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Plan Commission Minutes 1989 12-20-89 MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE UNITED CITY OF THE VILLAGE OF YORKVILLE, KENDALL COUNTY, ILLINOIS HELD AT THE KENDALL COUNTY BOARD ROOM DECEMBER 20, 1989 7:00 P.M. The December meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairman Harold Feltz with the following members present: Harold Feltz, George Stewart, Don Ament, Larry Langland, Sandy Adams, Ken Johnson, Dave Greiter Absent members: Clarence Holdiman, Larry Bretthauer, Kevin Collman, Don Schoenfielder, Dan Laube Others present: Mayor Davidson, Jim Clarage, Attorney Tom Grant, Petitioner John Tootelian. (Alderman Radke arriving later) The minutes from both the October and November Plan Commission meetings were approved as presented. The motion was made by Don Ament, the second by Sandy Adams. The meeting proceeded with the presentation of the petition by Attorney Grant. PC89-41 -- KENDALL COUNTY - SPECIAL USE RE: PRIVATE PICNIC FACILITY WITH OUTDOOR AMUSEMENT ACTIVITIES - RT. 71 - JOHN TOOTELIAN Attorney Grant stated that the petition had been presented to the County on a preliminary basis and would be going back with City Plan Commission recommendations. He asked that a video of the Lemont facility previously operated by Mr. Tootelian be viewed by Commission members to give them an idea of the type of programs offered. The land in Lemont was owned by a Church organization and leased to Mr. Tootelian; it had recently been sold to land developers. What is planned is the same type of facility on the property on Rt. 71 next to Harris Forest Preserve. A map was presented showing where facilities and buildings would be located; no major land modification is planned. Attorney Grant summarized the main concerns of the County as being with parking area, food dispensing area, and location of buildings to be constructed. The normal clientele of the picnic programs comes from reasonably large companies looking for locations to hold their respective functions. The average picnic would include 700-900 people. Activities would be on weekends only. The only exception would be fall square dance and hay ride parties. Amusement facilities would in- clude three adult and three kiddie rides. All functions would be private; no park facilities would be open to the public. It was also stated that the park activities would not. cause adverse traffic problems. Regarding the liquor license, it was stated that the license was not required. Beer would be provided by the companies sponsoring the functions and will be available only during the hours of the picnic (noon to 4:00 p.m. ) No beer would be sold. . 1 ♦ A 4 PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES 12-20-89 PAGE 2 The video was then presented and questions were raised to how the visitors were admitted to the park, number of employees, minimum attendance. The question of insurance responsibility was asked by Dave Greiter; it was verified that any necessary insurance was provided by both the sponsoring company and Mr. Tootelian. Further discussion included how circus performances were booked and handled, first aid provision, and noise level. It was stated that noise would not be a problem. Amusement activities would be well to the back of the property. Attorney Grant noted that there were no apparent problems with soil, food service, or septic use for the number of persons planned. The property being considered is much like the facility in Lemont formerly operated by the petitioner. It was verified that the Special Use Ordinance would be specific to requirements for time, liquor, parking, and all other concerns. Mr. Clarage stated that he could attest to the fact that the Lemont facility caused no adverse problems for the community. It was further stated that the Liquor Control Office in Chicago had been contacted with regard to the dispensing of beer to make certain that no license was required. Other points of discussion included: Streets -- would be gravel, not paved Pavilion size -- 60 x 90 Fire Department access -- no apparent problems uncovered Ambulance service -- low percentage of injuries; first aid personnel would be required at all functions Clientele -- most likely would come from outside the community Zoning -- Ag special use Chairman Feltz expressed concern with the septic situation. Mayor Davidson stated that present plans for property annexation in the vicinity of the property in question may bring city sewer and water close enough to ask the owner to hook up to the facilities and to request annexation. Attorney Grant questioned the appropriation of the expense involved in the hook up. The present issue is for zoning -- the issue of sewer/septic will need to be addressed at the proper time; the concern is that the issue be noted as a topic of discussion at this time. Mr. Clarage gave his opinion that the overall project is acceptable if all concerns are fully specified and outlined. Chairman Feltz agreed. Discussion followed on the sewer/septic situation. The petitioner was not in favor of being forced to accomplish hook-up immediately on the sewer becoming available. Attorney Grant discussed the tremendous expense that would be involved and suggested that a 5-year time frame would be a fair requirement. Mr. Tootelian was asked if he would take up residency on the property. He stated that he would not; the property, however, would be well protected with an alarm system and possibly guard dogs. In answer to Mr. Tootelian's question on the continued use of a well instead of city water when available, Mayor Davidson said the standard conditional clause to provide mandatory access when adjacent properties are in favor may be included in the agreement. r fees. r PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES 02-20-89 PAGE 3 Attorney Grant summarized that the concerns expressed by the Plan Commission were the same as those voiced by the County with the addition of the sewer question and the annexation when contiguous clause. Larry Langland made the motion to recommend approval of the Special Use zoning with the inclusion and clarification of special use data, the standard annexation clause, and that when city sewer becomes available, hook up would be accomplished within five years. The second was made by Don Ament. Roll call vote carried as follows: Ament - yes Langland - yes Adams - yes Johnson - yes Greiter - yes Feltz - yes Stewart - yes The meeting was adjourned at approximately 8:00 p.m. �2e-x'� X klt�' Joanne M. Ellertson Recording Secretary