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MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE UNITED CITY OF
THE VILLAGE OF YORKVILLE, KENDALL COUNTY, ILLINOIS
HELD AT THE KENDALL COUNTY BOARD ROOM
JULY 15, 1992 7:00 P.M.
The July meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairman Harold
Feltz with the following members in attendance:
Harold Feltz, George Stewart, Clarence Holdiman, Larry Langland
Sandy Adams, Anne Lucietto, Bob Davidson
Absent: Don Ament, Gail Digate, Tom Lindbloom, Kevin Collman ,
Buck Kolkmeyer
Others present: Mayor Ken Kittoe, Don Peck, Pat Clark, Atty. Tom Cross
The minutes from the June meeting were presented for approval. The motion to
approve was made by Bob Davidson; the second was given by George Stewart. Voice
vote carried.
PC92-5 FISHER (PRELIMINARY PLAT)
Bob Davidson asked if the B-2 special use classification to cover this petition
had been passed by the City Council. It was verified that it had.
Richard Missing, interested area resident, voiced an objection to the holding of
this meeting due to the fact that timely notification of the citizens had not
been given as was promised. Chairman Feltz noted that there were problems in
communication; however, there is not a Public Hearing scheduled and notice to
the people was agreed to be given as a courtesy. He asked that one resident
accept the responsibility of being the spokesperson for the group and also see
that any necessary information and future meeting dates be circulated within the
group. Mr. Missing agreed to be the contact person. His name and phone number
will be recorded with the Plan Commission secretary and with the City.
At this point, it was agreed to give Atty. Cross a few minutes to present his
information on the Purcell petition -- PC92-6 -- since no action would be requested.
This petition is still in the preliminary stages and feedback from the commission is
what is being asked for.
The property in question is currently zoned B-3; the petitioner is asking for
R-4. The location is north and west of Pamida. Plans are for owner occupied
condos, not rental units. Structures will be single story, all brick. Tom Cross
stressed that under present zoning some type of business would eventually come
in; keeping the property as a green area for much longer was not realistic.
Bob Davidson asked for consideration for the following: (a) 2-car garges for the
condos and at least single car garages for the studio units; (b) create a second
cut - maybe south into the Pamida lot; (c) a cash donation for the schools above
the normal land cash amount.
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George Stewart asked how runoff would be handled. Both Mr. Stewart and Mr. Langland
agreed with the garage request. Bob Davidson suggested the possibility of a PUD.
Additional points expressed by Plan Commission members included ample parking
areas, sidewalks and a buffer area. One resident in attendance stated that it
would be impossible to guarantee that the development would remain owner occupied;
rental units would eventually exist.
It was agreed that there was still a lot of work to be done with the plans for
this development. Bob Davidson moved to postpone further discussion until the
next meeting; Sandy Adams gave the second. Voice vote carried. It was noted
that Mr. Missing would be contacted prior to the next meeting so that he could
have time to get together with all interested parties and bring back their opinions.
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The discussion on the Fisher preliminary plat resumed. Mr. Fisher presented his
site plan and noted that this was proceeding as a PUD development. The location
of the stores and the parking areas were defined. Mr. Fisher made reference to
the newly amended ordinance to allow this type of facility.
Chairman Feltz read the amendment for the benefit of Plan Commission members:
(703.B4) B-2 special use is amended to include collision repair centers
that are willing to meet the following criteria --
(a) Will meet or exceed all EPA, IPEA and OSHA standards and agree to update
as required by law.
(b) Will install and maintain an approved spray booth, prep decks, sanding
vacs and mixing room to allow safe environmental operation.
(c) Will install parking and designer fencing to allow storage of damaged
vehicles. Parking area to have designated stalls for vehicle storage.
(d) No outdoor parts storage allowed.
(e) Will install landscaping to buffer noise and provide proper appearance.
(f) Will maintain proper license to store and remove hazardous waste
material in a legal and timely manner.
(703.B5) B-2 special use is amended to include muffler repair shops that are
willing to meet the following criteria --
(a) Will meet or exceed all EPA, IEPA and OSHA standards and agree to
upgrade as required by law.
(b) Will install landscaping to provide a buffer for noise and provide a
proper appearance.
(c) No outside parts storage allowed.
(d) No overnight parking allowed.
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George Stewart questioned the enforcement of the stipulations of the ordinance.
Bob Davidson asked about the fencing; Mr. Fisher said it would be wooden with
proper security lighting. He noted that the detail of the fencing as well as all
other aspects of the development would be specifically noted on the final plat.
The parking lot area was explained as to plans for employee, visitor and incoming
business areas.
As requested, there will be no access off Kendall Dr. The area will be maintained
as a green area. Mr. Fisher added that at the present time the water runoff from
all surrounding business dumps onto his property. The Fishers plan to handle
the retention and direct the flow away from the property.
The following comments were made in response to additional questions from the
members of the commission:
IDOT - Mr. Fisher said he had received word from the city engineer that a
preliminary proposal had been submitted to IDOT and was approved.
Deacceleration Lane - 150'
Snow Removal - They plan to use a snow blower and take care of winter problems.
Parking Security - Will be addressed on the final plan.
Green Areas - Will be curbed.
Set Backs - 50' off state right-of-way.
Chairman Feltz asked if there were any comments from citizens present. Mr. MIssing
expressed concern over the possibility of the area becoming an unpleasant site
such as exists between Orange St. and Rt. 126 along Rt. 47. Chairman Feltz
noted the limitations of the Plan Commission and the City in dictating what a
landowner can do with his property. Bob Davidson explained what has happened
in the past with situations where requested zoning was rejected and the matter
was pursued through the courts. He further commented on the protection of the
City's control to be gained by a PUD criteria for development.
Larry Langland made the motion to recommend to the City Council that they accept
the zoning under B-2 special use and the preliminary plat as outlined under
PC92-5 by Dean Fisher. George Stewart gave the second. Roll call vote
carried as follows:
Adams - yes Lucietto - yes Davidson - yes Feltz - yes
Stewart - yes Holdiman - yes Langland - yes
DISCUSSION ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
The comprehensive plan was offered for review and discussion. Opening comments
included questions relative to the area showing 2-1/2 acre lots and why 1-acre
minimum lots extended out so far. It was decided that the outlying areas did
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not need to show lot size requirement. It was also a general opinion that
additional designated manufacturing areas were needed.
After open discussion among the members, it was decided to note the following
changes for consideration at the next meeting:
1. Eliminate the lot size requirements on the outlying areas; simply
show zoning designations such R-1, R-2, Etc.
2. Increase the industrial/manufacturing areas:
A. Northwest area
B. South along Rt. 47 including the area past Legion Rd.
C. East on Rt. 71 between 71 & 126
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Comments from the Chairman . . .
Chairman Feltz requested that the following comment be noted in the minutes
regarding future meetings. It is imperative that the Plan Commission members
receive any relative information early enough to review and come to the meeting
properly prepared. Therefore, if the material is not received by Friday prior
to the scheduled meeting, no meeting will be held. In addition, if any
material is handed out on the night of the meeting, it will not be considered.
Mr. Feltz was asked by Harold Scholle if the Plan Commission was ready to respond
to the suggested plans for the government center. It was agreed that the County
representatives along with the architect would be present at the August meeting
to discuss the matter.
With no further business evident, the motion to adjourn was made by Bob Davidson;
the second was given by Anne Lucietto. Chairman Feltz adjourned the meeting
at 8:45 p.m.
Joanne M. Ellertson, Recording Secretary