Public Safety Minutes 1998 07-29-98 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
Committee Minutes - Public Safety
Date of Meeting: July 29, 1998 Time Convened: 6:35 P.M.
Location: 111 W. Fox Time Adjourned: 10:20 P.M.
Attendees:
Rose Spears
Art Prochaska
Larry Kot
Tom Hughes
Mohammad Kapadia
Tony Graff
Jeff Spang
Nancy James
Stephanie Ascensio
Dave Senorich
Discussion
1. ) Pride Pantry Liquor License Classification Request - Tom Hughes
has requested a reclassification of the liquor licenses for
Pride Pantry from a beer and wine to a full liquor licenses.
This Committee will make the recommendation to Mayor Johnson,
the Liquor Commissioner. This does not require a Council vote.
Their idea is to put the large bottles of liquor on the back
wall on the top shelf to make it harder for kids to reach it.
The second idea would be a back load locking cabinet with the
only access by the cashier or attendant. Hughes would not have
spent one half of a million dollars on the property if he had
not have been told he would get a full liquor licenses.
Kapadia feels that it has been more then six months since the
violation. Prochaska would like to see some of the things he
would like done. He would like to see a separate area for
liquor. Prochaska does not feel that we have a clear
definition of when a convenience store becomes a liquor store.
Kapadia wants to know why no one is concerned with the other
stores in town selling liquor, they do not have separate
areas. Prochaska talked with residents in the area and
everyone likes the store being there. Kapadia said they would
just like equal treatment. Hughes sees an opportunity to make
money. McKeevers was closed for three months. Kapadia thinks
that maybe somebody does not want him here. Graff does not
want this to get personal or for Kapadia to attack us. Kapadia
said that he did not get a call that the meeting Monday was
rescheduled until Monday at 6:00 P.M. Graff said he
apologized for the late notice. Graff feels that Kapadia is a
good operator and does a good job with the store. Kapadia was
told that there would be a six month cooling off period. That
cooling off period will be over in August. No matter what the
Committee recommends it is still up to the Liquor Commissioner.
Kapadia would like to know why a full liquor licenses was not
issued before he took over the store? Mayor Johnson went to
Jones and Prochaska in April and asked their opinion. At that
time Jones and Prochaska did not feel that a full liquor
licenses was a good idea_ Hughes does not want to loose
Kapadia. Both Kapadia and his wife work very hard. When
Hughes built the Shell station he was told that he could not
have a full liquor license because he sold gasoline. He would
like to have a tools to sell before a Walgreens or some other
store comes to town. Kot said there are no hidden agendas
here. We are trying to work with them as best as we can.
Graff likes the idea of the liquor cabinet and feels that the
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top shelf is a good idea also_ The cashier would be able to
see a youngster reach up and it should draw attention. There
is a full liquor licenses available. In all fairness Graff
would recommend with the friendly agreement and with
provisions. It is up to the Liquor Commissioner to decide on a
time. If there are no more violation the cooling off period is
over August 24. This has been very frustrating. Prochaska has
talked with several residents that have no problems with what
they currently sell or with the idea of selling hard liquor as
long as the kids are not able to get to the smaller bottles or
any kind of bottle. Kot would like to propose that they get a
full liquor licenses sometime after August 24 with the
agreement from Dan that is acceptable with the Liquor
Commissioner and Graff with no additional violations.
Prochaska would be in favor if there was a limited access. lie
will be watching and listening to the residents in the area and
if there are any complaints at all he will make it known to
Mayor Johnson. The agreement will need to include wording the
it will not be able to become a full liquor store. Spang feels
that there needs to be controls to be applied to all new stores
coming into town. Prochaska would like to have for future
reference what we will and will not allow. We really need to
have a clear cut policy in place.
2. ) Website Demonstration by Sundoro Corporation - A web site is
different then a web environment. We have been discussing
smart ways to build a web environment. We are in the early
stages of planning. The first step it to have a plan so our
investment dollars are well spent. We need to understand what
visitors to our web site really want or need. We need to think
about what our visitors need in a very readily state. The web
site needs to be user friendly. And we need to think about
what will motivate our visitors to come back. We should have a
team together to gather information and decide what needs to be
there and what does not. Some ideas on planning is once teams
have been defined everything should be put down on paper so
that there is full clarification and everyone knows what is
expected. This proposal was specific to the Police Department.
There is still a lot of discussions that need to take place.
We need to have goals and objectives. Graff does not want just
a web page but a whole encompassing web environment. Sundoro
can and will manage the site. They have done work for the City
of Peoria. There are referenced in the information packet.
Price is a factor but seems to be in line for the Police
Department. There is money in the budget for this. Graff
would the officers to be more technical to be able to interact
with the students better. Intranet is a secured area for
employees to use with classified information. A lot of people
start out with just a static site before building a database.
There is only a few thousand dollars difference and if you can
afford to do a database that is the best way to go because of
growth. Graff would like to have Ascensio and Senorich from
Sundoro come out and meet with Nanninga. J.T. , Wywrot, and
Detmer would like to know some more uses. Consulting services
are $125.00 per hour. Ascensio encourages any feed back on any
of the sites they have done. once everything is done you need
to be able to measure the success. Rot would like to recommend
going to Nanninga. Proposal will need to include the whole
City. we need to make sure our budget can support it. Sundoro
will provide a paper trail so if they leave tomorrow someone
else can come in and finish the project. Kot would like to
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move this on to Nanninga.
3. ) Adult Entertainment Zoning Ordinance - we are looking to
tighten up on our adult entertainment ordinance. This copy
come from the Illinois Municipal League and Lockport. We can
limit where they locate. We do not want to regulate
therapeutic massages. The burden is not on us. It is on the
owner/operator. we may need to do a separate ordinance for
what is considered therapeutic massages. This is an important
part of the ordinance. Spang thinks we need a definition of
therapeutic massages. Talk to Dan about the therapeutic
massages. Send ordinance to COW as is with clarification on
definition. Spang would also like to include something on
video stores to make sure X-rated movies are not playing in the
store and there is no public display of them.
4. ) Budget Review FY98/99 - Overtime Usage Report Reviewed -
Overtime is average for this time of year. Graff had done a
three year analysis. We are about the same as last year. For
the year before we are at about half. Investigative hours are
a little higher. Graff is looking to upgrade the computers
from 133' s to 2001s.
5. ) June Police Reports - Graff has been working with Shell on
retail thefts. we are going to withdraw service to Shell.
They can not tell us if a crime has really occurred. They call
10 to 15 minutes after a crime has occurred. They can not
identify if it was a car or a van. We will do an assist
business. It could be a theft by an employee.
In goals and objectives, we wanted to do more equipment stops.
The number of tickets have increased and we are writing tickets
for loud music.
6. ) C.O.P.S. Grant Award - Universal Hiring - We received letter
requesting a signature. We need to take this to City Council
to confirm that we want to receive grant. Our goal is to get
authorization to sign letter in September that we would like to
hire another officer. Graff would like to supply a plan on
what he would like to do. He would like to have three
Sergeants. One on each shift. Bring back to next meeting.
Our growth will need to support.
MDT's Update - Bids have been opened. Motorola won. Laptops
will be by Panasonic. Bring Alert agreement to COW. Our grant
cover most of the MDT's and we have budgeted $11,000.
Hopefully they will be ready by November 1.
7. ) Human Resource Commission - Update - We had the orientation
meeting. Seven people came and four agreed to be on the
Commission. Two people agreed by phone because they were
unable to make it to the meeting. No one is specific in the
ordinance. Terms are stagger. We need one more person. Bring
to this Committee for recommendation.
8. ) 10 Year vehicle Purchase Plan - Basically the plan starts out
purchasing five new squad cars this year. We would have to get
a loan over three years. We would have to repay $43,000 per
year. If we get the development fees we would be ok. If not
then we would be short. Prochaska would like to be really
careful with relaying on development fees. Refurbishing cost
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$10,000 to $12,000 and only last approximately 50,000
miles to three years. It is feasible. Kot is concerned with
purchasing so much at one time. He would rather stagger the
purchasing so we do not need to replace them all at the same
time. We are going to need to purchase computers and other
things. There is a lot of uncertainty on where our growth is
going_ First we talk of refurbishing and then we don't_
Prochaska suggest maybe refurbishing one squad and purchasing
two or something like that. The next year look at purchasing
one and refurbishing one. Graff would like to get a Suburu as
an all purpose vehicle. An all purpose vehicle would be good
to have. It could be two to three months before we get new
cars. Prochaska would like to wait until later in the fiscal
year in case we do not get the development fees we are
expecting. In the budget we have the ability to do something
now. With the refurbishing money we have enough money for the
first payment. Prochaska wants to stay conservative this
budget year. $43,000 is in budget. $20,000 for new and
$21,000 for refurbishing. Then we can still look at it again
later in the year. Graff is concerned with waiting one more
month. He is concerned that something major will happen to one
of the older cars and it will need a major repair. Rot will
recommend to COW to purchase 2 new cars on a three year lease
plan. $16,000 is for the first years payment. Graff thinks
that the budget will support two new cars and one refurbishing
now. The older squad cars will be passed to the Public Works
and Engineering departments.
9. ) False Alarm Ordinance - 1st Draft - Tabled.
10. ) Downtown Parking - Ameritech has written us a letter stating
that they will come up with some parking. There is not enough
room for parking trucks and Graff is about to start citing
them_ Bridgebury would like to limit parking in front of her
store to 30 minutes. People say they do not shop there because
they can not find parking. Maybe Dan could write something
specific to her business. Prochaska would like to see a
recommendation from the downtown area to have a 30 minute
parking area. Bring back.
11. ) Web Site Coordinator - Job Description - Tabled_
12. ) Part-Time Police Officer Proposed New Salary Schedule - Tabled.
13. ) Fox. Hill Subdivision - Traffic Concerns, RE: Entrance
Contractor met with Dresden. Prochaska was told that Dresden
has contract pending including Sycamore and Diehl Faris. Paving
will be done by townhomes and some of Diehl Farm will be paved
also. Do not have a time frame. Intersection could be done by
May 1.
14. ) National Night Out - Activities Planned for August 4th.
Additional Business - Gas Main Break - We do not know if anyone
was notified_ Everyone in the area should have been notified.
Prochaska would like a letter sent to NiGas letting them know
that this is unacceptable. Graff will get a report.
Complaints from Resident on Adrienne - Spang received a
complaint from a resident about the number of rude bicyclists
in our town over the weekend. We had over 1,300 bicyclists go
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though Yorkville. Some were riding four and five across Van
Emmon making it nearly impossible for cars to go around. They
were from the Elmhurst Bike Club.. Sheriff expresses that next
year we need to sit down with them and go over the rules. In
the past we have written tickets_ we do normally become a
little tolerant. Spang would like to welcome them but he would
also like them to be good neighbors and respect us. Graff
will let them know that if they do not follow the rules that he
will issue tickets.
Neighborhood Watch Meeting - Had a questionnaire to be filled
out rating the City departments. All departments did receive
satisfactory comments. But by far the Police department is
above satisfactory.
Burning Ordinance - Nancy James said there is a lot of burning
going on at night. According to our amended ordinance you can
burn but it must be contained. James said the ordinance states
in daylight. She would like to see some restrictions on times.
Why would we allow it at night? Most camp fires are at night.
Kot would like to have Dan go over the ordinance and make sure
it is clear_ James suggest maybe some guidelines on contained
fires. The Police do not enforce Boca Codes. List distances
and times. Graff will get with Dan_
Next Scheduled Meeting - August 24, 1996 at 6:30 P.M.
Minutes by: Mollie Anderson
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