Plan Commission Minutes 1989 12-20-89 MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE UNITED CITY OF
THE VILLAGE OF YORKVILLE, KENDALL COUNTY, ILLINOIS
HELD AT THE KENDALL COUNTY BOARD ROOM
DECEMBER 20, 1989 7:00 P.M.
The December meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairman Harold
Feltz with the following members present:
Harold Feltz, George Stewart, Don Ament, Larry Langland, Sandy Adams,
Ken Johnson, Dave Greiter
Absent members: Clarence Holdiman, Larry Bretthauer, Kevin Collman,
Don Schoenfielder, Dan Laube
Others present: Mayor Davidson, Jim Clarage, Attorney Tom Grant,
Petitioner John Tootelian. (Alderman Radke arriving later)
The minutes from both the October and November Plan Commission meetings were
approved as presented. The motion was made by Don Ament, the second by Sandy Adams.
The meeting proceeded with the presentation of the petition by Attorney Grant.
PC89-41 -- KENDALL COUNTY - SPECIAL USE RE: PRIVATE PICNIC FACILITY WITH OUTDOOR
AMUSEMENT ACTIVITIES - RT. 71 - JOHN TOOTELIAN
Attorney Grant stated that the petition had been presented to the County on a
preliminary basis and would be going back with City Plan Commission recommendations.
He asked that a video of the Lemont facility previously operated by Mr. Tootelian
be viewed by Commission members to give them an idea of the type of programs
offered. The land in Lemont was owned by a Church organization and leased to
Mr. Tootelian; it had recently been sold to land developers. What is planned is
the same type of facility on the property on Rt. 71 next to Harris Forest Preserve.
A map was presented showing where facilities and buildings would be located; no
major land modification is planned. Attorney Grant summarized the main concerns
of the County as being with parking area, food dispensing area, and location of
buildings to be constructed.
The normal clientele of the picnic programs comes from reasonably large companies
looking for locations to hold their respective functions. The average picnic would
include 700-900 people. Activities would be on weekends only. The only exception
would be fall square dance and hay ride parties. Amusement facilities would in-
clude three adult and three kiddie rides. All functions would be private; no
park facilities would be open to the public. It was also stated that the park
activities would not. cause adverse traffic problems.
Regarding the liquor license, it was stated that the license was not required.
Beer would be provided by the companies sponsoring the functions and will be
available only during the hours of the picnic (noon to 4:00 p.m. ) No beer would
be sold.
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The video was then presented and questions were raised to how the visitors were
admitted to the park, number of employees, minimum attendance. The question of
insurance responsibility was asked by Dave Greiter; it was verified that any
necessary insurance was provided by both the sponsoring company and Mr. Tootelian.
Further discussion included how circus performances were booked and handled, first
aid provision, and noise level. It was stated that noise would not be a problem.
Amusement activities would be well to the back of the property. Attorney Grant
noted that there were no apparent problems with soil, food service, or septic
use for the number of persons planned. The property being considered is much like
the facility in Lemont formerly operated by the petitioner.
It was verified that the Special Use Ordinance would be specific to requirements
for time, liquor, parking, and all other concerns. Mr. Clarage stated that he
could attest to the fact that the Lemont facility caused no adverse problems for
the community. It was further stated that the Liquor Control Office in Chicago
had been contacted with regard to the dispensing of beer to make certain that no
license was required.
Other points of discussion included:
Streets -- would be gravel, not paved
Pavilion size -- 60 x 90
Fire Department access -- no apparent problems uncovered
Ambulance service -- low percentage of injuries; first aid personnel would
be required at all functions
Clientele -- most likely would come from outside the community
Zoning -- Ag special use
Chairman Feltz expressed concern with the septic situation. Mayor Davidson stated
that present plans for property annexation in the vicinity of the property in
question may bring city sewer and water close enough to ask the owner to hook up
to the facilities and to request annexation. Attorney Grant questioned the
appropriation of the expense involved in the hook up. The present issue is for
zoning -- the issue of sewer/septic will need to be addressed at the proper time;
the concern is that the issue be noted as a topic of discussion at this time.
Mr. Clarage gave his opinion that the overall project is acceptable if all
concerns are fully specified and outlined. Chairman Feltz agreed.
Discussion followed on the sewer/septic situation. The petitioner was not in
favor of being forced to accomplish hook-up immediately on the sewer becoming
available. Attorney Grant discussed the tremendous expense that would be involved
and suggested that a 5-year time frame would be a fair requirement.
Mr. Tootelian was asked if he would take up residency on the property. He stated
that he would not; the property, however, would be well protected with an
alarm system and possibly guard dogs. In answer to Mr. Tootelian's question on
the continued use of a well instead of city water when available, Mayor Davidson
said the standard conditional clause to provide mandatory access when adjacent
properties are in favor may be included in the agreement.
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Attorney Grant summarized that the concerns expressed by the Plan Commission were
the same as those voiced by the County with the addition of the sewer question
and the annexation when contiguous clause.
Larry Langland made the motion to recommend approval of the Special Use zoning
with the inclusion and clarification of special use data, the standard annexation
clause, and that when city sewer becomes available, hook up would be accomplished
within five years. The second was made by Don Ament. Roll call vote carried as
follows:
Ament - yes Langland - yes Adams - yes Johnson - yes
Greiter - yes Feltz - yes Stewart - yes
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 8:00 p.m.
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Joanne M. Ellertson
Recording Secretary