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MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE UNITED CITY OF
THE VILLAGE OF YORKVILLE, KENDALL COUNTY, ILLINOIS
HELD AT THE KENDALL COUNTY BOARD ROOM
MARCH 18 , 1992 7 :00 p.m.
The March meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by
Chairman Harold Feltz . The following members were in attendance;
Harold Feltz , George Stewart, Clarence Holdiman, Sandra Adams,
Tom Lindbloom, Anne Lucietto, and Bob Davidson.
Absent : Don Ament , Larry Langland , Gail Digate, Kevin Collman,
and Louis Nauman.
Others present: James Clarage, Don Peck, Mayor Kittoe,
Bill Baird, Pat Clark, Dave Sanderson, and
Richard Scheffrah.
The minutes of the February meeting were presented and approved .
The motion was made by Sandra Adams , seconded by Bob Davidson.
Voice vote carried .
**********************PC92-3 (FORMER BROWN 'S MOTEL) ****************
The first order of business was a Public Hearing concerning the
annexation request by the City for the former Brown ' s Motel
(PC92-3 Aubrey) . Don Peck was sworn in and he also made the
presentation of the petition.
Don Peck explained that this petition is for the annexation of
the former Brown ' s Motel , petitioners being Richard and Louise
Aubrey. They are asking for zoning to B-3 Service Business
District from B-3 . Don Peck asked that the Plan Commission
take action on this , as the City is in favor of this . At
this time Chairman Feltz noted that all adjoining and contiguous
property owners have been notified.
Chairman Feltz asked if there were any further comments on
this petition, and since there were none, Chairman Feltz
closed the Public Hearing and resumed the meeting.
**********************PC92-4 (BOWLING ALLEY) *********************
This Public Hearing is for PC92-4 (Bowling Alley) and again
Don Peck presented this petition. Don Peck explained that
this petition is for the annexation of the Bowling Alley
and a change from B-3 County to B-3 City Zoning. Don
said the easements have been outlined and everything is
in accord with the three owners , Ronald Wheaton, Kelly
Taylor and Marion Brue . Once again, Don Peck explained that
the City approves of this .
Chairman Feltz asked if there were any further comments on
this petition, and since there were none, Chairman Feltz
closed the Public Hearing and resumed the regular Plan
Commission meeting.
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PC92 3 (Annexation and rezone - former Brown ' s Motel )
Mr. Clarage asked if there is a plat or survey exhibit
with the petition. Don Peck replied that the City has
not received one yet . Chairman Feltz commented that it
would be easier to have one so that the easements and such
could be located in picture form. Don Peck said that when
he receives the exhibit he will send it to everyone on the
board .
Bob Davidson made a motion to approve annexation and re-
zoning from County B-3 to City B-3 Service Business District
of PC92-3 , seconded by Sandra Adams . Roll call vote carried
as follows :
Feltz - yes Stewart - yes
Adams - yes Lindbloom - yes
Holdiman - yes Lucietto - yes
Davidson - yes
PC92 4 (Annexation and rezone - Bowling Alley)
Bob Davidson questioned the easements on the plat included
with the exhibit . Don Peck explained that the sewer line
is coming from Sunset and is actually into the property
line. The City wants to take the sewer line over to the
property line and follow the property line down and around
so the sewer line would end close to Route 47 . Don explained
that the triangle at the corner of the plat would probably
be sold off to the people to the north to give rectangular
lots . Don commented that Wholesale Tire would like to
tie into the sewer line at the NE corner of the property
to eliminate the tearing up of asphalt .
Don Peck explained that the water line would have to come
from Sunset Street and that there will be an easement across
lot #57, and that the water line would be built to Rt. 47 at
this time. George Stewart questioned if there would be any
hook-up fees and Don informed him that there is a recapture
agreement . The City will pay for the installation of sewer
and water lines and will be on a recapture agreement for the
six properties that can tie in, and individually each property
would pay one-sixth. George Stewart questioned if the $11 ,000
charge was for the recapture agreement , and Don Peck informed
him that the $11 ,000 charge is for the purchase of easements .
Tom Lindbloom questioned the water line size, and Don Peck
said that there are both 8" and 12" on Sunset . Tom Lindbloom
expressed concern if the adjacent property owned by the fire
department were to be sold or developed would the water
supply be adequate? Don Peck felt that given the small sized
area this would affect, that 12" with 8" feedings are sufficient.
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James Clarage asked that Attorney Kramer look over the items
which have been discussed regarding this petition.
George Stewart questioned if it would be precedent setting
to pay $11,000 for easements , and what if the City would
have to pay for easements all along down Route 47? Chairman
Feltz answered that negotiations cannot be controlled between
the City and a landowner . Bob Davidson explained that the
agreement drafted allowing 1 free water and sewer hook-up
had been approved by the Plan Commission previously.
George Stewart questioned the wording of "Section E" which
allows for a one hour later closing time than the City ' s
other Liquor establishments . Bob Davidson explained that
the license was grandfathered in and goes with the property,
not the owners . George Stewart asked if by the way Section E
is worded , does that mean that even if the County were to change
the closing times that the Bowling Alley ' s hours would remain
unaffected? Chairmen Feltz recommended that Attorney Kramer
look over this language, and also Bob Davidson said that the
Section should contain a provision for Sunday morning opening
hour at 10 :00 a .m.
James Clarage also noted that item 3 should read "Compliance with
the Zoning Ordinance" , not "Compliance with Subdivision Control
Ordinance" .
Tom Lindbloom made a motion to approve annexation and rezoning
from B-3 County to B-3 City Zoning of PC92-4, contingent on
Attorney Kramer ' s review of the questions raised. Anne Lucietto
seconded the motion. Roll call vote carried as follows :
Davidson - yes Lucietto - yes
Lindbloom - yes Adams - yes
Holdiman - yes Stewart -yes
Feltz - yes
FISHER PROPOSAL
At this time Don Peck said that Dean Fisher would like to pass
a handout of a proposal for property between Hatcher Medical
and Kentucky Fried Chicken. Dean Fisher explained that what
he is proposing is to put a "Carstar Collision Repair Facility"
and a "Midas Muffler Shop" . Dean Fisher passed out a conceptual .
drawing showing where the businesses would be situated on the site.
He said that he will need several things . 1 . ) the property needs
to be rezoned, 2 . ) needs Rte. 34 access to the property, and 3 . )
the de-acceleration lane extended down 150 feet to allow safe
access to the property. Fisher explained that he understands
that some of the Plan Commission ' s concerns would be the cars
on the property and the emissions and wanted to assure Plan
Commission that he will abide by any restrictions placed on the
property by Plan Commission. Fisher explained how he will do
cedar fencing, landscaping, and earth-berming to hide the vehicles .
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Dean Fisher explained that the buildings themselves would
be constructed of designer fluted block with interlaced
brick. The Carstar building would be off-white with gray
brick and a blue accent roof, and the Midas Shop would
be done in earthtones . He explained that his Midas Shop
would look identical to the Midas Shop in Fox Valley. He
said that Carstar is a new franchise with only 32 others
located in the Chicago land area . He also pointed out
some features including; sanders hooked to a central vac,
a downdraft paint booth with a water filter system, and a
carbon prep deck for sanding. He feels that this business
can be located close to a restaurant safely. He explained
that he currently has a collision repair shop on his property
zoned A-1 and he will probably be closing that within a year.
Dean Fisher said that he would have this a PUD.
Bob Davidson asked how many cars would be on the premises ,
and Dean Fisher said there would probably be about 20 cars
for the Carstar and none at Midas (Midas requires that no
vehicles are left outside overnight) . He explained that by
April 15 he should have a better drawing detailing the plan
to "shield" the cars. George Stewart questioned the method
that would be used for security. Dean Fisher said he will
use an electric eye type security system.
Dean Fisher asked for a recommendation for zoning, and Bob
Davidson told him it would have to be B-4 . Chairman Feltz
explained that an important factor when considering this ,
will be what the neighbors feel about it . Dean Fisher
said that he will talk to the neighbors about his proposal .
He also explained that Don Peck and himself have walked the
property and there is water running onto it from Kentucky
Fried Chicken, Super Wash and Pizza Hut; but he will be
including retention in his plan. Fisher also said that
the property is very conducive for his plan; as he would
have the exposure on the front and closed up in the back.
Dave Sanderson from Wholesale Tire explained that he sold
a Carstar type facility located in a residential area in
Aurora, and 5 years later additional property was purchased
to add on and become a Carstar franchise and there was no
public outcry over their proposal , even though it was in the
middle of a residential area .
George Stewart said that he has a problem with PUD ' s (not
necessarily in this case) but in cases where promises made
were not kept . He questioned what would happen if Dean Fisher
were to sell these businesses? Bob Davidson commented that
he felt this should be a PUD and suggested that some type of
bond be put up by the developer for the work that needs to
be finished to assure that it be done properly.
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Tom Lindbloom commented that from what he has seen as
far as this proposal is concerned he has no problem with
it. Sandra Adams commented that it is very important to
take into consideration what the adjacent property owners
feel about this proposal . Dean Fisher said that the noise
shouldn ' t be any problem as he has ways to buffer this , and
he also commented that the hours of business would be from
8 a .m. to 6 p.m. Bob Davidson commented that he is unsure
of the proposed zoning, but if Fisher were to go with a
PUD Davidson would like to look at this proposal further.
James Clarage asked that Dean Fisher bring a larger scale
drawing clarifying details (such as the buffers ) to the
Public Hearing. Bob Davidson said that the architectural
plan is not needed until the final . George Stewart
advised Dean Fisher should be prepared to answer any
questions that the residents and business owners might have.
Clarence Holdiman commented that he sees no problem with
this as long as all the specifications are met. Anne
Lucietto commented that she agrees with everyone ' s opinion
on this proposal .
Chairman Feltz asked if there was anything else to discuss
that was not on the agenda . Bob Davidson said that Attorney
Kramer was going to be bringing back a rough draft of the
AG-1 Ordinance for April ' s Plan Commission meeting. James
Clarage said that he will be bringing the Comprehensive Plan
to the April meeting. Bob Davidson asked Clerk Albin to
include the Plan Commission index from 1982 to current be
sent to the Plan Commission members . Bob Davidson also
requested that Clerk Albin look into a zoning change which
Plan Commission approved for Jean Brady. Clerk Albin
told Bob Davidson that no record of the zoning change could
be found (as far as City Council approval) and that she would
get with Attorney Kramer regarding this matter.
At this time George Stewart made a motion to adjourn, seconded
by Anne Lucietto. Meeting adjourned at 8 :00 p.m.
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Cheryl A. Albin , City Clerk