City Council Minutes 2007 05-22-07 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE, ]KENDALL COUNTY, ILLINOIS,
HELD IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
800 GAME FARM ROAD ON
TUESDAY, MAY 22, 2007.
Mayor Burd called the meeting to order at 7:03 P.M and led the Council in the Pledge of
Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
�\ Deputy Clerk Pickering called the roll.
Ward I Leslie Present
Werderich Present
Ward H Golinski Present
Plocher Present
Ward III Munns Present
Sutcliff Present (arrived after roll call)
Ward IV Besco Present
Spears Present
Also present: Deputy Clerk Pickering, Interim City Attorney Roth, Interim City Administrator
Crois, Assistant City Administrator Olson, Finance Director Mika, Director of Public Works
Dhuse, Police Chief Martin, Director of Park & Recreation Mogle, Community Development
Director Miller, City Engineer Wywrot, Human Resource Manager Kasper and Public Relations
Officer Spies.
OUORUM
A quorum was established.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Mayor Burd asked Attorney Roth if he had a suggested motion. Attorney Roth indicated that a
motion would be in order to recess to Executive Session for the discussion of matters of probable
or imminent litigation and the terms and conditions of specific employees. So moved by
Alderman Besco; seconded by Alderman Spears.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -1
Leslie -aye, Mums -aye, Plocher -aye, Spears -aye,
Sutcliff -aye, Werderich -aye, Besco -aye, Golinski -nay
Alderman Golinski stated that the Opening Meetings Act calls for the discussion of pending or
imminent litigation. He asked if immin litigation was going to be discussed. Attorney Roth
stated that probable or immin litigation was to be discussed.
Mayor Burd noted that there would be action taken after the session.
The Council adjourned into Executive Session at 7:06 p.m.
The City Council returned to regular session at 8:05 p.m.
INTRODUCTION OF GUESTS
Mayor Burd asked the staff and guests to introduce themselves. She welcomed the guests and
asked them to enter their names on the attendance sheet provided.
AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA
Mayor Burd asked for a motion to table Public Works Committee Item #I - Sunny Valley Farm —
Route 126 Drainage Issue to June 12, 2007. So moved by Alderman Munns; seconded by
Alderman Golinski.
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Motion approved by a viva voce vote. Ayes -8 Nays -0
Alderman Spears asked to move Item #6 - Rob Roy Creek Interceptor (North Branch # 1) -
Change Order #2 to the Public Works Committee Report for further discussion.
COMMITTEE MEETING DATES
Public Works Committee Committee of the Whole
7:00 P.M., Tuesday, June 19, 2007
City of Yorkville Conference Room
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Economic Development Committee Committee of the Whole
7:00 P.M., Tuesday, June 19, 2007
City of Yorkville Conference Room
Administration Committee Committee of the Whole
7:00 P.M., Tuesday, June 5, 2007
City of Yorkville Conference Room
Public Safety Committee Committee of the Whole
7:00 P.M., Tuesday, June 5, 2007
City of Yorkville Conference Room
PRESENTATIONS
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
SB & WD, LLC
SB & WD, LLC, petitioner, has filed an application with the United City of Yorkville, Kendall
County, Illinois, requesting rezoning from the United City of Yorkville R -3 to United City of
Yorkville PUD zoning to allow uses permitted in the R -3 zoning classification, an amendment to
the original annexation Agreement and for hearing as to the Concept PUD plan, Preliminary PUD
plan and amended Annexation Agreement of the petitioner. The real property consists of
approximately 9.69 acres located south of the southeast comer of Route 47 and Route 71,
Yorkville, Illinois.
Please see attached Report of Proceedings by Depo Court Reporting Service for the transcription
of this portion of the public hearing.
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to close the public hearing. So moved by Alderman Spears;
seconded by Alderman Golinski.
n Motion approved by a viva voce vote. Ayes -8 Nays -0
Donald Hamman & Carol Hamman
Donald Hamman & Carol Hamman, petitioner, has filed an application with the United City of
Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting an amendment to the PUD Agreement (Ordinance
2000 -34). The real property consists of approximately 127.56 acres, generally located 70 acre
vacant part of Hamman PUD described in Ordinance 2000 -34 easterly of Yorkville Crossings
Unit One (common address 8823 Route 34 in Yorkville) and 57.57 acres north of Crimson Lane
and east of Prairie Point development.
Please see attached Report of Proceedings by Depo Court Reporting Service for the transcription
of this portion of the public hearing.
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to close the public hearing. So moved by Alderman Munns;
seconded by Alderman Golinski.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote. Ayes -7 Nays -1 (Spears)
CITIZEN COMMENTS
Carlo Colosimo, resident, thanked Alderman Spears for bringing up the subject of too many
townhomes in Yorkville. He asked why Item #14 - Intergovernmental Cooperative Agreement of
the Yorkville Community Unit School District # 115 and the City on the Consent Agenda was not
in the City Council packets posted on the City's website. He indicated that he had an issue with
the agreement regarding the School District being allowed to expend City funds that he wished to
comment on but it was not available for review. Mayor Burd responded that the agreement was
^) on the website in the Committee of the Whole packet. Mr. Colosimo stated that residents should
not have to be responsible to review all the information on the website. Mayor Burd and Deputy
Clerk Pickering explained that if there are no changes made after a COW meeting, the document
is not recopied. This is done in an effort to same paper and time. Mayor Burd asked that in the
future there be a notation made in the packet that the information can be found in an earlier
packet so that residents can find it.
Dan Nicholson commented on the Hamman public hearing and the reduction of the lake site and
elimination of the beach. He asked the developer to retain these ideas.
Tom Gilmour informed the City Council that his father was almost killed last year by a truck
driver transporting sand from Hamman's property to a location on Route 71.
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Fred DuSell asked that a dog park not be considered for the Hamman development.
CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Burd asked if anyone would like to amend the Consent Agenda by removing Item # 14 -
Intergovernmental Cooperative Agreement of the Yorkville Community Unit School District
4115 and the City.
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A motion was made by Alderman Spears requesting that the item be removed and placed on the
agenda of the next City Council meeting; seconded by Alderman Golinski.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -6 Nays -2
Leslie -aye, Munns -nay, Plocher -aye, Spears -aye,
Sutcliff- -aye, Werderich -aye, Besco -aye, Golinski -nay
1. Resolution 2007 -30 - Approving the Final Plat of Subdivision for Kleinwachter
Subdivision - authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute, subject to staff comments and
legal review (PC 2006 -95)
2. Resolution 2007 -31- Approving the Preliminary and Final Plat of Subdivision for
Fountainview Subdivision - authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute, subject to staff
comments and legal review (PC 2007 -11)
3. Resolution 2007 -32 - Approving the Final Plat of Subdivision for Rush - Copley Health
Care Center - authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute, subject to staff comments and
legal review (PC 2007 -10)
4. Resolution 2007 -33 - Transferring Jurisdictional Development Review to the City of Plano
(DuPage Asphalt) - authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute (EDC 2007 -20)
5. SCADA Project - Change Order 41 — authorize increase in an amount not to exceed
$18,860. 00, a time extension of 86 days and authorize Mayor to execute(PW 2007 -73)
6. Resolution 2007 -34 - IDOT Highway Permit and Resolution — Kleinwachter Development
- authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute (PW 2007 -75)
7. Fox Highlands - Final Acceptance & Bond/Letter of Credit Reductions 42 — accept public
improvements for ownership and maintenance with the understanding that the remaining
punchlist items will be completed during the one year warranty period and approve two
bond/letter of credit reductions totaling $327,061.40 (PW 2007 -77)
8. Fox Hill Centre - Final Acceptance and Letter of Credit Reduction 42 — accept public
improvements for the ownership and maintenance, release the Letter of Credit for site
development work and reduce the supplemental Letter of Credit in an amount not to exceed
$45,069.15 (PW 2007 -78)
9. Game Farm Road/Somonauk Street Reconstruction (PW 2007 -79)
a. IDOT Funding Agreement - authorize Mayor to execute
b. Engineering Services Agreement - authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute
c. Resolution 2007 -35 - MFT Appropriation Resolution - authorize City Clerk to execute
11. SLF Yorkville — Plat of Easement - authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute (PW
2007 -80)
12. Fountain Village of Yorkville (Lots 4 & 5) - Plat of Easement - authorize the Mayor and
City Clerk to execute (PW 2007 -81)
13. In -Town Road Program (Phase 2) - Watermain Easement - authorize the Mayor and City
Clerk to execute (PW 2007 -82)
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve the Consent Agenda as amended. So moved by
Alderman Leslie; seconded by Alderman Munns.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -8 Nays-0
Leslie -aye, Munns -aye, Plocher -aye, Spears -aye,
Sutcliff -aye, Werderich -aye, Besco -aye, Golinski -aye
Intergovernmental Cooperative Agreement of the
Yorkville Community Unit School District #115 and the City
(PKBD 2007 -01)
Alderman Munns questioned where Item # 14 was being moved on the agenda. Mayor Burd
questioned which committee generated the item. Attorney Roth indicated that the item could be
discussed at this time in the meeting so Mayor Burd asked if there was any discussion on the
item.
Alderman Golinski commented that there was nothing in the agreement that allows the School
District to expend City funds. He noted that this agreement has taken months and many meetings
to develop.
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Alderman Munns agreed with Alderman Golinski and noted that this item has been discussed at
length at previous meetings and he did not feel that it should have been pulled off the Consent
Agenda for further discussion. He indicated he was ready to vote on the agreement.
Alderman Spears stated that the Council is trying to give the image that they are working with
residents. She noted that a resident has come to the Council indicating that he was unable to
review the agreement and he should have the opportunity to review the document and make
public comment on it. She did not feel there was a rush to approve the agreement.
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Director Mogle explained that it is critical to have this approved because it is for the shared use of
park and school facilities and the Parks & Recreation Department is beginning to work on the fall
pro grammin g and needs to know what facilities are available before school is out for the summer.
It was noted that the current agreement expires July 1, 2007.
Alderman Spears asked if delaying the approval for two weeks would put the City or Parks &
Recreation Department programs in jeopardy. Director Mogle again noted that it is easier to
develop the fall schedule while the school principals are available to discuss the school's
schedules.
Mayor Burd noted that there is nothing stopping residents from calling the City for further
information. Alderman Munns agreed and noted that there is nothing in the agreement
appropriating funds.
Director Mogle clarified that the agreement does not call for the exchange of fiends but is an
agreement for the use of facilities.
A motion was made by Alderman Munns to approve Item # 14 — PKBD 2007 -07 as stated;
seconded by Alderman Golinski.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0 Present -1
Golinski -aye, Leslie -aye, Munns -aye, Plocher -aye,
Spears- present, Sutcliff -aye, Werderich -aye, Besco -aye
PLANNING COMMISSION /ZONING BOARD OF APPEAL
No report.
MINUTES FOR APPROVAL
A motion was made by Alderman Munns to approve the minutes of the City Council meetings of
April 10, 2007 and May 14, 2007; seconded by Alderman Besco.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
A motion was made by Alderman Munns to approve the minutes of the Committee of the Whole
meetings of April 18, 2007 and May 1, 2007; seconded by Alderman Leslie.
Alderman Spears had several corrections for the May 1, 2007 minutes:
Page 1— under the attendance - Alderman Spears — the word alderwoman should be
changed to mayor pro temp
Page 2 — under Administration Committee — second paragraph — the Expense Report
should be changed to the Monthly Budget Report.
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve the minutes as amended. So moved by Alderman
Spears; seconded by Alderman Leslie.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
(! BILLS FOR APPROVAL
A motion was made by Alderman Munns to approve the paying of the bills listed on the Detailed
Board Report dated May 10, 2007 totaling the following amounts: checks in the amount of
$873,052.85 (vendors — FY 06/07); $127,543.52 (vendors — FY 07/08); $217,262.00 (payroll
period ending 4/28/07); $20,089.53 (payroll period ending 4/31/07); for a total of $1,237,947.90
(total) (Revised — see revised summary in packet); seconded by Alderman Spears.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -8 Nays -0
Munns -aye, Plocher -aye, Spears -aye, Sutcliff -aye,
Werderich -aye, Besco -aye, Golinski -aye, Leslie -aye
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REPORTS
MAYOR'S REPORT
Proclamation for National Public Works Week
Proclamation for Click It of Ticket Mobilization
Proclamation for Relay for Life Days
Mayor Burd read proclamations for the National Public Works Week (May 20 — 26, 2007),
"Click It or Ticket" Safety Belt Enforcement Week (May 21— June 3, 2007) and Relay for Life
Days (June 1 and 2, 2007). See attached proclamations.
Appointments to Boards and Commissions
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to reappoint Johanna Byram to the Fagade Committee. So
moved by Alderman Spears; seconded by Alderman Munns.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to reappoint Cecelia Sanders and Thomas Zerante to the Human
Resource Commission. So moved by Alderman Spears; seconded by Alderman Plocher.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to reappoint Gail Gaebler, Marilyn Vorderer and Joann Gryder
to the Library Board. So moved by Alderman Leslie; seconded by Alderman Spears.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to appoint Anne Lucietto chairman of the Plan Commission and
reappoint Tom Lindblom and Clarence Holdiman to the Plan Commission. So moved by
Alderman Spears; seconded by Alderman Munns.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to reappoint Laurence DeBord to the Police Pension Fund
Board. So moved by Alderman Munns; seconded by Alderman Leslie.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to appoint Jeff Baker chairman and reappoint Mike Skinner and
Dean Bromann to the Zoning Board of Appeals. So moved by Alderman Spears; seconded by
Alderman Plocher.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
Appointment of Department Heads
Mayor Burd reported that the department heads need to be appointed by the new mayor. She
asked for the approval of the following appointments: Bart Olson Interim City Administrator
(until a new City Administrator is hired), Finance Director Susan Mika; Director of Public Works
Eric Dhuse; Chief of Police Harold Martin; Director of Park & Recreation David Mogle; Building
Inspector /Zoning Officer William Dettmer; City Engineer Joe Wywrot and Budget Officer Susan
Mika. So moved by Alderman Spears; seconded by Alderman Plocher.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
Police Chief Contract
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve the contract for the Chief of Police. So moved by
Alderman Leslie; seconded by Alderman Spears.
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Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -8 Nays -0
Sutcliff- -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Golinski -aye,
Werderich -aye, Munns -aye, Plocher -aye, Spears -aye
CITY COUNCIL REPORT
No report.
ATTORNEY'S REPORT
No report.
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CITY TREASURER'S REPORT
No report.
CITY ADMINISTATOR'S REPORT
No report.
FINANCE DIRECTOR'S REPORT
No report.
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DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS REPORT
Public Works Day
Director Dhuse thanked the mayor for the proclamation. He noted that the department could not
celebrate it this year the way they wanted however there will be a Public Works Day at Well 49
Water Treatment Plant on May 26, 2007 from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.
In -Town Road Program
Director Dhuse also reported that the In -Town Road Program is ahead of schedule and the
infrastructure will be finished on the east side of Route 47 by the end of the week. The roads will
be paved by Aurora Blacktop in July 2007.
CHIEF OF POLICE'S REPORT
Crosswalk Signs
Chief Martin reported on that at the request of the mayor, six caution cones and signs have been
placed around the schools in crosswalks and that he is working with IDOT to get signs placed on
state roads such as Route 47. He indicated that the police will be enforcing the signs and
violators will be fined $75.00.
Bomb Dog
Chief Martin also reported on two incidents where the Police Department's bomb dog was
requested. One request was from the Waukegan High School and the Waukegan Police Chief
sent a thank you letter for the assistance. The other request was from the DuPage County
Courthouse and the Chief Judge sent a letter of thank you for the use of the dog. Chief Martin
noted that the cost of obtaining and training the dog was approximately $50,000.00 which was
funded by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF).
Click It or Ticket
Chief Martin reminded everyone to buckle up because Yorkville will have specific officers
looking for offenders.
Watering Restrictions
Chief Martin reported that the Police Department is working with the Public Works Department
in enforcing the watering restrictions.
DIRECTOR OF PARKS & RECREATION'S REPORT
Director Mogle reported on events scheduled for the summer; Rolling on the River which will be
held August 25, 2007 at the Hoover Outdoor Education Center which includes camping,
canoeing and bicycle riding, Oktoberfest which will be sponsored by the Optimist Club, Music
Under the Stars and Movie in the Park.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPOR
Director Miller reported that at the next Economic Development Committee meeting there will be
a short presentation given by Greg Weber on the new component to the City website,
yorkvilleGIS.com.
COMMUNITY RELATIONS MANAGER'S REPORT
Garbage Rate Increase
Ms. Spies reported that letters will be sent to residents on June 11, 2007 regarding the rate
increase for garbage disposal.
Waubonsee Community College
Ms. Spies reported that she was contacted by Waubonsee Community College who is looking for
1 representatives from every community. She asked if any Council members were interested and
Alderman Werderich volunteered.
5& Anniversary Celebration
Ms. Spies reported that there would be a special Music Under the Stars on June 27, 2007 for the
50` Anniversary celebration as well as an ice cream social on July 4, 2007. She stated that there
are about 100 time capsule envelopes still available at City Hall.
Newsletters and Website Profiles
Ms. Spies indicated that she will be working on updating profiles for the newsletter and website.
Mayor Burd encouraged the aldermen to get involved in the 5& Anniversary and she thanked
Ms. Spies for her hard work on events.
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COMMUNITY & LIAISON REPORT
No report.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE REPORT
� Rob Roy Creek Interceptor (North Branch #1)
Change Order #2
(PW 2007 -74)
A motion was made by Alderman Besco to approve a Change Order for the Rob Roy Creek
Interceptor (North Branch # 1) - Change Order #2 and authorize increase in an amount not to
exceed $20,380.00 and authorize Mayor to execute; seconded by Alderman Munns.
Alderman Spears stated that this item was to return to the City Council without payment for crop
damage however there is not an updated copy. City Engineer Wywrot noted that there was a
memo from Attorney Roth regarding the crop damage. Attorney Roth stated that it was a short
memo which analyzed and reported that the motion as presented was appropriate and that it was
appropriate to include the crop damage under this change order.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -8 Nays -0
Spears -aye, Sutcliff -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye,
Gohnski -aye, Werderich -aye, Munns -aye, Plocher -aye
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE REPORT
Ordinance 2007 -42 Castle Bank Trust #2508 Annexation
Authorizing the Execution
(EDC 2006 -97)
A motion was made by Alderman Leslie to approve an ordinance authorizing the execution of an
Annexation Agreement with Castle Bank Trust #2508 as presented; seconded by Alderman
Spears.
Director Miller gave a brief overview of the Annexation Agreement and indicated that the
intended use of the property is for an assisted living facility.
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Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -9 Nays -0
Leslie -aye, Golinski -aye, Werderich -aye, Munns -aye,
Plocher -aye, Spears -aye, Sutcliff -aye, Besco -aye, Burd -aye
Ordinance 2007 -43 Castle Bank Trust #2508 - Annexing
(EDC 2006 -97)
A motion was made by Alderman Leslie to approve an ordinance annexing the Castle Bank Trust
42508 property to the United City of Yorkville as presented; seconded by Alderman Munns.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -8 Nays-0
Golinski -aye, Werderich -aye, Munns -aye, Plocher -aye,
Spears -aye, Sutcliff -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye
Ordinance 2007 -44 Castle Bank Trust #2508 - Rezoning
(EDC 2006 -97)
A motion was made by Alderman Leslie to approve an ordinance rezoning the Castle Bank Trust
#2508 property in furtherance of the Annexation Agreement to the United City of Yorkville as
presented; seconded by Alderman Besco.
1 Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -8 Nays -0
Werderich -aye, Munns -aye, Plocher -aye, Spears -aye,
Sutcliff -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Golinski -aye
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT
No report.
ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE REPORT
No report.
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ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Meeting Structure
Alderman Leslie commented on a discussion that was held at the Committee of the Whole
meeting on May 15, 2007 regarding the restructuring of committee and the timing for the
meeting. He expressed his concern with the ability to cover the meetings mmnin concurrently.
Monty Charges for Smaller Garbage Cans
Alderman Spears indicated that at the last meeting, Mr. Olson indicated that he was going to
check on monthly charges for smaller garbage cans. She asked if he had the opportunity to do
this. Mr. Olson indicated that he did not.
Compost Site Report
Alderman Spears questioned if Code Official Bill Dettmer had prepared a report on the compost
site. Administrator Crois stated that it was prepared however Mr. Dettmer did not give him a
copy before he left last week. Mayor Burd added that she spoke with the Assistant Code
Enforcement Officer who said he goes out on Monday, Wednesday and Friday to check on the
operation and that he immediately responds to any calls of complaint. There was a discussion
regarding the inspections. The Council requested a weekly report that included information on
what is checked and what the findings are. Mayor Burd noted that adjacent to this property is an
IDOT site where they dump road kill and this contributes to the odor. She stated that this was
discussed with IDOT and they are taking steps to remedy it. Administrator Crois added that
IDOT was dumping the carcasses there without burying them or treating them with lime.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to adjourn. So moved by Alderman Spears; seconded by
Alderman Munns.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
Meeting adjoumed at 10:05 P.M.
Minutes submitted by:
Lisa Pickering,
Deputy City Clerk City of Yorkville, Illinois
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2 MAYOR VALERIE BURD, Chairman,
3 MR. GARY GOLINSKI, Alderman,
4 MR. WALLY WERDERICH, Alderman,
5 MR. JOSEPH PLOCHER, Alderman,
6 MR. MARTY MUNNS, Alderman,
7 MS. ROSE SPEARS, Alderman,
8 MR. JOSEPH BESCO, Alderman,
9 MR. JASON LESLIE, Alderman
10 MS. ROBYN SUTCLIFF, Alderman.
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1 MAYOR BURD: All right. Tonight we have
2 no presentations. Mr. Roth, will we need a motion
3 to open the public hearing?
4 MR. ROTH: No. The matter is on the
08:14PM 5 agenda, has been set for this time, and it can be
6 declared open. A motion should be in order to
7 close it at the end of the public hearing though.
8 MAYOR BURD: All right. Then we will go
9 into public hearing on SB & WD, LLC petitioner who
08:14PM 10 has filed an application with the United City of
11 Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting
12 rezoning from the United City of Yorkville R -3 to
13 United City of Yorkville PUD zoning to allow uses
14 permitted in the R -3 zoning classification, an
08:14PM 15 amendment to the original annexation agreement,
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16 and for hearing as to the concept PUD plan,
17 preliminary PUD plan, and amended annexation
18 agreement of the petitioner. The real property
19 consists of approximately 9.69 acres located south
08:14PM 20 of the southeast corner of Route 47 and 71,
21 Yorkville, Illinois. Is there anyone here
22 representing the petitioner?
23 MR. GUERARD: Yes. Good evening. I'm
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1 loudly. I'm not sure if this is on or not. Rich
2 Guerard, from Wyndham Deerpoint. I'm one of the
3 partners and one of the owners of the proposed
4 project. I'll give a brief quick history. This
08:15PM 5 property, you will see that it was part of a
6 parcel of property that goes like this that was
7 annexed into the City in 2000.
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9 annexed B -3 business and the portion we are
08:15PM 10 talking about tonight was brought in as R -3 for
11 townhomes. And what we are asking for tonight is
12 an R -3 townhome zoning on the property and a PUD.
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14 this project first. We are going through the
08:15PM 15 process we went through, the concept process. A
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19 amount of units and this has to do with the
08:16PM 20 entryway. When we are going through the
21 preliminary plat process in 2005, we did not have
22 this connection that now goes through Route 47.
23 We are proposing a connection to the north,
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1 existing Kendall County subdivision to the City
2 and a connection to the townhome project to the
3. east. And this currently is a built connection to
4 this property line. These are private roads on
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8 determined that the Council really felt that this
9 needed an access to Route 47, that that was a more
08:16PM 10 appropriate entrance. That's where I have been
11 for the last two years, basically working on that.
12 We have an agreement for the
13 right -of -way with this commercial owner, and then
14 we had to work with IDOT with this connection on
08:17PM 15 Route 47. And where we are now is it is going --
16 it is approved, it has been approved with a
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18 connected across the street from the commercial
19 intersection for this property. So we are in the
08:17PM 20 process of coordinating that with IDOT and with
21 the property owners to the other side so that the
22 intersection will be complete.
23 So the good news is now these
24 residents will have a full signalized safe
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1 intersection to make right and left turns. So the
2 main changes we made now is we are not proposing
3 going to the north anymore and these trees will be
4 saved through here because we have now a full
08:17PM 5 intersection. And then we are proposing that this
6 intersection be put in and a gate would be put
7 there so that would be emergency access only going
8 to the project to the east, so that will serve as
9 emergency access actually for both projects.
08:17PM 10 As part of this -- one of the
11 reasons I'm going through this is to -- we are
12 agreeing to update the annexation agreement to the
13 current fees, and I'm going to pass what we are
14 proposing to build. We are going to be meeting
08:18PM 15 and exceeding all the city ordinances regarding
16 architecture and the changes that have happened
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08:18PM 20 same project we are building in South Elgin right
21 now. The project has -- about 75 percent of the
22 front you will see is brick and that the brick
23 actually wraps around the buildings. They are all
24 two -car garages. They are all planned with
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1 basements. It is an upscale project or proposal
2 that we have for the property. Sometimes because
3 the elevations may look a little different than
4 the real thing, I also brought some pictures of
08:19PM 5 the actual unit that's built in South Elgin, if
6 you can pass that around a little bit for me.
7 And then, as I said, that's a quick
8 summary. This is in substantial conformance with
9 the project. The Plan Commission recommended
08:19PM 10 approval. They wanted this as an emergency
11 access. They recommended that this not be
12 followed through -- taken through. They also
13 recommended some additional parking, which we have
14 added now to the plan to this south -- I think
08:20PM 15 there is -- there is over five parking spaces per
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17 two in the driveway, and then another 60 in
18 addition to that, so it has a lot of guest parking
19 and parking for the project now.
08:2oPM 20 And we are proposing -- this park
21 here that you see, that will either go to the Park
22 District or it will go to a homeowners association
23 with a cash contribution to the Park District.
24 That's a decision that the Park District can make
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1 as they look at it. And I think that's a pretty
2 good summary. I would be happy to answer any
3 other questions. It has been through here many
4 times before so probably most of you are pretty
08:20PM 5 familiar with this.
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6 MR. LESLIE: I just want an update --
7 MAYOR BURD: Excuse me, I think we need
8 to let the audience ask questions first before the
9 aldermen do for public hearing. That's the way we
08:20PM 10 do it. Is there any public comment on -- any
11 questions from the public on this?
12 MR. GRANT: Mayor, Attorney Tom Grant
13 from Yorkville. I don't have any comments or
14 questions for Richard but I just advise the
08:21PM 15 Council that on behalf of my clients, who are the
16 Fishers and the Marciniaks who live in the Walnut
17 Ridge subdivision to the north, now support this
18 project given the fact that Walnut Street will not
19 go through the subdivision and the configuration
08:21PM 20 as presently presented will be approved and we
21 would appreciate that.
22 MAYOR BURD: Any other comments or
23 questions? All right.. Then we will entertain
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1 MR. LESLIE: Richard, basically the only
2 change you are doing then is this proposed
3 intersection, right, and the rerouting of the
4 traffic, is that it?
08:21PM 5 MR. GUERARD: Yes, really, and then this
6 all is connected, obviously, with the intersection
7 of Route 47, but, yes, that's the only substantial
8 change. I should say for the record I did give my
9 card to the court reporter, but it is Rich Guerard
08:21PM 10 from Wyndham Deerpoint, and my address is 605
11 Lindsay Circle,, North Aurora, Illinois 60542.
12 MAYOR BURD: Any questions?
13 MS. SPEARS: The townhouses were already
14 approved several years ago, correct?
08:22PM 15 MR. GUERARD: Were not, you said?
16 MS. SPEARS: They were.
17 MR. GUERARD: No. This is new. We are
18 upgrading the plan here based on the project and
19 the timing, so the footprint is the same footprint
08:22PM 20 that was shown before so that hasn't changed. But
21 what we did not do is actually present the
22 architecture. Although I may have shown the
23 architecture back then. It wasn't part of the
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1 MS. SPEARS: But it was zoned for
2 townhomes, correct?
3 MR. GUERARD: Yes, same amount of
4 townhomes shown.
08:22PM 5 MS. SPEARS: Thank you.
6 MAYOR BURD: I have a question. Can you
'.! 7 explain how you are going to try to save some of
8 the trees, I hope? How are you going to interact
9 with the trees?
08:22PM 10 MR. GUERARD: The principal thing that
11 we are doing, this park and detention area, these
12 are all trees. We do not plan to take the trees
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14 edge to it, and what our proposal is there will be
08:23PM 15 some berming that will be built here that will
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17 but we are planning to actually leave the trees
18 and preserve this and we have been working
19 basically with the engineer with the City in an
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08:23PM 20 attempt to do that. We are going to be saving the
21 trees back here that we can and we are saving this
22 major area of trees, which is one reason why
23 long term it might not work for the Park District.
24 Depending on the trees that are there, they may
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I determine it is not active space for them.
,1 2 MAYOR BURD: Are you going to save any
3 of the trees around the buildings?
4 MR. GUERARD: Yes, to the extent we can.
1 08:23PM 5 What I don't know is just with the grades what we
6 can do with the buildings there. You know, the
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8 feet apart, I think, and it will depend on what
9 the grading will allow because there is a lot of
08:24PM 10 topo -- along here there is a lot of drop that has
11 to be dealt with, so to the extent we can save
12 in- between the buildings and on all the edges, we
13 are going to. Obviously the streets with the
14 utilities in the streets, they take up the trees
08:24PM 15 in the center.
16 MAYOR BURD: One of the thoughts I had
17 was would you be willing to move, you know, a
18 building to save a tree or try to position it a
19 little differently or work that way
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08:24PM 20 architecturally to try to work around the trees?
21 MR. GUERARD: The City has worked with
22 us before on projects to allow that to happen, and
23 because this is a PUD we probably would be able to
24 do that. Now, what we have done meets all the
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1 standard zonings, so to move all that we'd be
2 looking at a variance. What's different is this
3 is a PUD, so I believe the City has some
4 flexibility and certainly the staff and the
08:24PM 5 engineers always have used that when they feel
6 they are able to it. So it is something we can
7 continue to look as we go through the process.
8 MAYOR BURD: I was wondering if you
9 would be willing do that.
08:25PM 10 MR. GUERARD : We are willing to do that
11 to the extent we can, yes.
12 MAYOR BURD: Okay. Any other questions?
13 MR. BESCO: Wasn't at one time this
14 parcel deemed to be senior housing?
08:25PM 15 MR. GUERARD: I think someone sometime
16 before 2003 was talking about that. It has always
17 been zoned R -3 and came in as R -3'in the
18 annexation. I remember hearing in 2001 or 2
19 somebody was talking about it, but we have had it
08:25PM 20 since 2003 and we have never proposed that.
21 MR. BESCO: Okay, thank you. That's
22 all.
23 MR. PLOCHER: I'm just trying to get a
24 little more familiar with the development. What
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1 are you looking for like -- how many bedrooms are
2 they and how much do you think you would be
3 getting for a per -unit price, just an estimate.
4 MR. GUERARD: These unit sizes going
08:25PM 5 from 1503 to 29 -- almost 2300 square feet of
6 finished space, so they are fairly large units.
7 The prices on these in South Elgin are 235 to 280,
8 depending on what people put in them and how they
9 are finished. So I would expect a similar price
08:26PM 10 range.
11 MR. PLOCHER: Thanks. Yeah, that's it.
12 MAYOR BURD: Any other questions? Thank
13 you.
14 MR. GUERARD: Thank you.
08:26PM 15 MAYOR BURD: I would like to entertain a
16 motion to close the public hearing.
17 MS. SPEARS: So moved.
18 MAYOR BURD: Second?
19 MR. GOLINSKI: Second.
08:26PM 20 MAYOR BURD: All in favor say aye?
21 (A chorus of ayes.)
22 MAYOR BURD: All against, nay?
23 (No response.)
24 MAYOR BURD: Okay. Then we move on to
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1 our second public hearing of the night. Donald
2 Hamman and Carol Hamman, petitioners, have filed
3 an application with the United City of Yorkville,
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08:26PM 5 to the PUD Agreement (Ordinance 2000 -34) . The
6 real property consists of approximately 127.56
7 acres, generally located 70 acre part of Hamman
8 PUD described in Ordinance 2000 -34 easterly of
9 Yorkville Crossings Unit One (common address 8823
08:27PM 10 Rt . 34 in Yorkville ) and 57.57 acres north of
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12 development.
13 MR. DUGGAN: Good evening. My name is
14 John Duggan, and I'm one the attorneys for the
08:27PM 15 developer and Mike Schoppe is here with us. This
16 application was requested by -- thank you -- by
1 17 the staff to come forward with a plan for the area
18 around the pond that's currently under
19 construction. This has been under construction
08:27PM 20 for several years now, approximately 140 -acre feet
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22 the pond so far.
23 Several things have happened that
24 have caused the plan that were in the original
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1 annexation agreement to have a change recommended,
2 and one of them is that Crimson Drive, which is
3 the street parallel to Route 34, has been moved
4 further northerly and that was because of the
08:28PM 5 request depth of commercial property increase and
6 also because the detention for the Menards
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8 pond was not elected by Menards to be utilized in
9 connection with this pond. So about 128 feet
08:28PM 10 of -- 120 acres of contributory area for the pond
11 has been removed from the project by Menards and
12 so the pond need got smaller and the idea that the
13 commercial should get deeper also corresponded
14 with that idea.
08:28PM 15 We additionally dedicated some
16 additional right -of -way for Route 34, which is
17 contemplated to be widened to a fully- improved
18 five -lane median, the Veterans Parkway, in
19 connection with that project.
08:29PM 20 The project that's sought to be
21 amended is the area northerly of the existing B -3
22 property on the project, and the second amendment
23 is that -- Mike Schoppe who is here will describe
24 this -- is suggesting that this particular area
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1 along here rather than being front - loaded
2 single- family lots will be better served with
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4 Crimson Drive. And, secondly, he was suggesting
08:29PM 5 that they should be multifamily as a transition
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7 single- family residential north of the project.
8 And I would like Mike to describe the project to
9 you.
08:29PM 10 MR. SCHOPPE : Thank you, John. To put
11 it into perspective, some of the elements that are
12 in the concept plan that's currently part of the
13 annexation agreement -- if you remember those of
14 you that were around in 2000, there is a concept
08:30PM 15 plan that's included in that annexation agreement,
16 and what that concept plan shows is that along
17 this property line there was planned to be a city
18 street that would be right up against the property
19 line. That was approved before Prairie Meadows
08:3oPM 20 ever came along.
21 With Prairie Meadows' approval,
22 Prairie Meadows has single- family lots that back
23 up along that lot line. So we thought rather than
24 having a city street along their backyard, which
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1 would in essence cause all the residents to have a
2 double lot, we thought it would be much better to
3 take the road to the street and pull it away from
4 the property line so that we would have
08:30PM 5 single - family lots this development in Yorkville
6 Crossings backing up to single - family lots in
7 Prairie Meadows.
8 And, secondly, the Autumn Creek
9 project, which wasn't approved when this original
08:31PM 10 annexation took place, it has Crimson Lane coming
11 through here and this section of Autumn Creek has
12 got townhome filters along it. So as you were
13 driving from the east and driving west on Crimson,
14 you would be going through single- family in Autumn
08:31PM 15 Creek and then you'd go through a townhome section
16 in Autumn Creek, and then into Yorkville
17 Crossings.
18 So with those existing townhomes in
19 Autumn Creek, we thought as you continued further
08:31PM 20 west toward the shopping area that putting
21 townhomes there would be a logical extension of
22 the uses that had already been built in Autumn
23 Creek. And the other benefit to that is that in
24 Autumn Creek there was discussion about the number
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1 of driveway cuts going onto Crimson Lane, and it
2 was thought that the driveway cuts should be
3 minimized on Crimson Lane. And that was one of
4 the main reasons for the townhomes to be approved
08:31PM 5 along Autumn Creek. And if you look at the layout
6 of those townhomes, they are in a cluster. They
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8 going out into Crimson Lane. We thought that same
9 concept would apply here, and rather than having
08:32PM 10 16 to 20 single- family lots with 16 to 20
11 driveways coming out onto Crimson Lane, we could
12 design this with townhomes and instead we would
13 only have five driveways coming onto Crimson Lane.
14 So we have a significant reduction in the number
08:32PM 15 of driveways. That's the rationale behind making
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17 onto Crimson Lane.
18 Those are the primary land -use
19 changes between this concept plan and the concept
08:32PM 20 plan that's currently in that annexation
21 agreement. There is a host of best management
22 practices that are incorporated, the drainage
23 system for both the Walmart site, the commercial
24 site, and residential, because water quality is an
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1 important issue with the stormwater management
2 facility, and a host of other engineering issues
3 that need to be addressed. This is just
4 describing the differences between this concept
08:33PM 5 plan and the previous concept plan.
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6 MAYOR BURD: Okay. Do we have any
7 questions from the audience? None.
8 AUDIENCE MEMBER: How many additional --
9 MAYOR BURD: Would you identify
08:33PM 10 yourself?
11 MR. GILMORE: Tom Gilmore. How many
12 additional townhome lots did that net in the
13 development?
14 MR. SCHOPPE: In the previous -- on the
08:33PM 15 concept plan that's currently in the annexation
16 agreement there are no townhomes.
1 17 MR. GILMORE: Multifamily.
18 MR. SCHOPPE: There is no multifamily in
19 that previous proposal. This proposal is
08:33PM 20 including 70 multifamily units.
21 MAYOR BURD: Any more questions? Okay.
22 Do we have any questions from the City Council?
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24 and comments. Originally there were no townhomes
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1 and now we are going to throw in some townhomes.
2 The original detention was 64 acres and now we are
3 going to drop it down to 25. And I think when the
4 whole concept plan was sold to us, the whole thing
1 08:34PM 5 was it was going to be a beautiful pond, we are
6 going to have these beautiful single - family homes,
7 it is going to be desirable to the surrounding
8 areas. And in my personal opinion we have way too
9 many townhomes in our city. We have too many that
08:34PM 10 have already been approved, we have some that
11 dated back to 2000, and that's great, that's why
12 that was -- I asked Mr. Guerard.
13 I'm not in favor of this change at
14 all. I really -- less driveways, that's okay.
08:34PM 15 Traffic is so congested anyhow it doesn't make any
16 difference. I am not in favor of changing and
17 adding the townhomes.
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19 if our staff can tell us by reducing the
08:35PM 20 detention, what is the quality of the water, the
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22 Travis?
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24 can let you know. Basically the volume has been
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1 calculated by the petitioner's engineers and has
2 been calculated by the City engineering staff and
3 we have confirmed that the reduction in need for
4 stormwater originally proposed in Menards and
` 08:35PM 5 Yorkville Crossings subdivision, which included
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7 was contemplated as the 64 acre area, would manage
8 all of the stormwater for the development.
9 Since 2000 -- and development
08:35PM 10 approvals that have been within Yorkville
11 Crossings -- that development has been approved
12 with another detention basin in other stormwater
13 management areas thereby reducing the need for 64
14 acres of stormwater management in this location.
08:36PM 15 This is a very sandy area, very
16 sandy soils, so the preferred -- from an
17 environmental standpoint, the preferred stormwater
18 management approach in this location is to
19 bioswales that are included on this site plan and
08:36PM 20 reduce the amount of surface water area in
21 preference for depressed dry areas to allow the
22 stormwater an opportunity to infiltrate into that
23 sand before getting into the lake itself. So from
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1 quantity and water quality, we still arrive at the
2 conclusion that this is a superior solution over
3 the 64 -acre lake that was originally contemplated
4 for the entire annexation area.
08:36PM 5 About a year ago city staff did --
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6 over a year ago now, requested this petitioner to
7 prepare this land plan. Since 2000, again, the
8 projects that have developed at Menards have
9 happened by the efforts of -- the plan at that
08:37PM 10 time for Menards, the master plan for Menards, but
11 it has happened piecemeal and we were left with a
12 remaining area, 127 acres, and the trends in some
13 of those changes, zoning changes, one of them
14 being the increase in commercial area off of 34 to
08:37PM 15 accommodate the Walmart plan as well as the
16 stormwater management issues, led us to request
17 this petitioner come in and amend -- request an
18 amendment to the PUD to give us a vision of what
19 the remaining acreage was going to look like, and
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22 of how we handle stormwater and traffic and
23 mixture of land uses.
24 Crimson Lane, it was pointed out on
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1 this plan, the original concept plan that was
2 approved in 2000 was approved allowing commercial
3 uses 800 feet off 34 so there is on the current
4 zoning map a 800 -foot wide strip of land zoned
08:38PM 5 commercial. But when Walmart acquired the 34
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7 that's on the board by the easel, they approached
8 the plan commission, the City Council, last year
9 and asked for an additional 400 feet to be zoned
08:38PM 10 commercial to accommodate the Walmart plan and to
11 allow for outlots in front.
12 At that point we realized that
13 Crimson Lane needed to be shifted because it made
14 sense to have a frontage road to service behind
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18 plan over to Walnut Creek, really the alignment
19 that's been prepared on this plan has been forced
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21 that the area between that road and 34 be
22 commercial, because that 400 -foot strip of
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1 long- windedly answered your question about
2 stormwater and led to a couple other things, but
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4 land plan based on the current circumstances on
08:39PM 5 the property.
6 MR. LESLIE: I'm also very concerned
7 about the new townhome developments coming in and
8 the new push for developers pursuing residential
9 development. It seems to be a new trend. There
08:39PM 10 are a couple of projects coming forth, one in my
11 backyard, that's wanting to utilize as much space
12 as possible to optimize and maximize their
13 development perspective, and in terms of a PUD,
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08:40PM 15 comments.
16 MR. PLOCHER: Yeah. My view on the
17 townhomes is about the same as the other two
18 aldermen. I think the main issue here was the
19 traffic and that was the problem with the outlets
08:40PM 20 but I don't think 70 townhomes is going to be
21 lightening the traffic any, so I'm not in favor of
22 that in any way.
23 MR. MUNNS: I have a question. On
24 Page 9 it says there is 130 -foot strip adjacent to
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2 you pointed out at the beginning or is that
3 somewhere -- it says right next to a roadway or --
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4 MR. DUGGAN: I'm sorry, Page 9?
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7 roadway.
8 MR. DUGGAN: The original concept plan
9 was to have a park here that would connect to a
08:41PM 10 20 -acre future park on this area. That park
11 wasn't built with respect to Autumn Creek. We
12 then -- we went to the Park District with respect
13 to their request for a park and a beach, and the
14 Park District advised us that it preferred to have
08:41PM 15 cash to the land so that we prepared the plan
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18 here, we would provide it. We were talking about
19 possibly, you know, building a dog park here with
08:41PM 20 the Park District. That was a suggestion they had
21 we thought was salutary and we could have included
22 it in the plan. I just talked to Dan this
23 afternoon and he thought they felt that they might
24 prefer to have the cash rather than the dog park
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1 at that location.
2 We are several years away from
3 actually building this. We were hoping to get
4 concept plan approval with respect to this. We
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7 several years away from coming up with a final
8 concept on the -- or final construction on the
9 subdivision. So this isn't imminent but we were
08:42PM 10 asked to bring forward a concept plan. We think
11 this is a good .plan.
12 If you wish to have a park, we
13 could either put it here or in some other
14 location. The number of units has gone down and
08:42PM 15 the size of the lake has gone down. And, again,
16 if you recall, the original plan was to have this
17 pond be contributory to the Walmart project and
18 Walmart -- I'm sorry, the Menards project.
19 Menards was going to participate economically in
08:42PM 20 the construction of the lake. It elected not to
21 do that, so we -- there is no reason to build the
22 lake, the 64 acres.
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24 change was occasioned, dedicated -- we dedicated
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1 the easement, so right now there is also the
2 sanitary sewer for Autumn Creek that's in the
3 right -of -way of Crimson Drive and that's down 25
4 feet already.
08:43PM 5 MR. MUNNS: Okay, thanks.
6 MR. DUGGAN: We could possibly build the
7 lake over that at this point.
8 MR. MUNNS: Thank you.
9 MR. SCHOPPE: I should add, the drawing
08:43PM 10 that we just handed out, that's the concept plan
11 that -- I think it is Exhibit I to the current
12 annexation agreement.
13 MR. MUNNS: Got it.
14 MR. SCHOPPE: And as you can see, along
08:43PM 15 Crimson Lane on that concept plan, along Crimson
16 Lane right through here, you will see there is 31
17 single- family lots that are fronting onto Crimson
18 Lane and we can certainly do that -- if that's the
19 desire of Council, we can certainly do that.
08:44PM 20 We just thought that with the
21 discussions in -- that took place in Autumn Creek
22 and the desire to minimize the amount of driveways
23 onto Crimson and the fact that there are townhomes
24 there currently, that that was a logical extension
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1 of the land use and also helps us solve the issue
2 of reducing the number of driveway cuts onto
3 Crimson Lane. But we could -- if that's the
4 desire of the Council to go back to single - family
08:44PM 5 there, I am sure we could certainly do that.
6 MAYOR BURD: Alderman Spears?
7 MS. SPEARS: Just a matter of history on
8 the property, is that property -- I know it came
9 to Council at one time to have it as a quarry type
08:44PM 10 where they are excavating the sand and they are a
11 business. Was it ever zoned for that purpose?
12 MR. DUGGAN: I don't think this was ever
13 proposed. At one time when the land owner
14 purchased it back in 1972, it was with the object
08:45PM 15 of quarrying it. He did the feasibility studies
16 and did the testing on the property but I don't
17 think he ever proposed it at this location.
18 MS. SPEARS: So then my next question
19 would be all this sand that now is removed for the
08:45PM 20 pond and everything - -
21 MR. DUGGAN: Right.
22 MS. SPEARS: -- where is that going?
23 MR. DUGGAN: He is trucking it over to
24 Fox Ridge Stone and he is processing it.
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1 MR. MUNNS: It is blowing over Route 34,
2 actually if you drive out there every day.
3 MS. SPEARS: No kidding. The trucks cut
4 out in front of me. My question is so it actually
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08:45PM 5 is operating, in my opinion, as a quarry type.
6 However, it is taking it to another town, I
7 believe Oswego, and it is selling it there --
8 MR. DUGGAN: Right.
9 MS. SPEARS: -- and they are profiting,
08:45PM 10 Oswego rather than Yorkville.
11 MR. DUGGAN: Well, part of the reason
12 for that was, one, because the pond was reduced in
13 size it was no longer feasible to -- if you
14 recall, he did have a permit -- the right in the
08:46PM 15 annexation agreement to put a processing plant at
16 that location to process the materials and to --
17 and to even operate a Ready Mix plant at that
18 location. But because the pond -- because Menards
19 elected not to participate in the pond, it was no
08:46PM 20 longer economically feasible to do that. So
21 basically it is obviously undesirable to truck the
22 material for processing, you know, somewhere else
23 and move it twice, but that's the only thing that
24 they could feasibly do. They bought the scales
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1 and they were prepared to process them at that
2 location, you know, but when the size of the pond
3 was necessarily shrunk by the election of the
4 adjoining developer, they -- you know, it was no
08:46PM 5 longer feasible to do that.
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6 MS. SPEARS: So are they done?
7 MR. DUGGAN: I'm sorry?
8 MS. SPEARS: Are they finished with the
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9 sand and digging and hauling?
08:47PM 10 MR. DUGGAN: Very close to be finished,
11 Alderman Spears. It was -- approximately 152 -acre
12 feet of volume is expected to be ultimately taken
13 out and has already about 142 -acre feet taken out.
14 So they are within a year or two of completion,
08:47PM 15 and then there has to be some finishings of the
16 shapes and slopes and the finalization of the
17 project. So they are fairly close to being done.
18 MS. SPEARS: Again, I think the burden
19 is on the City, it is on our roads, it is on our
08:47PM 20 pedestrians traveling. Again, we were under the
21 impression it was going to be this big beautiful
22 lake --
23 MR. DUGGAN: It will be a beautiful
24 lake.
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1 MS. SPEARS: -- it's going to be open to
2 the public, it is going to have these gorgeous
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3 single - family homes surrounding it. And I think,
4 you know, the City's been deceived. I think this
08:47PM 5 is coming back now and it is going to be smaller
6 scale and we are going to put townhomes and have
7 an itty -bitty little lake and, yeah, we are going
8 to ruin your roads and sand is going to be blowing
9 all over and another city's going to be profiting
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08:48PM 10 from the sale of something that is taken out of
11 Yorkville.
12 MR. DUGGAN: Well, every step of this
13 process and the changes in it were all discussed
14 and disclosed to the city and its staff
08:48PM 15 throughout -- you know, continuously. We have
16 been in constant engagement and negotiation with
�. 17 the city as every change was made. For instance,
18 we were approached by the City to change the
19 location of the sanitary sewer, which basically,
08:48PM 20 you know, set the northern boundary of the
21 property. That's already been put in by -- you
22 know, at that location in anticipation of this.
23 So, again, I don't know what to
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1 but it is still a very large lake. I think a
2 25 -acre lake is a large lake. A 25 -acre
3 sand - bottom lake is a real asset to the community.
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4 It is a -- I think it is a lovely project, and I
08:49PM 5 think you will be happy with it. Right now the
6 water is, you know, pumped out into the field
7 because it has -- you know, to enable the
8 excavation to be economically conducted, but when
9 they are no longer pumping it, then it will reach
08:49PM 10 its natural water level and it will be a typical
11 sand - bottom lake.
12 If you want to look at one, they
13 have one across the river, and I think it is
14 beautiful. I think it will be a terrific feature
08:49PM 15 to the City, and the suggestion on the townhomes
16 was, again, the natural evolution of the way the
17 community developed and we are responding to that
18 rather than trying to, you know, profiteer on it.
19 You know, the existing concept
08:49PM 20 plan, I think everybody agrees, you know, the
21 events have overtaken it. The other developments
22 around it have set the standards and, you know,
23 what they thought was a good idea in 2000 probably
24 is -- you know, this was seen as a refinement of
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1 that idea and a better idea. Quite frankly we had
2 an idea at the plan commission that those perhaps
3 would be better suited as office or business uses.
4 Again, it might have less traffic. They might
08:50PM 5 have more impact and benefit to the city. We are
6 not against considering anything at that location.
7 Mr. Schoppe we think has great ideas and thought
8 this would be preferable to the front - loaded
9 single- family lots and I agreed with him. We felt
08:50PM 10 this was an enhancement of the concept.
11 As far as the other changes, they
12 have all been made in cooperation and coordination
13 with the way the adjoining properties have
14 evolved. That was what drove them, was the
08:50PM 15 market, and I think the concept of the plan was
16 that it was always going to be driven by the
17 demands of the market. I think that's in the best
18 interest of the city, that it -- that the plans be
19 flexible with respect to, you know, giving the
08:51PM 20 City what's in its best interest around what it
21 wants.
22 Obviously the commercial has the
23 advantage of generating more taxes, and I think
24 this is the type of project that would help it
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1 accomplish that. You know, we have, for instance,
2 a beautiful roadway being proposed, being
3 financed. I think that's a real asset to have a
4 boulevard, commercial Veterans Parkway, in front
08:51PM 5 of this property. I think it will be lovely. I
6 think the Walmart project, which set the depth of
7 this change, we think is a great enhancement. We,
8 of course, felt that that was the best use of the
9 property and we supported that and feel that
08:51PM 10 that's a good thing.
11 So all these changes were -- you
12 know, if we didn't change this to commercial or if
13 we didn't change this to townhome, we feel that
14 those were enhancements to the concept rather than
08:52PM 15 a detriment to them. We were asked to bring this
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16 forward ahead of its completion so that we can
17 talk about these things, whether it should be
18 business, office, or commercial, or some other
19 use, you know, we are open to discussion of that.
08:52PM 20 I don't think that the front - loaded
21 single- family homes would be the best application
22 in that location anymore, but, again, that's
23 something the City has to decide.
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1 is very important. Our community needs
2 commercial, but I don't want to do a tradeoff. I
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3 don't want to say, okay, we will take commercial
4 and we can put a million townhomes in. And
08:52PM 5 apparently that's the path I think our city has
6 been going down, and I would like to have our
7 Council just re- address this and think about it
8 and possibly change what we are doing.
9 MAYOR BURD: Alderman Besco?
08:52PM 10 MR. BESCO : The one thing that I think
11 if you were to replace the sing -- or the
12 townhomes with single- family homes, I don't think
13 that it would be a real good blend directly behind
14 Walmart. I can see where you need a transition
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08:53PM 15 area to some degree. I'm not crazy about all
16 these townhomes popping up either, but I think
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17 that's a transitional area changing over to
18 single - family so I don't know.
19 MR. PLOCHER: What is the current depth
08:53PM 20 of this retention lake? Do you know the depth of
21 this, how deep it is right now?
22 MR. DUGGAN: Sure. Well, right now it
23 is being pumped out. Again, the water is being
24 pumped out into this field, into a ditch that's
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1 been created on it to de -water it to assist in its
2 excavation. I did have a hydrologist study that
3 was done. It was 16 feet in depth that it would
4 be ultimately, I believe. I think it is intended
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08:54PM 5 to be -- the water level is going to be 16 -feet j
6 deep when it is completed.
7 MR. PLOCHER: Well, I was just thinking,
8 you know, to get the volume you need instead of
9 keep going deeper you could go wider and that
08:54PM 10 might relieve some of the -- you could cover where
11 the townhomes are going and alleviate it all
12 together.
13 MR. DUGGAN: On that point, on a zero
14 discharge basis this pond is expected to need
08:54PM 15 152 -acre feet of detention, and it will -- at this
16 configuration and it's 240 feet of detention on a
17 zero discharge basis. Currently it is using about
18 28 -acre feet detention out of the 140 that are
19 currently constructed. So as far as making it
08:54PM 20 wider, that really doesn't -- that's not indicated
21 by any detention needs for the contributory
22 property. It is already 25 percent higher on a
23 zero discharge basis than the needs of the
24 contributory area. Again, the 64 acres was sized
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1 with the Menards property included in it.
2 MAYOR BURD: Alderman Golinski?
3 MR. GOLINSKI: I like your suggestion of
4 office space or professional buildings. I think
08:55PM 5 that would make a nice transition. I don't
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6 understand the logic of limiting the cutoffs to
7 Crimson but then adding four times as many cars on
8 it. It doesn't make sense to me.
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9 MR. SCHOPPE: I can explain that, the
08:55PM 10 logic behind that. If there were the 30 driveways
11 that you show on that concept plan along here,
12 those are single- family homes, and as you drive
13 down the street every day the way you get out of
14 that lot is to back out onto Crimson Lane and
08:SSPM 15 drive. With this type of design you are not
16 backing out. These cars are leaving, are pulling
+� 17 head first out onto the road. And I believe
18 that's where the concerns were when the driveway
19 cuts were discussed in Autumn Creek. It is not
08:56PM 20 people going out onto the street, it is backing
21 out, stopping, and pulling forward and slowing
22 down that traffic. I think that's where the
23 concern over the number of curb cuts came. That's
24 the logic to reducing the number of curb cuts.
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1 The other point that we don't want
2 to lose sight on is that part of this discussion
3 is the issue of rezoning from this lot, the
4 commercial line being here, to pushing it back to
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08:56PM 5 here, where Crimson Lane will be. I think that's
6 another part of the amendment to the agreement.
7 MR. DUGGAN: Yes.
8 MAYOR BURD: Alderman Sutcliff?
9 MS. SUTCLIFF: I wasn't here when you
08:56PM 10 brought this forth before. What's the intended
11 use of this lake? Is it recreational at all? Is
12 it pretty? Is there any kind of public access to
13 it?
14 MR. SCHOPPE: Originally there was
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08:57PM 15 planned to have some recreational uses. If you
16 look at that exhibit, you see there is a note of a
17 park area or beach area and that's what the
18 intention was back in 2000. Now, with the changes
19 that Travis has mentioned and John has mentioned
08:57PM 20 over time, we went back to the park board and
21 asked them do you still want a beach on this lake?
22 And the direction we got from the park board was,
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23 no, they don't want a beach any longer or a park
24 any longer. So therefore we took the park idea
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1 off of the plans. Now, subsequent, maybe within
2 the last two months, there was talk of maybe a dog
3 park being provided around the lake, but I think I
4 heard John mention tonight I think that's being
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08:57PM 5 taken off the table as well. That's why there is
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6 no longer any city park around the lake.
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7 MR. WERDERICH: So there is no park plan
8 at all?
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9 MR. SCHOPPE: No. This residential area
08:58PM 10 around the lake, no, no park plan. There has been
11 parks planned for these residences and those would
12 be this ark right here, this
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13 Meadows, and right over here at Autumn Creek there
14 is another public city park. So those two parks
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08:58PM 15 would be fulfilling the recreational needs for the
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16 residents.
17 MR. WERDERICH: But nothing that would
18 utilize the lake.
19 MR. SCHOPPE: No, nothing that would
08:58PM 20 utilize the lake.
21 MR. MUNNS: It is really just going to
22 be a fancy extension pond to hold water.
23 MR. SCHOPPE: It is a private lake.
24 MR. MUNNS: A private lake that nobody
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1 will be able to enjoy or use.
2 MR. SCHOPPE: The residents that are
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3 living in this community --
4 MR. MUNNS: We were sold a bill of goods
08:58PM 5 then. It was going to be a beautiful thing that
6 everybody in the City could go and sit on the
7 beach and enjoy the lake.
8 MR. SCHOPPE: I believe if the City
9 wants a city park here or beach here, we could
08:59PM 10 still put that in the plan. We were just directed
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11 by the park to not do that, so that's why we have
12 gone this route.
13 MAYOR BURD: Seems to me there is a
14 communication issue between the park board and
08:59PM 15 City Council. City Council approved an idea --
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16 MR. MUNNS: Right. We approved the idea
17 and then they changed it without any input from
18 us.
19 MR. MOGLE: I can say a couple of
08:59PM 20 things. When it was brought to the park board,
21 originally the plan was a 64 -acre lake and that
22 was what was exciting to the park board at the
23 time. When it got diminished down to less than
24 half and then also becoming aware that it was
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1 really a detention area -- as far as when it first
2 came to us, we talked of a swimming beach. Well,
3 a swimming beach with a detention area and the
4 quality of the water we didn't feel to be very
08:59PM 5 appropriate, and with the lake then having been
6 reduced to a little less than half, it was less
7 attractive to the park board to do anything
8 recreationally on the lake.
9 Mike accurately described, we have
09:00PM 10 a park, a seven -acre park, in Prairie Meadows,
11 which is just to the northwest, and then in Autumn
12 Creek there is another seven -acre park to the
13 northeast. And we felt that those two parks would
14 adequately satisfy the recreational needs of this
09:oopm 15 Subdivision.
16 MS. SPEARS: I just would like to
17 address that. Again, when that was sold to us as
18 this beach, I was envisioning maybe somebody my
19 age could enjoy this. Your parks are lovely but,
o9:ooPM 20 trust me, I don't think I would go on any of the
21 swings or any of the park equipment. I think with
22 this beach we -- I was envisioning it as it would
23 serve a different type of population of our
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1 with the entire design, with this big lake that
2 people can go and sunbathe or swim or do whatever
3 they needed or whatever they wanted to do that
4 they can't do at a park.
09:o1PM 5 MR. MOGLE: Sure. As a 64 -acre body of
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6 water the park board was interested in that. The
7 park board's reaction was much the same as your
8 own when it became apparent that it would be less
9 than half the original size that was discussed.
09:01PM 10 MR. MUNNS : 25 acres, I mean, it is
11 still -- somebody was just up there saying that's
12 not a bad size. I can't -- I guess I'm just
13 trying to compare my lot and make it 25 acres, how
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14 big that would be. To me that should be big
09:O1PM 15 enough to have some kind of unique features.
16 Sure, you have a park down the
17 road. That's like every other park we have in the
18 City. It is not a beach area, something out of
19 the ordinary.
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09:02PM 20 MR. SCHOPPE: I believe this lake, the
21 24 acres, would be the second largest lake in
22 Yorkville, the first one being the stormwater
23 management facility up at the Montebano project.
24 I believe this would be the second largest.
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1 MS. SPEARS: Would this be safe to swim
2 in, something like this?
3 MR. DUGGAN: Well, you know, I think it
4 would be.
-_ 09:02PM 5 MS. SPEARS: Well, would you swim in it?
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6 MR. DUGGAN: Well, I do. We swim at the
7 Fox Ridge Stone lake all the time, and I don't
8 think there would be any -- you know, I think some
9 of the people are concerned about potential
09:02PM 10 contaminants from cars. Now, to that extent - -
11 and the reason that we show this concept plan now,
12 even though it is not completed, was because the
13 engineering staff wanted us to show the locations
14 of the sediment basins and the best management
09:03PM 15 practice facilities that would be to -- for the
16 purpose of purifying stormwater and eliminating
17 sediment and other matters that might be in
18 stormwater before it would get to the pond. So
19 that -- I think it is fairly robust as far as a
09:03PM 20 best management practice, and I think surface
21 water is often used as recreation.
22 You know, people swim in the Fox
23 River. Some people certainly boat in the Fox
24 River. This would probably be cleaner than the
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1 Fox River because it would, you know, be sand
2 bottomed and it would probably have a better water
3 quality. I think the Fox Ridge Stone pond has a
4 better water quality than the Fox River. That's
09:03PM 5 my perception. I haven't studied it. It seems
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6 that way. It is not as muddy, certainly, because
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7 it has a sand bottom and doesn't have organic
8 material and doesn't have a lot of green growth in
9 it so that the sunlight penetrates typically to
09:03PM 10 the bottom of the pond which allows it to digest
11 its biological oxygen demand more effectively and
12 more efficiently. That's why the sand - bottom
13 ponds function to be clearer and better, you know,
14 for that sort of purpose.
09:04PM 15 We would have no objection to
16 building the park that was discussed. You know,
17 the idea was that, you know, the Park District
18 analyzed and preferred the cash contributions to
19 the land, and so it's certainly there if you
09:04PM 20 prefer to study that and discuss it, you know, at
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21 a greater length. I would like to have a beach,
22 personally, and -- or the dog park that was
23 discussed in this area would be a nice feature,
24 and that's also the type of non - active park that I
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1 think has a lot of value to the citizenship. The
2 idea was the beach and a dog park would be useful
3 for a lot of people that like to, you know, have
4 water training for their dogs. So I don't think
09:05PM 5 either one of those options would be bad for the
6 city. Again, I think a 25 -acre lake is a great
7 lake, you know -- yes, sir?
8 MAYOR BURD: Excuse me, I recognize
9 people. Alderman Besco?
09:05PM 10 MR. BESCO: Yes. Recently I had the
11 opportunity to.be in St. Paul, Minnesota, and
12 there was -- actually it was Minneapolis. There
13 was a lake similar to this size, maybe a little
14 bit different configuration, but they had walking
o9:osPM 15 paths around it.
16 MAYOR BURD: That would be nice.
�. 17 MR. BESCO: And it was beautiful. The
18 people that used that blew me away. They were
19 walking and doing recreation that way. And I'm a
o9:osPM 20 little bit disappointed that the park board didn't
21 look at more uses for it. I think for them just
22 to turn their noses away from it, it is kind of
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24 MAYOR BURD: Well, especially after
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1 we -- after the City Council had specially denoted
2 that this was something we wanted to do. Any
3 other comments before we --
4 MR. WERDERICH: I wanted to ask if there
09:06PM 5 were any options in regard to the way that this is
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6 all planned to make that lake larger or in a
7 different shape? It is kind of in an odd shape
8 right now.
9 MR. DUGGAN: Again, the size of the lake
09:06PM 10 was based on the contributory area of the people
11 that wanted a detention, and we asked Pulte over
12 here if they wanted detention in it. Menards
13 indicated when we did -- we did our annexation
14 agreements jointly with them and we sized the lake
09:06PM 15 based on Menards utilizing the project and then
16 they elected not to.
17 We had already donated the land for
18 Countryside Parkway to McHugh and those were under
19 construction by the time it elected not to. And I
09:07PM 20 personally did the negotiations with Menards and
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21 it went on for about two or three years. The
22 calculation of the lake was based on the extra
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23 120 acres of contributory area which, again, is in
24 approximately this location.
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1 So right now the size of the pond,
2 we just got our May 10th report from our engineer,
3 is anticipated to have 240 -acre feet of detention
4 and that the entire fully developed requirements
09:07PM 5 on a zero discharge basis of the entire
6 contributory area is 152, so we are already
7 approximately a third larger than the engineering
8 needs of the project according to the current
9 calculations. If we make it larger -- it is not
09:07PM 10 a -- Alderman Spears is concerned that this was,
11 you know, some .kind of a sand and gravel
12 operation. Basically by the time you pay to
13 transport the material, it doesn't generate
14 significant profit. You are hopeful to break even
o9:o8PM 15 with it, so making it bigger I don't think would
16 be economically indicated. I suppose though --
17 there really would be no purpose to it. It's not
18 needed for detention.
19 MR. WERDERICH: But a different shape
09:08PM 20 though.
21 MR. DUGGAN: We are certainly amenable
22 to a different shape. They wanted to pull the
23 road away from Prairie Meadows, but we could
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1 would be glad to look at everything. That's why
2 we are coming forward. We wanted to show the best
3 management practices areas. We really have to
4 kind of start locating them and finalizing their
09:08PM 5 location. One of them I think is pretty well set
6 and that's the one in this location. Of course,
7 if we start building the pond over here or the
8 beach over on this area or a park, we should
9 probably know about that before we go
09:09PM 10 significantly further with construction of the
11 ponds. The balance of this, sure, we could ask
12 Mike to come up with different concepts.
13 MR. WERDERICH: And I guess the reason I
14 bring that up is because looking at the concept
09:09PM 15 plan that I have in front of me as opposed to the
16 one you have up there -- and maybe I'm at a bad
17 angle -- it looks like there is a large portion of
18 it that couldn't be utilized as a, quote, end
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19 quote, lake. The part up there in the upper
o9:o9PM 20 right -hand side, that's just kind of a sliver. I
21 don't think there is any lake uses that could be
22 made out of --
23 MR. SCHOPPE: Let me make sure I
24 understand the area you are referring to --
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1 MR. WERDERICH: Yeah, up in there.
2 MR. SCHOPPE: Let me turn it.
3 MR. WERDERICH: Yeah, I can see it
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4 better now. I don't know how far across that
09:09PM 5 would be, but I imagine this wouldn't be far ;
6 across at all.
7 MR. SCHOPPE: The lake area here is
8 probably over to -- from the top of the bank to
9 the top of the bank at the other side is only 175
09:10PM 10 to 200 f eet wide in here.
11 MR. WERDERICH: Just a thought, you
12 know. I was trying to think outside the box a
13 bit.
14 MR. SCHOPPE: Okay.
09:lOPM 15 MAYOR BURD : Alderman Gol inski ?
16 MR. GOLINSKI: Yeah. I don't think --
J 17 that's a little bit inaccurate. I don't think he
18 is here anymore. The park board didn't turn their
19 nose up on it. They lost interest in the changes
09:lOPM 20 that were made. Originally, what were the changes
21 on this beach originally when the park board was
22 looking at it? It was a large beach and we were
23 looking at all kinds of uses. We talked a lot
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q y, you recall, we
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1 were supposed to have a parks public works
2 maintenance facility out there that never came to
3 fruition. And now we are stuck with this large
4 seven -acre park down here. There was a lot of
09:11PM 5 things that went into the thought process, and I
6 think the park board obviously didn't change the
7 size of the lake. They don't have the ability to
8 change these plans. They responded to the changes
9 that were made in the plans.
09:11PM 10 MR. SCHOPPE: To answer your question.
11 I didn't prepare this so I'm going to estimate,
12 and I would guess it was probably 500 -- 5- to 600
13 linear feet of beach area on this original concept
14 plan.
o9:11PM 15 MR. GOLINSKI: And with the reduced size
16 of this lake, there is not that type of area
l 17 anymore for 500 feet of frontage, is there?
18 MR. DUGGAN: We would have this area
19 here, it is pretty much the same. And, again,
o9:luPM 20 that was where we -- at the last meeting when we
21 talked about locating the dog park, the thought
22 was that would be a good spot for it, but, again,
23 it is -- if there is a desire to put it there, we
24 can put it there.
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1 MAYOR BURD: Could we wind this up? We
2 have spent quite a lot of time on this issue and
3 mainly this is for public comment, not for City
4 Council to debate over it. We will continue this
09:12PM 5 at a later time. I would like to entertain a
6 motion to end this public hearing, if you don't
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7 mind.
8 MS. SPEARS: Can I ask one more
9 question?
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09:12PM 10 MAYOR BURD: I think you will have a
11 chance to ask more questions later --
12 MR. MUNNS: Motion to close --
13 MAYOR BURD: -- we have been talking
14 about this for quite a long time now, and if you
09:12PM 15 don't mind, I would like to move on. I have
16 motion on the floor, do I have a second?
17 MR. GOLINSKI: Second.
18 MAYOR BURD: Can I have a vote? All in
19 favor say aye.
09:12PM 20 (A chorus of ayes.)
21 MAYOR BURD: And any nays?
22 MS. SPEARS: Nay.
23 MAYOR BURD: Okay, ayes have it. Let's
24 move on. Thank you very much. We appreciate it.
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1 MR. DUGGAN: Will there be additional
2 discussion of this matter tonight?
3 MAYOR BURD: No.
4 MR. DUGGAN: Thank you.
09:13PM 5 MAYOR BURD: Any citizens comments?
6 MR. GLASMA: Thank you, your honor.
7 Carl Glasma of Yorkville. Let me thank Alderman
8 Spears for bringing up the subject of the
9 townhomes. That's something I'm too concerned
09:13PM 10 about, that there are too many townhomes in this
11 area and I appreciate you standing up for that and
12 I hope you get the answers to the questions that
13 you wish to ask.
14 The only question I had, your
09:13PM 15 Honor, was I was looking at the agenda, the
16 consent agenda, for today's meeting and No. 14
17 which is the cooperative agreement between the
18 City of Yorkville and the school district. When I
19 looked at the packet that's on -line that's
09:14PM 20 available that's 162 pages, I did not actually see
21 that agreement in the on -line packet. I don't
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23 162 -page version that was on -line, it was not
24 available. And that just -- that raised a flag
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1 for me because I did have a problem with the
2 previous agreement that the City Council -- not
3 necessarily this City Council, it was in 1975 --
4 where the City Council basically unilaterally
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7 1975 agreement. So before the City Council goes
8 forward and votes on any new agreement with the
9 school board, I was hoping we as citizens would
09:14PM 10 have an opportunity to review that to provide
11 comment. I would respectively ask that you table
12 Issue No. 14 until that agreement is made
13 available to the public for our review. Thank
14 you.
09:15PM 15 MAYOR BURD : From what I understand, it
16 is on the website in the committee -of- the -whole
17 packet. It was presented to the City Council for
18 review during our committee -of- the -whole session.
19 MR. GLASMA: And that might be true but
09:15PM 20 the fact of the matter is that the packet for
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22 voting on the consent agenda, it was not
23 available, and I don't think it is my
24 responsibility as a citizen to go through every
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1 packet that's available on the web page until I
2 find the document available for this meeting.
3 MAYOR BURD: The clerk informed me that
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09:15PM 5 MS. PICKERING : When there are no
6 changes made after a committee of the whole,
7 otherwise the packets would be recopying a lot of
8 the same material over and over.
9 MR. GLASMA: And I understand that but
09:15PM 10 as a resident I have a problem with that. As
11 residents it is not our responsibility to review
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14 available to the residents for their review.
09:16PM 15 MAYOR BURD: Okay. Perhaps in the
16 future you might want to put in the packet that
17 for more information on this item, look at
18 committee -of- the -whole packet number whatever date
19 so that the residents can find that information
09:16PM 20 without searching for it through all kinds of
21 agendas and --
22 MS. SPEARS: I -- sorry.
23 MAYOR BURD: You want to comment on the
24 citizen's comments?
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1 MS. SPEARS: I was going to comment on
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3 MAYOR BURD: Go ahead.
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09:16PM 5 MAYOR BURD: Anyway, we are going to the
6 consent agenda, so if anyone would like to amend
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8 there is another citizen comment. Come forward.
9 MR. NICKELSON: Good evening, my name's
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09:17PM 10 Dan Nickelson, and I actually didn't come here
11 planning to to speak on this, but after hearing
12 this matter of reducing the size of the lake,
13 taking out a swimming and recreational facility
14 that provides some very unique opportunities to
09:17PM 15 this area that aren't readily available, I would
16 strongly encourage you to stay with the beach
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17 idea. I grew up swimming in a beach. It is
18 absolutely fantastic. It was a great opportunity.
19 Mr. Hamman out of this agreement
09:17PM 20 will yield 39 acres more of development, 70
21 townhomes. That's a substantial impact to this
22 community and to the school district. Thank you.
23 MAYOR BURD: Thank you. Any other
24 comments from the citizens? Okay.
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1 MR. GILMORE: Tom Gilmore, county
2 resident. One footnote on the project that we
3 just talked about here, my father was almost
4 killed last spring from a truck driver
09:18PM 5 transporting sand from an illegal mine over to his
6 Route 71 location. It is in litigation right now,
7 and this is the same operator that wanted to put a
8 landfill in the city limits. So much for his
9 operations. Thank you.
09:18PM 10 MAYOR BURD: Okay. Any other comments?
11 MR. DUCELL: Good evening. Fred Ducell,
12 Yorkville resident. If we are still considering
13 the land use on this gravel pit, I would like to
14 emphasize that we consider -- or not consider
09:19PM 15 doing this as a dog park only because I have seen
16 too many residents where I'm living that have
17 forgotten to clean up after their pets, and I
18 think it would be a horrendous situation in
19 something like that. Thank you.
09:19PM 20 MAYOR BURD: Any other comments? All
21 right. Then let's move forward to our consent
22 agenda, anyone who would like a motion to amend
23 our consent agenda?
24 MS. SPEARS: I request that we remove
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2 and bring it forward to our next City Council
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4 MAYOR BURD: Second?
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09:19PM 5 MR. WERDERICH : Second.
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8 MAYOR BURD: Anyone against, nay?
9 MR. GOLINSKI: Nay.
09 : 20PM 10 MAYOR BURD: Let's do a roll call.
11 MS. PICKERING: Leslie.
12 MR. LESLIE: Aye.
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13 MS. PICKERING: Munns.
14 MR. MUNNS: Nay.
09:20PM 15 MS. PICKERING: Plocher.
16 MR. PLOCHER: Aye.
17 MS. PICKERING: Spears.
18 MS. SPEARS: Aye.
19 MS. PICKERING: Sutcliff.
09:20PM 20 MS. SUTCLIFF : Aye.
21 MS. PICKERING: Werderich.
22 MR. WERDERICH: Aye.
23 MS. PICKERING: Besco.
24 MR. BESCO: Aye.
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1 MS. PICKERING: Golinski.
2 MR. GOLINSKI: Nay.
3 MAYOR BURD: Okay, the ayes have it. We
4 will remove it from the consent agenda. I would
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8 MR. MUNNS: Second.
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9 MAYOR BURD: Okay. Can we have a roll
09:20PM 10 call vote, please.
11 MS. PICKERING: Leslie.
12 MR. LESLIE: Aye.
13 MS. PICKERING: Munns. j
14 MR. MUNNS: Aye.
09:20PM 15 MS. PICKERING: Plocher. .
16 MR. PLOCHER: Aye.
J 17 MS. PICKERING: Spears.
18 MS. SPEARS: Aye.
19 MS. PICKERING: Sutcliff.
09:20PM 20 MS. SUTCLIFF : Aye.
21 MS. PICKERING: Werderich.
22 MR. WERDERICH: Aye.
23 MS. PICKERING: Besco.
24 MR. BESCO: Aye.
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1 MS. PICKERING: Golinski.
2 MR. GOLINSKI: Aye.
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11 I further certify that I am neither
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board [13] - 23:7, Carol Ill - 14:2 classification [1] - concluded Ill - 59:6 Council [231 - 5:7, 5:8, 1
38:20, 38:22, 40:14, cars [3] - 37:7, 37:16, 3:14 conclusion Ill - 22:2 8:15, 8:24, 19:22,
40:20, 40:22, 41:7, 43:10 clean ill - 56:17 conducted [1] - 32:8 23:8, 27:19, 28:4,
cash [al - 7:23, 25:15,
42:6, 45:20, 49:18, cleaner Ill - 43:24 configuration [3] - 28:9, 35:7, 40:15,
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49:21, 50:6, 53 :9 25:24, 44:18 clearer Ill - 44:13 8:19, 36:16, 45:14 46:1, 51:4, 53:2,
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board's [1] - 42:7 caused Ill - 14:24 clerk [1] - 54:3 confirmed [1] - 21:3 53:3, 53:4, 53:7,
boat Ill - 43:23 center [l] - 11:15 clients [l] - 8:15 conformance [l] - 7:8 53:17, 53:21, 57:2,
body [1] - 42:5 certainly [9] - 12:4, close 151- 3:7,13:16, congested [1] - 20:15 59:5, 60:6
bottom [5] - 32:3, 27:18, 27:19, 28:5, 30:10, 30:17, 51:12 connect [2] - 23:16, counsel [2] - 60:12
32:11, 44:7, 44:10, 43:23, 44:6, 44:19, cluster [1] - 18:6 25:9 Countryside [2] -
44:12 47:21, 47:24 coming [81- 17:10, connected [2] - 5:18, 21:6, 46:18
bottomed [11- 44:2 certificate [1] - 60:17 18:11, 18:13, 24:7, 9:6 county [t] - 56:1
bought [iI - 29:24 24:10, 26:7, 31:5, connection [7] - 4:22, County [3] - 3:11, 5:1,
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14:4 denoted [i1- 46:1 District [8] - 7:22, effectively 11] - 44:11 existing [4] - 5:1,
COUNTY Ill - 60:2 depressed [11- 21:21 7:23, 7:24, 10:23, efficiently [l] - 44:12 15:21, 17:18, 32:19
couple 131 - 24:2, depth 16] - 15:5, 34:6, 25:12, 25:14, 25 :20, efforts Ill - 22:9 expect [11- 13:9 3
24:10, 40:19 35:19, 35:20, 36:3 44:17 either [4] - 7:21, expected [2] - 30:12,
course [zl - 34:8, 48:6 describe 121 - 15:23, disturbing [11- 45:23 26:13, 35:16, 45:5 36:14
court 111 - 9:9 16:8 ditch [11- 35:24 elected [51- 15:8, explain 12] - 10:7, 37:9
cover Ill - 36:10 described [21 - 14:8, document [1] - 54:2 26:20, 29:19, 46:16, extension [31- 17:21,
crazy [11- 35:15 41:9 dog [71- 25:19, 25:24, 46:19 27:24, 39:22
created [21- 14:21, describing 11] - 19:4 39:2, 44:22, 45:2, election [11- 30:3 extent 141 - 11:4,
36:1 design [3] - 18:12, 50:21, 56:15 elements [11- 16:11 11:11, 12:11, 43:10
Creek [isl - 17:8, 37:15, 42:1 dogs ill - 45:4 elevations [11- 7:3 extra [11- 46:22
17:11, 17:15,17:16, desirable ill - 20:7 Donald [11- 14:1 Elgin 13] - 6:20, 7:5,
17:19,17:23, 17:24, desire 14] - 27:19, donated Ill - 46:17 1 13:7 F
18:5, 23:18, 25:11, 27:22, 28:4, 50:23 done [4] - 11:24, 30:6, eliminating [11- 43:16 facilities Ill - 43:15
27:2, 27:21, 37:19, detention [161 - 10:11, 30:17, 36:3 emergency [3] - 6:7, facility [41- 19:2,
39:13, 41:12 14:21, 15:6, 20:2, double Ill - 17:2 6:9, 7:10 42:23, 50:2, 55:13
1 Crimson [23] - 14:11, 20:20, 21:12, 36:15, down [izl - 10:13, emphasize Ill - 56:14 fact [3] - 8:18, 27:23,
15:2,16:4, 17:10, 36:16, 36:18, 36:21, 10:16, 20:3, 26:14, enable [11- 32:7 53:20
17:13, 18:1, 18:3, 41:1, 41:3, 46:11, 26:15, 27:3, 35:6, encourage [11- 55:16 fairly 13] - 13:6, 30:17,
18:8,18:11, 18:13, 46:12, 47:3, 47:18 37:13, 37:22, 40:23, end [4] - 3:7, 23:20, 43:19
18:17, 22:24, 23:13, determine [i] - 11:1 42:16, 50:4 48:18, 51:6 familiar (z1- 8:5,
23:16, 27:3, 27:15, determined ill - 5:8 drainage 111 - 18:22 engagement (iI - 12:24
27:17, 27:23, 28:3, detriment Ill - 34:15 drawing ill - 27:9 31:16 family [161- 16:2,
37:7, 37:14, 38:5 developed [31- 22:8, Drive 131- 15:2, 16:4, engineer [21- 10:19,
16:7, 16:22, 17:5,
Crossings [51- 14:9, 32:17, 47:4 27:3 47:2 17:6, 17:14, 18:10,
17:6,17:17, 21:5, developer 121 - 14:15, drive [3] - 29:2, 37:12, engineering [51- 19:2, 20:6, 27:17, 28:4,
21:11 30:4 37:15 21:2, 21:24,,43:13, 31:3, 33:9, 34:21,
CSR [il - 61:7 developers [11- 24:8 driven [i] - 33:16 1 47:7 35:12, 35:18, 37:12
cul [1] - 16:3 development 11 driver 56:4 engineers 121 - 12:5, fancy [11- 39:22
cul -de -sacs Ill - 16:3 12:24, 14:12, 17:5, driveway 161- 7:17, 21:1 fantastic [11- 55:18
i curb [z] - 37:23, 37:24 19:13, 21:8, 21:9, 18:1, 18:2, 18:7, enhancement [21- far [7] - 14:22, 33:11,
current (61- 6:13, 21:11, 22:20, 24:9, 28:2, 37:18 33:10, 34:7 36:19, 41:1, 43:19,
23:3, 24:4, 27:11, 24:13, 55:20 driveways 161- 18:11, i enhancements [11- 49:4, 49:5
35:19, 47:8 developments [z1- 18:13, 18:15, 20:14, 34:14
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cut 111 - 29:3 24:7, 32:21 27:22, 37:10 enjoy [3] - 40:1, 40:7,
favor 171- 13:20,
cutoffs (11- 37:6 difference 121 - 4:18, driving 12] - 17:13 41:19
cuts 171 - 16:3, 18:1, 20:16 drop 121 - 11:10, 20:3 entertain [4] - 8:23, 20:13, 20:16, 24:14,
24:21, 51:19, 57:6
18:2, 28:2, 37:19, differences Ill - 19:4 drove [11- 33:14 13:15, 51:5, 58:5 feasibility [11- 28:15
37:23, 37,24 different 181- 7:3, dry [11- 21:21 entire [4] - 22:4, 42:1, 29:13,
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12:2, 41:23, 45:14, DU [1] - 60:2 47:4, 47:5 feasible
46:7, 47:19, 47:22, DUCELL Ill - 56:11 entrance 11] - 5:10
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44:23
date [11- 54:18 digest 111- 44:10 25:4, 25:8, 27:6, 21:17
features [1] - 42:15
dated Ill - 20:11 digging 11l - 30:9 28:12, 28:21, 28:23, envisioning [z1- fees 11] - 6:13
de [z1 - 16:3, 36:1 diminished [il - 40:23 29:8, 29:11, 30:7, 41:18, 41:22 feet [171- 11:8, 13:5,
de -water ill - 36:1 directed [i] - 40:10 30:10, 30:23, 31:12, equipment Ill - 41:21 14:20,15:9, 23:3,
dealt 111- 11:11 direction 121 - 38:22, 35:22, 36:13, 38:7, especially Ill - 45:24 I 23:9, 27:4, 30:12,
debate 1 - 51:4 60:21 43:3, 43:6, 46:9, essence Ill - 17:1
I 30:13, 36:3, 36:15,
directly[11- 35:13 47:21, 50:18, 52:1, estimate 36:16, 36:18, 47:3,
deceived [11- 31:4 (z] - 13:3,
decide [z1- 34:23, disappointed ill - 52:4 50;11
45:20 Duggan [i] - 14:14 49:10, 50:13, 50:17
53:5 ; evaluated [1] - 20:23 felt 151- 5:8, 25:23,
decision [1] - 7:24 discharge [4] - 36:14, during Ill - 53:18 evening 141- 3:23, 33:9, 34:8, 41:13
declared Ill - 3:6 36:17, 36:23, 47:5 -� 14:13, 55:9, 56:11 field 12] - 32:6, 35:24
dedicated 3 - 15:15, disclosed [t1- 31:14 j E events Ill - 32:21
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deemed [11 - 12:14 discussed [s1 - 31:13, easement [11- 27:1 evolved ill - 33:14 final 121 - 26:7, 26:8
deep [z1- 35:21, 36:6 37:19, 42:9, 44:16, east 15] - 5:3, 6:8, excavating [11- 28:10 finalization Ill - 30:16
deeper [z1- 15:13, 44:23 14:11, 17:13, 21:6 excavation 1zl - 32:8, finalizing Ill - 48:4
discussion l4] - 36:2
36:9 easterly Ill - 14:8 financed [11 - 34:3
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9:10 26:19, 29:20, 32:8, exciting [i] - 40:22 13:9, 30:8, 30:10
degree 111 - 35:15 discussions (i] 47:16 Excuse [z] - 8:7, 45:8 finishing Ill - 26:6
27:21 exhibit
demand [11- 44:11 edge [11- 10:14 Ill - 38:16 finishings 111 - 30:15
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demands 1 - 33:17 district : 22 52:18, ed g es I ll - 11:12 Exhibit [11- 27:11
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37:17, 41:1, 42:22 58:2, 59:2 horrendous Ill - introduce Ill - 18:16 32:2, 48:17, 49:22,
Fishers [1] - 8:16 Golinski [41- 37:2, 56:18 issue (s] - 19:1, 24:18, 50:3
five [31 - 7:15, 15:18, 49:15, 58:1, 59:1 host [z] - 18:21, 19:2 28:1, 38:3, 40:14, larger [3] - 46:6, 47:7, 4
18:13 goods [i] - 40:4 hour(] - 1:11 51:2 47:9
five -lane li] - 15:18 gorgeous Ill - 31:2 housing [1] - 12:14 Issue ill - 53:12 largest [z] - 42:21,
flag Ill - 52:24 government [1] - 53:6 hydrologist Ill - 36:2 issues [z] - 19:2, 42:24
flexibility [t] - 12:4 grades Ill - 11:5 22:16 last (5] - 5:11, 23:8,
flexible Ill - 33:19 grading [1] - 11:9 item Ill - 54:17 39:2, 50:20, 564
floor Ill - 51:16 GRANT ill - 8:12 idea Itz] - 15:12, Item [21 - 55:7, 57:1 layout [1] - 18:5
followed [1] - 7:12 Grant It] - 8:12 itself [1] - 21:23 leave Ill - 10:17
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footprint [2] - 9:19 56:13 40:16, 44:17, 45:2, itty -bitty [1] - 31:7 led [21 22:16, 24:2
forced Ill - 23:19 great [5] - 20:11, 33:7, 55:17 [eft [3] - 6:1, 22:11,
foregoing [1] - 60:6 34:7, 45:6, 55:18 ideas ill - 33:7 J 23:15
forgotten [t] - 56:17 greater (i] - 44:21 identi fy length Ill - 44:21
Ill - 19:9 JASON [1] - 2:9
- forth [z] - 24:10, 38:10 green It] - 44:8 IDOT [z] - 5:14, 5:20 John [4] - 14:14, LESLIE 171- 2:9, 8:6,
forward [9] - 14:17, grew [i] - 55:17 9:1, 24:6, 57:12,
illegal [1] - 56:5 16:10, 38:19, 39:4
26:10, 34:16, 37:21, growth It] - 44:8 58:7, 58:12
ILLINOIS [2] - 1:5, jointly [1] - 46:14
48:2, 53:8, 55:8, GUERARD [12] - 3:23, Leslie [2] - 57:11,
60:1 JOSEPH [zl - 2:5, 2:8
56:21, 57:2 9:5, 9:15, 9:17, 10:3, Illinois (5] - 1:13, 3:11, June ill - 61:2 58:11
four [1] - 37:7 10:10,11:4, 11:21, 3:21, 9:11, 14:4 less [7] - 16:3, 20:14,
Fox [7] - 28:24, 43:7, 12:10, 12:15, 13:4, imagine [1] - 49:5 K 33:4, 40:23, 41:6,
43:22, 43:23, 44:1, 13:14 imminent [l] - 26:9 42'8
44:3, 44:4 Guerard [3] - 4:2, 9:9, impact (z] - 33:5, keep li] - 36:9 level [2] - 32:10, 36:5
frankly Ill - 33:1 20:12 Kendall [3] - 3:11, 5:1, light It] - 23:24
Fred (il - 56:11 guess [3] - 42:12, 55:21 14:4 lightening Ill - 24:21 important [2] - 19:1,
front lel - 6:22, 16:1, 48:13, 50:12 kidding Ill - 29:3 limiting Ill - 37:6
23:11, 29:4, 33:8, guest [i] - 7:18 35:1 killed [11 - 56:4 limits (1] - 56:8
impressed [1] - 41:24 kind 181 - 10:13, 38:12,
34:4, 34:20, 48:15 impression [1] - 30:21 Lindsa y [i] - 9:11
front- loaded (3] - H 42:15, 45:22, 46:7, line [9] - 5:4, 16:17,
improved Ill - 15:17 47:11, 48:4, 48:20
16:1, 33:8, 34:20 half [4] - 26:5, 40:24, in- between Ill - 11:12 16:19, 16:23, 17:4,
frontage [2] - 23:14, kinds I21 - 49:23, 38:4, 52:19, 52:21,
41:6, 42:9 inaccurate [1] - 49:17 54:20
50'17 Hall (l] - 1:12 ; included [5] - 16:15, 52:23
fronting Ill - 27:17 Harriman [4] - 14:2, 21:5, 21:19, 25:21, linear Ill - 50:13
fruition li] - 50:3 14:7, 55:19 37 :1 L litigation Ill - 56:6
fulfilling Ill - 39:15 hand [3l - 48:20, including It] - 19:20 lake [47] - 21:23, 22:3, live ill - 8:16
full Iz] - 5:24, 6:4 60:19, 61:2 inclusive [1] - 60:7 26:6, 26:15, 26:20, living Ill - 40:3, 56:16
fully (z] - 15:17, 47:4 handed [1] - 27:10 incorporated [1] - 26:22, 27:7, 30:22, LLC (il - 3:9
fully- improved [1] - handler] - 22:22 18:22 30:24, 31:7, 31:24, loaded [3] - 16:1,
15:17 32:1, 32:2, 32:3, 33:8, 34:20
happy Izl - 8:2, 32:5 � increase [z] - 15:5,
function Ill - 44:13 hauling Ill - 30:9 22:14 32:11, 35:20, 38:11, located [21 3:19,
funds [1] - 53:6 38:21, 39:3, 39:6, 14:7
head [i] - 37:17 indicated [31- 36:20,
future [zl - 25:10, heard ill - 39:4 46:13, 47:16 39:10, 39:18, 39:20, locating [z] - 48:4,
54:16 hearing [12] - 3:3, 3:7, infiltrate Ill - 21:22 39:23, 39:24, 40:7, 50:21
3:9, 3:16, 8:9, 12:18, information [2] - 40:21, 41:5, 41:8, location [161 - 21:14,
G 13:16,14:1, 51:6, 54:17, 54:19 42:1, 42:20, 42:21, 21:18, 26:1, 26:14,
garages [21- 6:24, 55:11, 59:4, 60:6 informed [1] - 54:3 43:7, 45:6, 45:7, 28:17, 29:16, 29:18,
7:16 help ill - 33:24 input [11 - 40:17 45:13, 46:6, 46:9, 30:2, 31:19, 31:22,
GARY Ill - 2:3 helps [1] - 28:1 instance (z] - 31:17,
46:14, 46:22, 48:19, 33:6, 34:22, 46:24,
gate Ill - 6:6 hereby [i] - 60:4 34:1 48:21, 49:7, 50:7, 48:5, 48:6, 56:6
generally [i] - 14:7 hereto Ill - 60:17 instead [z] - 18:12, 50:16, 55:12 locations r] - 43:13
generate Ill - 47:13 hereunto [1] - 61:2 36:8
land [ill - 18:18, 22:7, logic [31 - 37:6, 37:10,
generating ill - 33:23 higher Ill - 36:22 intended 121- 36:4, 22:23, 23:4, 24:4, 37:24
GILMORE [3] - 19:11, history (2] - 4:4, 28:7 38:10 25:15, 28:1, 28:13, logical (3] - 17:21,
19:17, 56:1 hold [l] - 39:22 intention [1] - 38:18 44:19, 46:17, 56:13 23:20, 27:24
land -use ill - 18:18 long- windedly [i] -
G]Imore [2] - 19:11, homeowners (1] - interact [i] - 10:8 landfill Ill - 56:8 24:1
56:1 7:22 interest [3] - 33:18,
given [11 - 8:18 homes [5] - 20:6, 33:20, 49:19 lane [�] - 15:18 look Igo] - 7:3, 8:1,
glad Ill - 48:1 31:3, 34:21, 35:12, interested [z] - 42:6, Lane [17] - 14:11, 12:7, 18:5, 22:19,
G LASMA [3] - 52:6, 37:12 60:15 17:10, 18:1, 18:3, 32:12, 38:16, 45:21,
53:19, 54:9 Honor[] -52:15 intergovernmental(] 18:8, 18:11, 18:13, 48:1, 54:17
18:17, 22:24, 23:13, looked Ill - 52:19
Glasma h] - 52:7 honor (1] - 52:6 - 57:1 23:16, 27:15, 27:16, looking is] - 12:2,
GOLINSKI [9] - 2:3, hope [2] - 10:8, 52:12 intersection [s] - 5:17, 27 :18, 28:3, 37:14, 13:1, 48:14, 49:22,
13:19, 37:3, 49:16, hopeful [1] - 47:14 5:19, 5:22, 6:1, 6:51 38:5 49:23, 52:15
50:15, 51:17, 57:9, hoping [21- 26:3, 53:9 6:6, 9:3, 9:6
large ]s] - 13:6, 32:1, looks Ill - 48:17
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lose [1j - 38:2 MEMBER [11- 19:8 39:17,39:19,39:21, 21:13, 35:14, 36:8, one (zzl - 4:2, 4:3,
lost (11- 49:19 Menards [15] - 15:6, 39:23, 39:24, 40:2, 36:14 6:10, 10:22,12:13, 5
loudly [11- 4:1 15:8,15:11, 21:4, 40:4, 40:8, 40:16, needed [4] - 5:9, 14:14, 15:2, 18:3,
lovely [31- 32:4, 34:5, 21:6, 22:8, 22:10, 40:19, 42:5, 42:10, 23:13, 42:3, 47:18 18:7, 22:13, 24:10,
41:19 26:18, 26:19, 29:18, 42:20, 43:3, 43:6,. needs 16] - 35:1, 28:9, 28:13, 29:12,
Lynette 131 - 1:11, 37:1, 46:12, 46:15, 45:10, 45:17, 46:4, 36:21, 36:23, 39:15, 32:12, 32:13, 35:10,
60:3, 61:6 46:20 46:9, 47:19, 47:21, 41:14, 47:8 42:22, 45:5, 48:6,
mention 111 - 39:4 48:13, 48:23, 49:1, negotiation [1] - 31:16 48:16, 51:8
M mentioned [zl - 38:19 49:2, 49:3, 49:7, negotiations [1] - open 141 - 3:3, 3:6,
main [al - 4:18, 6:2, MICHAEL [11- 2:12 49:11, 49:14, 49:16, 46:20 31:1, 34:19
might 181 - 10:23, 50:10,50:15,50:18, net 111 - 19:12 operate (11- 29:17
18:4,24:18 51:12, 51:17, 52:1, operating 25:23, 33:4, 36:10, never 131 - 12:20, 50:2, o eratin Ili - 29:5
maintenance 111 -
43:17, 53:19, 54:16 52:4, 52:6, 53:19, 54:4 operation 111 - 47:12
50:2 54:9, 55:4, 55:9,
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major (11 - 10:22
15:23, 16:8, 41:9, 56:1, 56:11, 57:5, 24:8, 24:9, 53:8 operator 111 - 56:7
manage 1 - 21:7 57:9, 57:12, 57:14,
48:12 news 111 - 5:23 opinion (zl - 20:8,
management 11o1- 57:16, 57:22, 57:24, [
MILLER 111 - 20:23 next 3 ] - 25:3, 28:18, 29:5
18:21, 19:1, 21:13, 58:2, 58:7, 58:8,
21:14, 21:18, 22:16, ,million 11j - 35:4 57:2 opportunities [1j -
58:12, 58:14, 58:16,
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42:23, 43:14, 43:20
58:22, 58:24, 59:2
48:3 mine [1] - 56:5 45:16 opportunity (al -
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minimize 111 - 27:22 NICKELSON (11 - 55:9 21:22, 45:11, 53:10,
map (11- 23:4
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minimized Ill - 18:3 :, :, 10:1, Nickelson 111 - 55:10 55:18
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Minneapolis [11- night [11 14:1 opposed (11- 48:15
market [21- 33:15,
45:12 2 28:18, 6, nobody [11- 39:24 optimize [11- 24:12
33:17 29:39:3, 29:9, 30:0:6,
MARTY [11- 2:6 Minnesota 111 - 45:11 non (11- 44:24 options (zj - 45:5,
30:8, 30:18, 31:1,
master [1j - 22:10 mirror 111 - 24:14 non - active [1] - 44:24 46:5
34:24, 38:9, 41:16,
Mix (1j - 29:17 None 111 - 19:7 order (zj - 3:6, 23:16
material (41- 29:22,
43:1, 43:5, 51:8,
44:8, 47:13, 54:8 mixture [1] - 22:23 north (s) - 4:23, 4:24, Ordinance 121 - 14:5,
51:22, 54:5, 54:22,
materials 111 - 29:16 modifications Ill - 6:3, 8:17,14:10, 14:8
55:1, 56 :24, 57:11,
24:3 16:7 ordinances 111 - 6:15
matter [51- 3:4, 28:7 57:13, 57:15, 57:17,
MOGLE [21 - 40:19, North [11 - 9:11 ordinary [1] - 42:19
52:2, 53:20, 55:12 57:18, 57:19, 57:20,
42:5 northeast [11- 41:13 organic [11- 44:7
matters (1) - 43:17 57:21, 57:23, 58:1,
maximize 111 - 24:12 Montebano 111 - 42:23 58:11, 58:13, 58:15, northerly [41- 15:4, original [1ol - 3:15,
Mayor 111 - 8:12 months 111 - 39:2 58:17, 58:18, 58:19, 15:21, 25:1, 25:6 14:24, 17:9, 20:2,
most 11j - 8:4 northern [1] - 31:20 j 23:1, 25:8, 26:16,
MAYOR [521- 2:2, 3:1 58:20, 58:21, 58:23,
Motion 111 - 51:12 northwest [11- 41:11 42:9, 50:13, 60:17
3:8, 8:7, 8:22, 9:12, 59:1
motion [�1- 3:2 3:6 nose 111 - 49:19 Originally [3] - 19:24,
10:6, 11:2, 11:16 , , , muddy [1j - 44:6
13:16, 51:6, 51:16, noses 111 - 45:22 38:14, 49:20
12:8, 12:12, 13:12, Multifamily [11- 19:17
56:22, 58:5 note 111 - 38:16 originally [41- 21:4,
13:15, 13:18, 13:20, multifamily [3] - 16:5, 22:3, 40:21, 49:21
13:22, 13:24, 19:6, move pl - 11:17, 12: 1, 19:18,19:20
notes [U - 60:9
19:9,19:21, 28:6, 13:24, 29:23, 51:15, Munns (z) - 57:13, nothing [21- 39:17, Oswego [21- 29:7,
35:9, 37:2, 38:8, 51:24, 56:21 58:13 39:19 29:10
moved (31- 13:17, number 17:24, otherwise [11- 54:7
40:13, 45:8, 45:16, MUNNS [1�1- 2:6 7 , [ I
15:3 outcome 111 - 60:15
45:24, 49:15, 51:1, , 58:7 18:14, 26:14, 28:2,
24:23, 25:5, 27:5, I
51:10, 51:13, 51:18, MR [1281 - 2:3, 2:4, 27:8, 27:13, 29:1, 37:23, 37:24, 54:18 outlets 111 - 24:19
J 2:5, 2:6, 2:8, 2:9,
51:21, 51:23, 52:3, 39:21, 39:24, 40:4, outlots 111 - 23:11
52:5, 53:15, 54:3, 2:12, 3:4, 3:23, 8:6, 40:16, 42:10, 51:12, O outside 111 - 49:12
54:15, 54:23, 55:3, 8:12, 9:1, 9:5, 9:15, 55:4, 57:14, 58:8, object 111 - 28:14 overtaken 111 - 32:21
55:5, 55:23, 56:10, 9:17, 10:3, 10:10, own 111 - 42:8
58:14 objection [11- 44:15
56:20, 57:4, 57:6, 11:4, 11:21, 12:10, owner 121 - 5:13,
obviously [3] - 9:6,
57:8, 57:10, 58:3, 12:13, 12:15, 12:21, 28:13
58:9 12:23, 13:4, 13:11, N 29:21, 50:6
owners Izl - 4:3, 5:21
Obvious) z
McHugh 111 - 46:18 13:14, 13:19, 14:13, name [11- 14:13 y [ I - 11.13, oxygen 111 - 44:11
Meadows Isj - 16:19,
16:10,19:11, 19:14, name's 111 - 55:9 33:22
16:22,17:7. 39:13, 19:17, 19:18, 20:23, natural [2] - 32:10, occasioned [11-
41:10, 47:23 24:6, 24:16, 24:23, 32:16 26:24 P
Meadows' [11 - 16:21 25:4, 25:5, 25:8, nay [21- 13:22, 57:8 odd [1] - 46:7 p.m [1] - 1:11
mean 121 - 42:10,
27:5, 27:6, 27:8, Nay [41- 51:22, 57:9, OF (5j - 1:5, 1:6, 1:10, packet [9] - 52:19, 47:24 27:9, 27:13, 27:14, 57:14, 58:2 60:1, 60:2 52:21, 52:22, 53:17,
28:12, 28:21, 28:23, nays 111 - 51:21 office (3j - 33:3, 53:20, 54:1, 54:12,
MEET N G G - 15:18
M [11- 1:6 29:1, 29:8, 29:11, Neal [31- 1:12, 60:3, 34:18, 37:4 54:16, 54:18
30:7, 30:10, 30:23, 61:6 often 111 - 43:21 packets [1] - 54:7
meeting pl - 6:14, 3 on -line - 52:19, PAGE (11- 60:2
31:12, 35:10, 35:19, necessarily (zl - 30:3, ( i
50:20, 52:16, 53:21, z
35:22, 36:7, 36:13, 53:3 52:21, 52:23 page [ ] - 54:1, 54:12
54:2, 57:3, 59:6 One [41- 11:16, 14:9, Page [21 - 24:24, 25:4
meets (11 - 11:24 37:3, 37:9, 38:7, need Isl - 3:2, 8:7,
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pages Ill - 52:20 perspective [21- 30:2, 36:14, 39:22, 28:24, 29:15, 29:22 40:10, 50:23, 50:24,
paint [11- 22:21 16:11, 24:13 43:18, 44:3, 44:10, professional [11- 37:4 54:16, 56:7
paper ill - 54:4 petitioner [5] - 3:9, 47:1, 48:7 profit 11] - 47:14 putting ill - 17:20 6
parallel ill - 15:3 3:18, 3:22, 22:6, ponds [21- 44:13, profiteer 111 - 32:18
parcel (21- 4:6, 12:14 22:17 48:11 profiting 121 - 29:9, Q
park (511- 7:20, 10:11, petitioner's [11- 21:1 popping [11- 35:16 31:9 quality (7) - 18:24,
25:1, 25:5, 25:9, petitioners (11- 14:2 population ill - 41:23 project 1281 - 4:4, 4:14, 20:20, 22:1, 41:4,
25:10, 25:13, 25:17, pets 11] - 56:17 portion [4] - 4:9, 23:6, 5:2, 6:8, 6:20, 6:21, 44:3, 44:4, 49:24
25:19, 25:24, 26:12, PICKERING [17l - 48:17, 59:4 7:1, 7:9, 7:19, 8:18, quantity ill - 22:1
38:17, 38:20, 38:22, 54:5, 57:11, 57:13, position 111- 11:18 9:18,15:11, 15:19, quarry (2] - 28:9, 29:5
38:23, 38:24, 39:3, 57:15, 57:17, 57:19, possible 111- 24:12 15:20, 15:22, 16:7, quarrying ill - 28:15
39:6, 39:7, 39:10, 57:21, 57:23, 58:1, possibly [31- 25:19, 16:8,17:9, 26:17, questions [151- 8:3,
39:12, 39:14, 40:9, 58:11, 58:13, 58:15, 27:6, 35:8 26:18, 30:17, 32:4, 8:8 8 :11, 8:14, 8:23,
40:11, 40:14, 40:20, 58:17, 58:19, 58:21, potential ill - 43:9 33:24, 34:6, 42:23, 8 :24, 9:12, 12:12,
40:22, 41:7, 41:10, 58:23, 59:1 practice [21 - 43:15, 46:15, 47:8, 56:2 13:12,19:7. 19:21,
41:12, 41:21, 42:4, pictures ill - 7:4 43:20 projects [41- 6:9, 19:22, 19:23, 51:11,
42:6, 42:7, 42:16, piecemeal [z] - 22:11, practices [2] - 18:22, 11:22, 22:8, 24:10
52:12
42:17, 44:16, 44:22, 22:20 48:3 properties [11- 33:13 quick [2] - 4:4, 7:7
44:24, 45:2, 45:20, pit [1] - 56:13 Prairie (el - 14:11, property 1241- 3:18, Quite ill - 33:1
48:8, 49:18, 49:21, place [31- 17:10, 16:19,16:21, 16:22, 4:5, 4:6, 4:12, 5:4, quite 121 - 51:2, 51:14
50:4, 50:6, 50:21, 27:21, 60:9 17:7, 39:12, 41:10, 5:19, 5:21, 7:2, 14:6,
56:15 Plan ill - 7:9 47:23 15:5,15:7, 15:22, quote 1z1 48:18,
Ian 153 3:16, 3:17, 48:19
Park [81- 7:21, 7:23,
p 1 prefer [zl - 25:24, 16:17, 16:18, 17:4,
7:24, 10:23, 25:12, 4:16, 4:17, 4:18, 5:7, 44:20 24:5, 28:8, 28:16,
25:14, 25:20, 44 7:14, 9:18,10:12, preferable 111 - 33:8 31:21, 34:5 34:9, R
parking [41- 7:13, 14:17, 14:24, 16:12, preference ill - 21:21 36:22, 37:1 R -3 [61- 3:12, 3:14,
7:15, 7:18, 7:19 16:15, 16:16, 18:19, preferred [4] - 21:16, proposal [41- 7:1, 4:10, 4:12, 12:17
parks 151 - 39:11, 18:20, 19:5, 19:15, 21:17, 25:14, 44:18 10:14, 19:19 raised 11] - 52:24
39:14, 41:13, 41:19, 20:4, 21:19, 22:7, preliminary [3l - 3:17, proposed [71- 4:3, range hl - 13:10
50:1 22:9, 22:10, 22:15, 4:21, 5:7 9:2, 12:20, 21:4, rather pl - 16:1,
Parkway [41- 15:18, 23:1, 23:6, 23:8, prepare [2] - 22:7, 28:13, 28:17, 34:2 16:23, 18:9, 25:24,
21:6, 34:4, 46:18 23:10, 23:18, 23:19, 50:11 proposing [61- 4:23, 29:10, 32:18, 34:14
part 11 o] - 4:5, 4:8, 24:4, 25:8, 25:15, prepared 131 - 23:19, 6:2, 6:5, 6:14, 6:19, rationale [11 - 18:15
6:10, 9:23,14:7, 25:22, 26:4, 26:10, 25:15, 30:1 7 :20 re [1l - 35:7
16:12, 29:11, 38:2, 26:11, 26:16, 27:10, present ill - 9:21 provide [21- 25:18, re- address [11- 35:7
38:6, 48:19 27:15, 32:20, 33:2, PRESENT [21- 2:1, 53:10 reach [11- 32:9
participate (2) - 26:19, 33:15, 37:11, 39:7, 2:11 provided ill - 39:3 reaction [11 - 42:7
29:19 39:10, 40:10, 40:21, presentations [11- provides ill - 55:14 readily ill - 55:15
particular [l] - 15:24 43:11, 48:15, 50:14 8 : 2 public [161 - 3:3, 3:7, Ready Ill - 29:17
parties [21- 60:13, planned [5] - 6:24, presented [21- 8:20, 3:9, 8:9, 8:10, 8:11, real [6] - 3:18, 7:4,
60:14 16:17, 38:15, 39:11, 53:17 13:16,14:1, 31:2, 14:6, 32:3, 34:3,
partners ill - 4:3 46:6 presently ill - 8:20 38:12, 39:14, 50:1, 35:13
pass [21- 6:13, 7:6 planning 12] - 10:17, preserve [l l - 10:18 51:3, 51:6, 53:13, realized ill - 23:12
path ill - 35:5 55:11 pretty 161- 3:24, 8:1, 59:3 really[iil - 5:8, 9:5,
paths ill - 45:15 plans [41 - 33:18, 39:1, 8 :4, 38:12, 48:5, PUD (lo) - 3:13, 3:16, 20:14, 23:15, 23:18,
Paul ill - 45:11 50:8, 50:9 50:19 3:17, 4:12, 11:23, 23:23, 36:20, 39:21,
j pay [1] - 47:12 plant [z] - 29:15, previous 141 - 19:5, 12:3, 14:5, 14:8, 41:1, 47:17, 48:3
pedestrians [11- 29:17 19:14,19:19, 53:2 22:18, 24:13 reason [51- 10:22,
30:20 plat ill - 4:21 price [21- 13:3, 13:9 pull [21- 17:3, 47:22 26:21, 29:11, 43:11,
penetrates ill - 44:9 Plocher [zl - 57:15, 1 prices ill - 13:7 pulling [21- 37:16, I 48:13
people [lol - 13:8, 58:15 primary Ill - 18:18 37:21 reasons [21- 6:11,
37:20, 42:2, 43:9, PLOCHER 18] - 2:5, principal ill - 10:10 Pulte Iil - 46:11 18:4
43:22, 43:23, 45:3, 12:23, 13:11, 24:16, private [31- 5:4, pumped 13] - 32:6, Recently Ill - 45:10
45:9, 45:18, 46:10 35:19, 36:7, 57:16, 39:23, 39:24 35:23, 35:24 recognize ill - 45:8
per [2l - 7:15, 13:3 58:16 problem l3l - 24:19, pumping ill - 32:9 recommendations hl
per-unit i 13:3 Point ill - 14:11 53:1, 54:10
p [ 1 purchased 111 - 28:14 - 18:16
percent (z) - 6:21, point [4] - 23:12, 27:7, proceedings [11 - 60:5 purifying 111 - 43:16 recommended [41-
36:22 36:13, 38:1 PROCEEDINGS [1] - purpose [41 - 28:11, 7:9, 7:11, 7:13, 15:1
perception ill - 44:5 pointed [21- 22:24, 1:10 43:16, 44:14, 47:17 recopying [1] - 54:7
Perhaps [i1- 54:15 25:2 Proceedings Ill - purposes (l1 - 25:5 record lil - 9:8
perhaps [il - 33:2 points 11] - 23:20 60:7 pursuing Ill - 24:8 recreation [2l - 43:21,
permit [il - 29:14 pond [z11- 14:18, process [ill - 4:15, push ill - 24:8 45:19
permitted (11- 3:14 14:22, 15:8, 15:9, 4:21, 5:7, 5:20, 9:24, pushing ill - 38:4 recreational 151 -
personal [11 - 20:8 15:10, 15:12, 20:5, 12:7, 29:16, 30:1, put 1141- 6:6, 13:8, 38:11, 38:15, 39:15,
personally [21 - 44:22, 26:6, 26:17, 28:20, 31:13, 50:5 16:10, 26:13, 29:15, 41:14, 55:13
46:20 29:12, 29:18, 29:19, processing [31- 31:6, 31:21, 35:4, recreationally ill -
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41:8 review [51- 53:10, 16:10,19:14, 19:18, significant [21- 18:14, 30:8, 30:18, 31:1,
reduce Ill - 21 :20 53:13, 53:18, 54:11, 27:9, 27:14, 37:9, 47:14 34:24, 41:16, 43:1,
reduced [31- 29:12, 54:14 38:14, 39:9, 39:19, significantly ill - 43:5, 51:8, 51:22, 7
41:6, 50:15 rezoning [21- 3:12, 39:23, 40:2, 40:8, 48:10 54:22, 55:1, 56:24,
reducing 151 - 20:19, 38:3 42:20, 48:23, 49:2, similar [21- 13:9, 57:18, 58:18
21:13, 28:2, 37:24, Rich [21- 4:1, 9:9 49:7, 49:14, 50:10 45:13 Spears [71 - 28:6,
55:12 Richard [21 - 8:14, 9:1 Schoppe [31- 14:15, simply [11 - 24:14 30:11, 31:24, 47:10,
reduction [21- 18:14, Ridge [4] - 8:17, 15:23, 33:7 sing [1] - 35:11 52:8, 57:17, 58:17
21:3 28:24, 43:7, 44:3 searching ill - 54:20 single [161- 16:2, specially ill - 46:1
referring [i] - 48:24 right -hand [11 - 48:20 Second [61- 13:18, 16:7, 16:22, 17:5, spent [2] - 51:2, 53:6
refinement Ill - 32:24 right -of -way 131- 13:19, 51:17, 57:4, 17:6,17:14, 18:10, spot 11] - 50:22
regard Ill - 46:5 5:13,15:16, 27:3 57:5, 58:8 20:6, 27:17, 28:4, spring Ill - 56:4
regarding h1- 6:15 risk (lj - 22:20 second (51- 14:1, 31:3, 33:9, 34:21, square [11- 13:5
related [2] - 60:12, River [41- 43:23, 15:22, 42:21, 42:24, 35:12, 35:18, 37:12 SS [il - 60:1
60:13 43:24, 44:1, 44:4 51:16 single- family [i6l - St Ill - 45:11
relieve Ill - 36:10 river [ij - 32:13 secondly [2] - 16:4, 16:2,16:7, 16:22, staff [81- 12:4, 14:17,
remaining (2j - 22:12, road 161- 17:3, 23:14, 17:8 17:5,17:6, 17:14, 20:19, 21:2, 22:5,
22:19 23:21, 37:17, 42:17, section [2] - 17:11, 18:10, 20:6, 27:17, 24:3, 31:14, 43:13
remember [21- 12:18, 47:23 17:15 28:4, 31:3, 33:9, standard Ill - 12:1
16:13 roads [31 - 5:4, 30:19, sediment 121 - 43:14, 34:21, 35:12, 35:18, standards Ill - 32:22
remove [31- 55:7, 31:8 43:17 37:12 standing [il - 52:11
56:24, 58:4 roadway [41 - 25:1, see p q - 4:5, 6:18, sit [1j - 40:6 standpoint [21 - 21:17,
removed [21 - 15:11, 25:3, 25:7, 34:2 6:22, 7:21, 10:13, site 13] - 18:23, 18:24, 21:24
28:19 robust Ill - 43:19 27:14, 27:16, 35:14, 21:19 start (z1- 48:4, 48:7
replace [11- 35:11 ROBYN ill - 2:10 1 38:16, 49:3, 52:20 situation 121 - 23:16, STATE Ill - 60:1
REPORT [1] - 1:10 roll [21- 57:10, 58:9 selling Ill - 29:7 56:18 stay [t1- 55:16
Report Ill - 60:6 ROSE [1] - 2:7 senior Ill - 12:14 size [111 - 26:15, step [1] - 31:12
report 47:2 Rose's Ill - 24:14 1 sense [41- 23:14, 29:13, 30:2, 42:9,
p [ I - still [sj - 22:1, 32:1,
reported [11- 60:5 ROTH 121 - 2:12, 3:4 23:20, 23:23, 37:8 42:12, 45:13, 46:9, 38:21, 40:10, 42:11,
reporter Ill - 9:9 Roth Ill - 3:2 serve [21- 6:8, 41:23 47:1, 50:7, 50:15, 56:12
Reporter Ill- 60:4 Route [9] - 3:20, 4:22, served [2] - 16:2, 18:7 55:12 Stone 13j - 28:24,
representing Ill - 5:9, 5:15, 9:7,15:3, service Ill - 23:14 sized [z] - 36:24, 43:7, 44:3
3:22 15:16, 29:1, 56:6 session Ill - 53:18 46:14 stopping Ill - 37:21
reproduced lit- route [1] - 40:12 set [6j - 3:5, 31:20, sizes 1i] - 13:4 I stormwater i131-
60:20 Rt [i] - 14:10 32:22, 34:6, 48:5, silver ill - 48:20 19 :1, 21:4, 21:8,
request [51- 15:5, ruin Ill - 31:8 61:2 slopes 1i1 - 30:16 21:12, 21:14, 21:17,
22:16, 22:17, 25:13, seven [31- 41:10, slowing [1] - 37:21 21:22, 22:16, 22:22,
56:24 S 41:12, 50:4 smaller [3] - 15:12, 24:2, 42:22, 43:16,
requested 12] - 14:16, seven -acre pi - 31:5, 31:24 43:18
sacs i11 - 16:3
22:6 41:10, 41:12, 50:4 soils Ill Street [ll - 8:18
' , t - 21:16
safe [21- 5:24, 43:1
requesting 121 - 3:11, several [5] - 9:14, sold [3l - 20:4, 40:4, street [7] - 5:18, 15:3,
sale [il - 31:10
14:4 14:20, 19:23, 26:2, 41:17
salutary [1] - 25:21 i 16:18,16:24, 17:3, i
26:7
requirements [11- solution Ill - 22:2 37:13, 37:20
sand [12] - 21:23,
' 47:4 Several [l1- 14:23 solve Ill - 28 :1 streets [z1- 11:13,
rerouting Ill - 9:3 28:10, 28:19, :1
31:8, 32:3, 32:11, sewer [21 - 27:2, 31:19 someone (lj - 12:15 11:14
residences ill - 39:11 shape [5j - 46:7, sometime [1] - 12:15 strip 141 - 23:4, 23:22,
resident (31- 54:10,
44:1, 44:7, 44:12, 47:19, 47:22, 47:24 Sometimes Ill 7:2 24:24, 25:6
47:11, 56:5
56:2, 56:12 shapes Ill - 30:16 somewhere [21- 25:3, strongly [1] - 55:16
j ' sand - bottom [3] - sharing residential [51- 16:7, 32:3, 32:11, 44:12 g Ill - 15:7 29:22 stuck [11- 50:3 i
18:24, 23:23, 24:8, sandy 12] - 21:15, shifted Ill - 23:13 sorry [5] - 25:4, 26:18, studied [1] - 44:5
39:9 21:16 shopping [l1- 17:20 30:7, 54:22, 55:7 studies Ill - 28:15
residents [8] - 5:24, Shorthand Ill - 60:4 sort Ill - 44:14 study [21 - 36:2, 44:20
� , sanitary [z1- 27:2,
17:1, 39:16, 40:2, 31:19 shorthand [2] - 60:5, sought 111 - 15:20 subdivision [el - 4:24,
54:11, 54:14, 54:19, satisfy 1l1 - 41:14 60:9 South 131 - 6:20, 7:5, 5:1, 5:5, 8:17, 8:19,
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56:16 save (5j - 10:7, 11:2, show [41- 37:11, 13:7 21:5, 26:9, 41:15
respect [41- 25:11, 11:11 11:18 43:11, 43:13, 48:2 south 121 - 3:19, 7:14 subject [il - 52:8
, , 54:4
25:12, 26:4, 33:19 shown [3] - 9:20, 9:22, southeast (1j - 3:20 subsequent 1�1- 39:1
saved Ill - 6:4
respectively hj - 10:4 southern (�j - 23:6 substantial (3j - 7:8, 1
saving 12j - 10:20,
53:11
10:21 shows ill - 16:16 spacel5j - 11:1, 13:6, 9:7, 55:21
responded Ill - 50:8 SB (l1- 3:9 shrunk [1] - 30:3 14:21, 24:11, 37:4 substantially Ill -
i responding Ill - side 13] - 5:21, 48:20, spaces Ill - 7:15 4:17
scale 1l1 - 31:6
32:17 scales (ij - 1:6 49'9 SPEARS [271 - 2:7, suggesting [21 -
response Ill - 13:23 school [41- 52:18, sight [11- 38:2 9:13, 9:16,10:1. 15:24, 16:4
responsibility [3] - 53:5, 53:9, 55:22 signalized [21- 5:17, 10:5, 13:17, 19:23, suggestion 131-
53:24, 54:11, 60:20 SCHOPPE [1e1 - 5:24 28:7, 28:18, 28:22, 25:20, 32:15, 37:3
retention [11- 35:20 signed Ill - 60:18 29:3, 29:9, 30:6, suit [2l - 60:13, 60:14
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suited [11 - 33:3 townhomes [26] - 36:4 34:6, 35:14 28:11
summary 121 - 7:8, 8:2 4:11, 10:2, 10:4, underl6l - 14:18, Walnut [3] - 8:16, zoning [5] - 3:13,
sunbathe [1l - 42:2 17:18, 17:21, 18:4, 14:19, 30:20, 46:18, 8:18, 23:18 3:14, 4:12, 22:13, 8
sunlight [1] - 44:9 18:6,18:12, 18:16, 60:19, 60:21 wants 121 - 33:21, 40:9 23:4
superior [11- 22:2 19:16, 19:24, 20:1, undesirable [1) - water [19] - 10:16, zonings [1] - 12:1
support [zl - 8:17, 20:9, 20:17, 24:17, 29:21 18:24, 20:20, 21:20,
24:3 24:20, 27:23, 31:6, unilaterally [11 - 53:4 21:24, 22:1, 32:6,
supported [1] - 34:9 32:15, 35:4, 35:12, unique [z] - 42:15, 32:10, 35:23, 36:1,
suppose [1l - 47:16 35:16, 36:11, 52:9, 55:14 36:5, 39:22, 41:4,
supposed 11] - 50:1 52:10, 55:21 Unit [1] - 14:9 42:6, 43:21, 44:2,
surface [zl - 21:20, townhouses 11] - 9:13 unit (a) - 7:5, 7:16, 44:4, 45:4,49:24
43:20 tradeoff [1l - 35:2 13:3,13:4 WD [1] - 3:9
surrounding [3] - traff ic [6] - 9:4, 22:22, United lal - 3:10, 3:12, web [z] - 54:1, 54:12
20:7, 20:21, 31:3 24:19, 24:21, 33:4, 3:13, 14:3 website [1] - 53:16
Sutcliff [3] - 38:8, 37:22 UNITED [1] - 1:5 wells [1] - 20:21
57:19, 58:19 Traffic [�] - 20:15 units [al - 4:19, 13:6, Werderich [21- 57:21,
SUTCLIFF 141 - 2:10, training [1] - 45:4 19:20, 26:14 58:21
38:9, 57:20, 58:20 transcript 12] - 60:8, unusual (1] - 10:13 WERDERICH [12] -
swim (51 - 42:2, 43:1, 60:18 up [211 - 10:16,11:14, 2:4, 39:7, 39:17,
43:5, 43:6, 43:22 transition [3] - 16:5, 16:18,16:23, 17:6, 46:4, 47:19, 48:13,
swimming [41- 41:2, 35:14, 37:5 26:7, 35:16, 42:11, 49:1, 49:3, 49:11,
41:3, 55:13, 55:17 transitional 11] - 35:17 42:23, 48:12, 48:14, 57:5, 57:22, 58:22
swings [1] - 41:21 transport [1] - 47:13 48:16, 48:19, 49:1, west 121 - 17:13, 17:20
system [1l - 18:23 transporting [1l - 56:5 49:19, 51:1, 52:8, whereof [1] - 61:1
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taxes [1] - 33:23 trees [1 3] - 6:3, 10:8, upper [1] - 48:19 widened [1] - 15:17
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type Pl - 28:9, 29:5, 56:12
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111'x; Whereas, public works services provided in our community are an :!:�y'!
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i'II /, Whereas, the support of an understanding and informed citizenry;����►
► -•: is vital to the efficient operation of public works systems and programs :,:,, ►,�
'�''�• such as water, sewers, streets and highways, public buildings, and solid
1!►:;:,.,.: waste collection; and
I11 Whereas, the health, safety and comfort of this community greatly
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depends on these facilities and services; and
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Whereas the quality and effectiveness of these facilities as well�� /III'"
►� as their planning, desi n and construction is vitally dependent upon the
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Whereas the efficiency of the qualified and dedicated personnel r - �'i1! j
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IIP• peoples attitude and understanding of the importance of the work they
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�'l Now, therefore, I, Valerie Burd, Mayor of the United City of •
Yorkville, do hereby proclaim the week of May 20`'' through May 26 as ,��
Il�l'1'V "National Public Works Week" in the United City of Yorkville, and I j'�
call upon all citizens and civic organizations to acquaint themselves with
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the issues involved in providing our public works and to recognize the
contributions which public works officials make every day to our health, ! ; • ��1 1 ► l 1
safety, comfort, and quality of life.
�1111�1 ►4 % OBi I Given under my hand and seal of the United City of Yorkville this!�!�1,;
��1►� ► 22 day of May, 2007.
II Valerie Burd j 1J)
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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
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WHEREAS, the safety and security of the citizens of Yorkville and
surrounding areas are vitally important; and
WHEREAS, a large percentage of our citizens regularly drive or
ride in motor vehicles on our roadways; and
WHEREAS, one in five American motorists (or 19 percent !I
nationally) still fail to regularly wear their safety belts while driving or riding
in a motor vehicles; and
WHEREAS, regular safety belt use is the single most effective way
to protect people and to reduce fatalities in motor vehicle crashes;
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AND WHEREAS, the use of safety belts is supported bythe laws
of Yorkville, Illinois;
NOW, THEREFORE, I, Mayor Valerie Burd do herebyproclaim
and announce May 21, 2007 - June 3, 2007 as "Click It or Ticket" Safety
Belt Enforcement Weeks and urge all citizens of our community and
j surrounding areas to always wear their safety belts when driving or riding
on our roadways, now and in the future.
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Dated this 22 day of May, 2007.
�- Valerie Burd
Mayor
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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
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WHEREAS, the American Cancer Society is an organization
which raises funds to support researchers who are working to find a
cure for cancer, which continues to be a leading cause of death; and
" WHEREAS, nearly 1.5 million new cancer cases are expected
to be diagnosed in 2007; and
WHEREAS, that nearly one -third of those who die of cancer
could be saved through early detection and treatment; and
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r.' I WHEREAS, that more than one -half of all cancers may be
prevented through healthy lifestyle choices, particularly avoiding
tobacco and choosing a low -fat, high -fiber diet; and
WHEREAS, the mission of the American Cancer Society is to
raise funds to support direct services to local cancer patients and to I
provide prevention and early detection education programs in Kendall iI
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County schools and businesses; and
WHEREAS, the American Cancer Society utilizes Volunteers !
to coordinate and participate in their fundraising efforts so that 70% of
the money raised goes directly to support research, and
provide services to cancer victims and their families; and ! 'j
WHEREAS, the United City of Yorkville supports the
American Cancer Society Lower Fox Valley "Relay For Life" in its
j efforts to raise funds to fight cancer, especially through this annual
"Relay for Life,"
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NOW THEREFORE, I, Valerie Burd, Mayor of The United
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City of Yorkville do hereby proclaim June l s` and June 2 °d , 2007, I
"Relay For Life" Days in THE UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE.
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Dated this 22 day of May, 2007, A.D.
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Valerie Burd, Mayor
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