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Plan Commission Minutes 1993 09-15-93 MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE UNITED CITY OF THE VILLAGE OF YORKV:ILLE, KENDALL COUNTY, ILLINOIS HELD AT THE KENDALL COUNTY BOARD ROOM SEPTEMBER 15, 1993 7:00 P.M. The September meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairman Harold Feltz with "the following members in attendance: Harold Feltz, George Stewart, Tom Lindbloom, Buck Kolkmeyer; Bob Davidson Others Present: Alderman Jack Jones, Attorney Dan Kramer, City Administrator/ Engineer Don Peck, City Planner Jeff Palmquist and the interested citizens listed on file with the minutes Chairman Feltz asked if there were any additions or corrections to be made on the August Minutes. Hearing none, the motion was made to approve the minutes as typed by George Stewart; seconded Bob Davidson. Voice vote carried. PC93-13 - Cooper Home Furnishings - Kendall Co. A to City A-1 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Feltz called to order the public hearing of PC93-13. Chairman Feltz asked if there was anyone here to represent this property. Don Peck stated this is the 195 acres gross which is located at the northwest corner of Route 34 and Cannonball Trail and they would like to come in as City Ag-1 zoning which is the same as it is right now. They have no specific use for this land right now. Don stated he would take any questions or comments at this time. Nora Vollendorf asked how far down does this property go. Don replied it goes all the way to Joe Gilberts property. Joe Gilbert asked if under City Ag-1 could houses be put on this property. Bob Davidson stated they are allowed three new homes, but it is not in the agreement. Chairman Feltz stated there would not be any houses built on this property with out it being platted. tl Plan Commission Minutes - September 15, 1993 Chairman Feltz asked if there were any further questions or com- ments on PC93-13. Hearing none, - Chairman Feltz called an end to the public hearing of PC93-13. PC93-8 - John Conover - Kendall Co. A to City M-1 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Feltz stated this would be held over to a future Plan Commission meeting. PC93-10 - John Lies - Kendall Co. A to City R-2 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Feltz stated this would be held over to a future Plan Commission meeting. PC93-13 - Cooper Home Furnishings - Kendall Co. A to City A-1 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Feltz called the regular Plan Commission meeting to or- der on PC93-13. Chairman Feltz asked if the City and the City Planner have had conversation with the petitioner in regards to the concept of this property. Don replied that is correct. Chairman Feltz asked for any questions or comments on this property. Hearing none, George Stewart made the motion to approve the an- nexation and rezoning from Kendall Co. A to City A-1. Seconded Tom Lindbloom. Roll call vote: Feltz - yes Stewart yes Lindbloom - yes Kolkmeyer - yes Davidson yes Motioned carried 5-0 PC93-14 - Keith Kuczowski - Preliminary Plat ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Feltz asked if there was anyone here representing this property. Tom Grant stated what you have before you tonight is to review 2 Plan Commission Minutes - September 15, 1993 both the preliminary and final plate of this subdivision. The property is zoned R-2 and has been that way for quite a while. The property is located on th south side of Van Emmon east of Route 47. Tom stated we propose to develop the property into three residen- tial lots. They meet in all aspects the requirements of the zoning ordinance and the subdivision control ordinance. Bob stated the property appears to be land locked. Tom stated they own the property to the east and south, the property would not be land locked. George Stewart asked if there were any other division of lots. Tom replied no it is all one lot. George asked where the sewer comes in at. Tom stated the water is in the street and the sewer comes along the north side. Chairman Feltz asked if the sewer already exists or does it- need to be put in. Tom stated it would have to be put in. George asked if the sidewalks will extend down. Tom stated the sidwalks will go across the front lots and go all the way to the edge. Chairman Feltz asked what the name of the subdivision will be. Tom replied it will be called the Van Emmon Street Addition. Bob asked if the water would remain in the middle of the street. Tom replied no, it's off the easement. Bob stated he thinks you are better off with a 15-20 foot ease- ment to give you enough room and everybody room to work later. George stated otherwise we're tearing up the streets everytime we need to do something. Chairman Feltz asked if there were existing street lights or would they have to be put in. 3 Plan Commission Minutes - September 15, 1993 Jim Olson stated there existing already. Chairman Feltz asked if they were going to put the curb and gut- ter in. Jim Olson stated there not showing the curb and gutter at this time. George asked why not. With the lay out of the land there is some water moving. Bob asked if they so wish they have to ask for a variance no mat- ter what. Tom Grant stated we have an engineers -estimate of what it will cost to put in curb and gutters. We'll give you the money and when your ready to do the rest of the road you can do the curb and gutter at that time. Chairman Feltz stated this is a subdivision therefore it should meet all subdivision requirements. Tom Lindbloom asked if we could act upon this as if they were going to put that in. Bob stated certainly. Tom Grant stated he's asking for no variances and he'll address the issue with the City Council. George Stewart stated the property as I understand it is next to the radiator shop and this is ajoining the radiator property. On July 20, 1988 minutes of the Plan Commission of Yorkville; we authorized and voted on and accepted a B-4 Special Use as follows for an expansion and condition continuation of the radiator repair shop business. One of the special use items specified to rezone and reclassify under this motion was screening and buffer- ing on Van Emmon Street and later on surrounding area that would be visible to adjoining residential land owners. This has not happened. Tom Grant asked if there had been complaints. George replied yes. Tom stated that is news to us. I asked Keith about that tonight, if he has had any complaints about the screening or lack of screening on his property. 4 Plan Commission Minutes - September 15, 1993 Keith Kuczowski replied no. George asked if the City of Yorkville mentioned anything to him about the property's appearance. Keith stated he didn't specifically remember times pointed out other than on a friendly note from J.T about how it was getting out of hand and if he would please clean it up. George replied it was stated as part of the condition for this property. I have extreme concerns that the way this property will be developed is not in the manner I 'm accustomed because these other things have not been followed since 1988. Tom Grant stated they have followed what the ordinance called for. It reads as follows: In the use of the real estate for the temporary storage of wrecked vehicles for transport to the junk yard, the owner shall store such vehicles in such a manner as to not be visible from Van Emmon Road or from adjoining properties. The owner shall to the extent necessary provide screening, fencing or earth and berm on the property to render such vehicles not visible from Van Em- mon Road or adjacent property owners. George stated this needs to be taken care of. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any further questions or com- ments on the preliminary plat of this subdivision. Hearing none, Bob Davidson made the motion to except the prelimi- nary plat of PC93-14 Van Emmon Street Addition without any variances and with more or less red flags on 1) Storm Sewer 2) Curb and Gutter 3) Buffering on' the east property line between lot 3 and existing property. 4) Addition easement along Van Emmon Seconded; Buck Kolkmeyer. Roil call vote: Feltz - yes Stewart - yes Lindbloom - yes Kolkmeyer - yes Davidson - yes Motion carried 5-0 5 Plan Commission Minutes September 15, 1993 PC93-14 - Keith Kuczow8ki Final Plat ----------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Grant stated the final Plat shows a 30' set back line and a 10' Utility easement and thats what we'll discuss with Don Peck as to weather we want that larger or not. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any questions or comments. Hearing none, George Stewart made the motion to except the final Plat of PC93-14 Van Emmon Street Addition with the red flags that are noted on the preliminary Plat of: 1) Storm Sewers 2) Curb and Gutters 3) Buffering on the .east property line between lot 3 and existing property 4) Additional easement along Van Emmon Seconded; Tom Lindbloom. Roll call vote: Feltz - yes Stewart yes Lindbloom - yes Kolkmeyer - yes Davidson yes Motion carried 5-0 PC93-15 - Hatcher - Preliminary Plat ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Feltz asked if there was anyone here to represent this property. Jim Olson stated at the time the Aldi store was built, Randy's property was divided into two lots. The Precision Lube business is to the southerly lot and he now has an offer to purchase the property that lies north of his building and up to the Aldi park- ing lot property. In order to be able to sell that he has'a to have a resubdivision and that is why were here. They property is served by the common driveway easement which is existing there and on the Aldi property. Chairman Feltz asked if there was an easement there for them to use. Jim replied yes. Chairman Feltz asked if the warehouse when your between the first and second one to the north, to get down thru is that an easement also for them to get into the other property. 6 Plan Commission Minutes - September 15, 1993 Jim stated there is an easement across the new lot two to get any where on Randy's property. In addition to that, on the final plat we have a 20' wide easement going along side the detention area. Chairman Feltz stated with this developed there is going to be more run off and the ponds there seemed to hold more water then the others any where around. Are they sealed? Jim stated there just not draining out. Evidentially the outlet silted due to all the construction going on. Bob Davidson stated this property does not come out to the high- way even with an easement. Is there any legal problem with some- thing like this? + Dan Kramer replied it has to butt to a highway or city street or you have to have a recorded easement. Jim Olson stated it does come out and touch Route 47 but the pond is there. Chairman Feltz asked where a property does butt a road but doesn't have it's own access to that road but uses an easement. Let's say I build a house on a lot and get an easement can I use my neighbors driveway? Dan Kramer replied yes but it has to be a recorded easement or a seperate written recorded easement. George Stewart asked if the easement should be shown on the final plat. Dan replied he would recommend it be shown as a common, mutual receptacle easement. George Stewart asked what zoning they were asking for. Randy replied were just asking for the resubdivision with the same zoning of B-3 special use. Jim Olson asked what the limitation of the special use were. Bob Davison replied all zoing under B-3 applied but only the Oil Shop and Tire Shop were the special use. George asked if your neighbor gets upset with you and tries to put up a fence, will you have enough parking for the building your intending to do? 7 Plan Commission Minutes - September 15, 1993 Dan Kramer recommended putting all this in the mutual receptacle agreement. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any further question or com- ments on the preliminary plat of PC93-15 Hatcher. Hearing none, Tom Lindbloom motioned to accept the preliminary plat subject to the City Engineer looking at the following: 1) Detention 2) Easements 3) Parking Seconded; Bob Davidson. Roll call vote: Feltz - yes Stewart - yes Lindbloom - yes Kolkmeyer - yes Davidson - yes Motion carried 5-0 PC93-15 - Hatcher - Final Plat Chairman Feltz asked if there were any further questions or com- ments on the final plat of PC93-15. Hearing none, Tom Lindbloom motioned to except the final plat with the condition of the City Engineer looking at the following: 1) Detetention 2) Easements 3) Parking Seconded; Bob Davidson. Roll call vote: Feltz - yes Stewart - yes Lindbloom - yes Kolkmeyer - yes Davidson - yes Motion carried 5-0 With no further comments evident on the topics listed on tonight's agenda, Chairman Feltz adjourned the meeting at 9:00 P.M. Kim ing, Reco di ecretary 8 PLAN COMMISSIP3j- MEETING 93-i�f c Pc 93•iy/ fh$is X93-cS PEA A&J &nmu VIW t+ a.► /�ar� f{wrt7l�t HAROLD FELTZ y 1 GEORGE STEWART i CLARENCE HOLDIMAN — DON AMENT — -- ! LAWRENCE LANGLAND SANDRA ADAMS -- MICHAEL CROUCH TOM LINDBLOOM �D y KEVIN COLLMAN -- ANNE LUCIETTO 4 — — — BUCK KOLKMEYER BOB DAVIDSON i � �i y ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OTHERS PRESENT: &,7 z"'m f 4 PUBLIC HEARING /SIGN-IN SHEET NAME ADDRESS Ake Ac a