Plan Commission Minutes 1984 11-27-84 W ,
MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF YORKVILLE
HELD AT CITY HALL ON NOVEMBER 27, 1984 AT 7: 00 P_M_
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Chairman Jerry Groner called the meeting to order. Roll call was taken with
the following members in attendance: Mrs. Price, Mr. Ament, Mr. Groner, Mr.
Kenton, Mr. Feltz, Mr. Langland, Mr. Holdiman, and Mr. Beaudry. Also present
were Larry Jennings, and Jim Clarage. A quorum was established. Mr. Feltz
made a motion to approve the minutes as written. Mr. Holdiman seconded the
motion. All members present were in favor.
Chairman Groner stated that he had attended the IDOT meeting in regard to the
road improvements on Rt. 34 and Game Farm Road. He stated that it was an in-
formational meeting and held on an informal basis. All the plans are still in
the planning stage. They intend to replace the bridge and change the grade of
the road. They will have to put a temporary bypass through Dr. Kritzberg ' s
property. Dr. Kritzberg complained that they would be cutting down oak trees
that will never be replaced, and also a cottage. It was suggested that they
run a bypass on the north side of the road. They did not want to do this due
to the fact that the creek runs parallel to the road, and there is also a
sewer interceptor located on that side.
1984-7 - Kendall Co_ - Rezone A-1 to R-1 by Donald E. Ament
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Chairman Groner stated that Mr. Ament wished to rezone his property from
Agriculture 1 to Residental 1. It is in the 1 1/2 mile jurisdiction of the
City of Yorkville. The Commission can only make a recommendation to the City
Council to be referred to Kendall County. Mr. Ament presented a sketch of the
property to the members. The property is located in the upper left-hand
corner of Rt. 126 and 71. The parcel is approximately 19.7 acres. The lane
goes up the center of the property and the house is to the right. He plans to
sell 3 1 /2 to 4 acres off on the west of the lane and to the back. Mr. Ament
stated that there would be access to the road at the corner. Both houses will
share the same lane. Mr. Kenton inquired as to whether Mr. Ament had spoken
to the County. The County usually asks for 40% frontage on the depth. Mr.
Ament stated that the County said there would not be any problem since he is
rezoning. A farm has to be 60 acres before one can sell off a section. Mr.
Feltz inquired as to whether the land is presently used as farmland. Mr.
Ament stated that it is partially used as farmland. Mr. Langland questioned
whether Mr. Ament intended to rezone the entire parcel. Mr. Ament stated that
he did wish to do so. Mr. Langland stated that there were no adjoining
property owners to object other than Mr. Ament. Mr. Jennings inquired about
the distance between the two proposed houses. Mr. Ament stated that the
distance is approximately 250 ft. Chairman Groner questioned whether the
members had anymore comments or recommendations. Mr. Langland felt that Mr.
Ament's problem would not be with the City but would be with the County. Mr.
Feltz stated that he had no problems with the petition, but he felt that the
commission should wait until Mr. Clarage arrived to get his recommendations.
The members agreed to wait and to move on to the next order of business .
Chairman Groner questioned whether Mr. Jennings had been informed of the Plan
Commission's recommendation for the City Council to review the Land Cash Grant
Ordinance. Mr. Jennings stated that he had, but no action would be taken
until January.
Chairman Groner stated that the regulary scheduled Plan commission meeting in
December falls on Christmas evening. It is up to the members whether they
wished to cancel the meeting or set another date for a meeting. The members
agreed to cancel the December meeting unless there is an agenda. If there is
an agenda, the meeting will be scheduled for December 18, 1984 .
Mr. Clarage arrived 7: 15 p.m.. Chairman Groner informed Mr. Clarage of what
had been discussed on Mr. Ament's petition. Mr. Clarage was in question as to
whether there would be enough frontage to meet the requirements. He
recommended that Mr. Ament amend his petition before he returns to the County.
Mr . Clarage stated that the Plan Commission could approve the petition "as is"
so that it does not come back to the Commission. Mr. Ament stated that he
would not have another entrance. Chairman Groner questioned whether there was
anymore discussion. Mr. Kenton made a motion to recommend to the City
Council that the petition of Donald Ament to rezone from A- 1 to R- 1 be
granted. Mr. Feltz seconded the motion. A roll call vote was taken.
Mr. Beaudry - yes Mr . Feltz - yes Mrs . Price - yes
Mr. Holdiman - yes Mr. Groner - yes Mr. Langland - yes
Mr. Kenton - yes
Motion carried unanimously .
Chairman Groner stated that the next item of business would be to review the
fencing and swimming pool ordinance. He stated that in August the fencing
ordinance was referred back to the Plan Commission from the City Council with
the comment that it was too complicated and needed to be simplified. Mr.
Clarage passed out revised copies of the fencing and swimming pool ordinance.
Mr. Clarage stated that he had labeled the diagrams accordingly with the fen-
cing ordinance. Mr. Clarage questioned the members whether they had any
problem allowing a fence to be 50% of the width of a building's width. Chair-
man Groner inquired as to what Mr. Jennings opinion was. Mr. Jennings felt
that an individual would have to read the ordinance thoroughly in order to
comprehend it. He did not feel the ordinance could be more simplified. Mr.
Jennings questioned whether a person would be allowed have a fence in there
front yard the full width of the building. Mr. Clarage stated that this
would be possible with a variance. Mr. Kenton stated that the Building
Inspector would have to be very familiar with the ordinance in order to
interpet it to others. Chairman Groner inquired whether the ordinance would
be acceptable to refer to the City Council with the revisions made. Mr.
Langland made a motion to refer the fencing ordinance to the City Council as
revised. Mr. Beaudry seconded the motion.
Mr . Langland - yes Mr. Kenton - yes Mr. Beaudry - yes
Mr. Groner - yes Mr. Feltz - yes Mr. Holdiman - yes
Mrs . Price - yes Mr. Ament - yes
Motion Carried .
Mr. Jennings stated that he will not bring these back to the Commission until
January.
Chairman Groner stated that there have not been any changes made on the
Swimming Pool Ordinance since it had been returned by the City Council.
Chairman Groner read from the City Council's comments. The following changes
were made on the ordinance :
Section 1 - Par. A. Delete the words "at least 24 inches deep" and add the
words "which requires a filter to keep it properly maintained, " .
Par. B. Delete the whole paragraph due to the fact that there is
no depth requirement .
Section 4 - Par. A. Delete the sentence stating "...$5.00 per $ 1 ,000 of
valuation. " . Change the minimum fee to a flat fee of $15 .00 .
Par. B. Delete the whole paragraph.
Section 9 - Par. A. At the end of the paragraph add the words "as determined
by the Building Inspector. "
Par. B. Delete the words "fish pond or other body of water" .
Chairman Groner questioned why the walls of an above ground
swimming pool would not be deemed an adequate barrier. Mr.
Clarage stated that the fence would only have to be around the
deck. Chairman Groner stated that in part 3 , par. d, it states
that the walls of a fence shall not be deemed as a fence. Mr.
Clarage stated that this was written in order to comply with the
fencing ordinance.
Section 12- Par. C. The compliance time should be changed from three years to
eighteen months .
Chairman Groner questioned whether there was any additional revisions to be
made to the swimming pool ordinance. Chairman Groner entertained that a
motion be made to refer the swimming pool ordinance to the City Council with
the revisions made. Mr. Beaudry made the motion, and Mrs. Price seconded it.
A roll call vote was taken.
Mr. Feltz - yes Mr. Langland - yes Mr. Groner - yes
Mr. Kenton - yes Mr. Beaudry - yes Mr. Ament - yes
Mr. Holdiman - yes Mrs . Price - yes
Motion carried.
Mr. Jennings stated that if the Committee agrees to the ordinances, they will
not be brought back before the Plan Commission again.
Chairman Groner inquired as to whether there was any additional business. He
reminded the members that the meeting in December had been cancelled unless
there was something to come up to be put on the agenda. Mr. Feltz made a
motion to adjourn. Mr . Ament seconded the motion. The meeting was cancelled.
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Debbie Robertson, Rec. Secretary