Park Board Packet 2007 09-27-07 YORKVILLE PARKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT
Administration and Recreation Office
201 W. Hydraulic St Yorkville, IL 60560 630-553-4357
Park Board Agenda
Thursday, September 27, 2007
7:00 p.m. - Park Board Meeting
Administration and Recreation Office
Call to Order:
Roll Call : Chris Rollins, Ken Koch, Van Truman, Debbie Horaz, Kelly
Sedgwick, Vickie Coveny
Introduction of Guests, City Officials and Staff:
Director of Parks and Recreation - David Mogle
Superintendent of Recreation - Sue Swithin
Superintendent of Parks - Scott Sleezer
Park Planner - Laura Haake
Public Comment:
Presentations :
Approval of Minutes:
Minutes - Regular Park Board Meeting - August 30, 2007
Minutes - Regular Park Board Meeting - September 13, 2007
Bills Review:
Cash Analysis*
Bill List*
Old Business :
Hometown Days Recap
School-Park Agreement Update
Community Survey Update
New Business :
Reports :
Director Report —No Report
Parks Report - No Report
Recreation Report — No Report
Additional Business :
Future Meeting Schedule & Agenda Items
Executive Session :
For the appointment, employment, compensation, discipline,
performance, or dismissal of specific employees of the public body
or legal counsel for the public body, including hearing testimony
on a complaint lodged against an employee of the public body or
against legal counsel for the public body to determine its validity,
For the purchase or lease of real property for the use of the public
body.
Adjournment:
Next meeting : October 11 , 2007
*Items needing Board approval or recommendation
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Yorkville Parks & Recreation Department
Thursday, August 30, 2007
7:00 pm
Old Post Office Building
The meeting was called to order by Cluis Rollins at 7: 10 pm..
Present: Cluis Rollins Vickie Coveny
Ken Roch Dave Mogle, Director of Parks
Debbie Horaz Scott Sleezer, Superintendent of Parks
Van Truman Laura Haake, Park Developer
Kelly Sedgwiek (arrived at 7:20)
Bills Review — There was brief discussion on some items in the Bill List and the Detailed
Expense and Revenue report. Ken Koch moved to approve the Bill List as presented.
Van Truman seconded the motion. All moved to pass with a roll call vote. Rollins —
Yes, Koch — Yes, I-Ioraz — Yes, Truman — Yes, Coveny — Yes, The motion carried,
Fields of Westhaven — There was discussion on the placement of the school site and
park site in this development. The 5 acre site in this development is adjacent to the 5 acre
site in Bailey Meadows. There was discussion on having the developer put in a
Rollerblade rink feature instead of the road. There was discussion on the placement of
the school building on the school site. It is far away for the park site, so it makes it
difficult for the park to use the space jointly with the school. The Board would like to try
to work with the school to share space for the playground, or if it is not going to be
shared with the school, to put in a better road access,
Prairie Meadows (Riemenschneider) Park Construction Bid Review and Approval —
L..I.Dodd was the low bidder. The total cost for all the base bid work, and all alternates
excluding landscaping, soil amendments, mulch, and seeding totals $268,237. 60. The
total grant was for $442, 133.00. The equipment will cost approximately $ 103, 162.
Schoppe's fees are approximately $49,69.3 .00. The in-house cost for the baseball field is
$ 10,000.00 and a $ 10,000.00 contingency leaves approximately $269,278.00 for
constzuction costs. Van Truman moved to approve the recommendation to staff to accept
the bid from L..I. Dodd in the amount of $268,237.60. Ken Koch and Debbie Horaz
simultaneously seconded the motion. All were in favor. The motion carried.
Kelly Sedgwick moved to adjourn the meeting, Vickie Coveny seconded the motion. All
were in favor. The motion carried.
The meeting was adjourned at 8: 15 pm.
Minutes submitted by Laura Leppert.
United City of Yorkville
Yorkville Parks and Recreation Department Board Meeting
Administration Office - Riverfront Building , 201 W . Hydraulic
Street, Yorkville, IL 60560
Thursday, September 13 , 2007, 7pm
Call to Order:
The meeting was called to order at 7 : 05 by Chris Rollins ,
Roll Call : Chris Rollins, Ken Koch, Van Truman, Debbie Horaz, and Kelly
Sedgwick
Introduction of Guests, City Officials and Staff:
No guests
Director of Parks and Recreation - David Mogle
Park Designer - Laura Haake
Superintendent of Recreation - Sue Swithin
Public Comment:
None
Presentations :
None
Approval of Minutes :
Minutes - Regular Park Board Meeting - August 9, 2007
Dave Mogle had a change on page 7 under the directors report first
sentence should have the verbiage "executive session" to be added at
the end of the sentence after "previous".
On page eight last sentence under the Future Meeting Schedule &.
Agenda Items it should say "A forest preserve meeting will be held on
August 15th, and the forest preserve board will discuss and clarify the
issues .
Debbie Horaz reported a change on page 6 four sentences from the
bottom the verbiage " not" should be added after "that people would . "
Minutes - Heartland Circle Town Meeting - July 30, 2007
Laura Haake would like her title changed to Park Designer instead of
Park Developer
Chris Rollins made the motion to approve the minutes of the Park
Board Meeting of August 9th , 2007 and the Heartland Town Meeting of
July 30th, 2007 with amendments made and Sedgwick made the
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motion and Koch seconded the motion . The motion was unanimously
approved by voice vote .
Bills Review:
Cash Analysis and Bill List
Van Truman reported concerns on the Revenue & Expense Report. He
questioned what's indicated in the budget, as carry over balances but
aren 't in the year to date or current period numbers . First page he
reported shows a 105k as a carry over. He wanted to know if that is a
GEO transaction to move that into the current fiscal year or do we
expect to have that at the end of the fiscal year. David Mogle noted
that that carry over is usual done at the time of the audit. So he sees
it at the end of the year. He said he would double check on that.
Truman wanted to know how the capital budget is typically funded .
Mogle stated it is through land cash .
Truman brought up a question on the last page of the report regarding
the concessions . It shows expenses were 115K and we were 105% of
budget and we spent 16,427K . He wants to know is that for purchase
items . Sue Swithin said that all said and done about 4 or 5K were for
start up costs . She said she'd look into where she pulled the capital
out of. She said that she will have a full report for the board after the
end of October as soon as they pull the concessions down she said she
would be able to get a more accurate answer and the board can go
through it in more detail .
Van Truman made the motion to approve the cash analysis and Bills
List Horaz seconded the motion . The motion was approved by roll call :
Rollins-Yes ; Truman -Yes ; Sedgwick-Yes ; Koch -Yes Horaz-Yes .
Old Business•
Park Assignments
Chris Rollins stated the staff created a grouping of parks so they could
update park assignments and delegate to new members . He explains
that part of their assignments to the grouping of parks in which they
are assigned is to pay particular attention and make note of
maintenance issues, parking , litter problems and such and report back
to the board .
Those with seniority of who had been on the board the longest got to
choose what groupings they wanted first. The Following suggested
park grouping goes as follows :
1 . Grande Reserve - Bristol Bay goes to Vickie Convey
2 . Prairie Meadows - Autumn Creek - Heartland goes to Chris
Rollins
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3 . Downtown goes to Debbie Horaz
4 . Fox Hills - Kimball Homes - Caledonia goes to Kelly Sedgwick
5 , Fox Road - Rivers Edge - Hoover goes to Van Truman
6 . Country Club Hills - Raintree - Sunflower goes to Ken Koch
Fields of Westhaven
David Mogle followed up with Superintendent; Dr. Thomas Engler by
sending him a letter that summarized the points made by the park
board and noted he would try to contact him .
Rollins felt there should be more consideration given to this matter
and there should be no reason we should end up with a joint school
park side with no more thought given to the park consideration for
Evarts to save funds . In Rollins opinion we have some work to do .
Rollins thought he could pass the letter on to the Board President. He
felt if it is going to gets the recognition it needs it really needs to be
brought to the Board President to get on their board agenda .
Kelly Sedgwick asks if we knew what kind of school was going up there
and Mogle reported it was going to be an elementary school however it
may never be built. Sedgwick then noted that the board really
shouldn 't be getting too uptight about this until we know if it's going
in .
Mogle reported that they're not interested in the boarder they are
interested in how to get the most use out of the land . Rollins
explained that what we were looking at is we 'd be willing to maintain
the whole sight as long as they position the parking lot centrally and
that's a huge capital expense they wouldn 't have to bear to build a
separate parking lot. He feels that is not a bad trade off. Also with the
intergovernmental agreement he noted that we'd be able to make use
of the gymnasium and other things in the building and that would be
facilitated by having a parking lot and that would work for both . He
feels if we can 't reach a compromise then we're back at square one
and then we'll need a street and a frontage road and we'll need to
separate off our space from theirs .
New Business :
AT&T Easement - Bridge Park
Chris Rollins cautioned about the easement, he stated that we would
give the utility department 20x30 feet. The document that we are
signing doesn 't state the actual part of property and the size that we
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are giving them . Rollin 's reported it states this information on the
following page on " exhibit A" however he felt it should be in the legally
described in the actual grant statement because the way it is now
could be misconstrued and the second document could be lost.
Mogle said he'd talk to Joe Roth about it. He noted that this hasn 't
been approved yet.
Van Truman noted a concern over the fact that they could put a cell
tower in the space . With discussion the board feels that there should
be height restrictions on what is put on the land . Truman said that
they don 't want a tall structure in the park. Mogle said they haven 't
indicated the dimensions of the box yet all we know that they needed
a 20X30 foot space . Rollins wanted to know if we can add decorative
plantings around it so we're not just looking at a green box . Mogle said
that he would ask about landscaping it and even if they said no we
could landscape around the 20X30 foot space . Rollins wanted Mogle to
ask the City Attorney to see if we couldn 't get this moved to another
place due to their concerns and the concern that they can run electric
service under the property.
Christmas Tree Sale Request
David Mogle explained there were two private individuals wanting to
sell Christmas trees . Mogle explained that it would create a couple of
problems in one it could be challenged in why we would select one
vendor over the other. The other thing is we might be able to find a
non-far- profit organization to do the same thing .
Chris Rollins thought that there was some suspension of the City's
vending requirements for Christmas tree sellers . He noted that there is
no specific policy of selling trees however he doesn 't know if the policy
we have now for vendors doesn 't mention the nature of products they
can sell .
Sue Swithin explained that they were having special Christmas events
held in the park one Friday and Saturday that will go on in that park
and she feels it will interfere with the events .
Van Truman brought up a point that if we're going to object this
request there has to be some logic to it. We ought to be able to
articulate to why we're not going to let them have it.
Chris Rollins threw out the fact that if we let one guy sell trees what's
to say that twenty other people aren 't going to come to us wanting to
sell trees or if one person wants to sell trees in multiple locations .
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Swithin said that there is a policy that does talk about parks in certain
locations and what we felt was appropriate in our parks and in others
and maybe we should continue to review and refine that policy .
Rollins said that we could say that we as the City decided to sell trees
as a fundraiser in turn we 'd tell these private individuals no . Sedgwick
thought we could set up our own trees and decorates them and then
auction them off for charity . Laura Haake brought up a good point that
even though in the seller's agreement they would take down the
display every night that is a big deal ! It's not that easy she said and
you 're talking about moving 100 lb trees and every time you move
them they drop needles . She also noted that putting them on the
grass tears up the grass and it will get real messy with snow and
slush .
With all the discussion Rollins states that we have good reasons to
object this request. Rollins did a roll call vote on the request of
Truman 's request, on the approval to accept two individuals to run a
private Christmas tree sale in this town . Truman -Yes ; Horaz- No ; Koch -
No ; Chris- No ; Sedg wick- Present. Due to the majority vote they will not
accept this proposal .
Reports:
Director Report
1 . David Mogle stated that between the time he typed his memo
regarding the Hoover Report, dating August 23rd, and now that Hoover
actually purchased the property and it had been made public.
However, Mogle stated that they would like to talk to the Mayor about
some kind of participation , which goes beyond the focus of the
property . Right now he said we're looking at the first part of October
either the Ise 2nd or 4tn
Chris Rollins brought up a concern he had about the fact that they
didn 't set up any kind of scheduled a payment participation that
included the parks they recently purposed . He asked if we were talking
about an outright purchase part of it or leasing it. Mogle said they
purchased the land and the best way that he could explain it is that he
believed that they were going to ask if there were going to be some
kind of an outlay of cash that would go towards the purchase . He
really didn 't know what direction they were going to go into during the
meeting .
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Rollins wanted to know what we've gotten for our money so far. Mogle
said the City has contributed a large investment of 600 thousand
dollars .
Sedgwick wanted to know if it's possible to get out of this and Rollins
stated that he hopes it doesn 't come down to that. Rollins stated that
we devoted a great deal of our own resources to make this Hoover
purchase possible so lets not forget that despite speaker Haster or
local government or what anyone else might have done that our
contribution made this purchase possible . Sedgwick said basically we
gave them a loan so they could purchase the park and Rollins said that
we should just say, " look our expectations are to get what we
originally agreed which was a grant to use a space at this park, " and if
we don 't get this they are in breach of the agreement. He stated
Yorkville taxpayers are not going to be happy to have paid half a
million dollars and they end up getting nothing out of it.
Rollins felt like a representative from Corelands should attend this
upcoming meeting along with the press . Mogle wasn 't sure if it were
going to be a public meeting but there is nothing that we can do right
now until we know what is going to be talked about and Rollins
brought up a good point that nothing in this meeting with the Mayor
can be agreed upon . Truman would like a briefing after the meeting .
2 . David Mogle stated that Scott, Laura and he would be attending the
NRPA Conference to attend educational and networking sessions .
However he said that was the week of the Park Board meeting but he
suggested that we go ahead and have a Board meeting .
3 . David Mogle reported that the YMCA has formally written the Mayor
looking for an audience and wants to be at the City Council meeting
the 1st of October. Rollins said that he had a brief discussion with a
state college from another state, in regard to a conference that he's
going to next week, and they talked about the YMCA; he brought to
Rollin 's attention that there are several ways that the YMCA lost their
tax exempt status . Due to their association of health club operators
that has taken them to task he said they were competing directly with
tax paying businesses and they offer the same amenities that our
health club offers . For that portion of the YMCA operation it lost its
non -for- profit status in a couple different locations Rollins stated . So
this is something to consider but it is a reasonable point to raise with
our Alderman that the kind of amenities that the YMCA proposes do
compete directly with people who operate for- profit health clubs and
pay taxes and the YMCA does not . So on top of that the YMCA would
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be asking for money to compete with other tax paying businesses so
that, to Rollins seems, is not viewed as a good thing .
Recreation Report
1 , Sue Swithin reported some of the highlights from the busy summer.
She said the Park Open House was a huge success we had a great
partnership with the park staff in working together. They had a lot of
helping hands .
2 . She reported that the two interns are now gone but they were really
great. She said Ryan , former intern , did a great job running the car
show and it was the biggest car shows they've had during Hometown
Days . She said the interns loved us and they put in their reports that
they had a great experience here and they loved the staff and learned
a great deal of the recreation side and parks side .
3 . She said that in August they all went through the BASSET training
program that allowed them to serve alcohol and check identification
during Hometown Days . This certification is good for life . This was just
another avenue to make sure she knew how to run the beer trailer
during Hometown Days .
4 . Swithin shares an email from a gentleman who attended a Pilates
class and his complaints . He is angry that there is not one place for
the class . Sue explains the other classes they have and that the
classes will have to have special accommodations and there will be
such accommodations made until she gets her own studio for these
classes such as Yoga and Pilates . Sue feels this letter is good for her
because it shows she needs more space for the classes . Rollins stated
that we have always been more than understanding with people and in
turn they have stuck with us in taking our classes and going through
our growing panes . Rollins felt as if the memo Swithin typed is
appropriate for a reply to the gentleman 's email complaint.
5 . Swithin stated that we do still have parking issues out at Beacher.
She said that she made some changes with the youth six division and
that they will go out to the Rotary to play and that will hopefully
alleviate some of that parking issues at Beacher.
She said that there still were some issues at the businesses on RT 47
that could either be her soccer parents parking or the high school
travel team or visitors parking there . She noted that she had no
control over the travel program and the high school programs but she
mentioned she had signs put up that said " NO Parking or you may be
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towed " however they didn 't work and all but one had been taken
down .
She then stated that Rita from the library contacted her on the parking
problem there and she was encouraged to put up signs for library
patrons only . Sue stated that she wanted the board to know she was
doing everything on her part to alleviate some of the parking
problems .
Additional Business :
Future Meeting Schedule & Agenda Items
1 . David Mogle didn 't have anything to add for the future meeting
schedule .
2 . Ken Koch brought up the fact that he had a baseball meeting
Sunday and that there are a group of 7 or 8 people from Wally BS who
are going to do a tour of all the baseball fields to do an inventory of all
the fields that they want changes or upgrades to be made to . He just
wanted the board to be aware of it. He said that he knew they were
going to talk to Scott about the portable mounds. He said that the
players steel spikes torn them up and they're trying to get new ones
through their warranty but they were going to ask for permanent
mounds . Sue said maintaining permanent mounds would be taking
away from other activities . Sedgwick said they'd just have to look into
better quality portable mounds .
3 . Sedgwick asked if there were any more complaints about our
fireworks mishaps . Mogle stated that, what had happened during the
Fourth of July fireworks display, two separate home owners had minor
damage to their property . Those city residents are getting quotes to
have their property paid for and they have been very gracious and
corporative with the city . The only real complaint, came from one
individual , was that it was too loud too late. Mogle stated that two
things could be done differently next year and that would be limit the
fireworks that spray and not light off the loud booming ones at the end
of the show .
Chris Rollins made a motion to suspend the regular meeting and enter
into executive session , for two purposes, for the discussion of minutes
of meetings lawfully closed under the meetings act for the purchase of
lease agreement property for the use of the public body . Horaz made a
motion and Truman seconded the motion .
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Chris Rollins called a roll to call vote to go into executive session : Chris
Rollins-Yes ; Ken Koch -Yes ; Van Truman -Yes ; Deb Horaz-Yes ; Kelly-
Sedgwick-Yes .
Rollins noted presently in the executive session for the purpose of the
meeting minutes are Dave Mogle, Director of Parks and Recreation and
board members : Chris Rollins ; Ken Koch ; Van Truman ; Deb Horaz ;
and Kelly Sedgwick.
Regular meeting suspended at 9 : 05 pm and executive session started
at 9 : 07 pm
Adjournment:
Motion made by Rollins to go back into regular session at 11 : 20 PM
and Horaz seconded the motion . The motion was unanimously
approved by voice vote and meeting was adjourned at 11 : 20 PM .
* Next Meeting : September 27, 2007
Minutes respectfully submitted by
Jamie Cheatham , Minute Taker
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Yorkville Park Board
FROM: Dave Mogle (DAt), Director of Parks and Recreation
RE: September 27, Board Meeting
DATE: September 24, 2007
As discussed at the September 13, 2007 Park Board Meeting Scott, Laura, and I will be
attending the NRPA Annual Conference in Indianapolis this week. I will be returning to
Yorkville Friday evening.
The Park Board Meeting will be devoted to topics in Recreation and Sue will be on hand
to cover those. It is anticipated it will be a short meeting. However, besides the various updates,
there will be bills to approve and an Executive Session to inform the board on Land Acquisition
issues, particularly the one we spoke at length about on September 13 in which the Board was
unanimously in favor of gathering more information for consideration. There will also be an
issue concerning personnel.
Sue and I have conferred on the meeting contents and she will be able to represent staff
well in my absence and that of the others, Have a good week.