Plan Commission Minutes 1988 06-15-88 ~ MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE UNITED CITY OF THE
VILLAGE OF YORKVILLE, KENDALL COUNTY, ILLINOIS, HELD
AT THE KENDALL COUNTY BOARD ROOM
JUNE 15, '1988 7:00 P.M.
The regular meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairman
Harold Feltz with the following members in attendance:
Chairman Feltz, Clarence Holdiman, Don Ament, Larry Langland, Mary Kay Price,
Larry Bretthauer, and Dave Greiter. Absent were George Stewart, James
Stafford, Rick Doetschman, Kevin Collman, and Don Schoenfielder.
Others present included Attorneys Tom Cross, Tom Grant, and Win Wehrli;
Alderman Bill Radke.
Minutes of the May meeting were reviewed and approved. The motion to approve was
made by Don Ament, the second by Clarence Holdiman, and the approval carried by
voice vote.
PC88-25 - PRELIMINARY & FINAL PLATS Prairie Lands Subdivision - Unit 2
Spring/Quinsey.
Attorney Tom Cross presented the petition -- he stated that it was his under-
standing that the concerns of the Plan Commission included the problem with the
cul-de-sac, access to the property to the north, and the extension of the sewer
and water north on McHugh Road.
Changes were made as follows:
1. There would be a street running north -- to be called Fremont.
2. The cul-de-sac would be eliminated. A dedicated easement would
be provided for future extension of Center Street.
3. Water and sewer would be extended to the northern boundary of the
property along McHugh Road.
It was stated that the engineering plans were under consideration between Jim
Olson's office and Fran Klaas. Attorney Cross stated that he felt that all
issues had been addressed as suggested by the Plan Commission. A brief discussion
on the sewer lines and storm water runoff followed. The motion was then made by
Larry Langland to recommend approval of the preliminary and final plats of the
Prairie Lands Subdivision-Unit 2. The second was made by Mary Kay Price.
Dave Greiter questioned whether the streets had to be put in before any
building was started. It was stated that it was not necessary to complete the
streets to begin building, but that no occupancy permits would be issued until the
completion.
The motion carried by roll call vote as follows:
Feltz - yes Holdiman - yes Ament - yes Langland - yes Price - yes
Bretthauer - yes Greiter - yes
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PC88-26 - PRELIMINARY PLAT Woodworth Subdivision - Unit 2 - Quinsey & E. Main
Attorney Tom Grant presented the petition for Dale Woodworth. He stated
that the original intent was not to proceed as quickly with the plan, but that
the petitioner had determined that it would be timely to do so now. The plan
now before the Plan Commission is basically the same as the previous plan which
had been well received by members of the Commission.
The engineering work is shown on the plan. It was stated that the lift
station for the sewer line as originally planned was no longer being considered
due to potential future problems developing. The subdivision would include a total
of 64 lots of which 63 would be buildable. The plan was to develop in stages --
the first planned development to be the lots along Quinsey Road. No variances to
the subdivision ordinance would be asked for.
The city council had asked that Attorney Grant notify the property owners
who had previously been given notice for the Public Hearing back in November. He
stated that he had complied with the request by sending letters to each owner. (One
landowner present submitted his letter to be filed with the minutes. )
Chairman Feltz referred to the November meeting at which time it was suggested
to extend one or more streets and also the sewer and water lines. Tom Grant stated
that the present objective was to not extend Main Street, but to force the traffic
flow in the direction of Quinsey. Chairman Feltz agreed but expressed concern for
property to the east.
Dave Greiter expressed concern regarding the capacity of the 8" sewer line
on E. Main St. It was stated that this had been a constant concern over the past
few months. The engineering consultant stated that it was his opinion the new
development would bring the capacity to 90% of maximum. It was stated by Dale
Woodworth that sometime in the future there would be a need for an interceptor
line. He further stated that it was his opinion that the impact fees should be
applied to the sewer interceptor. Further concern was expressed for the usage of
monies collected from impact fees and how the city was presently applying it.
Larry Langland stated that it would be advisable to see something in the way
of assurance from Fran K'laas in regard to sewer system capacity. The consultant of
engineering stated that Mr. Klaas agreed with the opinion as stated.
Attorney Grant stated that Mr. Woodworth was considering donating the land
along the river for a park area. Also, it was stated that he had funded a large
portion of the lift station and had complied with all requests of the city in
regard to the first plat presented. This was affirmed by Larry Langland.
Chairman Feltz asked if any of the public in attendance wished to speak. Mr.
Gawn asked to be recognized and stated his views on the lift station question. He
stated that if they should anticipate coming down along the river with lift stations
or start to come below the level of the sewers of Yorkville, he would request that
the EPA intervene and give an opinion.
Dave Greiter discussed traffic flow with Mr. Woodworth; Larry Langland restated
his position on the sewer capacity statement of assurance.
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Larry Langland made the motion to recommend the approval of the Preliminary
Plat based on the recommendation of the city engineer that there is adequate sewer
capacity. The second was by Don Ament. The motion carried by roll call vote:
Holdiman - yes Ament - yes Langland - yes Price - yes
Bretthauer - yes Greiter - yes Feltz - yes
PC88-27 - PRELIMINARY PLAT - White Oaks Farm Subdivision - Fox Road - (Preliminary
Plat & Covenants Enclosed
Mr. Wehrli stated the following changes to the plat in compliance with the
requests of the Plan Commission at the last meeting:
1. Emergency access to the pond area is now provided.
2. Sidewalks on the north side of Fox Road are shown.
3. There is a 30' setback on the river front lots.
a. All cul-de-sacs have been enlarged to 50' radius to accomodate any
emergency vehicles.
5. The location and size of the water main along Fox Road are shown accurately.
6. All changes to the existing sanitary sewer are shown..
(It was stated that there had been a meeting with the Mayor to discuss
the sewer system. )
7. The water main has been extended west between lots 15 & 16.
8. The jogging path will loop south of the tracks.
It was stated that it was his opinion that the changes listed were the items of main
concern at the last meeting.
Larry Langland stated that the questions on the private road had not been
addressed. Mr. Wehrli answered that the difficulty was in dealing with the Burlington
Railroad. He feels that the legal responsibility for the back lots would fall with
the owners -- the covenants for those lots would be very specific. Mr. Langland
further asked if the insurability of those lots had been checked into; Mr. Wehrli
stated that he had not checked with the title company as yet. Mr. Langland said
that he disagreed with the idea of private roads within the city.
The sewer system for the back lots was explained by Mike Mueller. It was
stated that at this time it was planned that the landowners would be responsible
for providing individual pumps. Mr. Langland disagreed. It was further stated
that the plan was acceptable to the city engineers. An explanation of the entire
outline of the sewer system followed; the entire site would be serviced by a
gravity type system; the exception would be the area to the back.
Regarding the access road to the river lots, it was stated that a turn around
would be provided. There would also be fire hydrants provided for the back lots.
Chairman Feltz commented that the covenants were specifically outlined. Alderman
Radke asked about the inclusion of the covenants governing the private road; these
would be separate covenants and would be added later according to Mr. Wehrli.
In response to a question regarding the barn, Mr. Wehrli stated that it would
probably be refurbished and stay. The open area that would include the house and
pool area is still under research and discussion.
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Larry Langland questioned the legality of the private road. Mr. Wehrli stated
that this was an unanswered question. In regard to the road and crossing, he
said that they would comply with whatever direction the Burlington suggested.
Mr. Langland maintained his position of not having a private road. Mr. Wehrli
emphasized the importance of the covenants of the homeowners association in
matters of this type. His argument of keeping the road private was as follows:
As a private road a crossing can be provided by licensing from the
Burlington; if public, a hearing and lengthy application time is required.
He included that any related problems with a private road were the sole
responsibility of the homeowners.
Chairman Feltz stated that the main issues were the private road and the lift
station in the same area. Mr. Wehrli stated that this had been discussed with
the Mayor and the city engineer and that it was agreed upon. Chairman Feltz stated
that the Plan Commission had not been advised of the decision to date.
At this point Dave Greiter stated that he would like to hear the position of
Jim Clarage on the issue. Mr. Feltz stated that the only concern that Mr. Clarage
expressed was in regard to the turn around area on Birch--a bubble would be preferable.
After some discussion Mr. Feltz asked if anyone would consider making a motion.
Mr. Langland stated that he would motion to approve with the exception that there
be no private road and that the lift station be provided; he further stated that
he was concerned with a safe entrance onto Fox Road.
Don Ament made the motion to recommend the approval of the preliminary plat
with the stipulation that there be no private road and that there be a lift station
provided for the river lots; there also must a safe entrance onto Fox Road.
The second was made by Clarence Holdiman. Roll call vote carried the motion
as follows:
Ament - yes Langland - yes Price - yes Bretthauer - yes
Greiter - yes Feltz - yes Holdiman - yes
Mr. Langland stated for the record that before his vote he emphasized that he was
totally against the approval if it did not include the lift station and that there
be no private road.
PC88-28 — Go-Tane Annexation
No one was present at this time to present the petition.
Mr. Feltz stated that should Attorney Kramer arrive the peittion would be discussed
at that time.
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Chairman Feltz asked if the Commission would consider discussing the petition
on the Walnut Street Addition. The petition would be presented by Tom Grant.
Attorney Grant stated that the petition was originally before the Commission
on March 16. At that time it was recommended to the city council that it approve
the rezoning to R-1 use. He stated that there was no engineering involved. The
development would comply with city ordinances. It was the main concern of the city
council to see easements provided for the future street on the north and also for
water and sewer easements for the same. (also, the same consideration on the west. )
He further stated that when available, the lots must annex to city sewer and
water. Initially, two lots would share a well, but lot #3 would have its own well.
Tonight's request is for approval of the preliminary and final plat for three
lots. The R-1 zoning has already been approved. Mr. Langland stated that he would
like it to be stated for the record that when the city water and sewer are available
the properties in question would have to hook up.
The motion to recommend approval of the petition to the city council was made
by Clarence Holdiman. The second was by Dave Greiter. It was carried by roll
call vote as follows:
Langland - yes Price - yes Bretthauer - yes Greiter - yes
Feltz - yes Holdiman - yes Ament - yes
At this time it ryas- stated that Mr. Clarage would have information on the
comprehensive plan at the next meeting.
Since Attorney Kramer was not in attendance, Chairman Feltz asked if the
Commission should bypass the scheduled petition. Discussion followed with the
end result being that the members felt that the petition could be acted upon
without further delay. The motion to approve the annexation was made by Larry
Langland. The second was made by Don Ament. It was carried by roll call vote as
follows on the annexation of Go-lane:
Price - yes Bretthauer - yes Greiter - yes Feltz - yes
Holdiman - yes Ament - yes Langland - yes
The motion to adjourn the June Plan Commission meeting was made by Mary Kay
Price and seconded by Larry Bretthauer. Meeting adjourned at 8:30 P.M.
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Recording Secretary
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THOMAS W. GRANT
ATTORNEY AT LAW
202 NORTH STREET MAILING ADDRESS:
P.O.BOX 326 P.O.BOX 326
TE LE.(312)553-0088 YORKVILLE,ILLINOIS 60560 YORKVILLE,IL 60560
June 8, 1988
To: See attached service list
Re: Dale J. Woodworth
Application for Annexation and Zoning
Yorkville, Illinois
Dear Friends:
As you are aware, I represent Dale J. Woodworth in his
application for annexation, zoning and subdivision of the
remainder of his real estate situated on the easterly boundary of
Yorkville. On November 18, 1987, the Plan Commisison of the City
of Yorkville conducted a public hearing on Dale' s request for
annexation and zoning.
Since that time, finishing touches have been placed on the
Preliminary Plat of the subdivision and Dale has been progressing
with his engineering drawings for the development.
As a courtesy to you, as neighboring property owners, we wish to
advise you that the Plan Commission will again consider Dale's
Petition for Annexation, Zoning and Subdivision at its regular
meeting on June 15, 1988. This meeting will be conducted at the
County Board Room in the Kendall County Courthouse. The meeting
will commence at 7:00 o'clock p.m. You are all invited to
attend, if you desire. There have been no changes in Dale' s
plans with the exception of some minor changes in lot
configuration. Best wishes.
Very trul rs,
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Thomas W,- Grant
TWG/ce
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Victor and Nancy Zimmerman Lewis C. and Esther F. Riley
649 Quinsey Road 34 Gawne Lane
Yorkville, IL 60560 Yorkville, IL 60560
Kirby and Nancy Waalen Robert D. and Shirley Fey
602 Wacker Drive 32 Gawne Lane
Yorkville, IL• 60560 Yorkville, IL 60560
Daniel and Kathleen Lutz Erick and Gertrude Grett
601 Wacker Drive 28 Gawne Lane
Yorkville, IL 60560 Yorkville, IL 60560
Paul and Mabel Hick Yorkville Lions Swim Club, Inc.
c/o Barbara McNelis P.O. Box 23
509 Quinsey Road Yorkville, IL 60560
Yorkville, IL 60560
James M. and Sandra L. Adams Kenneth J. and Roxanne Greismann
410B E. Main Street 96 Quinsey Lane
Yorkville, IL 60560 Yorkville, IL 60560
Charles E. Gawne Ann Taus Trust
c/o Bernard E. Gawne c/o Frank V. Taus
4841 E. Division Street 172 Olmstead Road
Chicago, IL 60651 Riverside, IL 60546
William J. and Kathryn Gawne Norma and George Frelk
527 Wesley Avenue 2122 Jericho
Oak Park, IL 60304 Aurora, IL 60506
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