwick said he is a certified crane lifter if he is needed. Two historical groups that
refurbish have been contacted for information too. The budget is tight for Whispering
Meadows and an indoor facility does not qualify for a grant. The alternative plan is to the
caboose at Riverfiront Park if the moving cost is too high. The owner would need to be
notified of this change in plans. It could still service the kids and could be turned into a
little museum.
The caboose is 44 feet long, 9 foot 6 inches wide, and about 300 square feet inside. The
Board unanimously consented on moving forward with this project.
Camera for Riverfront Park
IDNR is willing to grant the city up to $5,000 for the purchase of a Pan/Tilt/Zoom
outdoor camera used for monitoring construction and use of the Dana and Bypass and
become a web based remote camera for public access and viewing. Free DSL would be
provided by PDQ Link antennas on the water tower. The camera would be installed
toward the West Building on the river wall crave on an old-fashioned light pole. The city
would maintain the camera. the IDNR legal department is questioning if the liability is
too great if there is an incident and an argument made that the camera should have
( prevented it.
Park Naming Proposal
Kendall Bristol Fire District request the firefighter-themed New Prairie Meadows Park be
named for the Riemensclmeider Family. This family contains many volunteer firefighters
from 60 years ago to the present. A special committee discussed a bronze fire helmet may
be purchased for the front entrance and tradesmen volunteered to do some hardscape in
certain areas. This park naming application is very deserving and should move onto City
Council. The park would be named Riemenschneider Park.
Parks and Recreation would like to have a bronze plaque at each park with a paragraph
describing the history of the park's name. This would fit into the interactive media
suggestion.
IPR State Conference
Some Staff are attending the 2007 Park and Recreation Conference in Chicago. Dave
Mogle asked if a board member would like to go for a day to the conference. Gary
Golinski is interested for January 26u and will email to confirm his availability.
RE,PORTS:
Recreation Reportfor November
Preschool is preparing for a Christmas program. Some toddler and elementary classes
( were added. SOAR, an after school program of 12 kids, is activity based and has a self
(- esteem approach. The Polar Express train ride went well. The 100 participants might
increase to 150 next year. Joe Gatlin has done a nice job scheduling the 7 and 8°i grade
girls travel basketball teams which are doing well. The boys will start in January and the
15`–5a' grade recreational in-house basketball program will start soon.
For professional development, Sue Swithin and'Tim Evans attended Professional
Development School. 'Tim believed this was very beneficial. Sue finished her graduate
level and Tim finished his first year at the school. Sue Swithin and Barb Reisinger
attended a training session for upgrades to the RecTrac registration system and will train
staff:
The concession stand is closed. It had a profit of$4,173.21 for 500 hours. It is projected
that the Grande Reserve Concession Stand will open in April and close in October. A
local college student that helped at Beecher Concession Stand will manage both stands
next spring and order and inventory stock.
A certain percentage of the total budget goes toward preschool scholarship, general
programming, and special education. Projections for next year are in the works. The
preschool scholarship of$141.70 for this month is typical.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS:
December 28, 2006 Park Board Meeting
There will be a quorum for the Board Meeting on December 28th, Dave Mogle will be
out of town, but Sue Swithin and Scott Sleezer will be available. The agenda will include
Caledonia Park plans, Laura Haake's projects, and more Old Post Office quotes.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned to Executive Session at 9:45 p.m. following the motion by Van
Truman and seconded by Ken Koch. The motion was unanimously approved.
The meeting reconvened from Executive Session and adjoruned at 9:57 p.m. following
motion by Gary Golinski and seconded by Ken Koch. The motion was unanimously
approved.
Minute 'Taker—Eileen Lesak