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Plan Commission Minutes 1986 06-24-86 i t• MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF YORKVILLE HELD AT CITY HALL ON JUNE 24, 1986 AT 7:00 PM Chairman Groner called the meeting to order. Roll was called with the following members in attendance: Mr. Ament, Mr. Groner, Mrs. Price, and Mr. Feltz. A quorum was not present. Chairman Groner questioned whether the members present wished to proceed with the meeting. It was the commis- sion's opinion to continue without a quorum since the petition to be dis- cussed is outside of the city limits, and the City would only be making recommendations to Kendall County. Also present at the meeting were Jim Clarage, Robert Davidson, Attorney Peter Krantz, Jim Johnson, Larry Jennings, Mike Thanepohn, and Jim Michels. Mr. Feltz made a motion to approve the minutes of the April 22, 1986 Plan Commission meeting as written. Mr. Ament seconded the motion. All members present were in favor. PC-86-6 - Petition to Rezone Section 34, Bristol Township, from A-1 to R-1 by Mike Bollweg (Kendall County #8606) Chairman Groner stated that the order of business would be to consider the rezoning on a portion of section 34 in Bristol Township from A-1 to R-1 east of the city limits on the north side of the River. It is also east of Woodworth's Subdivision and is on Quinsey Road. The road extends to Fox River Gardens. Maps were sent out on the proposed property. Attorney Krantz was present to represent the petitioner. Attorney Krantz presented an aerial photo of the property. The petitioner wants to buy the proposed property subject to its rezoning for 5 residential lots. There are 17 1/2 acres, so the lots would be approximately 3+ acres. The property is wooded and is not conducive for agriculture purposes. He felt the most economical use would be residential. They did not feel that they would be upsetting the nature, drainage, etc. of the property. Quinsey Subdivision is along the river. The access comes off a private road which is only 15 ft. wide. It runs approximately 4600 ft. , and they would only be using 1300 ft. along with the residents in Quinsey Subdivision. Mike Bollweg is Attorney Dan Kramer's client. However, Attorney Kramer cannot work on this petition due to conflicting interest with the City of Yorkville. Attorney Kramer will represent him in the future. They have discussed the proposed property with representatives from Quinsey Subdivision. The residents put money together to maintain the road. The petitioner has elected to come in on the north side of the property at the east end and run the road along the north side. They will not be using the private roadway where it goes down in front of the houses on the east. They will provide a wider road west of where they are. They will not be involved with widening the access or pro- viding additional access to the existing situation. The road will be widened for safety purposes. They are proposing a road on the north side of their property. They have included the provision that before they sell any lots, that as they are sold, the owner of each lot will be required to . contribute to the maintenance of the road. They will be using 30% of the road. The Quinsey residents pay $100, and they will contribute $30 for their portion. They discussed with the County possible drainage difficulties forsurface water and septic systems, and the County does not have a problem with leaving the rear portion of the property as it is in its natural state for an approximate distance of 100 ft. . The water will be absorbed on the lots. r t •a a 6/24/86 - p 2 Chairman Groner inquired as to whether there has been thought given to dedicating the private road going to the access. He was concerned with the future development continuing ' to the city limits. He would not like to see a private road coming into the city. The road will go down to the eastern portion of the property and will be close to joining into Fox River Gardens. He felt that they should consider having the road continue. The road goes to the farm and then south and then the road is all private. Attorney Krantz stated that it would be to Bollweg's advantage to have the road turned into a dedicated road. However, they do not own the property, and he does not know whether the owner would be willing to dedicate it. If the road is dedicated, 66 ft. is usually required and they do not have that much. Mr. Feltz felt that there should be a public road and should set a pattern so that it could be tied into the other roads. Mayor Davidson felt that the road should be widened and raised. Attorney Krantz checked the plat for Fox River Gardens and on some of the lots there is no room for an access. He spoke to a resident of Quinsey Subdivision, and she would be opposed to a road extending east. Mr. Ament questioned as to whether a plan could be worked out so that on the bottom edge of the lots another loft be given. Mr. Feltz inquired as to why the present lane couldn't be widened and make a temporary turn around. Mayor]Davidson stated that the hill is too steep. Mayor Davidson would like a regular septic system put in. There is also alot of storm water that comes off of Quinsey Rd. from the field which washes about 4 in. deep into the road. He felt that something should be done to control this. Mr. Clarage stated that the proposed private access road to the north stops at lot 4 and 5 and does not extend the 300 ft. east to touch Fox River Gardens plat. He felt that this should be extended. If it isn't, there will be a dead end street that goes more than 1800 ft. . There should be more of an easement provided at the end then the 30 ft. easement. There should be a turn around of some sort. They are asking for rezoning only at this time. However, there are many technical things that should be addressed. The City can require that the road improvements meet city specifications. They should allow a 30 ft. easement on the south side of the property for future access for the lots to the south. Alderman Thanepohn questioned as to whether there would be an impact on Main St. going into the city if the road joins Tuma Rd. . Many people will take the back road rather than go to Rt. 34. Mrs. Price felt that some of the residents on Tuma Rd. may not want the road to join. Jim Clarage suggested that 1) a septic system be required and not the mechanical discharge type 2) that a provision for an access easement on the south line of the property to allow for future road access expansion or correction of the subdivision to the south--an additional 30ft. should be provided 3) that Quinsey Road, westerly of property, be improved in 6/24/86 - p 3 regard to pavement and storm water drainage to meet township requirements 4) the proposed private access road to the north be either extended across lot 5 to the Fox River Garden Subdivision or a cul-de-sac with turn around provisions be made 5) they concur to leaving the southerly part of the 5 lots of approximately 100 ft. in natural form 6) consideration be given that the road might be used to service the land to the north if it is sub- divided in the future. Mr. Feltz made a motion to recommend the approval of the rezoning subjeet to the previous 6 considerations made. Mr. Ament seconded the motion. A roll call vote was taken. Price - yes Groner - yes Ament - yes Feltz - yes The motion carried unanimously. Mr. Feltz felt that the discussion may aid the County in some of their decisions. Chairman Groner requested that the minutes be forwarded to the County Plan Commission for their meeting on June 25, 1986 at 7:30 pm. Attorney Krantz thanked the commission for addressing their concerns and hoped to make the property something that the City would be proud of. There was question as to whether the petition would come back for the final plat. Mr. Clarage believed that it would have to for signatures on the final plat. Mayor Davidson apologized that the city representative, Dennis Fahrlander, could not be present at the meeting. Mayor Davidson stated that Conovers have approached him with the suggestion that the curb be waived, and in return, he would put in the 3 in. of asphalt on Leisure. Jim Michels has looked at the water and retention. The first 10 lots should not cause any trouble. Mr. Conover is close to making a decision. Mayor Davidson stated that there may be a new business coming to town. The Westphal property may be tentatively sold. He will know within 60 days. Mayor Davidson stated that the City may see more activity and improvements within the next 6 months. Building is up. Mayor Davidson stated that he has been approached by Don Holt of the Kendall County Economic Development. There may be a big firm interested in locating in the area. The site must be near rail. He recommended the Rt. 34 and Cutt off Rd. area. They are requesting sewer and water. The rail easement would be close enough. There will be highway access. He asked the commission for their suggestions. Mayor Davidson stated that it would be an office type of industrial park. Mrs. Price moved to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Feltz seconded the motion. All members present were in favor. The meeting was adjourned at 8:22 pm. elo_�Robg�Gu�_ Debbie Robertson, Rec. Secretary