COW Minutes 1995 02-16-95 CITY OF YORKVILLE
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MINUTES
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 1995
ST. PATRICK'S PARISH CENTER
YORKVILLE, ILLINOIS
The meeting was convened at 6:00 p.m. Members present were Art Prochaska,
John Wold, Jeff Spang, Jeff Baker, Bob Johnson, Bill Baird and Burt Callmer.
Others present were Jim Nanninga, Tony Graff, J.T. Johnson, Todd Hiles,
Matt Fiascone, James Liggett, Bill Schmanski, and Bob Smith.
Lions Club Pool: Discussions opened regarding the YMCA taking over opera-
tion of the pool. The YMCA is asking for a commitment of $15,000.00. With
said commitment they would begin marketing. The YMCA agreed that any of
the money left over would be applied to capitol improvements. The commitee
agreed to make the commitment.
Water main break-Georgiana: There was a question regarding the amount of
money lost due to this break.
I.D.O.T Agreement-Fox Street Traffic Light: Art Prochaska stated that the
city has received an agreement from I.D.O.T. for a light at Fox and Rt. 47.
$5,000 has been budgeted for the light. It will be I.D.O.T.'S light. The city
will split maintenance costs 50% and pay 100% of the electricity. The light
will be installed in the Fall.
FOX INDUSTRIAL PARK: Art Prochaska reported that he has had positive
discusions with Fox Industrial Park. They have agreed upon a figure of
$5,000 per one acre lot. Other issues are still being worked on.
OVERSIZING COSTS: City ordinance states that we are responsible for the
$66,100.00 oversizing for the waterline going out to Blackberry Creek North.
Discussion continued as to why the city should pay instead of the developer.
Future wording in the ordinance should be changed to make this a negotiable
item. The $66,100.00 is already in next year's budget.
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INLAND-CORNEILS PROPERTY: Matt Fiascone reviewed the facts regarding the
purchase of the land by F.E. Wheaton. There is a 4/1/95 deadline to finalize
the contract. He presented a map of the proposed parcels with Inland's time
frame for developing the parcels. He stated it is in Inland's best interest to
develop as much of the land for commercial industrial use, but the first
residential parcel would be developed if after two years it has not been sold
for industrial use. Discussions followed regarding a water tower, treatment
plant capacity and the possibility of negotiating Inland's. two year
residential development. Matt Fiascone said Inland would donate the land for
a water tower and pay for improvements necessary for utilities, but they
would not pay for a water tower. More discussions followed.
Jim Liggett stated that Yorkville wants business development; therefore,
why not cooperate with Inland.
Tony Graff expressed that Dan Kramer should make up a plan to negotiate the
details with Inland.
Art Prochaska said that he likes Inland's plan in general and it's time to
begin working on the details.
Bob Johnson and Jeff Baker both feel that the two year deadline for
residential development is too short, but in general, they like the plan.
Questions resumed regarding the water treatment plant's ability to handle
the development by Inland.
Ken Kittoe agreed to speak with Dan Kramer tomorrow so he could begin
working out the details to present to Inland.
MONTHLY POLICE REPORTS/DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT: Tony Graff
reported that downtown business is thriving. Liquor possession/consump-
tion on city property was addressed.
REQUEST FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR POLICE OFFICERS:Tony Graff stated he
would like resumes in by 3/17/95. He would like to advertise next week.
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COPSMORE GRANT: Tony Graff reported that Yorkville has formally accepted
the $75,000.00 federal grant. A resolution will be needed from the council.
Tony will write the grant and present it next week. There is a 3/7/95 deadline.
INTERIM CHIEF POSITION: Tony Graff stated that at the committee meeting on
Monday evening it was recommended that the person second in command will
take the position while Tony is in Virginia.
3 YEAR POLICE ACTIVITY REVIEW: Tony Graff reported the cost to operate in
1992-93 was $1,810.00 per day. Today it is $2,080.00. In 1994 31,000 hours of
service were dedicated to the city by the police department.
GAME FARM HOUSE TOUR: Tony Graff has the key to the Game Farm house and
offered a tour after the public hearing.
NEW BUSINESS: Jeff Baker stated that there was a lot of hostility and lack of
professionalism at last night's planning commission meeting. There is a vacancy
that can be filled by appointment from the mayor. It is a nonvoting position .
Ken Kittoe agreed to do that next Thursday.
Bill Baird informed the committee that there is a 3/15/95 deadline to apply for
the North Sewer and Water Project Grant. A lot of work needs to be done for this
at Amurol.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:25 p.m. to be followed by a public hearing on the
Neighborhood Traffic Study.
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MINUTES OF THE CITY OF YORKVILLE
PUBLIC HEARING-NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC STUDY
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 1995
ST. PATRICK'S PARISH CENTER
YORKVILLE, ILLINOIS
The hearing was convened at 7:32 p.m. by Mayor Ken Kittoe. City council
members present were Ken Kittoe, Art Prochaska, John Wold, Jeff Spang,
Jeff Baker, Burt Callmer, Bob Johnson and Bill Baird. Also present were
Jim Nanninga, J.T. Johnson, Tony Graff, Todd Hiles and Bob Smith. Citizens
present were Dale Woodworth, Jennifer Pommer, Karen Hurt, Kyle
Donneley, William Johnson, Dr. and Mrs. Joseph Menardi, Identa Austin,
Michelle Cullen, Jack Jones; William Dawson and Harry Rothaug.
Art Prochaska welcomed everyone and introduced those present who could
answer the citizens' concerns. He opened the meeting to the citizens ask-
ing them to refer to the item numbers on their copies of the List of Inter-
sections and Changes as Recommended by the Traffic Study.
Karen Hurt of 410 E. Park St. expressed her concern about item #14, the
proposed removal of a stop sign near a park where so many children play.
One child has already been hit by a car.
Jennifer Pommer of 408 E. Park St. stated that in the towns near her
former residence there are stop signs near the parks.
Dale Woodworth was concerned about the lack of a left turn lane from Rte.
47 into the residential area. Jim Nanninga responded that there will be a
left turn lane at Somonauk. Mr. Woodworth also expressed concern over
item #18 and asked if another study for a 4-way stop at Main and McHugh
could be done at this time. It is especially bad when the pool is open.
Jack Jones reiterated Mr. Woodworth's concerns over item #18. He asked
for more police to patrol the area. Mr. Jones also expressed his dismay
over the removal of the stop sign near the park.
Art Prochaska asked the council if there were any provisions to consult
regarding the placement of stop signs near parks. Art also recommended
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an educational program could be implemented for the children in the area.
Ken Kittoe assured the residents that nothing would be removed until it is
checked legally what we can do.
Barbara Menardi of 403 E. Park St. stated her concerns over the removal of
the stop sign near the park and also the placement of no parking signs on
Freemont and the north side of Park St. She wonders where cars will park
if parking is restricted. She is also concerned of the dangers serveral
parked cars will present to young pedestrians going to the park.
Karen Hurt stated that the street light at Jackson and McHugh is malfunc-
tioning. Council responded that Mr: Nanninga and Mr. Johnson would check
it out tomorrow. Residents were encouraged to report matters such as
this to the city.
Mrs. Austin of 712 N. Bridge St. asked what would be happening at
Walnut/Bristol and Rte. 47. Art Prochaska responded that something
should be done regarding this area. The council would like to find a perm-
anent sollution to this problem. Tony Graff stated that we need to get
I.D.O.T. to look at this area as a priority. Discussions continued regarding
safety issues at this area.
William Dawson of 711 Bristol Rd. stated that "Children Play" signs etc.
are completely ignored by motorists. Police presence is the only thing
that drivers pay attention to.
Bill Johnson of E. Center expressed his concerns over Item No. 7. He stated
that the addition of a stop sign is good but that trees and bushes on the
south side of the road are a problem.
Michelle Cullen addressed Item No. 23. She expressed her concerns over
the removal of a stop sign at Liberty and Spring. Art Prochaska stated his
concerns also as a citizen regarding this matter stating that because of
the hills he has seen children lose control of their bicycles.
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Karen Hurt stated that the signs that show people their speeds help slow
traffic, but police presence is better.
Ken Kittoe informed the citizens that these concerns will go to legal
counsel and the state (I.D.O.T.) will be informed of their concerns.
J.T. Johnson addressed that any problems with this plan can be presented
to the state and I.D.O.T. but state law is written that the traffic study
should be followed.
Bob Smith addressed the citizens and council regarding the submittal of
studies to I.D.O.T. and how I.D.O.T. will not get involved regarding local
issues and that these issues have already been addressed.
After being questioned by Ken Kittoe, Mr. Smith responded that there is no
time limit to reviewing a traffic study as long as it is being actively
reviewed and not put on the shelf.
Jeff Spang questioned whether the presence of the park was considered
when doing the study because it is not mentioned in the justification for
the removal of the stop signs. Mr. Smith responded affirmatively. Mr.
Smith also informed the citizens that these studies do not look at pedes-
trians for these issues. The answers to some of their concerns lie in more
parental control, educating the children etc. It has been proven that the
placement of 4-way stop signs presents more danger than using the proper
controls such as education etc. He also stated that it has been proven that
stop signs can increase speed. One option could be to fence in the park
area.
Dale Woodworth stated that if more parks were in more subdivisions then
one park would not accumulate so many children in one area.
Bill Baird responded that at one time a commitment was made to the Lions
Club to put up playground equipment near the pool.
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Jennifer Pommer asked if one more survey could be done in mid-summer
when so many children are present at the park.
Karen Hurt stated she did not realize a person could sue the city because a
stop sign was placed where one was not recommended. Tony Graff
responded that it would increase the city's liablilty; however, if the board
feels there is sufficient reason to contradict the study and placement of a
stop sign could be defended, the board would place one- there.
J. T. Johnson informed the citizens that these studies have been studied
and researched for over fifty years.
Mrs. Menardi questioned the number of vehicles at the Park/Freemont
intersection. Bob Smith responded it was just over 1000 per day and the
state's recommendation for a 4-way stop is 5000 vehicles per day.
Bob Smith stated that he has recommended stop signs because of pedes-
trians in the past but only in cases where significant traffic impeded the
ability to cross.
Mrs. Menardi questioned why a 2-way stop sign was not recommended over
a yield sign. Mr. Smith responded it has to do with sight and distance.
Discussion followed regarding whether parked cars were taken into con-
sideration with the sight and distance issue.
Jennifer Pommer asked Bob Smith if summer months were taken into con-
sideration when the traffic study was done in the Fall. Mr. Smith
responded affirmatively.
Ken Kittoe and Todd Hiles agreed that the city will look into the residents'
concerns. Art Prochaska asked the citizens to watch the area and report
things to the police and to the city council. He recommended speaking to
neighbors etc. who speed. Ken Kittoe adjourned the meeting at 8:42.
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