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Plan Council Minutes 1994 08-30-94 PLANNING COUNCIL MINUTES TUESDAYv AUGUST 309 1994, 9n00 AM CITY HALL, MADISON & JEFFERSON ST. , YORKVILLE Present were Jim Nanninga, Bill Schmanski , Becky Johnson , Joe Moore, Jeff Palmquist , J. T. Johnson and Tony Graff . Also present were Barry Niles and Cindy Heckelsberg. Bill Schmanski presented those present with a copy of the proposed Southeast Intercepting Sewer service area map. Barry Niles showed the area that a lift station would be placed. On initial 35 Acres they would pump up to Rt. 47 and pay recapture for interceptor line. Have option to purchase 50 Acres and would be willing to pay. He would rather have a gravity flow. The sewer is 13 ' deep. Bill Schmanski stated that because of creek , wetlands and flood levels, there may be potential to change grades to save 29000 ft. of sewer. Barry Niles stated that 1 Acre would be used for retention and Bill Schmanski stated that they should plan on 4 Acres for storage. Bill Schmanski stated he is not adverse to on line storage, if done properly. The Corps of Engineers must be contacted for wetlands and Barry Niles stated this is not on the map as wetlands. Bill Schmanski stated that from a land planning standpoint as long as you complied with the Corps requirements and provide detention there should be no problem. In regard to the other 50 Acresv they are proposing 2 entrances. Jeff Palmquist suggested a stronger hierarchy of roads (run secondary roads off main project road) and he feels there is too much road for number of lots. Barry Niles explained that the minimum length of a 4 unit building is 160 ft. long and shifting them is a problem. Jeff Palmquist stated that it is encroaching 200 ft" into the woods and understood this would not happen. Barry Niles stated they had first right of refusal on other 130 Acres. The Doetschmans had been negotiating with Dwyers to service some of the back property through Qwyers but it has fallen through. Bill Schmanski stated that some of the area must be pumped up. A discussion was held in regard to acquiring the easement from Commonwealth Edison. Jeff Palmquist felt that townhouses should back up to single family. Barry Niles stated that because of costs, they would sell duplex lots first (they would have very stringent covenants) and that Niles/Oliver would build the townhouses. Jeff Palmquist stated that he is discouraging encroachment in the woods and there is a growing sentiment with the City that there are enough duplexes in town now. Barry Niles stated there is a real demand for duplexes in town. Jeff Palmquist stated that because of the 12,000 sq. ft. 1otsv people can 't afford to buy a single family home in town and that is why there is so much interest in duplexes. Barry Niles stated that 68% of the buyers of duplexes in Prairie Park are senior citizens (because of taxes, no stairs and cost of maintenance on former homes) . The water billing will be researched for number of detached single family, duplex and multi-family homes in the City. Jeff Palmquist suggested that . - Page 2 Planning Council Minutes August 30, 1994 they have a more creative land plan and that it not be locked in" Barry Niles feels that this type of community (townhomes) is overdue in Yorkville because of high costs for other homes" The costs of the roads and the sewer line were discussed" Barry Niles stated that obtaining easements may be difficult. Bill Schmanski felt the lift station can be upgraded to serve 300-400 homes but would be limited by the force main and felt the interceptor would be built within 2 years and also felt only 2 easements would be required. Bill Schmanski estimated the cost per Acre would be approximately $56" 00 per P. E. and would be 3 m $56"00 for multi-family and cost would be approximately $29000. 00 per Acre. Looping and recapture were discussed. Jim Nanninga stated that he felt application for September Planning Commission meeting was premature and they should have gone for a pre- application meeting first. A tree survey will be required. Jim Nanninga asked about the other 50 Acres which could have a special service area. The costs could be $600-$700 per Acre. All present agree that the 35 Acres of Doetschman 's property temporarily go into the Southwest Sewer and pay recapture fees, go to a temporary lift station and ultimately would go into the Southeast Interceptor. Jim Nanninga passed out a copy of a suggested letter from Dwyers in regard to sanitary sewer system improvements for their property. Bill Gchmanski had talked with Dave Groesch of Williamsport and was told they had no idea the project was so far along. There will be no approval of Green Briar until they contact Williamsport and City sees some evidence that Williamsport is being redone. Christy owns 243 Acres Q parcels) . It was suggested that Christy attend next week 's Planning Council meeting. ac C-1 Jeff Palmquist passed out the proposed Yorkville Park and Open Space information. Under Item D, Fox Valley Park District will be removed. Under Attachment A, items 2 %~ 3 will be deleted. On item 4, a minimum lake should be 2 Acres and a smaller lake shall be considered based on City review" The recreational needs of the subdivision and the community should be considered and credits should be applied where appropriatev but there must be a starting point. On Attachment A, item 5, added will be: a desilting basin shall be provided at the inlet (s) at end of lake for purposes of desilting. On item 18, #3 added should be: shall be determined . . . Page 3 Planning Council Minutes August 30, 1994 by City Engineer based on lake hydrology" These revisions will be to Rea Board before September 15. Tony Graff made a motion to approve these revisions and seconded by J. T. Johnson. Motion carried. The State has given approval of the entrance without a turn lane. All present felt that pressure should be put on I. D" O. T. to require turn lanes" % . D. O. T. should be contacted on any future subdivision on major highways in regard to left turn lanes. A letter will be written to Ralph Dalton in regard to this policy" Traffic SiAnall Light I . D. O. T. will be contacted to see if the temporary light at Somonauk St. can be moved to Countryside Parkway" This will be discussed at a future meeting. It was felt that I . D. O. T. should study the need for the possibility of traffic signals at Kennedy, Cannonball , Countryside and Eldamain. Fran Klaas is to be contacted in regard to Eldamain Rd" In Fox Hill Subdivision , signalization should be part of the P. U.D. Meeting adjourned at 11 : 10 AM. Minutes by: JU