City Council Minutes 2006 06-13-06 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE. ]KENDALL COUNTY. ILLINOIS.
HELD IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
800 GAME FARM ROAD ON
TUESDAY. JUNE 13, 2006.
Mayor Prochaska called the meeting to order at 7:04 P.M and led the Council in the Pledge of
Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Clerk Milschewski called the roll.
Ward I James Present
Leslie Present
Ward II Burd Present
Wolfer Present
Ward III Bock Present
Munns Absent
Ward IV Besco Present
Spears Present
Also present: City Clerk Milschewski, City Treasurer Powell, City Attorney Wyeth, Interim City
Administrator Crois, Assistant City Administrator Olson, Police Chief Martin, Director of Public
Works Dhuse, Director of Park & Recreation Mogel, Community Development Director Miller,
Finance Director Mika and Public Relations Manager Spies.
OUORUM
A quorum was established.
INTRODUCTION OF GUESTS
Mayor Prochaska asked the staff and guests to introduce themselves. He welcomed the guests
and asked them to enter their names on the attendance sheet provided.
AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA
1 Mayor Prochaska asked that the swearing in of the police officers be moved up from the Mayor's
Report to the Presentation section of the agenda.
COMMITTEE MEETING DATES
Public Works Committee 7:00 P.M., Monday, July 3, 2006
City of Yorkville Conference Room
800 Game Farm Road
Economic Development Committee 7:00 P.M., Thursday, June 29, 2006
City of Yorkville Conference Room
800 Game Farm Road
Administration Committee 6:30 p.m., Thursday, July 6, 2006
City of Yorkville Conference Room
800 Game Farm Road
Public Safety Committee 6:30 p.m., Thursday, July 13, 2006
City of Yorkville Conference Room
800 Game Farm Road
Ad Hoc Technology Committee 6:30 P.M., Tuesday, July 11, 2006
City of Yorkville Conference Room
800 Game Farm Road
PRESENTATIONS
Girl Scout Silver Award
Mayor Prochaska reported that over the last several years, several area Boys Scouts have come
before the City Council who have attained the rank of Eagle Scout. Mayor Prochaska introduced
Kelsey Sedgewick, Elisabeth Scheffrahn and Tiffany Nawa to the City Council and reported that
these three young women have gone through the levels of the Girl Scouts and attained one of the
highest ranks, the Girls Scout Silver Award. He presented each of the girls with a Certificate of
Recognition for their accomplishment.
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Swearing -in Full -time Police Officers
Mayor Prochaska, Chief Martin and Police Commissioner Johnson swore in Timothy J. Kolowski
and Ryan S. Goldsmith as Full-time Police Officers. Mayor Prochaska welcomed them to the
United City of Yorkville.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Meadowbrook Public Hearing
Mayor Prochaska reported that there would not be a public hearing for Meadowbrook as was
incorrectly noticed in the newspaper, this hearing was already held on May 30, 2006.
Kleinwatcher
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to go into public hearing for the purpose of discussing
Herb and Pam Kleinwatcher and Old Second Bank Trust 8051, petitioners, request to annex to the
United City of Yorkville and rezone from Kendall County A -I Agricultural to United City of
Yorkville B -3 Service Business District and R -2 One- Family Residence District and for hearing
as to the Annexation Agreement of the petitioner. The real property consists of approximately
9.81 acres located on Route 47 south of legion Road and north of Ament Road, Kendall
Township, Kendall County, Illinois. So moved by Alderman Besco; seconded by Alderman
Burd.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye
Please see attached Report of Proceedings taken before Christine Vitosh, C.S.R. from Depo Court
Reporting Service for the transcription of this portion of the public hearing
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to close the public hearing. So moved by Alderman Burd;
seconded by Alderman Besco.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye
1_ MPI #6 South Yorkville, LLC
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to go into public hearing for the purpose of discussing
MPI 46 South Yorkville, LLC, petitioner, request to annex to the United City of Yorkville and
rezone from Kendall County A -1 Agricultural to United City of Yorkville Planned Unit
Development containing R -2 One - Family Residence District, R -2 Duplex Two - Family Residence
District, R -3 General Residence District, R-4 General Residence District and B -2 General
Business District. The real property consists of approximately 916.44 acres east of Immanuel
Road, north and south of Ament Road, west of Route 47 and north and south of Walker Road,
Kendall Township, Kendall County, Illinois. So moved by Alderman Besco; seconded by
Alderman James.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye
Please see attached Report of Proceedings taken before Christine Vitosh, C.S.R. from Depo Court
Reporting Service for the transcription of this portion of the public hearing
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to close the public hearing. So moved by Alderman Burd;
seconded by Alderman Bock.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye
CITIZEN COMMENTS
�) None.
CONSENT AGENDA
1. Police Reports for April 2006 (PS 2006 -20)
2. Purchase of New Squads — approve as presented (PS 2006 -24)
3. Building Permit Report for April 2006 (EDC 2006 -13)
4. Resolution 2006 -42 — Approving the Final Plat of Subdivision for Autumn Creek Unit 2
- authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute (PC 2006 -13)
5. Resolution 2006 -43 — Approving the Revised Preliminary Plan for Bailey Meadows -
authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute (PC 2005 -60)
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6. Resolution 2006 -44 — Approving the Preliminary Plan for the Chally Farm - authorize
the Mayor and City Clerk to execute (PC 2005 -33)
7. Resolution 2006 -45 — Approving the Final Plat of Subdivision for Grande Reserve Unit
18 - authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute (PC 2006 -17)
8. Resolution 2006 -46 — Approving the Final Plat of Subdivision for Grande Reserve Unit
19 - authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute (PC 2006 -18)
9. Resolution 2006 -47 — Approving the Final Plat of Subdivision for Grande Reserve Unit
20 - authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute (PC 2006 -19)
10. Passenger Van Purchase through State Purchase Program — approve as presented (PKBD
2006 -04)
11. Prairie Meadows Park — Oslad Grant — approve as presented and authorize the Mayor
and City Clerk to execute OSLAD ?LWCFproject application as presented (PKBD 2006-
05)
12. Nicor Gas Contract for Grande Reserve — Kennedy Road Improvements — approve
payment to Nicor in an amount not to exceed $226,165.38 and authorize Mayor to
execute (PW2006 -114)
13. Ordinance 2006 -45 — Amending City Code Title 6 — Traffic, Chapter 2 — Parking
Regulations Regarding Parking of Non - motorized Vehicles - authorize the Mayor and
City Clerk to execute (PS 2006 -21)
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to approve the Consent Agenda as presented. So moved
by Alderman Spears; seconded by Alderman Burd.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -6 Nays -0
Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye
* * * Alderman Leslie left the Council Chamber and was absent for the roll call vote.
PLANNING COMMISSIONMONING BOARD OF APPEAL
No report.
MINUTES FOR APPROVAL
A motion was made by Alderman James to approve the minutes of the City Council meeting of
April 25, 2006 and the Committee of the Whole meeting of April 18, 2006; seconded by
Alderman Wolfer.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
BILLS FOR APPROVAL
A motion was made by Alderman James to approve the paying of the bills listed on the Detailed
Board Report dated June 2, 2006 totaling the following amounts: checks in the amount of
$927,442.50 (vendors — FY 05/06); $775,685.96 (vendors — FY 06/07); 181,343.70 (payroll
period ending 5/27/06); for a total of $1,884,472.16; seconded by Alderman Besco.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays-0
James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye
REPORTS
MAYOR'S REPORT
Appointment of Budget Officer
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to accept the appointment of Susan Mika. as Budget
Officer to the United City of Yorkville. So moved by Alderman Wolfer; seconded by Alderman
Bock.
Mayor Prochaska and Alderman Burd welcomed Ms. Mika to the United City of Yorkville and
Alderman Burd stated that she felt she would be a wonderful asset to the City.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye
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Ordinance 2006 -46 Approving Downtown Yorkville
Tax Increment Financing Redevelopment Project and Plan
Downtown Yorkville Tax Increment Financing Redevelopment Project Area
Mayor Prochaska noted that there was a series of ordinances pertaining to this project. He
pointed out that the City Council received a copy of page 16 from the original redevelopment
plan which has verbiage stating that "land assemblage by the City may not be by eminent domain,
except for cases of life safety conditions or issues ". He stated that the information that the City
Council received was copied from an older version of the plan which did not have this language.
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to approve an ordinance approving the Downtown
Yorkville Tax Increment Financing Redevelopment Project Area, as presented, subject to legal
review. So moved by Alderman Besco; seconded by Alderman Bock.
Mayor Prochaska commented that this is a good first step towards redeveloping the downtown
and for bringing life and prosperity back into the area that is the heart and soul of the City.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -6 Nays -0 Abstains -1
Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd- abstain, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye
Ordinance 2006 -47 Designating Downtown Yorkville
Tax Increment Financing Redevelopment Project and Plan
Downtown Yorkville Tax Increment Financing Redevelopment Project Area
Pursuant to the Tax increment Allocation Redevelopment Act
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to approve an ordinance designating the Downtown
Yorkville Tax Increment Financing Redevelopment Project Area, pursuant to the Tax Increment
Allocation Redevelopment Act, as presented, subject to legal review. So moved by Alderman
Besco; seconded by Alderman Wolfer.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -6 Nays -0 Abstains -1
Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd - abstain, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye
- Ordinance 200648 Adopting Tax Increment Financing for the
Downtown Yorkville Tax Increment Financing Redevelopment
Project and Plan
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to approve an ordinance adopting Tax Increment
Financing for the Downtown Yorkville Tax Increment Financing Redevelopment Project Plan
and Area, as presented, subject to legal review. So moved by Alderman Besco; seconded by
Alderman Bock.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -6 Nays -0 Abstains -1
James -aye, Burd - abstain, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye
CITY COUNCIL REPORT
No report.
ATTORNEY'S REPORT
No report.
CITY CLERK'S REPORT
No report.
CITY TREASURER'S REPORT
No report.
CITY ADMINISTATOR'S REPORT
Administrator Crois reported that as Attorney John Phillipchuck alluded to in the public hearing,
there are ongoing meetings regarding a regional solution for infrastructure for south of the United
City of Yorkville. He assured the City Council that the SSA being discussed is a `pay down"
version not a traditional SSA.
FINANCE DIRECTOR'S REPORT
No report.
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS REPORT
No report.
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CHIEF OF POLICE'S REPORT
Camp 911
Chief Martin reported that the first "Camp 911" was held earlier in the day and thirteen fourth
and fifth graders attended. Representatives from the Police Department, Bristol - Kendall Fire
Department and EMS teams were present to instruct the children on safety issues. Chief Martin
stated that it was a success and he anticipated greater attendance next year. He thanked Alderman
Wolfer for bringing the idea to the City. Alderman Wolfer thanked the Parks and Police
Departments for their efforts in getting this camp underway. He stated that representatives from
Yorkville came out to Morris to see how a camp is run and then adapted it to Yorkville. City
Clerk Milschewski commented that her son, Thomas, attended and enjoyed the camp very much.
Special Olympics Torch Run
Chief Martin reported that there would be a Special Olympics Torch Run tomorrow morning,
June 14, 2006.
DIRECTOR OF PARKS & RECREATION'S REPORT
Sweetness Run
Director Mogle reported that the first annual Sweetness Run in Yorkville would be held this
Saturday, June 17, 2006. The event, benefiting the Walter Payton Foundation, will begin at the
Yorkville High School parking lot at 8:00 a.m. Registration begins at 5:30 a.m. There will be
both an 8K and 5K event. Director Mogle indicated that the volunteer meeting for the run was
well attended. Mayor Prochaska thanked Director Mogle and the Parks & Recreation staff for
working with the volunteers and all the entities involved in bringing this event in Yorkville.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR'S REPORT
No report.
PUBLIC RELATIONS MANAGER'S REPORT
Newsletter
Mrs. Spies encouraged members of the City Council to submit articles to the City's newsletter.
Pizza Donation to Sweetness Run
She also reported that Taylor Street Pizza would be donating funds from pizza sales Thursday,
June 15, 2006 from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. to the Sweetness Run. She encouraged everyone to
come out and buy pizza that night.
City Website
Mrs. Spies reported that the City's website is coming along and should be up by the end of July.
COMMUNITY & LIAISON REPORT
No report.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE REPORT
No report.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE REPORT
Ordinance 2006 -49 Hudson Lakes
Authorizing the Execution of the Annexation Agreement
(PC 2005 -53)
A motion was made by Alderman Burd to approve an ordinance authorizing the execution of an
Annexation Agreement with Kendall Creek Development, LLC regarding area commonly
referred to as Hudson Lakes Subdivision, as presented, and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to
execute all documents upon final legal and staff review; seconded by Alderman Bock.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye
Ordinance 2006 -50 Hudson Lakes - Annexing
(PC 2005 -53)
A motion was made by Alderman Burd to approve an ordinance annexing area commonly
referred to as Hudson Lakes Subdivision in furtherance of an Annexation Agreement with
Kendall Creek Development, LLC, as presented, and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to
execute all documents upon final legal review; seconded by Alderman Bock.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye
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Ordinance 2006 -51 Hudson Lakes - Rezoning
(PC 2005 -53)
A motion was made by Alderman Burd to approve an ordinance rezoning certain property
commonly referred to as Hudson Lakes Subdivision in furtherance of an Annexation Agreement
with Kendall Creek Development, LLC, as presented, and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to
execute all documents upon final legal review; seconded by Alderman Besco.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
_ Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye
Ordinance 2006 -52 New Life Church
Authorizing the Execution of the Annexation Agreement
(PC 2006 -25)
A motion was made by Alderman Burd to approve an ordinance authorizing the execution of an
Annexation Agreement with New Life Church of Yorkville, Developer, and the record owners of
land commonly referred to as the New Life Church Property, as presented, and authorize the
Mayor and City Clerk to execute all documents upon final legal and staff review; seconded by
Alderman James.
Mayor Prochaska noted that the City Council received an updated agreement at their desk. He
stated additional information recognizing the recapture of the watermain was added. The new
language has been reviewed by the attorneys. Attorney Wyeth added that information about
residential fees was also added.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye
Ordinance 2006 -53 New Life Church - Annexing
(PC 2006 -25)
A motion was made by Alderman Burd to approve an ordinance annexing area commonly
referred to at the New Life Church Property in furtherance of an Annexation Agreement with the
New Life Church of Yorkville, Developer, and the record owners of land, as presented, and
authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute all documents upon final legal review; seconded
by Alderman Besco.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Leslie -aye, Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye
Ordinance 2006 -54 New Life Church - Rezoning
(PC 2006 -25)
A motion was made by Alderman Burd to approve an ordinance rezoning certain property
commonly referred to at the New Life Church Property in furtherance of an Annexation
Agreement with the New Life Church of Yorkville, Developer, and the record owners of land, as
presented, and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute all documents upon final legal
review; seconded by Alderman Leslie.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Wolfer -aye, James -aye, Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT
No report.
ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE REPORT
No report.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Mayor Prochaska reminded everyone that the Citizens Police Academy Alumni would be holding
their annual pork chop dinner at Town Square Park on June 23, 2006. The event will be in
conjunction with "Music Under the Stars ".
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to into Executive Session for the purpose of
o Litigation, when an action against, affecting or on behalf of the particular public body has
been filed and is pending before a court or administrative tribunal, or when the public
body finds that an action is probable or imminent.
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He asked that City Clerk Milschewski, Administrator Crois and City Attorney Wyeth be included
in the session. He indicated that no action would be taken after the session.
So moved by Alderman Besco; seconded by Alderman Bock.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Burd -aye, Spears -aye, Bock -aye, Besco -aye, Leslie -aye, James -aye, Munns -aye
The City Council entered into Executive Session at 8:14 p.m.
The City Council returned to Regular Session at 8:50 pm.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Prochaska entertained a motion to adjourn. So moved by Alderman Leslie; seconded by
Alderman Burd.
Motion approved by a viva voce vote.
Meeting adjourned at 8:50 P.M.
Minutes submitted by:
Jacquelyn Milschewski,
City Clerk City of Yorkville, Illinois
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1 P R E S E N T:
2 MR. ARTHUR F. PROCHASKA, Mayor;
3 MR. PAUL JAMES, Alderman;
4 MR. JASON LESLIE, Alderman;
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5 MS. VALERIE BURD, Alderman;
6 MR. DEAN WOLFER, Alderman;
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7 MR. JAMES BOCK, Alderman;
8 MR. JOSEPH BESCO, Alderman;
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9 MS. ROSE ANN SPEARS, Alderman;
10 MR. JOHN CROIS;
11 MR. WILLIAM POWELL;
12 MR. TRAVIS MILLER;
13 MS. JACQUELYN MILSCHEWSKI, City Clerk.
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15 A P P E A R A N C E S:
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MR. JOHN JUSTIN WYETH, Counsel,
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City of Yorkville, Illinois.
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1 (Pledge of Allegiance)
2 MAYOR PROCHASKA: We have two public
3 hearings. Now, I understand there was a notice
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4 of another public hearing, and while it was in
5 the paper, there is nothing on the agenda to talk
6 about the Meadowbrook development at all. There
7 is no hearing to be had on that development this
8 evening.
9 With that I would entertain a
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10 motion to go into public hearing for the purpose
11 of discussing the Herb and Pam Kleinwachter and
12 Old Second National Bank Trust 8051, petitioners,
13 request to annex to the United City of Yorkville
14 and rezone from Kendall County A -1 Agricultural
15 to United City of Yorkville, B -3 Service Business
16 District and R -2 One- Family Residence District,
17 and for hearing as to the annexation agreement of
18 petitioner.
19 The real property consists of
20 approximately 9.81 acres located on Route 47
21 south of Legion Road and north of Ament Road,
22 Kendall Township, Kendall County, Illinois.
23 MR. BESCO: So moved.
24 MS. BURD: Second.
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1 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Moved and
2 seconded. May I have roll call, please?
3 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Besco.
{ 4 MR. BESCO: Aye.
5 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Leslie.
6 MR. LESLIE: Aye.
7 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Wolfer.
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8 MR. WOLFER: Aye.
9 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: James.
10 MR. JAMES: Aye.
11 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Burd.
12 MS. BURD: Aye.
13 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Spears.
14 MS. SPEARS: Aye.
15 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Bock.
16 MR. BOCK: Aye.
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17 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Motion is carried.
18 We are now in public hearing. Is there someone
19 here representing the petitioner?
20 WHEREUPON:
21 KELLY KRAMER,
22 testified before the Yorkville City Council as
23 follows:
24 MS. KRAMER: Hi. My name is Kelly
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1 Kramer. I am an attorney licensed to practice
2 law in the State of Illinois and I am here
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3 tonight representing Herb and Pam Kleinwachter.
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4 As the mayor indicated, they
5 are seeking to annex approximately 9.8 acres off
6 of Route -- on the west side of Route 47 south of
7 Legion Road, and they are looking to do -- we are
8 here tonight for the public hearing on the
9 annexation agreement and looking to develop this
10 site as kind of a flex mixed use zoning at this
11 point in time, and that is reflected in the
12 annexation agreement.
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13 At this juncture, the
14 petitioners have plans to construct a day care
15 center on the north side of the property and
16 another commercial building on the south side of
17 the street running through.
18 They are also requesting to
19 annex and zone the back half of the portion to
20 R -2 single- family residential in the event that
21 if it's not developed in commercial in a certain
22 period of time, so we're here tonight to answer
23 any questions you may have regarding the day care
24 issue and also regarding the annexation agreement
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2 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Is there anyone in
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5 public hearing?
6 (No response)
7 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Hearing none, is
8 there anyone on the Council that.has any
9 questions on this?
10 (No response)
11 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Just one question
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15 zoning the entire thing B -3 with an R -2 overlay?
16 MS. KRAMER: Correct. So I
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18 MAYOR PROCHASKA: As opposed to
19 having two zoning --
20 MS. KRAMER: Two zoning
21 classifications right now. It would be B -3
22 Service Business District.
23 MAYOR PROCHASKA: And we are all
24 understanding that is what it is.
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1 MR. LESLIE: This is flex?
2 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Right.
3 MR. LESLIE: What are the limits?
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4 MS. KRAMER:. The back portion of it,
5 they would have to come back and conform with the
6 drawing here before you tonight, 12,000 square
7 foot lots, and the back one I think is designated
8 as lot number eight is over one acre, and the
9 rationale behind that being over one acre is j
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10 there is an existing residence on the property
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12 MR. LESLIE: Wouldn't they
13 re-petition for R -2 if they wanted it? We've
14 only heard this, either the first or the second
15 time.
16 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Actually it's been
17 done on several occasions in the city. It was
18 done up in Yorkville Business Park, it's been
19 done in a couple places where at this point the
20 determination of how that area is developed has
21 not been set, and while we do show a line of
22 business along there in our Comprehensive Plan,
23 how far back it goes we don't know, and being
24 there is an existing residence -- the only
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1 question I have also to you, Miss Attorney, or
2 Mr. Attorney, is as they maintain the existing
3 residence, the B -3 zoning, is that required to
4 be --
5 MR. WYETH: There has to be some
6 time lines. I can't remember what we were
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8 MS. KRAMER: I believe seven years.
9 MR. WYETH: And that's the trigger
10 for the back -up zoning, so it starts to be free, j
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12 grandfather into a use and it will be the trigger
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15 work commercially, there is a point in time where
16 it can go commercial.
17 MS. KRAMER: And it also somewhat
18 depends on how the area west of this particular
19 property and south side develops.
20 You want to be a good neighbor
21 to the development coming from the southern
22 boundary of Yorkville, so if it ends up, you
23 know, there is large estate subdivisions
24 buffering it, they may want a residential
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4 A -1 to B -3, then can that residence still be
5 used?
6 MAYOR PROCHASKA: That's what the
7 attorney said, was what right now would happen as
8 part of the annexation agreement would then be as
9 the existing residence, and it could be a
10 residence as long as it was maintained as
11 residence.
12 We actually have areas in the
13 city of Yorkville that many, many years ago were
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14 zoned business zoning that are still residences.
15 MR. JAMES: Part of this is
16 agricultural, comes in as business or
17 residential. It doesn't change from farmland
18 until it's not farmed.
19 MAYOR PROCHASKA: That is not
20 something that has not already occurred.
21 MS. BURD: I am wondering, is this
22 one of those -- are they thinking that in the
23 future when they do go residential that they will
24 be selling off these lots to individual home
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1 builders or will they do it themselves?
2 MS. KRAMER: I don't know -- they
3 haven't determined that. Currently
4 Mrs. Kleinwachter does operate a day care center
5 and so I don't know if the would most likely
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7 could have the option of selling individual lots,
8 but I highly doubt they are going to build
9 themselves. You can correct me if I am wrong.
10 MR. KLEINWACHTER: We have no plans
11 of using the back at all. You know, ten years
12 down the road I don't know what we are going to
13 do with the property.
14 MS. BURD: Because I would like to
15 throw out an idea to the Council. I have been
16 talking to some of the local contractors,
17 business people, you know, people who do drywall,
18 people who do trades, that kind of thing, and
19 apparently a lot of the new developers who are
20 coming in are not using local people, and I was
21 wondering if we would consider writing some of
22 this into our annexation agreements that maybe
23 they will use ten percent local business people
24 or something like that, just tossing it out as a
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1 thought because it seems sad that we have all
2 this development coming in and our local business
3 people really aren't reaping a major benefit,
4 so --
1 5 MR. BESCO: I've actually heard that
6 from quite a few contractors locally.
7 MAYOR PROCHASKA: I think it depends
8 who it is because I do know some:have been used.
9 MR. BESCO: Right.
10 MS. BURD: I don't know, just --
11 MS. SPEARS: It's a good idea.
12 MS. BURD: Especially when they want
13 an SSA, I think that would be a thought, just for
14 discussion.
15 MAYOR PROCHASKA: How many lots are
16 we looking at?
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17 MS. KRAMER: You would have seven
18 lots total counting the existing structure. Six
19 buildable new lots.
20 MR. WOLFER: I have a question for
21 Travis if I could. Since this is a B -2, what
22 other businesses could they put in should they
23 decide to change and not put in a day care?
24 MR. MILLER: It's cumulative. It
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1 builds. Each business zone builds on another.
2 B -2 and a B -1 business district.
3 MR. WOLFER: Could you give me an
4 example?
5 MR. MILLER: Well, B -3 allows for
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6 retail, big box retail, such as Wal -Mart. They
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7 don't have the space for it here, but that type
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8 of intensity in terms of commercial use.
9 More realistic here I think is
10 what they are showing in this development plan
11 that is attached to the annexation agreement, and
12 they are asking for a special use for a day care,
13 so one of the commercial outlots would be a day
14 care and then the other I believe is an
15 office -type use, but at this point the annexation
16 agreement doesn't limit the uses below B -3.
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17 MS. KRAMER: It actually explicitly
18 authorizes all the B -3. Due to the site
19 constraints and the acreage we are dealing with,
20 you are probably going to see a low intense, like
21 Travis said, office, maybe a service -type
22 building.
23 MR. WOLFER: There is no guarantee?
24 MS. KRAMER: Pardon me?
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1 MR. WOLFER: With the general B -3,
2 there would be no guarantee?
3 MS. KRAMER: Well, strictly what's
4 in your ordinance. You know, if there was a gas
5 station, you'd have to come in and ask for a
6 special use, so...
7 MAYOR PROCHASKA: So again, that's
8 for the entire 9.8 acres --
9 MS. KRAMER: Correct.
10 MAYOR PROCHASKA: -- so that could
11 be reassembled in any --
12 MS. KRAMER: Any fashion.
13 MAYOR PROCHASKA: -- format to --
14 MS. KRAMER:- Right.
15 MAYOR PROCHASKA: -- allow for that
16 property. I think there is some things that we
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17 can give some thought to. I think we will go
18 forward with the annexation agreement. I'm sure
19 the attorneys can talk.
20 Anyone else?
21 (No response)
22 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Hearing no further
23 discussion, I would entertain a motion to close
24 this public hearing.
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1 MS. BURD: So moved.
2 MR. BESCO: Second.
3 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Moved and
4 seconded. May I have roll call, please?
5 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Leslie.
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6 MR. LESLIE: Aye.
7 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Wolfer.
8 MR. WOLFER: Aye.
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10 MR. JAMES: Aye.
11 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Burd.
12 MS. BURD: Aye.
13 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Spears.
14 MS. SPEARS: Aye.
15 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Bock.
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16 MR. BOCK: Aye.
17 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Besco.
18 MR. BESCO: Aye.
19 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Motion is carried.
20 MS. KRAMER: Thank you.
21 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Now I would
22 entertain a motion to go into public hearing for
23 the purpose of discussing the MPI Number 6 South
24 Yorkville, LLC, petitioner, request to annex to
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1 the United City of Yorkville and rezone from
2 Kendall County A -1 Agricultural to United City of
3 Yorkville Planned Unit Development containing R -2
4 One- Family Residence District, R -2 Duplex
5 Two - Family Residence District, R -3 General
6 Residence District, R -4 General Residence
7 District, and B -2 General Business District.
8 The real property consists of
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9 approximately 916.44 acres east of Immanuel Road, j
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10 north and south of Ament Road, west of Route 47,
11 and north and south of Walker Road, Kendall
12 Township, Kendall County, Illinois.
13 MR. BOCK: So moved.
14 MR. BESCO: Second.
15 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Moved and
16 seconded. May I have roll call, please?
17 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Leslie.
18 MR. LESLIE: Aye.
19 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Wolfer.
20 MR. WOLFER: Aye.
21 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: James.
22 MR. JAMES: Aye.
23 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Burd.
24 MS. BURD: Aye.
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1 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Spears.
2 MS. SPEARS: Aye.
3 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Bock.
4 MR. BOCK: Aye.
5 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Besco.
6 MR. BESCO: Aye.
7 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Motion is carried.
8 We are now in public hearing. j
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9 WHEREUPON:
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10 JOHN PHILIPCHUCK,
11 testified before the Yorkville City Council as
12 follows:
13 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: Good evening. My
14 name is John Philipchuck. I am a partner in the
15 law firm of Dommermuth, Brestal, Cobine & West
16 with offices at 123 Water Street in Naperville,
17 Illinois, here this evening representing the
18 petitioners, MPI.
19 The Council has seen the
20 development application for some time now as you
21 know, and the hearing this evening is on the
22 annexation agreement.
23 We have met with the Staff, we
24 do have some comments, but we still have some
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1 things that we need to work out, but because it's
2 been a while since we have been i-n front of you
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3 and we may have some residents here who are not
4 familiar, we'd like to introduce John Martin, our
5 land planner from JEN Land Design to do just a
6 very brief overview of some of the provisions
7 that we are suggesting that be entered into the
8 annexation agreement as part of our plan that's
9 before you here this evening, and I think I have
10 one correction on the agenda.
11 I think we are requesting B -3
12 zoning rather than B -2 for the commercial
13 components. So, John?
14 WHEREUPON:
15 JOHN MARTIN,
16 testified before the Yorkville City Council as
17 follows:
18 MR. MARTIN: Mr. Mayor, is it okay
19 if I address the board? Is it going to mean --
20 if you would like, I'll stay here.
21 MAYOR PROCHASKA: It's fine if you
22 can take the mic with you.
23 MR. MARTIN: Let me get started
24 while Wendy looks for the laser pointer here.
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1 Again, it is a 916 -acre parcel, all the way from
2 just north of Ament down to Caton Farm Road at
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3 the southern end of the development, and then we
4 have Walker Road running through the south half,
5 this is Route 47, Immanuel Road on the west, and
6 then Ament Road on the north, with a small parcel
7 north of Ament Road.
8 A 916 -acre development, this in
9 your Comprehensive Plan is broken into two areas, J
10 Mid -Aux Sable Creek running through the
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11 development in this area separates the northern
12 section, the northern area, which falls in your
13 suburban category, suburban area, in the
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14 Comprehensive Plan. South of the creek falls in
15 the transitional area in your comprehensive plan.
16 This plan pretty much follows
17 the guideline, and actually we are coming in with
18 less than the density allowed in the
19 Comprehensive Plan.
20 The northern areas comprised
21 of -- the darker yellow shows the 12,000 square
22 foot lot area, the intermediate yellow here is an
23 11,000 square foot. These are basically 85 foot
24 wide lots, 80 and 75 in the 11, and then the
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1 lighter shade of yellow, represents 10,000 square
2 foot lot minimums with 70 and 75 foot wide lots.
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3 The open space shown in the
4 green, the dark green area along 47, there's been
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5 an extensive amount of work with the school
6 district and the park district on developing what
7 we now have as a 67 and a half acre potential
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8 high school site with the ability on the property
9 to the west to expand that site into
10 approximately a 70 -acre site, which is what the
11 high school is looking for out in this area on
12 the south end of town.
13 In addition to that, we have
14 numerous park sites, a trail system, throughout
15 the project, both in the suburban and the
16 transitional area, there is the Mid -Aux Sable
' 17 Creek trail, which we are showing also on the
18 portion, our plan, that that trail follows.
19 Also per the Comprehensive Plan
20 we are showing a small neighborhood commercial at
21 the extension of Wheeler Road, which is shown in
22 your Comprehensive Plan, from 47 to Immanuel,
23 13 -acre commercial here, 23 acres of commercial
24 again shown in your Comprehensive Plan, and the
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1 large 45 -acre commercial at Caton Farm and
2 Route 47 for a total of 81 acres of commercial.
3 The overall density of the
4 development is at 2.1 units per acre overall. If
5 you look at the combination of the transition and
6 suburban area in your Comprehensive Plan, it
7 would allow up to two and a half units per acre,
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8 if you average out the transition and the
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9 suburban area.
10 So we are less -- We are asking
11 for less density than what would be allowed in
12 your Comprehensive Plan.
13 Providing a five -acre fire j
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15 Immanuel. The open space system is over 300 --
16 almost 328 acres of permanent open space.
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17 That doesn't include all of the
18 open spaces that's going to be associated with
19 some of the attached product, which is in the
20 transitional area south of Walker. That
21 represents about 36 acres of this site in the
22 various shades of green, park sites, three acre
23 here, ten acre here, 13 -acre expandable park
24 site.
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1 We have worked with, as you
2 know, the Park District with these plans in
3 developing these park sites so they are
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4 expandable. Another five -acre park site down
5 here that's expandable to the west.
6 So, again, we've gone through
7 and worked with the Park District. I think we
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8 now have provided the school site that the school
9 is looking for and, again, our overall density is
10 2.1 versus the Comprehensive Plan at two and a
11 half units per acre, which would be allowed under
12 your Comprehensive Plan.
13 I think with that, that's a
14 brief overview, and obviously we can talk about
15 more of the specifics in terms of the various
16 neighborhoods that have been developed on this
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18 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: I would next like
19 to introduce Mr. Bill Shiner. Bill is our
20 commercial development advisor. He wants to
21 touch about the types of user that we are
22 anticipating for the commercial components of the
23 plan.
24 As you know, the Council is
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1 very concerned about trying to get the corporate
2 limits extended to the intersection of Caton Farm
3 Road and Route 47, and as a result of some
4 further land acquisitions, MPI was able to get
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6 you will.
7 WHEREUPON:
8 BILL SHINER,
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10 follows:
11 MR. SHINER: I don't know if I got
12 sworn in or not.
13 MAYOR PROCHASKA: No, that's fine.
14 MR. SHINER: Okay. My name is Bill
15 Shiner, President and CEO of the Shiner Group.
16 We are consultants in a minor way, but developers
17 throughout the Chicago area.
18 We have developed over 65
19 projects in and around Chicago. We have
20 developed some projects in Indiana, Ohio, and
21 California as well.
22 I have worked with the
23 ownership for years on various land sites,
24 including as an advisor on this site in terms of
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1 the future use.
2 I'm going to start first with
3 the 45 -acre piece along Caton Farm. There is a
4 lot of development along 47 to the north, as
5 everyone knows. A lot of the retailers that we
6 all know are there today. And so the question
7 ultimately is is there room for a second store
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8 for a lot of those users, is it a potential
9 lifestyle center.
10 I am not going to sit here and
11 crystal ball a few years from now and tell you
12 what exactly will be here.
13 But Caton Farm fits in really
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14 almost -- A lot of people talk about good real
15 estate, so let's take a step back, and what's
16 good retail real estate.
17 What good retail real estate
18 today really is what fits in the networks of the
19 various retailers who are expanding.
20 Today the tenants that are
21 expanding are Home Depot, Kohl's, Wal -Mart,
22 Target, you know, some of the boxes.
23 On a 45 -acre site, what you are
24 talking about there is approximately about a
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1 million nine square feet of land. That's going
2 to equate to about a 400,000- square foot center,
3 plus various outlots, so you are going to have a
4 major community center ultimately that's going to
5 go there.
6 And what Caton Farm does is
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7 really fits into the network for those tenants
8 that are in to the east and also,to the north,
9 and a second store in our opinion for a lot of
10 these tenants is going to be the likelihood when
11 the residential comes. No one is going to come
12 here before the residential is there.
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14 comparable in terms of this type of market, the
15 comparable that -- and if you have time, and it's
16 quite a long drive, but I went out there today
17 just to look at it again.
18 I was up in Crystal Lake and
19 Lake in the Hills, and if you look at the
20 development there and the housing and you look at
21 the markets, the distance between Crystal Lake
22 and Lake in the Hills is almost identical in
23 terms of the stores locating -- and you have two
24 markets almost three and a half, four miles
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1 apart.
2 And what happened there is
3 Crystal Lake developed first along Route 14, and
4 the players that I named all located there, and
5 then Lake in the Hills had enormous growth to the
6 south, they had high schools come up, they had
7 schools come up, the grammar schools, the middle
8 schools were built, the residential filled
9 around, and then the retail has followed that,
10 and that is a very similar situation that you see
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12 So when you look at the overall
13 development -- and I'm not sure about the
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14 ultimate plans for the other corners, but I think
15 Caton Farm at some point in time is going to
16 become a regional corner.
17 An example of a regional
18 corner, Schaumburg and Barrington, where you have
19 Target, which is in Schaumburg, where you have
20 Target Kohl's, Lowe's, Home Depot, Jewel, and
21 Dominick's all on basically one corner.
22 I think Caton Farm ultimately
23 might be that based on where the tenants are
24 sitting today.
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1 As you go along Walker, I think
2 also as the residential comes in that might be
3 more of a food store anchor -type shopping center,
4 whether it's Safeway or Albertson's, and what
5 their plans are, obviously they are located --
6 jewel is certainly up to the north and whether
7 they open a second store again depends on the
8 density.
9 And I'm not here to tell you
10 who is going to go there; I don't want to make or
11 feel that that's a commitment, but I'm trying to
12 give a sense based on the size.
13 23 acres, you're talking about
14 almost a million square feet of land; you're
15 talking about a 200 to 220,000 foot center based
16 on parking and landscaping requirements.
17 So overall on those two centers
18 you are talking about almost 700,000 feet of
19 retail that needs to be absorbed long -term, and
20 for 700,000 feet, you're talking about almost 210
21 million dollars in sales, so think about the
22 disposable income and the housing that you need
23 to support that kind of retail.
24 As you go further down the
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1 road -- and I think Mr. Philipchuck really
2 described it well -- in his local convenient -type
3 retail.
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4 I think you will see a local
5 restaurant. I think you will see a
6 convenient -type operation. I think the
7 residences don't -- And everyone here is an 7
8 expert at shopping.
9 When you want to go to Home
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10 Depot and you're doing something in your
11 basement, clearly you are going to go to a
12 certain location.
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13 But if you want to get
14 something for your home or something quick, like
15 a drugstore or something like that, you are not
16 going to want to go to the busiest intersection
17 you can find. You are going to want to find
18 something that's convenient.
19 You are going to have a high
20 school across the street, you are going to have a
21 lot of parks, you are going to have a lot of
22 activity, so it's really going to be localized
23 convenient -type retail, office, medical office,
24 you can suspect some medical uses would go in
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1 there.
2 Again, that site is
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4 MR. MARTIN: 13.
5 MR. SHINER: 13. It's 13 acres.
6 Again, typical absorption, at a 20 percent
7 absorption, you are looking at approximately 120
8 or 130,000 feet of retail, convenience, office,
9 restaurants, and those kind of uses.
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11 generation, from the 45 -acre site, you talk about
12 almost having 400,000 foot of retail plus
13 outlots.
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14 Today the average center of
15 that size does between 200 and $250 a square foot
16 in sales, so you are talking about almost a
17 hundred million dollars in sales, or about nine
18 percent I believe is your sales tax here, so you
19 are looking about a million dollars in sales
20 taxes that would be generated in today's dollars
21 if it was built, and our belief is that it's
22 years away from being built because the
23 residential development is not there.
24 The 23 acres, again, about
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1 220,000 square foot center at the same average
2 sales per square foot, you are looking at almost
3 about 400 or 500,000 -- 400 to $500,000 of sales
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4 tax revenue to the community.
5 And the 23 acres probably
6 wouldn't equate out to 200 to 250 a foot.
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10 of -- some non -sales tax generating uses.
11 So there you are probably
12 looking at somewhere about 150 to $200,000 in
13 sales taxes that are being generated.
14 Property taxes, you will have
15 to excuse me, I thought your percentage was about
16 nine percent to the city, is that about right?
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17 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Total community?
18 MR. SHINER: Per dollar -- to the
19 community. Well, it's about 16 percent to the
20 schools and about nine percent to the
21 community.
22 MAYOR PROCHASKA: More around seven,
23 eight.
24 MR. CROIS: Seven and a half.
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1 MR. SHINER: I couldn't exactly tell
2 from some of the copies of the tax bills. I am a
3 little confused. I wanted to get that number
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4 right.
5 But, again, a 400,000 square
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6 foot center, you are looking at almost a million
7 two, in tax dollars. That would equate to the
8 school district of approximately seven to
9 $800,000 a year to the school district just from
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10 that one center.
11 At seven or eight percent, you
12 know, you're looking at probably about 80 or
13 $90,000 a year just to the city's coffers. That
14 doesn't include the police, the county and all
15 those other things, just kind of isolating the
16 school district.
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18 equations in terms of dollars being generated for
19 the park district -- I'm sorry, the school
20 district and the other center, about half of the
21 23 acre site and a little less than that out of
22 the smaller site.
23 So overall in today's dollars,
24 it is a tremendous economic benefit to the
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1 community, it is a corner that we think will be a
2 regional corner, and we believe years down the
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3 road -- and as we say, one of the key things in
4 any -- you don't -- You rarely, if ever, see that
5 residential follows retail. It is pretty clear
6 that retail follows the residential, and the
7 disposable income that is Yorkville, and a big
8 part of that is the school districts, the parks,
9 and the amenities, and I think this project
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10 really puts together everything that a community
11 needs.
12 So with that, I'll be happy to
13 answer any questions if you have any.
14 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Do you have
15 anybody else to present?
16 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: We have Tom Small
17 from Pasquinelli Development, Moser Enterprises
18 here, if you have questions for them; otherwise
19 that was our presentation for this evening
20 here.
21 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Okay. Then I
22 would like to open the floor to anyone in the
23 audience that would like to ask a question, make
24 a comment on this development. Is there anyone
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1 in the audience that would like to come forward?
2 (No response)
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3 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Seeing none then,
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5 from the Council. Yes, Alderman Spears.
6 MS. SPEARS: I would just like to
7 share my vision for the city of Yorkville in the
8 future.
9 I would like to see
10 developments such as this to provide community
11 centers. We need community centers in Yorkville,
12 we have one basically, and I'd like to see them
13 throughout the town that would be for the public.
14 Not necessarily the clubhouses, but a regular
15 community center that all the residents that you
16 are going to be bringing in, as well as residents
17 from the other side of town or other
18 developments, would be able to enjoy, a very nice
19 community center.
20 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: As you know, Rose,
21 you've adopted and you have looked for capital
22 and administrative fees with the new development
23 that comes in.
24 Certainly you could earmark
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1 some of those funds for some of those kinds of
2 facilities.
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3 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Actually, Alderman
4 Spears, we actually have had that discussion with
5 developers.
6 I remember when MPI went
7 through, it was kind of further along when we
8 started that discussion, but there was some
9 discussion about maybe looking at some buildings
10 being public, and I think that's something that
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11 we can address a little bit more as we go forward
12 to see how that might work.
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13 There might be actually an
14 advantage to the developer and the city.
15 MS. SPEARS: Exactly. And we can
16 have connecting developments possibly contribute
17 so much to it.
18 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: You raise a good
19 point. And if you're going to have a fire
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21 MS. SPEARS: Right.
22 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: -- maybe it's
23 designed such that there is a large room, a
24 community room. I mean, you should get more than
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1 one use out of some of these public buildings.
2 It costs a lot of money to put
3 these buildings under roof. If we're going to
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4 design them, let's design them to be
5 multi - functional. I think that might work.
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6 MS. SPEARS: Exactly.
7 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Anyone else?
8 Alderman James.
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10 design on Route 47, I'd like to see a limit to
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12 there, if there is some way to use frontage roads
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13 in the design, but I don't want to end up seeing
14 this development, you know, go 200 feet and you
15 hit another light and repeat, hit another light
16 and repeat.
17 In the design, if there is some
18 way to limit the amount that you're going to be
19 putting on there and try to use frontage roads as
20 access.
21 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: As you know, we
22 are being subjected to the requirements of IDOT
23 and so we have to work with IDOT as to where
24 those locations can be, and they have their
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1 minimum separation standards for those signals,
2 and, then again, you have to meet warrants in
3 order to be able to have the signals, and the key
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4 then is to have the interconnect so that when you
5 have the lighter traffic that need to access, you
6 can have more through traffic move on those
7 roadways, so that's a point well taken.
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8 MR. WOLFER: After you sat down and
9 said I'm going to, I would like to see it in the
10 annexation, but when this subdivision is
11 completed that access roads are going to be
12 exiting from school, I would like to see a light
13 there. That is really going to be crowded.
14 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: So wherever the
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16 Route 47 --
17 MR. WOLFER: I was told that it
18 would not access out to 47.
19 MAYOR PROCHASKA: The full access
20 was going to be down and out Wheeler, is what we
21 were told, so --
22 MR. WOLFER: At that point we have
23 enough traffic going.
24 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Well, I think you
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5 warrant the signalization, so I think -- and
6 correct me if I am wrong -- but you are saying
7 that once the school is there we want to make
8 sure --
9 MR. WOLFER: Correct. Maybe on a
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11 it's automatically asked for.
12 MAYOR PROCHASKA: The study will be
13 done as part of the project, but I think the idea
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15 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: There is a traffic
16 study that's been done and we are in the process
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18 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Anyone else?
19 Alderman Besco.
20 MR. BESCO: One question. As long
21 as I have been on the Council, I have never
22 remembered seeing an R -4 come through. What is
23 the --
24 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Actually we do
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1 have R -4. R -4 is basically like condos or
2 apartments.
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4 for that?
5 MAYOR PROCHASKA: It's eight units
6 per acre.
7 MR. BESCO: Eight per acre. Yeah, I
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9 MAYOR PROCHASKA: And they are
10 required to have a single covered parking space
11 for each unit. I don't know if it says enclosed
12 or covered, but it has to be more than just a
13 parking lot space.
14 MR. BESCO: Right.
15 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Yes, ma'am.
16 MS. SURD: Is this an SSA? Are you
17 requesting an SSA?
18 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: We do have a
19 provision in there. As you know, we are looking
20 in the area of a 30 million dollar infrastructure
21 program for the provisions for water and sanitary
22 sewer services in the southern area, so that is,
23 or it may still be needed as part of the
24 solution, Valerie.
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1 We are continuing to work with
2 staff, and so we haven't ironed out all those
3 details, but just so you know, that is the number
4 out there for the wells, treatment, storage,
r 5 sanitary sewers, pump stations, and things of
6 that nature.
7 MS. BURD: Since this is such a
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11 our local business people.
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13 changed the policy, having something written into
14 the annexation agreement that would provide some
15 benefit to our local business people?
16 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: I think you are on
17 the right track; I don't know if I would put it
18 and require it in the annexation agreement.
19 Having some kind of a trade
20 fair where the developers could meet some of the
21 local tradesmen and understand their capacities
22 and things.
23 When you talk about some of
24 these larger developments, can your local
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1 contractor handle the volume?
{ 2 MS. BURD: Sure.
3 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: Is their
4 workmanship up to the same standards as the
5 people, you know, they are currently using.
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6 Pricing is always a factor.
7 Obviously you can't say you can only use our
8 folks here and then they price it way above where
9 the market is at.
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11 factors we'd have to look at, but certainly an
12 opportunity to meet some of those local
13 businessmen would be a good idea because maybe
14 many of them, given that opportunity, would be
15 able to secure some contracts.
16 Writing it into the agreement
17 and requiring it, I think we should give that
18 some more thought.
19 MS. BURD: It's something I would
20 like to think about, but I know that some of them
21 are working with other developers in other
22 communities, but when they come to Yorkville, for
23 some reason they are not opening it up to them.
24 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: I am not aware of
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1 that, but we can look at it.
2 MS. BURD: And especially mentioned
3 the Grande Reserve area, which was a huge --
4 which is a huge development, so since this is
5 something similar, I would like to see that not
6 happen again because I do think, you know, this
7 should be something -- this should be a boon to
8 our local business people who are providing all
9 name products and doing quality work, and I'm
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10 sure a lot of them would be more than up to
11 providing these kind of services.
12 MR. LESLIE: I like the idea. I
13 don't know how you could mandate that in terms
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15 MAYOR PROCHASKA: If they agree to
16 it, they agree to it. The question is that --
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17 MS. BURD: How they can work it out.
18 MR. LESLIE: In terms of annexation,
19 if they flip it to commercial, a commercial lot
20 to develop my store, I'm going to have the
21 latitude in determining who I am going to use as
22 the general contractor.
23 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Well, it does --
24 maybe or maybe not. That's where the limit would
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1 be. It's going to be interesting having it.
2 MR. LESLIE: It would be real
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4 MAYOR PROCHASKA: One of the things
5 that I'd like to see with a development this
6 large is -- and I know we -- I think you guys
7 tried it at Grande Reserve, and I don't know how
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8 well it works, I know even the discussions with
9 like Home Builders Association is often looking
10 for developments larger where there can be
11 actually areas or pods or sections or whatever
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12 you want to call it where lots could be sold off
13 on a single basis or in a smaller quantity so
14 that the local custom and semi - custom builders,
15 the local builders, have an opportunity to
16 partake.
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17 I know -- I know you guys did
18 something, I don't know exactly how it worked out
19 at the last one, but, again, this was actually
20 something I am remembering from a discussion with
21 people from the American -- from the Home
22 Builders Association, is the idea of actually
23 looking for a development large enough where a
24 section or some sections could be set aside where
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1 the lots could be sold on an individual basis so
2 that you actually have the ability for the
3 smaller builders and the people in the area to
4 partake in this development, so that is something
5 I actually would like to see.
6 MS. BURD: That would help.
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7 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Because those --
8 and then again, those are the folks that are
9 going to hire the local tradesperson.
10 MS. BURD: Right. That would help
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11 solve the problem.
12 MAYOR PROCHASKA: So that would be
13 another way to approach that. Anyone else?
14 (No Response)
15 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Hearing no further
16 discussion, I would entertain a motion to close
17 the public hearing.
18 MS. BURD: So moved.
19 MR. BOCK: Second.
20 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Moved and
21 seconded. May I have roll call, please?
22 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Wolfer.
23 MR. WOLFER: Aye.
24 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: James.
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1 MR. JAMES: Aye.
2 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Burd.
3 MS. BURD: Aye.
4 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Spears.
5 MS. SPEARS: Aye.
6 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Bock.
7 MR. BOCK: Aye.
8 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Bosco.
9 MR. BESCO: Aye.
10 MS. MILSCHEWSKI: Leslie.
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11 MR. LESLIE: Aye.
12 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Motion is carried.
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