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Plan Commission Minutes 1994 05-18-94 • r � 4 MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE UNITED CITY OF THE VILLAGE OF YORKVILLE, KENDALL COUNTY, ILLINOIS HELD AT THE KENDALL COUNTY BOARD ROOM MAY 18, 1994 7:00 P.M. The May meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by chairman Harold Feltz with the following members in attendance: Harold Feltz, George Stewart, Clarence Holdiman, Don Ament, Lawrence Langland, Sandra Adams, Michael Crouch, Anne Lucietto; Greg Kraber Others Present: Alderman Prochaska, Attorney T.J. Hiles, Alderman Baker, Alderman Jones,Acting Administator/Police Chief Anton Graff and consulting engineer Bill Schmanski. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any additions or corrections to be made to the April minutes. Hearing none, the motion was made to approve the minutes as typed by Larry Langland; seconded Sandra Adams. Voice vote carried. Chairman Feltz stated the first item he would like to discuss is not on tonight's agenda and that is the checklist. Chairman Feltz read the Planning Commission checklist in it's entirety. (See attached) Doc Davis stated he would like to discuss the covenants of property. Chairman Feltz stated that was something the Planning Commission did not have any control on and would like to continue with the zoning checklist. Doc Davis stated he would like to take this further. Chairman Feltz stated no, it was out of the Planning Commission control. PC93-21 - Dwyer - Preliminary Plan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chairman Feltz asked if there was anyone here representing this property. Jack Kusak with McClure Engineering stated the Planning Commission has the preliminary plan in front of them it consists of 56 lots on page 1 and 155 lot in total. which in phase one 17 lots will be duplex lots. We are proposing an east and west detention areas and running water and sewer to those. Jack stated the buffer will be along Route 71 what that buffer will be we're not sure of yet. We have also dedicated a pedestrian walkway. The right of ways are proposed at 66'and the rest of the street at 55'. Jack stated we have had the intersection study and drainage report study done by Kendall County. Larry Langland asked how the easement is going to be handled for AT&T. Jack stated that AT&T has abandoned there easement. Chairman Feltz asked if there were burms on Route 71. Jack replied there will be burms there. Jeff Palmquist stated we might consider a pedestrian walkway through lot 7& 8. George Stewart asked if there was going to be a park. Jeff Palmquist stated maybe the Recreation Department should be asked how they would like to handle the park. Alderman Prochaska stated they did like the idea of having the park be centralized instead of all over the place. Jeff Palmquist stated if we really want a park it should be lot 136, 137, 138 or something substantial that could be a park. Alderman Prochaska stated maybe the Park Board should look at this to see exactly what they would like. Chairman Feltz asked if we needed to let the Park Commission look at this. Planning Commission board members replied yes. Bill Schmanski stated the detention pond is an issue that still need to be resolved and the right of ways should probably be dedicated. George Stewart stated he does not like the clustering of duplexes. Chairman Feltz asked if there would be garages with the duplexes. Jack replied yes. Chairman Feltz stated he has come up with eleven things to be reviewed, they are as follows: 1. Lot depth 2. Easement for the walk 3. Parks 4. Volume of detention 5. Dedicated right of ways on the paths 6. IDOT review 7. Water main extended thru lot 7& 8 8. Lights at Route 71 9. Duplexes with garage 10. Sewer capacity 11. Burming on Route 71 Chairman Feltz stated these things need to be resolved and look at the preliminary at a later date. Chairman Feltz stated his recommendation would be to table it and look at it after these items have been resolved. PC93-23 - Development Resources Inc. - Final Plat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chairman Feltz asked if there was anyone here representing this property. Ken Baldwin stated we have met the ordinances of the City of Yorkville, we have met the criteria of the Planned Unit Development Agreement, and we have met the criteria of the Subdivision Control Ordinance. Michael Capp stated it has been a pleasure to working with the Planning Commission, City Council and the other committees. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any questions or comments regarding this final plat. Doc Davis stated he would like to see some type of buffer between his property and Development Resources property. The heavy equipment is scaring the horses and he does not want to become the center of attention for children who see he has horses here. T.J. Hiles stated he thought Dan Kramer had mentioned something about a burm and not a buffer. Chairman Feltz stated if the City has been working on this burming/buffering issue, we should go ahead and let the City handle this. Chairman Feltz asked Bill Schmanski if he would advise to us to approve it subject to engineering. Bill replied yes. Chairman Feltz asked Jeff Palmquist if he would advise to us to approve this. Jeff replied yes it is consist to what we've seen before. Jeff asked if they are still planning on doing a landscape plan. Michael Capp replied yes. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any further questions or comments on this parcel. Hearing none, the motion was made to recommend to the City Council the approval of the final plat of PC93-23 unit one subject to the engineering, landscape plan and subject to what the City Council wants to do with the burm/fence by George Stewart; seconded Michael Crouch. Roll call vote: Feltz - yes Stewart - yes Holdiman - yes Ament - yes Langland -yes Adams-yes Crouch-yes Lucietto -yes Kraber-yes Motion carried 9-0 PC94-4 - Countryside Center - Preliminary Plan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chairman Feltz asked if there was anyone here representing this property. Jim Olson stated there will be no access from lot 80 to Boomer Road as per the Planning Commission request. Chairman Feltz stated on the last preliminary plan last month you showed us water and sewer, you have not done that on this one. Jim Olson stated they are still doing the final engineering and all the easements are still where they were shown before. Chairman Feltz asked if we were resolved on the issue of parks. Dallas Ingemunson stated they intend to follow the ordinance and do exactly what the ordinance says. Jeff Palmquist asked if there is going to be improvements to Boomer Road. Jim Olson stated it would be upgraded. Chairman Feltz asked if both sides will be curbed. Jim stated he will get estimates on this. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any further questions or comments on this parcel. Hearing none, the motion was made to recommend to City Council the approval of PC94-4 subject to final review by the CityEngineer, Boomer Road curbing, landscape plan and the Park Board final review of parks by Larry Langland; seconded Greg Kraber. Roll call vote: Feltz - yes Stewart - yes Holdiman - yes Ament - yes Langland -yes Adams-yes Crouch-yes Lucietto -yes Kraber-yes Motion carried 9-0 PC94-9 - OSNB Trust#5358/Wherli - Preliminary Plan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chairman Feltz stated they are not ready for the preliminary plan however I believe we still need to give them some input on this parcel. John Bajor stated this subdivision consists of 148 single family homes and 17 duplexes. We are currently negotiation with Inland on the road access so we are not land locked. John stated there will be an easement on Van Emmon. John stated he would like to take any questions or comments at this time. George Stewart stated he is concerned about having that many duplexes on this plan. George asked if we should see the covenant with these P.U.D's. Jeff stated it's not unreasonable to request this information. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any further questions or comments on this parcel. Hearing none, Chairman Feltz thanked John Bajor for coming. Review Updated Residential Zoning Criteria ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ JeffPalmquist stated sometime ago the Council asked us to work with them at possibly reviewing the residential zoning classes and criteria for any deffencies, looking at multi-family and single family. Through these discussions we've posed a number of cinereos. Do we need a smaller single family lot size, a larger and so forth. And the council was unamious about not wanting to add a 10,000. minimum single family lot class. They want to keep there minimum single family lot size at 12,000 sq ft. But they also felt there was a need for an 18,000 sq ft lot minimum class. It's a way of getting a variety of lot sizes. The Council felt this is the way they wanted to go but wanted to get the Planning Commission feeling on it also. Jeff stated he would like to hear any questions or comments on this at this time. Chairman Feltz asked what would this be called. Jeff replied probably RE for Residential Estate. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any questions or comments pertaining to this. Hearing none, the motion was made to recommend to the City Council to approve the Single FamilyCriteria by George Stewart; seconded Anne Lucietto. Roll call vote: Feltz - yes Stewart - yes Holdiman -yes Ament - yes Langland -yes Adams-yes Crouch-yes Lucietto-yes Kraber-yes Motion carried 9-0 • PLAN COMMISSION MEETING P/A PC 93 PC(&_ _ PC _5/ PCCe,W,,4 PC PC HAROLD FELTZ GEORGE STEWART CLARENCE HOLDIMAN DON AMENT LAWRENCE LANGLAND SANDRA ADAMS MICHAEL CROUCH. 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