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Plan Commission Minutes 1994 09-21-94 MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE UNITED CITY OF THE VILLAGE OF YORKVILLE, KENDALL COUNTY, ILLINOIS HELD AT THE KENDALL COUNTY BOARD ROOM SEPTEMBER 21, 1994 7:04 P.M. The September meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairman Harold Feltz with the following members in attendance: Harold Feltz, Don Ament, Lawrence Langland, Tom Lindbloom, Ralph Pfister, Anne Lucietto, and Dave Dockstader. Others Present: Building Inspector Bill Dettmer, Attorney Dan Kramer, City Planner Jeff Palmquist, Administrator Jim Nanninga, Consulting Engineer Bill Schmansid, and Aldermen Jeff Baker and Art Prochaska. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any additions or corrections to be made to the August Minutes. Hearing none, the motion was made to approve the minutes as typed by Lawrence Holdiman, seconded by Ralph Pfister. PUBLIC HEARINGS PC 94-17 Chairman Feltz opened the Public Hearing regarding request to annex and rezone from Kendall Co. R-3 to City P.U.D. The property is located on the south side of Route 71 between Rt. 47 and Rt. 126. One parcel is 7 acres and the second parcel is .9 acre. The petitioners are the Niles/Oliver Partnership and the owners are Charles & Mary Doetschman. PC 94-18 Request to rezone from City R-1 to city P.U.D. The property is located on the south side of Rt. 71 between Rt. 47 and Rt. 126. The parcel contains 38.7 acres. The petitioners are the Niles/Oliver Partnership and the owners are Charles & Mary Doetschman. Jim Olson asked that PC 9417 and PC 94-18 be considered at the same time, because they were combining the properties to be one parcel. Chairman Feltz agreed, and would now call this petitioner PC 94-17& PC 94-18. 1 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes September 21, 1994 Gregg Gabel, Vice President of G.D.L. of Montgomery, discussed the land plan of these parcels. He stated that the project is a 38-acre parcel, located on the south side of Rt. 71 approximately 1/8 mile east of Rt. 47 and west of the intersection of Rt. 71 and Rt. 126. The existing zoning on the property within the community is R-1. They are seeking annexation (PC 94-17) to be R-1, but to ultimately rezone it as a P.U.D. for a mixed residential use in accordance to a comprehensive plan, which has not yet been approved, but is under consideration by the community. Some existing features of the parcel is a wooded area on the south-west portion of the property, the Commonwealth Edison right of- way on the eastern portion of the property, a single-family county subdivision on the western part of the property and the Greenwald Homestead is to the east of the property. The comprehensive plan hopes to save the significant forest area, and this would be linked to a regional bike trail in the Commonwealth Edison line. The comprehensive plan says in lieu of this consideration, maybe there is some trade-offs for density. Perhaps a density up to seven units per acre would be a reasonable land use for this area. A concept-sketch showed two land-uses of duplex lots and single-family, attached development. They are intended to be owner-occupied, single-story buildings. Maintenance would be provided by a homeowner's association. The duplex lot minimum size, is 90X140, and the average lot size is 16,200 square feet. They would like to pattern the development after Fernwood Gardens in Oswego. Off the public streets, privately maintained driveway courts would serve the individual units . The lots along Rt. 71 allow for a landscape buffer. There is only one road cut on Rt. 71. The total area is 36.4 acres with 35 acres net when you take out the Rt. 71 area. Thus a density of 3.4 units per acre. The amount of open space is 9.5 acres. The density excluding open space is 4.7 dwelling units per acre. The waste would go to Rt. 47 temporarily until the future interceptor is built at the Commonwealth Edison right-of-way. Harold Feltz asked if all of the adjacent property owners were notified, and it was stated they were. Continuing, Mr. Gabel said management and maintenance of the open space could be managed by a Homeowner's Association, or a Yorkville Park Board, or by the Kendall County Forest Preserve. Jeff Palmquist stated that before anything could be done, the fact that trees of significant value exist must be established; then density could be discussed. Dick Young would be looking at the property, and Jim Nanninga had a name of a State Forester who could look at the property also. Mr. Palmquist said another option would be to have the OliverlNNes Group fund the study to give to the city. Chairman Feltz asked for any questions or comments regarding this petitioner. 2 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes September 21, 1994 There being no comments from anyone present, Chairman Feltz recessed the Public Hearing for PC94-17 and PC 94-18. OLD BUSINESS PC 94-9 Wehrli/Green Briar-Final Plat. Mr. John Shumacker, representing Wehrli/Green Briar asked if there were any questions. Chairman Feltz asked if they had roads lined up to the adjoining subdivision. Mr. Schumacker replied no. Chairman Feltz stated that there was no need then to proceed with this petition at this point. Tom Lindbloom requested a simplified concept-sketch, showing on one piece of paper, not six, how this subdivision ties into adjoining properties. Tom Lindbloom made the motion to table PC 94-9 Wehrli/Green Briar-Final Plat. Seconded by Don Ament . Roll Call Vote: Lawrence Langland - Yes Anne Lucietto - Yes Tom Lindbloom - Yes Ralph Pfister - Yes Dave Dockstader - Yes Don Ament - Yes Harold Feltz - Yes Motion carried 7-0. Chairman Feltz stated that the Plan Commission, therefore, recommend to the City Council they wait until there is better definition of the adjoining Property NEW BUSINESS PC 94-17 & PC 94-18 Chairman Feltz read a letter from Jim Nanninga, dated September 15, 1994. The letter recommended the Plan Commission wait for a vote due to many outstanding issues. Chairman Feltz agreed that there was not enough information for a vote. Tom Lindbloom stated that he had a problem with the townhome units having only one street going in and no way out. If there would be a truck blocking the entrance, 60 units would be blocked. Cul-de-sacs make the situation better, but generally such density is not located on a cul-de-sac. Ralph Pfister expressed concern over the usage of the Commonwealth Edison right-of- way. Dan Kramer said there was a written lease from Commonwealth Edison giving the right to a trail, but refusing to give up ownership of the area. Much discussion was held about sewage capacity. Ralph Pfister said with all the growth, the sewage system will be taxed greatly and these type of large developments must be 3 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes September 21, 1994 watched very closely. Tom Lindbloom made a motion to table PC 94-17 R 94-18011ver/Niles Partnership until additional information is received. Seconded by Don Ament. Roll Call Vote: Clarence Holdiman - Yes Don Ament - Yes Dave Dockstader - Yes Anne Lucietto - Yes Tom Lindbloom - Yes Harold Feltz - Yes Ralph Pfister - Yes Motion carried 7-0. PC 94-19 Robin & Deborah Stuck-Kendall Co./Rezone from Kendall County A-1 to R4 Planned Residential Development. Attomey Tim McCann, representing the Stuck family, was back to present a redraft of a drawing of a 41-acre parcel divided into 4 lots for the purpose of allowing the family members to each own a lot in this development. The Kendall County Plan Commission said they are in favor of the idea, but had a few requests. They did not want the road to be public. In case Yorkville would later on like to have this parcel be a part of the village, a compromise was suggested to have the center-line reserved from east to west through the middle of the parcel. The building set-back lines are 65 feet and enacted now in case in the future it becomes a public road. There is a 40 foot dedication along Immanuel Road, and a 10 foot easement for a bicycle or pedestrian way along the eastem portion adjacent to Immanuel Road is provided. The county requested and they agreed there would be no direct vehicle access from either lot 1 or 2 onto Immanuel Road . All road traffic would come off the private road. There will be a tum-around area of sufficient width and depth to allow any vehicle to turn around in the cul-de-sac at the end. There will be a covenant to provide large markings to identify the houses. Tom Lindbloom asked if the 65 foot set-back lines will be extended all the way to the western lot. Mr. McCann replied they would. Chairman Feltz asked if there were any other questions or comments. There being none, Tom Lindbloom made a motion to approve the request to go to the four 10-acre lots from 1-1 to R-1 planned residential development, based on the extension that was talked about, of the center line going to the western edge of the property and the note that they would annex when they become adjacent. It appears that at this point there's no easements they would need. Seconded by Ralph Pfister. 4 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes September 21, 1994 Roll Call Vote: Dave Dockstader - Yes Ralph Pfister - Yes Tom Lindbloom - Yes Don Ament - Yes Lawrence Langland - Yes Anne Lucietto - Yes Harold Feltz - Yes Motion carried 7-0. PC 9424 North Bridge Street Subdivision/Replat of City Owned Lots. Jim Olson, the surveyor representing this petition, said this property is part of the city next to the city offices. The home on this property has been rented for several years, and now it was time to sell off the house. There is enough room to provide for a vacant lot north of the house, south of the Apple Tree Courts , and south of the house there is another 87-foot wide lot. This property has been platted and is represented as city- owned property to become a 3-lot subdivision with one house already one a lot. There have been discussions with L D.O.T. and driveway permits would be allowed onto Rt. 47. There is a water main in front of the property, but sewer would have to be accessed under Rt. 47 to get to the line on the east side of the street. The city asked that since this was such a simple request that the preliminary and the final be reviewed at the same time. Dave Dockstader made the motion to approve both the preliminary plot and the final plot of part of lots 7 and 8 Gale's Second Addition to the Village of Bristol and Part of the Southwest Quarter of Section 28-37-7 Yorkville, Kendall County Illinois. It's called North Bridge Street Subdivision. Roll call vote: Clarence Holdiman - Yes Don Ament - Yes Dave Dockstader - Yes Harold Feltz - Yes Anne Lucietto - Yes Ralph Pfister - Yes Tom Lindbloom - Yes Motion carried 7-0. PUBLIC HEARING City of Yorkville Comprehensive Plan Jeff Palmquist, wanting to focus on the land plan, explained some recent changes. At the north end, there is more industrial land along the west side of Rt. 47, north of the railroad tracks on both sides of Corniels. Proceeding south, on the west side there were two areas of medium density eliminated. There was also the change of the elimination of any attached or medium/high density along the collector south of the river on the east side. 5 -mss, Plan Commission Meeting Minutes September 21, 1994 Much discussion was held concerning park locations, commercial areas and density. Mr. Feltz asked for any questions or comments regarding the Public Hearing for the City of Yorkville Comprehensive Plan. Hearing none, Chairman Feltz closed the public hearing. ADDITIONAL BUSINESS City of Yorkville Comprehensive Plan Anne Lucietto recommended the Comprehensive Plan be approved by City Council as presented. Seconded by Ralph Pfister. Voice Vote: carried. There being no further business the meeting was adjourned. wo.nlz e E. 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