Plan Commission Minutes 1976 05-25-76 YORKVILLE PLAN COMMISSION
YORKVILLE ILLINOIS 60560
Dr. Robert Coleman Lawrence Langland James Kenton
Robert J. Mahoney X%WgtJw X� �1ullul X
Harold Feltz Fred Dollman Dale Woodworth
Danny Hanback Mary K. Price
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE YORKVILLE PLAN COMMISSION MAY 1976
Chairman Robert Coleman called the May meeting of the Yorkville Plan
Commission to order. Those in attendance were Dr. Coleman, Mr. Mahoney,
Mr. Feltzf Mr. Langland, Mr. Dollman, Mr. Hanback., Mr. Woodworth, Mrs. Pricey
Mr. Clarage, Mr. Madden and city council membere Thanepohn., Beachl
Bricksen, Simmons and Groner. Mr. Langland moved to approve the minutes
of the April meeting and was seconded by Mr. Feltz. All present voting
aye. Motion carried.
76.10 Proposed Riding Academy and Stable - Don Drobac
Dr. Coleman stated he had received the soil and water conservation
report prepared by the office of Mr. George Hinman., Mr. Claragev reading
from the report,, said there were two soil types - Drummer and LaRosa.
Drummer soil has severe limitations for building., septicst paths and trails
because of the high water table. He said the report did not zero in on
the specific use of a riding academy and stable and that a small sketch
of the property was usually included with the reports but was not attached.
Mr. Langland stated that Drummer soil was not suited for a septic systemv
was not too permeable, and that the run-off would probably goto the creek.
Mr. Hanback stated he felt the plan commission should be considering
whether the academy and stable would fit in with Yorkville's far-range plans.
Mr. Langland stated if this special use request was approved by the county
plan commission there were certain restrictions we as a city would want to
impose. Mr. Feltz stated he also thought the county was asking us about our long
range plan. Mayor Thanepohn asked if the stable would be compatible in a
residential area.
Mr. Mahoney moved to vote on whether the request for a special use permit
for a riding academy and stable from Mr. Drobac was compatible with the over all plan
for Yorkville and was seconded by Mr. Feltz. A roll call vote was taken as
follows: Mr Mahoney, no ; Mr. Feltzq no; Mr. Langlandt ro.; Mr. Dollmant no ;
Mr. Hanbackv no; Mr. Woodworthq yes; Mrs. Pr=cev nov Dr. Colemang no.
The Yorkville Plan Commission thereby recommends by a vote of 7 to 1 that the
special use permit be denied.
76.11 Blaine Harker Subdivision - Final Plat - Unit 2 (Ament Property)
Blaine Harker passed out plats of Unit 2 to all plan commission members.
There are eleven lots of varying sizes. After studying'the platy Mr. Clarage
stated that according to the ordinances lots 4 and 5 on a modified cul-de-sac
which now have a lot width of 75 feet would have to be increased to allow
an 80 foot lot width at the building line.
Mr. Langland moved to recommend that the city council approve the final plat
of Unit 2 of the Blaine Harker Subdivision providing that the city engineer
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has made final approval and that the set back requirements are adherred to.
Seconded by Mr. Hanback. All present voting aye. Motion carried.
76.12 Rev, Larry Rezach — Discussion of Proposed Senior Citizen Housing
Dr. Coleman stated that both Rev. Rezach and Alderman Larry Beach
would discuss the proposed senior citizen housing.
Alderman Beach presented the following material:
1. The entire project would be financed by the Madsen Development Corporation
and the Illinois Housing Development Association.
2. Rent subdidies are provided by HUD. They pay the difference between the cost
the operator incurs and the amount each apartment renter is able to pay.
3. IHDA is responsible for policping the operation of the complex including
such items as sanitation, safetyv fire protection, etc.
4. The Madsen Corporation must provide a credit report on all resident
applicants to IHDAI but the Madsen Corporation has the final decision.
5. IHDA requires that the complex operator will judiciously choose residents for
the well being of the surrounding community.
6. IHDA requiresthat the Head of Household or Spouse be 62 years or older.
7. IHDA requires that no more than two persons occupy a bedroom.
8. IHDA Income Qualifications:
Very Low Income
One person — maximum $4 600 yearly
two persons — maximum $ 9100 yearly
Low Income
One person — maximum $7650 yearly
two persons — maximum $9800 yearly
9. The Yorkville project will require at least 3CP/o occupancy of Very Low
Income residents, but there could be as many at 70l Very Low Income residents.
If the project has less than 30%o VLI residents, the operator would be expected
to attract VLI residents.
10. Definition of Income:
A. Income from Pension Plans B. Income from Social Security
C. Income Interest only on money in bank,, stocksp bonds, propertyg etc.
11. HUD will subsidize rent payments.
_ 12. HUD will subsidize 80% of rent value up to 60 days. After 60 days,
the operator is expected to attract residents.
Mr. Beach stated he still had the following questions:
1. Is the parking adequate.
2. Should Dickson Court be vacated for a private venture.
3. Why not ud e adjacent 'land already zoned R-4 at Countryside.
4. If the complex is unable to attract 309 occupancy from Very Low Income residents
o,g Kendall County, would residents from other counties be recruited.
Rev. Rezach passed out a summary report on "A Survey of Senior Citizens"
by the Four Rivers Agency for Older Americnas which pertained to Kendall County.
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The report had the following conclusions:
1. half of our older population need financial assistance.
2. one third have serious transportation problems.
3. a considerable number would like change of residence.
4. Kendall County needs 200 units of senior citizen housing.
Rev. Rezach stated that he already had eighty— nine names on a waiting list
for the possible eighty units to be constructed in Plano and Yorkville.
A survey of senior citizen housing in surrounding counties indicates that they
all have a waiting list for rental units.
Mr. Hanback asked Rev. Rezach the nature of the complaints from some
Countryside residents. Rev. Rezach replied that he had met with neighbors-
in Countryside who had hired Attorney Tom Grant for legal council:: They felt
that Countryside Center was a planned unit development when they purchased
their homes and felt that this re—zoning would depreciate the value of their homes.
Rev. Rezach explained that the unit was for Kendall County residents and
that there will probably be a waiting list from within the county. He also
told the plan commission that the only acreage available to Madsen Corporation
from Mr. Jack PurceL]', was the property zoned R-2. The fourteen R-4 zoned
acres is more land than the project could afford to buy. Lots 20 through 24
were the only lots Mr. Purcell would agree to sell to the Madsen Corporation.
Rev. Rezach also stated that we are under a time bind for approval of the project
as ground breaking was scheduled to begin in August.
Mr. Thanepohn stated he felt the people were concerned about the needs of
senior citizens, but that certain problems had developed regarding this
particular re—zoning i.e. inadequate parking, no rear driveway for fire
protection, the vacating of a city street for a private venturev and the
possibility that the Madsen Corporation could get a second option for different
land in Countryside.
A committee consisting of Dr. Coleman, Mr. Langland and Mr. Dollman was
appointed to discuss with Mr. Purcell the possibility of securing an option
on property already zoned R-4 in Countryside Center.
Item 76.13 — Land And./or Cash Contribution Ordinance was tabled until the
June meeting.
Mr. Feltz moved to adjourn the meeting and was seconded by Mrs. Price. All
present voting aye. Meeting adjourned.