Plan Commission Minutes 1977 05-24-77 YORKVILLE PLAN COMMISSION
YORKVILLE ILLINOIS 60560
Dr. Robert Coleman Lawrence Langland James Kenton
Robert J. Mahoney
Harold Feltz Fred Dollman Dale Woodworth
Mary K. Price Steve Franks
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE YORKVILLE PLAN COMMISSION 24 MAY 1977
Chairman Robert Coleman opened the public hearing of the petition to re—zone submitted
by Harold Feltz. Mr. Feltz asked to be excused from his position as a plan commission member
and the request was granted. Dr. Coleman inquired if any objectors were present and no one
responded. Attorney Tom Grant, representing Mr. Feltz, stated he had notified all residents
surrounding the property in question by registered mail and submitted copies of the receipts
for certified mail to be placed in the plan commission files. As no objectors were present,
Mr. Woodworth moved to close the public hearing and was seconded by Mrs. Price. All present
voting aye. Motion carried.
Dr. Coleman called the regular meeting of the Yorkville Plan Commission to order.
Those in attendance were Dr. Coleman, Mr. Feltz, Mr. Langland, Mr. Dollman, Mrs. Price,
Mr. Kenton, Mr. Woodworth, Mayor Thanepohn, Aldermen Beach and Simmons, Mr. Clarageq
Mr. Bushing and Mr. Madden. Mr. Dollman moved to approve the minutes of the April meeting
and was seconded by Mr. Langland. All present voting aye. Motion carried. Mr. Feltz requested
that he be excused from his duties as a plan commission member during discussion of Item
77.9 which was approved.
77.9 Harold Feltz — Petition to Re—Zone
Mr. Feltz said he wished to rezone the property located at 410 East Main Street from
R-1 to R-3. He wanted the property to contin 2 two family attached dwellings and 1 — one
family detached dwelling. He also wanted to vacate the alley between lot 2 and lot 3
except the easterly twenty feet and lot 4 and lot 5 except the easterly twenty feet.
Mr. Feltz stated the property is now plotted into six lots — three full and three partial.
There are two alleys running through the property to Worsley Street but they are only
plotted and are not physically present. Mr. Feltz stated that the existing zoning is R-1
which requires 2 and 1/2 acres. He stated that the general area is all non—conforming to
the present R-1 zoning.
Site Plan-- He stated the first duplex would be of a specific design and that the second
duplex may vary. He stated there were several large trees and some smaller trees now present.
The proposed drive would be along the west side of the property as there is already a drive
there. He stated the soil is Dresden and Lorenzo and that the hazard was slight. The land
is basically flat with some steep fall down to the river. The present sewer is sixty five
feet and the water will be brought in from a six inch line existing across the street.
Planned Land Use — Mr. Feltz stated he felt this would be compatible with Yorkville's
comprehensive plan and that the buildings would be compatible to the surrounding area. He
felt this would be good use of land within the city.
Details of Proposed Zoning Change --- He stated that R-3 zoning could contain seven units
per acre and that his proposals would mean 3.9 units adjusted per acre.
During the discussion following Mr. Feltz's presentation, it was noted that the zoning
ordnance required that a street be fifty—five feet wide. If he installed a fifty—five
foot wtreet, had thirty foot detbacks and forty foot back yards, there would not be much land
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left for housing on one and one half acres. Mr. Clarage suggested that the pet-i'Gioner
should request a PUD — R-3, clarify with amendments, and ask for variances based on his
proposal. He said the Zoning Board of Appeals can give variances of twenty five per cent.
Mr. Clarage said he didn't know if a full street would be suitable on this property and
that Mr. Feltz should explain how he wanted to work out these problems. He said the ten
acre requirement for PUD's could be waived. The question of where a turn around would
be located should also be resolved. Attorney Grant suggested that the plan commission
table the petition and that they would ask for a Planned Unit Development R-3. He also
requested that this be placed on the agenda for the June meeting. Mr. Kenton moved to table
the peitition and was seconded by Mr. Dollman. All present voting aye. Petition tabled.
77.10 Steve Bazan — Preliminary Plat. Subdivision at end of Van Emmon Road (Ponderosa)
Mr. Steve Bazan stated there are six proposed lots, all over one acre. Lot 3
already has an existing house. There are fifty foot setbacks and a sixty foot wide gravel
road has been installed. The property is located outside the city limits. He stated there
were no water problems and that it was wooded property.
Mr. Langland moved to approve the preliminary plat and was seconded by Mr. Kenton.
A roll call vote was taken with all members voting aye. Motion carried.
77.11 Engineer's Report by Crawford, Murphy and Tilly. Refers to Woodworth Subdivision
Mr. Woodworth asked to be excused from discussion and voting as a plan commision
member during this report. The request was granted. Mr. George Griffith from the
engineering firm of Walter Deutchler and Associates explained his answers to the five items
listed on the report (See report).
1. Mr. Clarage stated the sixty feet as shown was satisfactory.
2. Mr. Griffith did not feel this would be a major problem. Lot 35 which is 18,000
square feet is the only one affected. He stated it would be taken care of in
the engineer's drawing.
3. He stated Woodworth and Bruell Streets will :lave a six inch water main and
that E. Main, McHugh and Quincy Road will have an eight inch water main.
4. He stated the run—off will go directly into the Fox River and that according
to the subdivision control ordinance no holding pond would be required.
5. He stated this would be up to the City of Yorkville. He indicated it would be
up to the city's engineers to give direction to Mr. Woodworth if we want to
oversize anything.
Dr. Coleman stated that he felt the questions had been answered satisfactorily. Mr. Kenton
moved to recommend approval of the answers given by Mr. Griffith and refer it to the city
council. Seconded by Mr. Langland. All present voting aye. Motion carried.
77.12 James Stark — Bristol Station
Mr, James Stark stated that he and his architect Steve Knutson had worked on several
plans and that he wished to present his ideas at their earliest conception in order to get
input from the plan commission. He stated he felt the area was not suitable for residential
but felt it would be better utilized having commercial development. The county zoning on
the property is presently B-3 and the portion within the city is R-1. He stated the green
belt is fifty to sixty feet wide which he would not alter. All lots are one acre sites.
He said access would be from Routes 47 and 34 and Bristol Road. Mr. Clarage suggested that
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B-2 zoning would be suitable for the upper portion of the property with B-1 as a buffer
at the lower portion where it joins residential property. Mayor Thanepohn suggested
they formulate a master plan and also follow the recommendations of the impact study.
Mr. Langland also felt that a master plan for the property be done and that smaller
units could be opened as needed.
Mr. Stark asked to be placed on the agenda for the June meeting.
Dr. Coleman announced the terms for each plan commission member.
Mrs. Price moved to adjourn the meeting and was seconded by Mr. Langland. All present
voting aye. Meeting adjourned.