Plan Commission Minutes 1977 07-26-77 YORKVILLE PLAN COMMISSION
YORKVILLE ILLINOIS 60560
Dr. Robert Coleman Lawrence Langland James Kenton
Robert J. Mahoney Fubw WEY5TffTRbWFx
Harold Feltz Fred Dollman Dale Woodworth
Mary K. Price Steve Franks
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE YORKVILLE PLAN COMMISSION 26 JULY 1977
Chairman Robert Coleman called the regular meeting of the Yorkville Plan
Commission to order. Those in attendance were Dr. Coleman, Mr. Mahoney, Mr. Feltz,
Mr. Langland, Mr. Dollman, Mrs. Price, Mr. Kenton, Mr. Woodworth, Mr. Franks,
Mr. Clarage, Mr. Bushing, Mr. Beach, Mr. Dickson, and Mr. Madden. The minutes of
the June meeting were amended. Item 77.15 should read Steve Bazan rather than John
Bazan. Mr. Kenton moved to approve the amended minutes and was seconded by Mr.
Langland. All present voting aye. Motion carried.
77.16 Bob Loftus - Re-Subdivide Kountryside Kommons
Mr. Loftus was represented by Attorney Dan Kramer who stated there were three
items he wished to clarify.
1. He stated that R-4 zoning requires either 12 feet of sixty per cent of the
building height for a side yard and that according to their engineer there is presently
13 1/2 feet at Lot 7. He said that perhaps the line is out of scale on the plat,
but that the required distance is there according to the engineer's field notes.
2. Regarding egress and ingress to Lot 5, he stated this was temporarily gained
through Lots 3 and 4. He said they wanted to vacate the cul-de-sac (Powers Court)
and instead construct a straight street for egress and ingress. He said they could
not give an exact drawing until they work this out with the owners of the
middle portion.
3. Regarding the center portion, he stated that Nelson Pottinger and Randy
Ericksen were here to discuss this property.
Mr. Tom Grant, attorney for Nelson Pottinger who presently owns the property
and Re* Ericksen, who proposes to purchase the property, stated that he had filed
a petition for a pre-application conference. Mr. Ericksen proposes to develop the
real estate into nine lots and to build six duplexes and three quadroplexes totalling
twenty-four dwelling units. The density would be down zoned from 36 to 24 units.
They further wish to vacate the wings of the cul-de-sac to have a straight street.
Mr. Ericksen stated he planned to build on two or three lots himself and sell the
other lots to other developers.
Mr. Clarage stated they will need a cul-de-sac as no dead end streets are
allowed according to the subdivision control ordinance and that Lot 6 would need
a variance. He said if they were to eliminate one or two lots, they could put in the
cul-de-sac, require no variances and would have fewer problems. He also said
there were existing and/or proposed sewer lines on the property which needed to be
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established. Mr. Clarage further stated that if Mr. Loftus wants to withdraw
from the special use permit he has from the city, he must get a certified survey
spotting all buildings, streets, sewer lines, driveways, etc. determin:Uig their
locations. A licensed surveyor should certify that the building on Lot 7 is in
fact 13 1/2 feet off the property lines. If this were done, a logical transition
could be made. We could not terminate special use before knowing what is there.
Mr. Kramer stated that before they have their final plan, they would like
guidance from the plan commission regarding the cul-de-sac. He asked if the plan
commission would approve vacating Powers Court making it a straight street rather
than a cul-de-sac.
Mr. Mahoney stated that the drawing9submitted tonight were not acceptable.
Mr. Clarage also stated we needed up-to-date drawings.
Mr. Kenton stated that the property needed to be completed. The cul-de-sac
was not yet in nor was the blacktopping done as previously agreed to by Mr. Loftus.
He thought this would be a good idea, but we had to be sure it would get done.
Mr. Madden suggested that the two developers could get together to formulate
a completed plan.
Mr. Mahoney stated that all of this had been discussed four years previously.
He felt if they could work out all the problems, the plan commission would probably
be in favor of the plan.
Mr. Mahoney moved that the developers - Mr. Loftus, Mr. Pottinger and Mr.
Ericksen _ formulate a completed plan for the property which would meet the requirements
of the subdivision control ordinance. Seconded by Mr. Kenton. A roll call vote
was taken with all members voting aye. Motion carried unanimously.
77.17 James Stark - Bristol Station
Mr. Jim Stark said he was trying to look down the road in planning to see what
might be needed in the future. He wants to do some conceptual planning in order to be
ready in the future. He now wants to get a conceptual agreement from the plan commission
as he will come back at a later date with the type of zoning desired and a detailed
sketch. He showed a drawing of the development indicating his possible zoning requests.
He said he wanted a business h'ch would look like a subdivision and which would
draw traffic off the road. , Rt. 34 and Rt. 47 would all have access, but
there would be no access to Walnut Street. He said the hedgerow would be a natural
line of demarcation. He felt the residential area might prefer B-1 zoned businesses
for neighbors rather than multiple dwelling units.
Mr. Mahoney questioned where all the businesses would come from to fill
approximately sixty-two acres. Mr. Stark felt there would be a need in the future
especially for professional and service occupations. Mr. Stark said with this type
of development, there would be no new burden on the school district and there would
be a reasonable load for utilities.
Mr. Feltz stated that there should be a method of conveying to new owners certain
restrictions regarding their responsibilities for adequate landscaping. Mr. Stark
indicated this would be desireable from his standpoint also.
All the plan commission members informally agreed that this was conceptually
a good plan for the property.
Mr. Langland then moved to adjourn the meeting and was seconded by Mr. Kenton.
All present voting aye. Meeting adjourned.