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Minutes
March 28, 2005
Meeting called to order at 7:00 p m.
Roll Call: Bob Johnson
Mike Anderson
Margie Putzler
Also present: Chief Martin
Attorney,Jim Powers arrived at 7:05 p.m.
Previous Meeting Minutes:
Commissioner Putzler moved to approve the minutes from January 24, 2005,
Commissioner Anderson seconded. Minutes approved,
Communications:
ILFPA Spring Seminar is in Decauter April 28, 2005 through May 1, 2005.
The City appreciation dinner is Saturday, April 30, 2005 at 6:010 p.m.
U of 1 progress reports were received on Patrick McMahon and Raymond Mikolesek
Bills for payment:
National Vision consultants renewal contract for$9,000.00. Discussed the renewal of
this contract to coincide with our fiscal year.
Commissioner Anderson moved to renew this contract. Commissioner Putzler seconded.
Motion carried
Unfinished Business:
At the last ILFPA Chairman Johnson attended there was discussion about new pieces of
legislation being introduced taking authority away from the commission for discipline.
This authority would be given to collective bargaining As of this date, nothing has
passed.
New Business:
Reviewed Rules and Regulations. Jim Powers addressed the Secondary Eligibility
Register., John Brohier and Jim Powers discussed the two lists. The preference points
are a main concern. If a list is set, and orals are done as the candidates are listed, then
preference points are applied, it is being don out of order. If preference points are
applied prior to the oral exams to help determine the order of the Initial Eligibility List, the
we may be in violation of the state statute. Per the statute, medical exams can be done
after the Eligibility List is established. No where does it give specific permission for any
other exams such as the oral. This becomes an issue if preference points are to be given
after the written and to establish an initial list, it appears most likely the code does not
give the commission the authority to do oral interviews after the Initial Eligibility List is
established. It was brought up that background checks are an exam after the list is
established and there is no specific authority to do those. However, it is arguable that
these backgrounds are technically not an exam,just a review to see if there is anything in
the candidates past that may disqualify them. Section 10 2.1-12 clearly states and
applicant may not elect to use preference points before an exam is given, They may be
used after a list is established. Sections 12 and 14 also clearly indicate points have to be
allocated after an exam is given. This is not to say an secondary list can not be
established. Generally, the unions (who represent the bulk of the challenges) are not as
interested in entry level positions and these are usually young kids who do not research
the code. These are potentially reasons why the establishment of secondary lists have
not been challenged yet
Mr. Powers went on to state he is not an advocate of the group interview. His suggestion
is to shrink the pool of applicants. This can be done by shortening the time period in
which applications are accepted, requiring a Bachelor's Degree as opposed to an
Associates Degree and raise the passing grade on the written exam It was again
pointed out that the power test can not be used to disqualify candidates.
Page 4, Chapter 2, Section 3(k) shall be amended to read ..Associates Degree in law
Enforcement or Criminal Justice or a related field.
Page 9, Chapter 4, Section 1 shall be amended to read Candidates for promotion from an
entry level position must have completed their probationary period as a full-time member
of the United City of Yorkville Police Department prior to the date scheduled for written
examination.
Jim Powers also made note that there is legislation that may eliminate the 35 year age
limit to apply for the position.
The next meeting is scheduled for April 4, 2005 at 6:00 p.m
Commissioner Putzler' moved to adjourn. Commissioner Anderson seconded Meeting
adjourned at 8:40 p..m.
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