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Plan Commission Minutes 1984 11-27-84 W , MINUTES OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF YORKVILLE HELD AT CITY HALL ON NOVEMBER 27, 1984 AT 7: 00 P_M_ ---- -- ---- ---- -- -------- -- -- Chairman Jerry Groner called the meeting to order. Roll call was taken with the following members in attendance: Mrs. Price, Mr. Ament, Mr. Groner, Mr. Kenton, Mr. Feltz, Mr. Langland, Mr. Holdiman, and Mr. Beaudry. Also present were Larry Jennings, and Jim Clarage. A quorum was established. Mr. Feltz made a motion to approve the minutes as written. Mr. Holdiman seconded the motion. All members present were in favor. Chairman Groner stated that he had attended the IDOT meeting in regard to the road improvements on Rt. 34 and Game Farm Road. He stated that it was an in- formational meeting and held on an informal basis. All the plans are still in the planning stage. They intend to replace the bridge and change the grade of the road. They will have to put a temporary bypass through Dr. Kritzberg ' s property. Dr. Kritzberg complained that they would be cutting down oak trees that will never be replaced, and also a cottage. It was suggested that they run a bypass on the north side of the road. They did not want to do this due to the fact that the creek runs parallel to the road, and there is also a sewer interceptor located on that side. 1984-7 - Kendall Co_ - Rezone A-1 to R-1 by Donald E. Ament ------- - ------ --- -- --- - --- -- ----- Chairman Groner stated that Mr. Ament wished to rezone his property from Agriculture 1 to Residental 1. It is in the 1 1/2 mile jurisdiction of the City of Yorkville. The Commission can only make a recommendation to the City Council to be referred to Kendall County. Mr. Ament presented a sketch of the property to the members. The property is located in the upper left-hand corner of Rt. 126 and 71. The parcel is approximately 19.7 acres. The lane goes up the center of the property and the house is to the right. He plans to sell 3 1 /2 to 4 acres off on the west of the lane and to the back. Mr. Ament stated that there would be access to the road at the corner. Both houses will share the same lane. Mr. Kenton inquired as to whether Mr. Ament had spoken to the County. The County usually asks for 40% frontage on the depth. Mr. Ament stated that the County said there would not be any problem since he is rezoning. A farm has to be 60 acres before one can sell off a section. Mr. Feltz inquired as to whether the land is presently used as farmland. Mr. Ament stated that it is partially used as farmland. Mr. Langland questioned whether Mr. Ament intended to rezone the entire parcel. Mr. Ament stated that he did wish to do so. Mr. Langland stated that there were no adjoining property owners to object other than Mr. Ament. Mr. Jennings inquired about the distance between the two proposed houses. Mr. Ament stated that the distance is approximately 250 ft. Chairman Groner questioned whether the members had anymore comments or recommendations. Mr. Langland felt that Mr. Ament's problem would not be with the City but would be with the County. Mr. Feltz stated that he had no problems with the petition, but he felt that the commission should wait until Mr. Clarage arrived to get his recommendations. The members agreed to wait and to move on to the next order of business . Chairman Groner questioned whether Mr. Jennings had been informed of the Plan Commission's recommendation for the City Council to review the Land Cash Grant Ordinance. Mr. Jennings stated that he had, but no action would be taken until January. Chairman Groner stated that the regulary scheduled Plan commission meeting in December falls on Christmas evening. It is up to the members whether they wished to cancel the meeting or set another date for a meeting. The members agreed to cancel the December meeting unless there is an agenda. If there is an agenda, the meeting will be scheduled for December 18, 1984 . Mr. Clarage arrived 7: 15 p.m.. Chairman Groner informed Mr. Clarage of what had been discussed on Mr. Ament's petition. Mr. Clarage was in question as to whether there would be enough frontage to meet the requirements. He recommended that Mr. Ament amend his petition before he returns to the County. Mr . Clarage stated that the Plan Commission could approve the petition "as is" so that it does not come back to the Commission. Mr. Ament stated that he would not have another entrance. Chairman Groner questioned whether there was anymore discussion. Mr. Kenton made a motion to recommend to the City Council that the petition of Donald Ament to rezone from A- 1 to R- 1 be granted. Mr. Feltz seconded the motion. A roll call vote was taken. Mr. Beaudry - yes Mr . Feltz - yes Mrs . Price - yes Mr. Holdiman - yes Mr. Groner - yes Mr. Langland - yes Mr. Kenton - yes Motion carried unanimously . Chairman Groner stated that the next item of business would be to review the fencing and swimming pool ordinance. He stated that in August the fencing ordinance was referred back to the Plan Commission from the City Council with the comment that it was too complicated and needed to be simplified. Mr. Clarage passed out revised copies of the fencing and swimming pool ordinance. Mr. Clarage stated that he had labeled the diagrams accordingly with the fen- cing ordinance. Mr. Clarage questioned the members whether they had any problem allowing a fence to be 50% of the width of a building's width. Chair- man Groner inquired as to what Mr. Jennings opinion was. Mr. Jennings felt that an individual would have to read the ordinance thoroughly in order to comprehend it. He did not feel the ordinance could be more simplified. Mr. Jennings questioned whether a person would be allowed have a fence in there front yard the full width of the building. Mr. Clarage stated that this would be possible with a variance. Mr. Kenton stated that the Building Inspector would have to be very familiar with the ordinance in order to interpet it to others. Chairman Groner inquired whether the ordinance would be acceptable to refer to the City Council with the revisions made. Mr. Langland made a motion to refer the fencing ordinance to the City Council as revised. Mr. Beaudry seconded the motion. Mr . Langland - yes Mr. Kenton - yes Mr. Beaudry - yes Mr. Groner - yes Mr. Feltz - yes Mr. Holdiman - yes Mrs . Price - yes Mr. Ament - yes Motion Carried . Mr. Jennings stated that he will not bring these back to the Commission until January. Chairman Groner stated that there have not been any changes made on the Swimming Pool Ordinance since it had been returned by the City Council. Chairman Groner read from the City Council's comments. The following changes were made on the ordinance : Section 1 - Par. A. Delete the words "at least 24 inches deep" and add the words "which requires a filter to keep it properly maintained, " . Par. B. Delete the whole paragraph due to the fact that there is no depth requirement . Section 4 - Par. A. Delete the sentence stating "...$5.00 per $ 1 ,000 of valuation. " . Change the minimum fee to a flat fee of $15 .00 . Par. B. Delete the whole paragraph. Section 9 - Par. A. At the end of the paragraph add the words "as determined by the Building Inspector. " Par. B. Delete the words "fish pond or other body of water" . Chairman Groner questioned why the walls of an above ground swimming pool would not be deemed an adequate barrier. Mr. Clarage stated that the fence would only have to be around the deck. Chairman Groner stated that in part 3 , par. d, it states that the walls of a fence shall not be deemed as a fence. Mr. Clarage stated that this was written in order to comply with the fencing ordinance. Section 12- Par. C. The compliance time should be changed from three years to eighteen months . Chairman Groner questioned whether there was any additional revisions to be made to the swimming pool ordinance. Chairman Groner entertained that a motion be made to refer the swimming pool ordinance to the City Council with the revisions made. Mr. Beaudry made the motion, and Mrs. Price seconded it. A roll call vote was taken. Mr. Feltz - yes Mr. Langland - yes Mr. Groner - yes Mr. Kenton - yes Mr. Beaudry - yes Mr. Ament - yes Mr. Holdiman - yes Mrs . Price - yes Motion carried. Mr. Jennings stated that if the Committee agrees to the ordinances, they will not be brought back before the Plan Commission again. Chairman Groner inquired as to whether there was any additional business. He reminded the members that the meeting in December had been cancelled unless there was something to come up to be put on the agenda. Mr. Feltz made a motion to adjourn. Mr . Ament seconded the motion. The meeting was cancelled. -- !Qg�-- ----- Debbie Robertson, Rec. Secretary