Plan Commission Minutes 1986 02-25-86 MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF YORKVILLE
HELD AT CITY HALL ON FEBRUARY 25, 1986 AT 7:00 P.M.
Roll Call
Chairman Groner called the meeting to order. The roll was called with the
following members in attendance: Mr. Beaudry, Mr. Holdiman, Mr. Stewart,
Mr. Feltz, and Mr. Groner. A quorum was established. Jim Clarage, City
Planner, was also present.
Minutes
Mr. Feltz made a motion to approve the minutes of the January 28, 1986 Plan
Commission meeting as written. Mr. Stewart seconded the motion. All members
present were in favor. Mr. Stewart stated that when he commented on the
special meetings called to zone for tax dollars it was actually a pointed
reference to Ivan Anderson getting his taxes filed before the end of the
year. Chairman Groner had spoke to the City Clerk regarding the special
meetings. The City Clerk will contact the chairman in the future before
any special meetings are called. The meeting starting time will also be
changed back to 7:00 p.m. .
Comprehensive Plan
Chairman Groner stated that the order of business was for open discussion
on the comprehensive plan.
Mr. Clarage did bring material on the comprehensive plan. His first step
will be to obtain the original base map or city milar at the City Office
to get the updated zoning and annexations in the corporate limits. He would
like to see the official map that is to be published every year with the
latest annexations and zoning changes. He would like to have a color coded
comprehensive plan this time, but he will have to see whether the City's
base map is adequate first. If not, he will have to adjust it and start
putting in the 1 1/2 mile jurisdiction around the city. Areas that will
be effected will be the south east of town and across from Countryside
which will push out the zoning jurisdiction a great distance. The Stark's
property on Rt. 34 will also push the City out to the east.
Mr. Clarage will need to get the original milar which will help when they
begin to do land uses. It will be important to stress the 'economic growth
of residential, industrial, and commercial in the area. The downtown area
should be studied for historic possibilities. The commission will need to
decide what should be done in the area. In 1978 they did a parking layout
behind the buildings downtown (copy attached to minutes) . The commission
may want to make recommendations in the comprehensive plan that the
business people downtown may like to take advantage of any possibilities
of historic preservations. There may be various tax incentives to remodel.
Mr. Clarage stated that an agreement between Yorkville and Plano should be
made and included in the plan as an advisory type of thing due to it
can only show 1 1/2 mile jurisdiction for zoning purposes. As the plan
goes to the west side of the City, the base map may have to be expanded.
The milars are approximately 3 ft. by 5 ft. . The commission may wish to
drop down the size so that it will be easier to work with.
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Mr. Clarage will be submitting a planner's estimate of fees on the compre-
hensive plan which will be broken down into two parts so that it will not
be so costly to do in a year. The Director of Public Works will submit
the proposal to the Council. The commission may want to approve to do
the plan in two parts and make a recommendation to the City Council.
Chairman Groner stated that this would be up to the City Council to approve
because they will be budgeting for it. Mr. Clarage stated that the Council
may want to know if it is okay with the Plan Commission to do it
in two parts or whether they would like to wait and do it all one year. Mr.
Groner felt that it would be better to get part of it started right a way
so that the commission will have some type of plan to go by.
Chairman Groner did not know whether the Council had followed up on Plano's
request to do a boundary study since the last meeting.
Mr. Clarage stated that the last time the commission worked on the plan they
broke it down into different sections. He would like to do that sort of
thing again. He felt that alot of the work would be the technical part of
updating maps, etc. , so that the commission will get the full scope. This
will be done beforehand to make the commission's job easier. He would like
to see more area around the City included in the plan. Chairman Groner
inquired as to whether it would be easier to do the plan by sections of
town. Mr. Clarage stated that last time small sections of town were broken
down into planning areas.
Mr. Feltz suggested that the commission get the map that the State of Illinois
does periodically showing every detail which would be of importance in plan-
ning for the City. He felt that the commission could use one of these maps
and also one of lesser detail which could be put in their planning books
and could-be folded up when not in use. All the roads should be included
on the map out to Galena Rd. and Orchard Rd. Roads should be planned so
that they do not go directly through town. A county map will be needed
showing the existing land uses and current zoning. There should be a
broad scope map and also a very detailed map. Mr. Feltz felt that the
broad scope map should include all of Oswego and Plano and 7 to 8 miles
north and south of the City to do the overall planning without all the de-
tail to see the traffic patterns and growth, etc. . The commission may also
need a map of the County and all the townships. There is alot of industrial
zoning down on Galena Rd. Those type of zonings will be needed to set
things in place for the future to make everything compatible.
Mr. Stewart inquired as to how pertinent mailing addresses are to the
boundaries. Mr. Feltz stated that everything west on Rt. 47 is considered
Plano. A better definition of more mutual boundaries may be the same as
the school districts. Many community and social events are governed around
a persons school district. The school boundaries go to half way between
Willowbrook and Catapillar, east to near Grove Road, south of Rt. 126, to
Blackhawk Springs, and to Silver Springs park. Blackhawk Springs is in
the Yorkville School District but is within 1 1/2 miles of Plano. The
school district covers alot of territory. Mr. Clarage stated that Plano
would like to figure out the common boundaries between the communities.
Plano's boundaries may possibly stretch out to the west towards Sandwich.
Plano may gain more on Rt. 34 because their school district goes to Eldamain
Road.
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Mr. Clarage stated that Plano's comprehensive plan was done in the early
70's and is in need of updating. They have not made definite plans yet to
do one. He felt if there is discussion between the two communities, they
may decide to begin one. Agreement of common boundaries is more on their
agenda. Mr. Stewart felt that the boundaries with Plano should be worked
out before contacting Oswego.
Mr. Clarage stated that the plan should include economic considerations for
residential, commercial, and industrial growths with emphasis also given
of some type to existing business and the future of the downtown. They
should get an outline of how they would like to put the plan together.
They can put in recommendations on the size of residential lots, cost of
housing, and changes of the zoning districts.
Mr. Stewart inquired as to what the City Council has in mind for the down-
town because they have had more contact with them. Mr. Feltz questioned
as to what percent of business is done downtown. The business is dying out
which is typical of most downtowns. Mr. Stewart inquired as to what will
be done with the back street parking. Mr. Feltz questioned as to what
change the downtown will have to make it with its parking and a shopping
center nearby. Mr. Feltz envisioned the downtown being tied in with the
county operations. There will be financial institutions, lawyers, and
title companies. He felt that this would be an area where people would go
for a specific need other than retail. Mr. Stewart felt that the downtown
would need a plan. Mr. Feltz stated that many of the offices fit into
the special need category presently. There is a c.p.a. , surveyor, lawyers,
real estate office which are all compatible for the downtown. It will be
difficult for a retail store to survive. The plumbing and pump company
is also compatible because it offers the public with a specific need, and
there are not alot of alternatives.
Mr. Stewart stated that businesses use to have to be on a rail which there
is not a big need for today. The lumber is mostly done by truck. The seed
companies still use the rail. Mr. Groner stated that Silica Sand still
uses the rail which is dropped off near Wedron. Mr. Feltz stated that
it is tied into manufacturing which is presently at a decrease. Mr. Stewart
felt that maintaining the rail would be costly just for Silica Sand.
Adjournment
Mr. Feltz made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Stewart seconded the
motion. All members present were in favor. The meeting was adjourned.
Debbie Robertson, Rec. Secretary