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Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes 2018 11-14-18 Page 1 of 3 APPROVED 1/9/19 PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION City Council Chambers 800 Game Farm Road, Yorkville, Il Wednesday, November 14, 2018 7:00pm Meeting Called to Order Chairman Randy Harker called the meeting to order at 7:00pm, roll was called and a quorum was established. Roll Call: Reagan Goins-yes, Deborah Horaz-yes, Don Marcum-yes, Jeff Olson-yes, Randy Harker-yes Absent: Bill Gockman, Richard Vinyard City Staff Krysti Barksdale-Noble, Community Development Director Jason Engberg, Senior Planner Other Guests Lynn Dubajic, City Consultant Dan Kramer, Attorney Chris Vitosh, Vitosh Reporting Service Eric Peterman, GRNE Solar Shawn Ajaz, Progressive Energy Group Stefan Fanthorpe, Blackberry Woods Megan Fanthorpe, Blackberry Woods Ryan Hoogland, Blackberry Woods Mike Olszewski, Blackberry Woods Ben Kilgore, Blackberry Woods Chris Childress, Progressive Energy Group Scott Koeppel, Kendall County Lana Lerman, Yorkville Dialysis Center Greg Milam, Cimmaron Subdivision Deb Milam, Cimmaron Subdivision Previous Meeting Minutes October 10, 2018 The minutes were approved as presented on a motion and second by Commissioners Marcum and Horaz, respectively. Roll call: Goins-yes, Horaz-yes, Marcum-yes, Olson-yes, Harker-yes. Carried 5-0. Citizen’s Comments None Public Hearings Chairman Harker said there were two Public Hearings originally scheduled for this meeting, however, not all materials were submitted for the Marker, Inc. Hearing and it will be moved to the next PZC meeting. A motion was made by Mr. Marcum and seconded by Ms. Horaz to move PZC 2018-18 Marker, Inc. to December 12, 2018. Roll call: Horaz-yes, Marcum-yes, Olson-yes, Goins-yes, Harker-yes. Passed 5-0. Page 2 of 3 Chairman Harker explained the procedure for the other Public Hearing and he swore in those who would give testimony. At 7:05pm a motion was made by Commissioner Goins to open the Public Hearing for PZC 2018-07 GRNE Solar and it was seconded by Commissioner Marcum. Roll call: Marcum-yes, Olson-yes, Goins-yes, Horaz-yes, Harker-yes. Carried 5-0. Chairman Harker read the petition as follows: 1. PZC 2018-07 GRNE Solar, Eric Peterman, petitioner, has filed an application with the United City of Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting special use permit approval to install and operate a solar farm with more than one freestanding solar energy system on approximately 7.4 acres of land consisting of roughly 6,400 solar modules. The real property, zoned in the O Office District, is located at the southeast corner of John Street and Beecher Road at the Kendall County Government Campus in Yorkville, Illinois. (See Court Reporter's Transcript of Testimony) Also to be entered into public record: Statement from Yorkville Dialysis Center Statement from Megan Fanthorpe Petitioner Responses to the Special Use Standards The Public Hearing was closed at approximately 8:12pm on a motion by Mr. Marcum and second by Ms. Horaz. Roll call: Olson-yes, Goins-yes, Horaz-yes, Marcum-yes, Harker-yes. Carried 5-0. Unfinished Business None New Business 1. PZC 2018-07 GRNE (see above description) Mr. Engberg provided details of the project including setbacks, fencing, glare study, distance of homes from solar panels, solar panel details, city request for solid fence around the perimeter, landscape plan, request for the security camera to be accessible by the sheriff and a knox box on site for emergency use. Other city requests include a security guarantee if the system is abandoned, an easement to enter the site and a full engineering and erosion plan. Scott Koeppel from Kendall County stated the the county included strong language regarding abandonment. The floor was then opened for Commissioner discussion. Mr. Olson commented on any possible glare being hidden by a solid fence, construction pollution, noise being absorbed by nearby trees, emissions from panels being a non-issue, composite-type fence and the strict standards for dust. Ms. Noble said the city engineer would be on site every day to monitor dust and street maintenance. Mr. Engberg said the city is asking for a 7'6” solid opaque fence. Ms. Horaz suggested the fence not be totally solid but it should allow air flow and give the illusion of being totally solid. Mr. Marcum discussed language for fencing and suggested a request for low maintenance and opaqueness rather than specifying certain materials. Page 3 of 3 Resident Megan Fanthorpe said she would like to see more trees and less fence. The petitioner plans for six types of trees at different heights. Ms. Noble explained the landscape requirements ask for 33 trees/shrubs for each 100 linear feet. Mr. Olson added that buffer trees should be replaced if they die. Ms. Horaz inquired about snow on panels, potential hail damage and breakage by baseballs. Mr. Peterman said snow will slide off, double pane panels are resistant to hail damage and baseballs do not break the panels. The discussion concluded and Chairman Harker read the special use standards plus the additional four. Mr. Engberg said petitioner responses to the special use standards and four additional standards from Chapter 14 will be entered into the official record. The commissioners briefly discussed the language for the fence material as a condition in the motion and they decided on PVC or composite-type material. Mr. Engberg also requested that the petitioners adhere to the updated letter of November 7th pertaining to #4 of the staff recommended conditions. Action Item Special Use A motion to approve the petition and Findings of Fact was made by Mr. Marcum and seconded and read by Mr. Olson: In consideration of testimony presented during a Public Hearing on November 14, 2018 and discussion of the Findings of Fact, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval to the City Council a request for Special Use authorization to construct a freestanding solar energy system, or solar farm, on a O Office District zoned property located at the southwest corner of the Kendall County Government Center, subject to staff recommendations in a memo dated November 7, 2018 and further subject to a fence on 4 sides, PVC or composite-type material, solid and opaque, and request date on landscape survey to change to November 7, 2018. Roll call: Goins-yes, Horaz-yes, Marcum-yes, Olson-yes, Harker-yes. Carried 5-0. Ms. Noble said this petition will move to the December 11th City Council meeting for final approval. Additional Business 1. PZC 2018-17 Text Amendment for Signs Mr. Engberg said the City Council approved the text amendment updating Chapter 20 of the sign ordinance. In another matter, Mr. Engberg said extra material will be added to the packet to keep commissioners up to date. More training may be done later and Ms. Noble asked for ideas of the types of training desired. Adjournment There was no further business and the meeting was adjourned at 8:53pm on a motion by Commissioners Marcum and Goins, respectively. Unanimous voice vote approval. Respectfully submitted by Marlys Young, Minute Taker PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE 7 YORKVILLE, ILLINOIS 8 9 10 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION I1 PUBLIC HEARING 12 13 14 15 16 17 800 Game Farm Road 18 Yorkville, Illinois 19 20 21 22 Wednesday, November 14 , 2018 23 7 : 00 p .m. 24 2itosh (Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 2 1 PRESENT : 2 Mr . Randy Harker, Chairman, 3 Mr . Jeff Olson, Deputy Chairman, 4 Ms . Deborah Horaz, 5 Ms . Reagan Flavin-Goins, 6 Mr . Donald Marcum. 7 8 9 ALSO PRESENT : 10 Ms . Krysti ,Barksdale-Noble, Community 11 Development Director, 12 Mr . Jason Engberg, Senior Planner, 13 Ms . Marlys Young, Minute Taker . 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Uitosli Reporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cros .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 3 1 WHEREUPON, the following 2 proceedings were had in 3 public hearing : ) 4 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. I ' ve got a 5 little change here on the public hearing . There 6 are two public hearings scheduled for tonight ' s 7 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting . 8 While there are two public hearings 9 on tonight ' s agenda, the petitioner, Marker, 10 Inc . , has not provided the staff with additional 11 requested materials for the PZC 2018-18 before 12 tonight ' s scheduled public hearing date . 13 Therefore, the public hearing for 14 PZC 2018-18 will not be open for discussion or 15 testimony will not be taken at tonight ' s 16 meeting . 17 May I have a motion to move the 18 public hearing scheduled for PZC 2018-18 from 19 November 14th, 2018 Planning and Zoning 20 Commission meeting to December 12th, 2018 21 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting at the 22 same time and place that was the originally 23 planned hearing? 24 MR . MARCUM: So moved . Iiitosh Reporting Service 815. 993. 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail. com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 4 1 MS . GOINS : Second. 2 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Second? 3 MS . NOBLE : Second. Roll call . 4 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay, and a second . 5 Can I get a roll call? 6 MS . YOUNG : Horaz . 7 MS . HORAZ : Yes . 8 MS . YOUNG: Marcum. 9 MR. MARCUM: Yes . 10 MS . YOUNG: Olson. 11 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Yes . 12 MS . YOUNG : Goins . 13 MS . GOINS : Yes . 14 MS . YOUNG: Harker . 15 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Yes . 16 Okay . The purpose of -- and I still 17 have to say this -- the purpose of this hearing 18 tonight is to invite testimony from members of 19 the public regarding the proposed request that ' s 20 being heard before the commission . 21 Public testimony for persons present 22 may wish to speak in favor of or against the 23 request, or have questions for the petitioner 24 regarding the request being heard. itosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cros.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 5 1 Those persons wishing to testify are 2 asked to speak clearly, one at a time, state your 3 name and who you represent, if anyone . You are 4 asked to sign in at the podium if you have not 5 already done so . 6 If you wish to speak at tonight ' s 7 public hearing as a petitioner or as a member of 8 the public, please stand, raise your hand and 9 repeat after me . 10 Anybody out there -- yeah, you want 11 to speak? Okay . 12 Witnesses sworn . ) 13 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Thank you, you may be 14 seated . 15 All right . So the order that we ' re 16 going to receive the testimony is the petitioner 17 is going to do his presentation first and then 18 those that want to speak that are in favor of the 19 request, they ' re next, then those that are 20 opposed to the request follow that, and then we 21 will move on . 22 So if the petitioner is ready? 23 MS . NOBLE : A motion . 24 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Oh, yeah, I ' m sorry. itosli Deporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 6 1 Hold on two seconds . 2 May I have a motion to open the 3 public hearing on petition number PZC 2018-07? 4 MS . GOINS : So moved. 5 MR. MARCUM: Second. 6 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay . Roll call vote, 7 please . 8 MS . YOUNG: Marcum. 9 MR. MARCUM: Yes . 10 MS . YOUNG: Olson . I1 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Yes . 12 MS . YOUNG: Goins . 13 MS . GOINS : Yes . 14 MS . YOUNG: Horaz . 15 MS . HORAZ : Yes . 16 MS . YOUNG: Harker . 17 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Yes . 18 Okay . PZC 2018-07 , the GRNE Solar, 19 Eric Peterman, petitioner, has filed an 20 application with the United City of Yorkville, 21 Kendall County, Illinois , requesting a special 22 use permit approval to install and operate a 23 solar farm with more than one free-standing solar 24 energy system on approximately 7 . 4 acres of land itosh Reporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 7 1 consisting of roughly 6400 solar modules . 2 The real property, zoned in the 3 0 Office District, is located at the southeast 4 corner of John Street and Beecher Road at the 5 Kendall County Government Campus in Yorkville, 6 Illinois . 7 Now, you are ready to go? 8 DANIEL J. KRAMER, 9 having been first duly sworn, testified from the 10 podium as follows : I1 MR . KRAMER : Thank you, Mr . Harker . My 12 name is Daniel J. Kramer . I am an attorney 13 licensed to practice law in the state of 14 Illinois . My address is 1107A South Bridge 15 Street in Yorkville, Illinois . 16 I represent GRNE Solar, whose 17 representatives are here tonight . We have three 18 possible witnesses who will answer questions 19 from the audience and participate in the 20 presentation . 21 You will probably hear the most from 22 Eric Peterman who is presented or prepared on 23 behalf of GRNE Solar the video presentation, and 24 then we also have Chris Flynn Childress here who itosh Deporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 8 1 is a consultant for the county in the energy 2 request, and we also have Shawn Ajazi, and I did 3 provide spellings of all the names for the court 4 reporter before we started. 5 Again, tonight it ' s a bit of an 6 unusual request in the sense that the petitioner 7 is joined on behalf of the county to make this 8 request . 9 The property is properly zoned; this 10 is an accessory use to the functions that exist I1 out at the county. As most of you know, but some 12 in the audience may be newer to the community, 13 this is about a 50-acre campus that was 14 designated as a public safety campus back when I 15 had hair . 16 The first building was the 17 sheriff ' s department, ultimately an animal 18 control facility was built behind it and there is 19 a garage behind the sheriff ' s department, several 20 public safety buildings for the jail now. 21 At the far west end of the campus is 22 the Kendall County Health Department, which keeps 23 growing with community needs all the time, and 24 the Kendall County Courthouse was actually the 12itosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 9 1 second building built here, and they made I 2 thought really good use of the space in that they 3 could have knocked the west wall out and put a 4 bigger footprint, but they went upstairs instead, 5 so it should stand like the old courthouse for a 6 good half century as the county grows . 7 In terms of the use that ' s before 8 you here tonight, the city has asked that a solar 9 array be a special use so that they take into 10 account the effect on the neighbors in the I1 orderly development of the city. 12 We think it ' s a good use . We think 13 the applicant has thought of as many of the 14 issues as they can and they have taken some time 15 with the neighborhood . 16 They did a meeting with the board 17 about three weeks ago, the HOA association, and 18 they did a meeting at the historic courthouse and 19 invited any residents that wanted to come Monday 20 night . 21 We let the city know we were doing 22 both meetings and said, look, if aldermen or 23 staff want to come, you are welcome, but 24 aldermen, please be careful because of Open Tiitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 10 1 Meeting Act that we really couldn ' t have more 2 than two aldermen, and the county is under the 3 same issue . 4 We let the county board know that we 5 were doing open meetings and said if you' d like 6 to come, but please, no more than two so you 7 don ' t violate the Open Meetings Act and they did 8 not come, which is okay because it ' s their 9 petition . 10 Really not a lot of comments from me 11 other than at the end of the presentation the 12 public comment and after your due consideration 13 tonight as a Plan Commission, we will ask you to 14 give a positive recommendation to the City 15 Council . 16 Thank you very much, and I ' ll let 17 Mr . Peterman talk about the technical aspects . 18 ERIC PETERMAN, 19 having been first duly sworn, testified from the 20 podium as follows : 21 MR. ENGBERG: Lights . 22 MR. PETERMAN : While Jason is grabbing 23 that, as Dan mentioned, we have done a lot over 24 the past several weeks and months to prepare llitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993.2832 cms. vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 11 1 material for this application, this petition, met 2 specifically with Krysti and Jason, we ' ve gone 3 back and forth several times to prepare all the 4 information that ' s requested for the special use 5 application, as well as , as Dan mentioned, met 6 with the HOA and the homeowners that are -- that 7 are nearby this facility, taking in their input 8 and actually changing some of the plans because 9 of their input so that we are all on the same 10 page . 11 I ' ve told the HOA a number of times 12 as well, I have two young kids, I would have some 13 of the same questions that they had, which are 14 all great . I think there has been a great 15 dialogue through the process . 16 Thank you to the staff, I think 17 Jason and Krysti have done a great job of taking 18 it to all those who have been involved from the 19 HOA as well . It ' s been a healthy process so far . 20 Tonight we ' ve prepared a 21 presentation with some of the questions that have 22 come out of the previous meetings, and I know 23 there is some more information requested from the 24 city which is in this presentation, as well as 12itosh Reporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cros.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 12 1 from the HOA, which we have in here as well . 2 Can everybody see this okay or do 3 more lights need to go? All right . Great . 4 And feel free, if you need any 5 clarification or questions along the way, feel 6 free to jump in and stop me . Apologize to a few 7 of those who have seen this for the third time . 8 We ' ll jump right in . 9 So a couple different areas that 10 we ' ll cover, how solar works, the break up of 11 what solar array looks like, some of the sound 12 study, layout, questions that have come up 13 throughout the process , and then some of the 14 maintenance and prior installations that we ' ve 15 done . 16 I guess I should introduce myself, I 17 apologize . Eric Peterman, I ' m an industrial 18 engineer from Northwestern University . I started 19 this company about eight years ago . Born and 20 raised in Illinois, live in Arlington Heights 21 now, our company is run out of Palatine, so we 22 are local . We operate only throughout the 23 Midwest . 24 There is a lot of solar development Iiitosh Deporting Service 815. 993 .2832 cms.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 13 1 going on in Illinois right now because of the 2 incentive structure . I know there was another 3 petition prior to ours that came from an 4 out-of-state that was eventually withdrawn . 5 That was a totally separate setup . 6 That was what ' s called community solar, where you 7 can choose any plot of land to be able to 8 interconnect into the utility grid . 9 This is what ' s called a 10 behind-the-meter application to where it ' s 11 directly impacting Kendall County' s offices, so 12 in terms of the location, it needs to be where 13 the Kendall County offices are located. It can ' t 14 just be on another plot of land out in the middle 15 of nowhere, so that ' s the difference between 16 those location-wise . That ' s a little bit of the 17 background on that . 18 Yeah, as I mentioned, engineer by 19 trade and born and raised in Illinois . I ' ve 20 taken numerous hours to think about how this 21 design is put together, I ' ve driven through the 22 neighborhoods, for Blackberry Woods, and had some 23 great communication with them along the way . 24 Sorry, I ' ll jump in now, so this is Vitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cros .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 14 1 a great slide that I like to use just to explain 2 how solar works just so everybody has a baseline 3 understanding . 4 If you can see, Step One here, solar 5 panels -- this is on a house, but solar panels on 6 the roof are directly impacted by the sun . The 7 sun hits the solar panels and then knocks around 8 some electrons to create energy. 9 That energy is created in DC, or 10 direct current, and then it ' s transferred into a 11 box that you can barely see right here, which is 12 called an inverter . 13 The inverter is the brains of the 14 system and that ' s what converts the energy from 15 direct current to alternating current . 16 Alternating current is what we use 17 to turn on these lights and the projector and the 18 computer, so once it becomes alternating current, 19 it then powers any loads that are going on inside 20 the house, so if the refrigerator is on or if the 21 washing machine is on, the solar power will help 22 to power those things first . 23 If everything is shut off, let ' s say 24 you are away on vacation, then that power would Tiitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 15 1 be pushed back onto the utility grid . ComEd 2 would then give you a credit on your utility 3 bill, so you won ' t lose that energy you created, 4 you will get a one-to-one credit from ComEd, and 5 that ' s where it goes back onto the utility grid . 6 Here is a picture of what a typical 7 ground mount system might look like . So the 8 three main areas we have identified here, the 9 racking structure, which you can see kind of in 10 the background here, it ' s made with steel posts 11 that go in the ground and then aluminum rails 12 that run the length of the system that also 13 support the solar panels . 14 You can see one solar module is 15 installed here . That ' s what is impacting with 16 the sun to create the energy, and then there is a 17 box, like I said, an inverter, which is the 18 brains of the system, which is usually located 19 somewhere along the racking structure hidden 20 underneath the solar panels . 21 What is in a solar panel? So this 22 is a breakdown of what is actually inside of a 23 solar module, so this is kind of a deconstructed 24 module here . 1itosh Deporting Service 815. 993 .2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 16 1 On the top you can see there is an 2 aluminum frame that houses everything inside . 3 There is a double layer of glass , just like a 4 windshield would have, and then the solar cells 5 is what ' s beneath that double layer of glass, 6 another layer on the back side, and then these 7 electrical wires, which help transmit the energy. 8 So the solar cell itself is made up 9 of these three elements : Most notably silicon 10 and ingot, which is -- they ' re all metalloids . 11 Silicon is one of -- I think it ' s the second most 12 abundant element on earth behind oxygen . 13 There is nothing toxic about any of 14 these materials , there is no harmful materials 15 that are inside the cells at all, and I think one 16 of the board members had a question about what a 17 solar cell looks like, or solar module . Jeff, if 18 that was you . So this is actually a full scale 19 solar panel . You are welcome to come look at it 20 or touch it, or any questions you have . 21 This one looks like -- this one is a 22 residential module with a black frame, but this 23 is full scale solar panel, so you are welcome to 24 check it out when you have some time or if you itosfi Reporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 17 1 have more questions . 2 The racking structure . So this is 3 actually on what ' s called a single axis tracker, 4 and what that means is at the beginning part of 5 the day, the solar panels will face east . 6 As the sun rises and goes across the 7 sky to the west, the solar panels will actually 8 rotate without the sun. That ' s the most 9 efficient way to install solar, so in order to 10 achieve that, you need a motor which will 11 actually turn the racking structure with the sun . 12 So here you can see a picture of 13 what that motor looks like and a portion of the 14 racking structure that helps turn the solar 15 module . 16 The inverter, looked like a 17 nondescript white box like you have here . There 18 is a fan, just like you would have on a computer, 19 that runs to keep the electronics cool inside the 20 box . There is a display on the front that tells 21 you how much energy you ' re making or if there is 22 any errors with the system. 23 Here is a picture of the inside or 24 the guts , there is some internal blocks where the Uitosli Reporting Service 815. 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail. com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 18 1 wires are housed, some capacitors and resistors . 2 The question came up about sounds 3 throughout this process, how much sound is 4 created by the solar array . So in order to just 5 provide a base level understanding of how many 6 decibels normal activities are, you can see, 7 starting on the left here, a quiet, rural area is 8 described or calculated at 30 decibels, and then 9 as we go to the right you can see -- as we get 10 into the 50 and 60-decibel range, that ' s what ' s 11 characterized as a refrigerator noise or normal 12 conversation makes the sound that you are hearing 13 from my voice right, now would be in the 50 to 60 14 decibel range . 15 Getting higher becomes what ' s called 16 this dangerous level, and that ' s where you start 17 to hear -- like if you were next to a car horn, I 18 think that says chain saw or a jet engine . So 19 that that ' s hopefully a base level understanding 20 of decibel level for some normal, everyday 21 activities . 22 Solar panels themselves produce zero 23 decibels , so there is actually no noise at all 24 that comes out of the solar panel, so when the 1)itosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 19 1 sun hits it and it ' s creating power, you will 2 never know if you were just listening for an 3 audible test . 4 In terms of racking structure, I did 5 mention that it had motors that turn -- for the 6 racking structure . So when those motors are in 7 motion, the calculated or the tested decibel 8 level is between 40 and 50 decibels . That ' s in 9 between a library whisper and a refrigerator, for 10 reference . 11 The motors only run on 15-second 12 intervals every ten minutes . That ' s only during 13 the day when the sun is shining, so it does not 14 run at night or any time the sun is not shining . 15 It rotates the modules during the day and then it 16 resets itself . 17 One of the questions that was asked 18 at a previous meeting, and I got some 19 clarification, so it will go -- every ten minutes 20 it will run for 15 seconds to rotate the modules 21 throughout the day. 22 At the end of the day it will run 23 for about a minute to reset it back to a normal 24 level, and then the next day it will then start Uitosli deporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 20 1 again, so it ' s only running a limited amount of 2 time and there is only a noise that ' s comparable 3 to a library whisper or a refrigerator . There is 4 only two motors on the entire site is the plan 5 design right now. 6 MR. MARCUM: Those tracking things go 7 down the center of the -- they are not on every 8 panel ; is that correct? 9 MR. PETERMAN : The tracker -- you are 10 talking about the racking structure itself? 11 MR. MARCUM: Yes . 12 MR. PETERMAN : Yes . So you will have a 13 row of solar panels that might look like this 14 solar panel and then another solar panel right 15 here . 16 There will be a beam that runs down 17 and attaches to the back of the solar panel, so 18 it ' s almost like a hinge, so it will go from the 19 east and then they' ll rotate on the hinge . 20 MR. MARCUM: But there is not one of 21 those motors on every one of those panels? 22 MR. PETERMAN : No, no . Only two motors 23 on the entire site . Yes . Thanks for the 24 question . Uitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 21 1 Inverters . So the next study was 2 the decibel reading on the inverters themselves . 3 The inverters as I mentioned are the brains of 4 the system. That ' s the electronics . So standing 5 next to the inverter, measured at around 60 6 decibels , so again, that ' s a normal conversation, 7 probably similar to what you ' re hearing from my 8 voice right now, there are planned about 40 9 inverters for the site right now. 10 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : 60 decibels at how 11 many feet away? 12 MR. PETERMAN : 60 decibels at three 13 meters, so about ten feet, and then once you 14 get -- Actually the next slide will give you some 15 more detail on that . 16 So this is standing right next to 17 it, and you can ' t see Lt on the screen, but these 18 are decibel readings here that show that these 19 are about 60, 61 decibels for each of these, and 20 the angle, why there is four different angles , 21 it ' s from the front, the back, the right, the 22 left, so you can get it from all different 23 angles, and this was actually provided from the 24 inverter manufacturer . T2itosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cros.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 22 1 To your question about how far away. 2 So these are some installed inverters that we 3 have on a site that we own . This is in northwest 4 Indiana for an elementary school . It ' s a similar 5 size, it ' s about 1 . 2 megawatts . 6 The proposed size for this project 7 is close to two megawatts, so it ' s I guess a 8 little more than half of what ' s being proposed 9 for this site . 10 These are actually videos that are 11 not wanting to run on Jason ' s computer tonight, 12 so I will give you a background of what this 13 sounds like . 14 So at three feet away from the 15 inverter you ' ll hear about 60 decibels, so it 16 will sound like a fan running, similar to a 17 computer fan . 18 As we back up, we ' ve got a recording 19 here at about ten feet, that ' s where it ' s , you 20 know, still in that 60 decibel range, so you can 21 still audibly hear it about ten feet away, and 22 then the third picture here shows a recording at 23 25 feet from the enclosure, where at this stage 24 you can' t really hear the inverter . Vitosh Reporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 23 1 You can hear some wind rippling and 2 you can hear some traffic in the background, but 3 the audible noise from the inverter is 4 negligent . 5 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Where are the 6 inverters located on the site? 7 MR. PETERMAN : Yes , good question. I am 8 going to defer that question for a couple slides 9 later so it be a little more helpful . 10 And this is another video, it 11 actually has one of our guys walking through the 12 middle of the solar field to give you a good feel 13 for what that looks like . We can make this 14 available if you want to try the videos later, 15 but that ' s not wanting to work for us tonight . 16 Similarly, another question that 17 came up about any electromagnetic fields that are 18 given off by the solar array, so to provide some 19 EMF levels of everyday activities or everyday 20 devices, here is another frame of reference . 21 So as we start on the left -- and 22 excuse me, I can ' t see it from this far away. As 23 we start on the left, you ' ll see brain waves and 24 solar system is on the left which is considered Uitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 24 1 extremely low frequency . 2 As we move to the right we ' ve got 3 some everyday devices such as a radio, 4 television, laptop, cellphone, which are in the 5 radiowave, microwave category here . 6 As we continue to go to the right 7 that ' s where you get some UV lights, or light 8 bulbs, medical devices, and the dangerous 9 category is where you have some more nuclear and 10 radioactive activity. 11 So as you can see from the solar 12 field, what ' s giving off the EMF is the inverter 13 and that ' s where it ' s categorized in the 14 extremely low frequency next to -- you know, 15 further to the left than everyday devices like 16 your cellphone or your computer . 17 To your question about location, so 18 this if you can see is -- the blue box here is 19 the area that is planned for the solar panels 20 and the red in the middle, we ' ve actually 21 designed it based on some feedback and concerns 22 from the HOA to run down the center of the array, 23 so the nearest home, as you can see here, is over 24 300 feet away from the inverters and the motors , qiitosh Deporting Service 815. 993. 2832 cms. vitosh@gmail. com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 25 1 which are in the center, the only things that 2 make noise or give off EMF . Nothing in the solar 3 field produces either of those . 4 Does that answer your question on 5 location? 6 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Yes . 7 MR. PETERMAN : Great . Landscape layout, 8 which was required by the city, this was produced 9 by HLR, the engineering firm. There is some 10 detail down here that describes the different 11 trees that will be planned for this site . 12 This is the southern portion of the 13 solar field . There is a black line that runs 14 directly east/west that you can kind of see right 15 there, and then just to the south of that fence 16 line is the tree line . 17 This is an image of what that will 18 look like . There ' s going to be an opaque fence 19 on the south side, seven-and-a-half-foot tall 20 wood fence that will not be able to be seen 21 through, and then you will have the tree 22 landscaping between the residents and the solar 23 grid. 24 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : And that ' s on the itosh Deporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 26 1 south elevation? 2 MR. PETERMAN : Yes , sir . 3 MR. KRAMER: Eric, can you point out, 4 the photographs they have in the package show it 5 a lot better than that . That ' s very dark there . 6 MR . PETERMAN : Yeah, it ' s pretty dark 7 here . Point out -- 8 MR. KRAMER : They ' ve got color drawings 9 that show that much better . 10 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Okay. 11 MR. PETERMAN : This shows that -- There 12 was a question about what other -- what other 13 developments might happen on this land, and this 14 land is obviously owned by Kendall County and 15 it ' s -- right now it ' s housing a temporary 16 nursery for some trees, but there are other plans 17 in development . 18 This was taken from the Kendall 19 County Capital Improvement Plan back in fiscal 20 year 2012 . It just shows the public safety 21 center was discussing a build-out of the 22 correctional facility, so there is talks of 23 either expansion of the jail that ' s currently 24 there further to the west where the site is, itosh Deporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 27 1 there is talk of additional buildings for this 2 space . There is nothing set in stone right now . 3 The proposed plan is for the solar field . 4 This was a little bit more 5 clarification on what could go there if this 6 wasn ' t a solar field . 7 The intention -- it ' s my 8 understanding something will be developed there ; 9 the timing or what is what ' s uncertain . 10 A question on property value . So 11 some of the concerns from -- or some of the 12 questions that were brought up from the HOA was 13 will this have an impact on my property value, 14 and we were requested to find a study that showed 15 a similar scenario of a large solar field being 16 developed directly next to a residential home or 17 a residential plot of land . 18 There is actually a study that was 19 produced in the Midwest, so this actually has a 20 lot of Indiana and Illinois solar fields on it, 21 which are much larger than the field that we are 22 proposing for this petition, and essentially 23 what this is saying, there is a couple key 24 categories here, but what they did is they took a itosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 28 1 control site and then a test site to see similar 2 properties that are next to a solar array and 3 similar properties that are not next to a solar 4 array, what was the impact on the property value, 5 and this shows the distance from the solar field 6 to the home, and some of the numbers here, I 7 think that number is like 68 feet from the 8 property line to the solar field, there is a few 9 that are in the hundred feet, 200, that says 400 10 there . 11 So the gist of it is these massive 12 solar fields are right next to a residential area 13 and all the way on the right the analysis 14 concluded that there was no impact, was the final 15 ruling . 16 This number down here shows the 17 property values actually increased by close to 18 two percent , so it ' s a minimal increase to no 19 impact is what the study showed. 20 This was just a recap of some of the 21 questions that did come up and then direct 22 answers to them. 23 Most of the presentation has covered 24 these questions, so I will just highlight some of itosh Reporting Service 815. 993.2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 29 1 these things that were brought up . 2 Will living near a solar field 3 affect my property value? We just presented that 4 study. 5 Do solar panels contain harmful 6 chemicals? There have been numerous studies to 7 show that there is no connection between solar 8 fields or health conditions or any reason to 9 believe that it would be harmful . So we covered 10 that also with the anatomy of what ' s inside a 11 solar panel and how it works . 12 Do solar panels create glare? 13 Actually Jason did a great job at presenting this 14 topic at one of the last meetings . The purpose 15 of solar panels is to actually capture sunlight, 16 not to reflect it, so that is the way that solar 17 panels are designed. 18 Even if it did reflect, if you 19 remember, the solar panels are only facing east 20 and west, so they will not ever face to the 21 south, which would be where the nearby residents 22 are located. 23 Do solar panels leak radiation? We 24 talked about that at the EMF study and, as I Vitosfi Reporting Service 815. 993. 2832 cms . vitosh@gmail. com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 30 1 said, there is no link between solar fields or 2 any threat or concern with health conditions, and 3 then EMF specifically . 4 This is actually that school that I 5 was talking about that we had a picture of 6 earlier. This is an elementary class that ' s 7 actually outside discussing the solar field 8 that ' s being installed. 9 We worked with the Tri-Creek School 10 Corporation to implement this on their campus at 11 the elementary school . They built it into their 12 curriculum. 13 We have designed it such that the 14 students can actually come out and do different 15 tests on the solar field, they can put a shade on 16 a solar panel to see how it impacts it, they can 17 record the voltage to see how much voltage is 18 being pushed through the solar panel . 19 So this has been a great thing for 20 us to show that not only is there is no concerns 21 of harm or health concerns , but it ' s also an 22 opportunity to educate our young ones and build 23 it into the curriculum as they go through, 24 throughout their elementary school . T2itosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 31 1 Question came up of site 2 maintenance . So our relationship with Kendall 3 County is we are leasing the land and we will be 4 responsible for everything on the land. So 5 maintenance, maintenance of the landscaping 6 that ' s on the subject site, ensuring that the 7 field is kept in operation and is functional, we 8 will be responsible for all of that . 9 So you can see a couple fields here 10 that are well manicured. I1 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Those are 12 landscaped. Is the one you are proposing also 13 landscaped grass, it ' s all -- it ' s not gravel 14 or -- 15 MR. PETERMAN : Yes , sir, there will be 16 grass underneath, correct . 17 Some of the previous projects -- I 18 don ' t remember if this was from the city or from 19 the HOA, but they had asked to provide a list of 20 some of the previous projects . 21 That ' s an aerial view of the 22 Tri-Creek School Corporation; this is a project 23 in Nebraska for a ground mount system. We ' ve 24 done roof mount system, we ' ve done ground mount Uitosfi Deporting Service 815. 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 32 1 systems, had various different equipment that we 2 have used. 3 We were recently awarded as the 4 number one solar installer in Illinois . It ' s 5 been a long time coming to get to this point, but 6 as I said, it ' s prideful for myself because I am 7 born and raised here, we are focused specifically 8 on the Midwest and we do everything local , so to 9 earn this is definitely something we are proud 10 of . 11 And then finally this just shows 12 that third-party organizations, which are usually 13 the watchdogs of environmental actions , have all 14 come out in support of solar, the ones listed on 15 this slide as least, so organizations such as 16 Greenpeace, or the EPA, National Geographic, U . S . 17 Department of Energy, Sierra Club, these folks 18 are very interested and engaged in anything that 19 would impact the environment . They have all come 20 out to support solar . And, in fact, the EPA has 21 a very similar sized solar array on their campus, 22 so 1 . 5 megawatts of solar that ' s on their campus 23 would look very similar to the petition that we 24 have before you . Iiitosh Deporting Service 815. 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 33 1 And then finally just a quick 2 summary of the points , some of the key points , as 3 we mentioned in the layout, the solar motors and 4 racking motors will be located more than 300 feet 5 from the nearest home . 6 The inverters and racking motors 7 will only operate during the day when the sun is 8 out; nothing is operating at night . 9 The emitted sound and the EMF we 10 discussed as to have no impact, you won ' t be able 11 to hear it from outside the fenced area or have 12 an effect anywhere outside the fenced area at 13 all . 14 Solar field would be regularly 15 maintained by GRNE Solar . There ' s been no -- 16 After rigorous tests, there ' s been no connection 17 between health concerns or solar arrays . 18 We talked about the independent 19 third-party groups which support solar . GRNE 20 Solar is -- it will save the taxpayers $4 million 21 over the course -- over the life of the system, 22 and that ' s all with zero dollar capital costs . 23 So the way that works is there is a 24 lot of incentives and grants that are out there . itosh Reporting Service 815. 993 .2832 cms.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 34 1 We have an investor that would fund the money for 2 this project so it would not come out of the 3 Kendall County budget at all and they would pay 4 less for the energy that ' s created by the solar 5 than they are currently paying with their 6 supplier . 7 And then the property values we 8 discussed; the study that was shown there with -- 9 specifically in the Midwest, Illinois and Indiana 10 products that has a slight positive to no impact 11 on the property values . 12 And then in terms of next steps , as 13 we mentioned, we ' ve held two joint meetings other 14 than the EDC meetings that we ' ve had previously, 15 but since then we ' ve had two joint meetings with 16 the HOA and the homeowners who have decided to 17 show up . 18 As I said, we ' ve had great dialogue 19 and actually had a change in the plans because of 20 those meetings . Here tonight we have the public 21 hearing and then if it decides to go before the 22 Council for vote, we ' ll see that on the the 11th . 23 Assuming that is approved, we have 24 to apply for those incentives in January and then Vitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 35 1 the installation would be slated for spring of 2 2019 . 3 One thing I will note is the timing 4 or the urgency of the solar incentives . Because 5 of the way the program is structured, it ' s very 6 appealing to developers, so there ' s been a lot of 7 development from out-of-state that ' s come to 8 Illinois . 9 In fact, there is actually more 10 products being developed than there are funds for 11 in terms of the incentives , so they ' ve discussed 12 doing the process of a lottery, so assuming we do 13 get approval and move forward and we get to 14 submit our application on January 15th, then we 15 will still be at the whim of the Illinois Power 16 Agency, which distributes the incentive money for 17 the project . 18 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : So you might get 19 approved and you might lose out on the lottery. 20 MR. PETERMAN : That ' s correct, ' yeah . 21 And without those incentives, the economics of 22 the project don' t work, so the timing is vital to 23 get the approval so that we are ready to submit 24 the application in January, so just want to make Tiitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993.2832 cms .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 36 1 sure that that ' s clear, and appreciate your 2 attention and timeliness on this . 3 At this time I will turn it back to 4 Jason and I ' ll be available for questions if 5 there is anything else that you need . 6 Thanks for your attention. 7 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Thank you . Okay . 8 Moving on, anybody that ' s here that would like to 9 speak that ' s in favor of the proposal being 10 heard? Step forward. Please state your name 11 when you get there too, please . 12 SCOTT GRYDER, 13 having been first duly sworn, testified from the 14 podium as follows : 15 MR. GRYDER : Sure . Hi, I ' m Scott 16 Gryder . I am County Commissioner for Kendall 17 County . I am here on behalf of the County Board . 18 They spent a lot of time looking at 19 this, wanting to be fiscally responsible and then 20 also wanting to be environmentally responsible, 21 and we thought this was a project that could do 22 all of those things in one, and they spent a lot 23 of time, both staff-wise and County Board, going 24 through to come to these agreements , to look at itosli Reporting Service 815. 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 37 1 the products, a lot of questions about the field 2 as well, what would happen, where it would 3 result, and then they unanimously voted to go 4 forward with this project earlier this year, 5 which brought about coming to Yorkville to get 6 approval and get the special use put out . 7 Just wanted to come here and mention 8 that, you know, that there is other elected 9 officials that have reviewed this and looked at 10 it from the County level and they voted 11 unanimously to do it . So thank you . 12 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Thank you . Those who 13 are -- that would like to speak that are opposed 14 to this request? Please step up, step forward. 15 No response . ) 16 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Awesome . 17 MS . FANTHORPE : Are we allowed to ask 18 questions? 19 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Yeah, absolutely . 20 Come on up to the -- 21 MS . FANTHORPE : Do we have to go to the 22 podium? 23 MS . LERMAN: Is there anyone else that 24 wanted to be up for anything to oppose it? I2itosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 38 1 Otherwise I will . 2 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Yeah, go ahead. Come 3 on up . 4 LANA LERMAN, 5 having been first duly sworn, testified from the 6 podium as follows : 7 MS . LERMAN : Hi . My name is Lana 8 Lerman . I represent Yorkville Dialysis Center . 9 We are located on the west side of the proposed 10 solar field, yes, I think it ' s west side, so we 11 did submit a written opposition, but we just 12 wanted to kind of reiterate and explain why. 13 Dialysis is a life sustaining 14 treatment . We have a lot of elderly patients 15 that come in; they come in three days a week, 16 four hours a day, so that ' s pretty much part of 17 their lives . 18 We feel that the noise, the 19 pollution of the construction and everything 20 would not be very good for them, you know, moving 21 in and out and coming into the unit, so -- we ' re 22 also concerned about when the panels go to the 23 west, the possible glare . 24 I know they said there is no glare, Tlitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 39 1 but if there is one, we feel that will go right 2 into our location, so that ' s essentially why we 3 would like to oppose this ; however, if you do 4 decide to go with it, we do respectfully request 5 that you have a fence that ' s at least eight feet 6 tall and that we have a little bit more shrub, 7 bermage ( sic) and trees on our side . Didn ' t look 8 like there was going to be anything on the west 9 side, so -- 10 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. 11 MS . LERMAN : And that ' s about it . Thank 12 you . 13 MR. ENGBERG: It ' s in the packet, real 14 quick, would you like the letter that ' s sent in 15 the packet entered into the record? 16 MS . LERMAN : Yes . 17 CHAIRMAN HARKER : All right . Anybody 18 else that ' s in opposition of the request? 19 MS . FANTHORPE : Okay. I will talk . 20 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay . And, sorry, 21 real quick because you weren ' t here when we swore 22 everybody else in, so -- 23 MS . FANTHORPE : Yes, I realize it was 24 for the public; I thought it was like formal Vitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 40 1 representatives . 2 CHAIRMAN HARKER: You ' re good. Please 3 stand, raise your right hand, and repeat after 4 me . 5 Witness sworn . ) 6 CHAIRMAN HARKER : And what was your last 7 name? 8 MS . FANTHORPE : Fanthorp . 9 CHAIRMAN HARKER : One more time? 10 MS . FANTHORPE : Fanthorpe . 11 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Okay. 12 MEGAN FANTHORPE, 13 having been first duly sworn, was examined upon 14 oral interrogatories and testified as follows : 15 MS . FANTHORPE : So I am the HOA 16 president for Blackberry Woods, and I ' ve spoken 17 with a lot of our neighbors and I ' ve done a lot 18 of research on this myself and I found some 19 conflicting things with the Power Point . 20 I ' ve found that it can be a health 21 hazard, that it can cause hypersensitivity in 22 some people if this is added, and I don ' t know 23 how far it would have to go across the property 24 lines for it to be effective of our neighbors , liitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 41 1 but if they would have that problem, they 2 wouldn ' t even be able to go into their home 3 potentially . 4 I found that the components that 5 make up solar panels overwhelmingly they are 6 toxic and that they cannot be disposed of very 7 easily . That ' s actually one of the problems with 8 solar panels, is trying to recycle them 9 afterwards, because they are made of toxic 10 materials . 11 I agree that they are made of 12 silicone , but a lot of the studies that I have 13 found show that the components inside of there, 14 if they are released into the air, can cause 15 health hazards , and I only received their Power 16 Point today, what they are citing, so I didn ' t 17 have an opportunity to read it beforehand, but I 18 haven ' t, to try to figure out which one is 19 accurate , but if they are toxic and there is a 20 potential for something like a weather-related 21 element such as a tornado to come through and 22 pick these up and smash them or a baseball to hit 23 them or any other way that they could potentially 24 became unencapsulated, I understand in the litosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 42 1 encapsulated form they' re likely safe, just like 2 asbestos , but if it got out into the air for some 3 reason, we would like to know that there is some 4 type of biohazard cleanup plan, but as of right 5 now they ' re saying it ' s safe, so they don ' t feel 6 that that ' s a need, but we have a concern for it 7 being I believe about 85 feet from our back doors 8 is what we were told, that this is being so close 9 to kids . 10 I don ' t know what the hazards are, 11 if some -- if a kid would get in there, if there 12 is electrical components that they could get 13 hurt . 14 We also have concerns with them 15 removing all of the trees in that area . We ' ve 16 got homeowners that have, you know, a lower water 17 table that could end up flooding if they have, 18 you know, kind of a flat area that has no 19 drainage . 20 I don ' t think there is a drainage 21 plan in there right now, I know they said in the 22 future they would have to do that, but I wouldn ' t 23 want them to move forward without that plan . 24 We also have a water basin that ' s liitosh Deporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 43 1 right next to there, about 300 feet from there . 2 If they remove all the trees there could 3 potentially be a problem with the water basin, 4 and that ' s something that we have to -- the 5 homeowner maintained and he ' s had problems in the 6 past and we don ' t particularly want to have those 7 type of costs incurred on our homeowners . 8 We have a low budget for our 9 association, our dues are low, and so any 10 maintenance to those water basis is very costly 11 for our homeowners . 12 We also asked for long-term studies . 13 While I understand solar energy has been around, 14 I don ' t know if it ' s been around long enough for 15 them to show that 20 or 30 years from now some 16 type of byproduct that they are not aware of now 17 could cause problems or cancers that we don ' t 18 know about . 19 I know Willowbrook is having a 20 similar problem right now with Sterigenics , you 21 know, they thought it was safe, and now 20 years 22 from now we have a higher cancer rating, and we 23 don ' t want to be getting these to have more 24 health effects , potentially 20 years from now 1)itosli Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 44 1 we ' re going to have this unknown and have them 2 say oh, sorry, we didn ' t know then . 3 I just -- I feel like for the -- I 4 think we broke it down, it ends up being $1 . 26 in 5 savings for residents in Kendall County . We just 6 don ' t know that it ' s worth the risks of this . 7 They say the property values won' t 8 go down, but most people I ' ve talked to say 5 , 000 9 solar panels next to your house is going to raise 10 some concerns for not just people who back right 11 up to it, but we have two-story homes, so you ' re 12 going to see over it even with the fence and the 13 tree lines . You know, our houses are raised up a 14 bit, so they are still going to overlook that . 15 There has to be security systems in 16 place based on what we are -- the sheriff wants , 17 so some cameras may be looking into our backyards 18 as we well . 19 They ' ve talked about putting a chain 20 link fence around this project, which we think 21 would be an aesthetic eyesore, and while we know, 22 you know, there might be an expansion of some 23 kind in this area, when the Kendall County 24 representative came to one of our meetings , he itosh Reporting Service 815. 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 45 1 said that based on the prison population going 2 down is that the likelihood is that this area 3 won ' t be anything until 2028 , so we think there 4 is some time to figure out what that would be . 5 You know, it ' s also blocking out 6 things like the view of the other government 7 buildings , some of the traffic, Route 34 , Target, 8 all of those other things that are being blocked 9 by that area . 10 We know it can ' t be trees forever, I1 but I just think with the safety concerns that 12 are out there, I just don ' t know that right now 13 they have enough information to prove beyond a 14 reasonable doubt that it ' s safe, and we don ' t 15 want to be the guinea pigs that prove that it ' s 16 going to be safe now and in the future, so I 17 think that ' s all I ' ve got . Okay. Thank you . 18 MR. ENGBERG : Your letter that you sent 19 us that ' s in the packet, would you like that 20 entered into the record as well? 21 MS . FANTHORPE : Yes, please . 22 MR . MARCUM: I have a question . The 23 water basin you are talking about, is it in 24 somebody ' s yards or the retention areas? itosh Reporting Service 815. 993.2832 cms .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 46 1 MS . FANTHORPE : It ' s the retention area 2 to the right off of Blackberry Woods, so my 3 understanding of it is it ' s supposed to retain 4 the water and then drain out into Blackberry 5 Creek, and it ' s about -- from my Google map about 6 300 feet . 7 MR . MARCUM: So you are talking about 8 something that ' s on your property, on your -- 9 MS . FANTHORPE : Yeah, it ' s in our 10 homeowner ' s association. 11 MR. MARCUM: It ' s not this part to the 12 north here? 13 MS . FANTHORPE : No, it ' s like -- 14 CHAIRMAN HARKER: It ' s on the east part, 15 right? 16 MS . FANTHORPE : When you are drive into 17 our neighborhood -- 18 MS . NOBLE : It ' s south. It ' s south . 19 MS . FANTHORPE : It ' s right by the model 20 house . Scruffy ' s . 21 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Yeah . 22 MR. ENGBERG: The project area . 23 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. 24 MR. MARCUM: That ' s it . llitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 47 1 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Can we ask 2 questions of Eric? 3 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Yeah. Absolutely. 4 Can I just say this real quick? 5 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Yes . 6 CHAIRMAN HARKER : We can also do that 7 when we stop and get out of the public hearing, 8 you know what I mean? Because we will get kind 9 of wrapped up in that a little bit, you know, 10 so -- thank you, yeah . 11 Okay. Eric, would you like to 12 respond to some of the things that she just said, 13 or Mr . Kramer? 14 MR. KRAMER : Thank you. Again, Dan 15 Kramer for the record . 16 The technical stuff I ' ll let Eric 17 respond to because I have zilch in terms of 18 knowledge there . 19 In terms of drainage, I think 20 Mr . Marcum hit the nail on the head . When the 21 original campus was designed, the county had to 22 go through some overall drainage studies to show 23 the city how the drainage would work given a 24 reasonable build-out and this parcel would have a Uitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 48 1 building . 2 It was never intended that the trees 3 were going to stay there . It ' s a sad story for 4 Kendall County taxpayers, but the county bought 5 those trees twice, first when the Orchard Road 6 was condemned and as part of the settlement they 7 gave the nursery owner the right to keep growing 8 them on this ground, and then they had to move 9 some a second time and buy a second time, so it 10 was always believed that these would be harvested 11 back before the economy went down the tube and 12 they got too big, frankly . 13 So what Eric has shown you on the 14 Power Point is that under the panels, it ' s still 15 going to be a low fescue-type grass that ' s got a 16 deep root structure, not the bluegrass that we 17 have on our lawn that only has three or four 18 inches of roots, so you ' re still going to have 19 good ground absorption because you ' ve just got 20 the small pipe holding the poles . 21 Again, we would anticipate the 22 drainage going into our retention pound on the 23 county ground to the north and not going to the 24 neighbors in the south into the subdivision at itosli Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 49 1 all, particularly because there is going to be 2 the fence, the berm and the landscaping there . 3 In regards to the safety issue, I 4 think that ' s a very good question, and the 5 sheriff had us address that, as did staff working 6 with Mr . Engberg, and that is that whatever type 7 of fence is there, the sheriff wants internal 8 cameras connected into their computer system so 9 whoever is in public safety or KenCom can always 10 see inside the facility, and the gate would be a 11 Knox box type gate that all emergency responders , 12 police, fire and EDP would have the ability to 13 get right in without calling GRNE or anybody. So 14 if there were children trespassing or anything, 15 they would be known with the cameras right away . 16 The one issue that we can ' t give a 17 final answer on from our side -- and we will do 18 whatever the government authorities work out and 19 tell us to do at the end of the day -- and that 20 is we have committed to the solid opaque fence to 21 the back, to the residential, which makes good 22 sense . 23 The sheriff has given us a letter 24 that he would like to not see a solid fence on Uitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cros .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 50 1 the east, north and west side because of public 2 security reasons, and that goes way back to 3 Sheriff Randall who didn ' t like the place getting 4 too big, not just because of the possibility of 5 prisoners escaping, but also some bad attributes 6 we ' re seeing these days in society. 7 If the city at the end of the day 8 passes a special use ordinance and says do a 9 solid fence, we do a solid fence . We don ' t argue 10 that at all . 11 Besides the young lady who testified 12 on behalf of the dialysis center, we did get 13 written contact, as I believe the city did, from 14 Copley, and Copley asked -- much the same as the 15 dialysis center, asked if we could beef up the 16 landscaping on the west side and they would 17 prefer a solid rather than a chain link fence; 18 otherwise they are fine with the project . 19 They didn ' t know the history about 20 the trees and wondered if they could be 21 preserved; when we explained what was going on, 22 they said no, we understand that now. 23 Those I think are the non-technical 24 ones I can respond to, and I will be quiet and 1)itosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cros .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 51 1 let Eric talk . 2 MR. MARCUM: It sounds as though the 3 concerns from the dialysis people, and the HOA 4 lady didn ' t say, but the construction, that ' s 5 when they ' re going have the -- the dialysis 6 people are going to have the biggest problem. 7 With all the lumberjacks going in 8 there taking these trees out, and also the 9 grading, how long is this going to take to build 10 do we anticipate? 11 MR. KRAMER: I will let Eric respond 12 because he ' s actually done some . 13 MR. MARCUM: Okay, let ' s try another 14 one . 15 MR . KRAMER : Sure . 16 MR. MARCUM: You also -- You and I have 17 had lots of conversations over the years, nothing 18 ever related to science . 19 MR. KRAMER: This is true . 20 MR. MARCUM: So you say it ' s going to be 21 structured so that the water runoff will go to 22 this retention area to the north . Do we have 23 something evidencing that or is that just what we 24 hope? itosh Reporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cros.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 52 1 MR. KRAMER: Well, that again was the 2 original county engineering plan when they got 3 the courthouse and the public -- or public health 4 department building built . 5 There is a huge wetland pond in 6 front of public health, and this one is a smaller 7 pond and, again, they are designed -- they ' ve got 8 wetland plants in them. The whole idea is to 9 infiltrate on-site and not have stormwater 10 runoff . 11 Now, what will have to happen before 12 the city would actually issue a building permit 13 is the petitioner ' s engineer has to do an updated 14 study giving flows on it, and it ' s a bit 15 difficult on this one because back again 30 years 16 ago the engineers simply always did bold 17 detentions . You had this Metropolitan Sanitary 18 District software program, you pumped in how many 19 acres you had, what the density was going to be , 20 and it told you how many acre feet of water . 21 Now they ' ve gone to something -- and 22 the city ' s reviewing engineer is a huge proponent 23 of it -- called BMP ' s or best management 24 practices, and that ' s what this pond is . It ' s a itosh Reporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 53 1 naturalized area and they size it using somewhat 2 the old methods , but they' ve got to make 3 allowances because of the infiltration on-site, 4 and yes, there will be actual calculations . 5 MR. MARCUM: Okay. Thank you . 6 MR. KRAMER : Thanks . 7 MR. PETERMAN : Thanks for the question . 8 Regarding the timeline, so we try to be as 9 efficient as possible, and even with our crews, 10 we don ' t want our crews, you know, on-site more 11 than they have to be, so we do a lot of planning 12 and pre-work on the front end of the project 13 before we ever show up to the site . 14 In terms of actual construction on 15 the site, anticipated duration for this size 16 project would be in the two to three-month range, 17 so minimal disturbance, between two and three 18 months, is all it would take to get the product 19 in place, and then it would be undisturbed after 20 that time . 21 MR. MARCUM: Are you familiar with any 22 of the studies that she ' s cited about the -- 23 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Disposal? 24 MR. MARCUM: -- toxic -- Vitosh Reporting Sermce 815. 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 54 1 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Toxic, yeah. 2 MR. MARCUM: And disposal of the units, 3 are you familiar with any of those? 4 MR. PETERMAN : I haven ' t seen any of the 5 sources or seen any of the citations that were 6 discussed. 7 What I know is the studies that I 8 have presented that have been shown as fact that 9 I have found both from the specific manufacturers 10 of the products and from independent third 11 parties like the governmental agencies and the 12 non-profits that do the environmental watchdog 13 activities, everything that they have put out and 14 presented has been favorable in terms of health 15 or any type of risk or environmental factors 16 related to solar . 17 There is a couple studies that we 18 have, so we have a couple questions on the back 19 side of this, and I think Jason has this -- and 20 I ' ll also make this one available, it ' s a little 21 bit different than the previous one, but all of 22 our -- everything that was in this presentation 23 is cited, so you have all the citations here from 24 the different parties . Uitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 55 1 One of the ones -- let ' s see if I 2 left it -- yeah, back here, so there is -- there 3 is three different sources that specifically 4 discuss the EMF, the electromagnetic field or 5 electromagnetic force . I ' ve highlighted a couple 6 in here . 7 This was a report that was put out 8 by the North Carolina -- it ' s by North Carolina 9 State University, and the North Carolina Clean 10 Energy Technology report . I1 I think the line here that shows -- 12 this was actually a report that went in front of 13 the Congress, and the key line that ' s shown here 14 is : The conclusion of the committee is that the 15 current body of evidence does not show that 16 exposure to these fields presents any human 17 health hazard . So that ' s one source . 18 The second source, from the 19 Massachusetts Clean Energy Center, talks about 20 the different recommended levels of the EMF, they 21 say once you get to 833 milliGauss , that ' s kind 22 of the level, anything above that is when it 23 starts to become concerning, is 833 . 24 The level for the solar field beyond l2itosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cros.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 56 1 50 feet is less than 0 . 2 , so 833 is the level 2 that it becomes concerning, and the report says 3 that there ' s been studies that show for solar 4 fields that it ' s less than 0 . 2 . 5 Now, EMF is in this room right now. 6 It ' s from your laptop in front of Krysti, it ' s 7 from the cellphones we have in our pockets . 8 There is EMF everywhere . And what the study is 9 trying to say, that solar field -- if you are 10 standing next to the inverter, you will 11 experience some of the EMF that ' s given off from 12 the inverter . When you get beyond 25 , 50 feet, 13 you won ' t experience anything from the EMF given 14 off by that inverter . That ' s what ' s put out by 15 the support . 16 CHAIRMAN HARKER: She also brought up 17 like the disposal after the -- What is the life 18 expectancy of the solar field? 19 MR. PETERMAN : So the solar panels are 20 warranted by the manufacturer to operate for at 21 least 25 years . 22 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. 23 MR. PETERMAN: So this solar panel right 24 here is going to produce energy for at least Vitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 57 1 25 years . Most studies show that it will go 2 beyond 30 . The only reason that you would take 3 it out is if you wanted to upgrade or do 4 something different with the property. 5 There are agencies that take damaged 6 solar panels for research, and we have donated 7 some of those to different area universities, but 8 yeah, in terms of the manufacturer, in terms of 9 the third-party organizations , that ' s what I know 10 to be fact from the studies that we have done . 11 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Are there SVS 12 sheets for solar panels? 13 MR. PETERMAN : Yes , sir . Data sheets? 14 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Does it say there 15 is anything harmful from them? 16 MR. PETERMAN : The data sheets I believe 17 were in the initial packet we presented for the 18 original petition; if not, I can get them. 19 MR. MARCUM: How long is the leasehold 20 agreement with the county? 21 MR. PETERMAN : 25 years . 22 MR. MARCUM: Megan . That ' s all I can 23 recall ; the last name was too complicated . 24 MS . FANTHORPE : That ' s okay . Uitosli Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing - 58 1 MR. MARCUM: These prior HOA meetings 2 you talked about, was the information about some 3 studies he is citing made available to you? 4 MS . FANTHORPE : I only received the 5 original Power Point with his information after I 6 emailed him today. I have a full-time job, so 7 unfortunately I didn ' t have time to read all this 8 information, but I have asked for them since the 9 first meeting when we were -- I don ' t recall when 10 the first meeting was called, but when we asked 11 for any information that they could provide to 12 show us that there are studies that show this is 13 safe for now and the long-term, and I can go back 14 and read these, but I did send an email 15 requesting that from the day that we had that 16 meeting, that we would get 60 days to take the 17 time to read it and we didn ' t get a response back 18 whether we were going to get the 60 days, so we 19 are here, it ' s not been voted on yet . 20 I would like more time to research 21 it; quite honestly I would like more time for 22 experts to research it, because again, it ' s a 23 safety thing for our neighborhoods and families 24 and kids . itosh Reporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 59 1 This is 85 feet from our houses, so 2 I don ' t think that ' s something that anybody 3 should be passing without having beyond a 4 reasonable doubt that it ' s 100 percent safe now, 5 future, forever for the life span of these being 6 here . 7 If the studies aren ' t out there 8 because they just haven ' t had it out there long 9 enough, I don ' t think you can ask us to take that 10 risk. I don ' t think you would take that risk for 11 your family members . 12 ' MR . MARCUM : How about the studies that 13 you have referenced, have you made those 14 citations available to them? 15MS . FANTHORPE : I have copies available, 16 I will be happy to email to every one of them. 17 CHAIRMAN HARKER: But the data that 18 you ' re showing, Eric, you' re saying that there is 19 no -- 20 MR . PETERMAN : Yeah . 21 CHAIRMAN HARKER: -- compelling issues? 22 MR . PETERMAN : We provided multiple 23 sources, as I said, there was presentation to 24 Congress for the United States of America, there Pitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 60 1 was the Massachusetts Clean Energy, North 2 Carolina State University, the manufacturer of 3 the products themselves, all of those have been 4 made available and they are in the packet . 5 This was an excerpt that actually I 6 think Jason put together, somebody from staff, 7 the average feet here, so from the property line 8 is about 75 to 80 feet, but distance from the 9 panel to any home, average distance is 160 feet, 10 and that ' s from the edge of the solar array. 11 As you recall, we moved the 12 inverters and the motors even further, so as a 13 conservative estimate, it ' s at least 300 feet . 14 From any home that ' s currently existing, probably 15 a more realistic expectation is 400 or better . 16 MS . FANTHORPE : We did ask they meter 17 test, they can do what it emits outside of it, 18 we ' re talking about the interior components, that 19 they can see what the EMF ' s are currently at the 20 border lines of our yard, and we asked that they 21 do before and after, and they have not raised 22 that at all , so that we don ' t have to worry about 23 that component, whether that means they need to 24 move the inverters further, you know, all the way Vitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 61 1 to the north side, or have less of them, you 2 know, whatever they need to do to make sure that 3 that number doesn ' t raise at all our borders, 4 that would be appreciated, or add more trees or 5 buffer . 6 With the interior components , I 7 guess that ' s just a matter of whose research is 8 accurate . My understanding is they use toxic 9 chemicals to make the cells , and again, I 10 understand when they ' re in an encapsulated form, I1 they' re safe, but so is asbestos until it ' s 12 disturbed, and there is all type of weather 13 components, or a fire, if there are mechanicals 14 involved, so if something malfunctions , set on 15 fire, that could expose them, so I still think 16 there needs to be some kind type of biohazard 17 cleanup plan . 18 And, you know, too, they said there 19 would be security there in case kids get in, but 20 how fast you are going to reasonably -- unless 21 you have an on-site security person that ' s there 22 right then, how fast are you going to get there 23 that a kid is not going to be injured or killed 24 by the electrical components of the solar field Uitosh Reporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 62 1 before they can get there? 2 CHAIRMAN HARKER : That ' s pretty close to 3 the police or the -- really close . You couldn' t 4 get any closer to the sheriff ' s department . 5 MS . FANTHORPE : It only takes a couple 6 seconds to get electrocuted and killed. 7 MR . PETERMAN : To that topic, in terms 8 of safety, obviously we have discussed the fence 9 and the locks and all that . 10 Even if there were no fence and you 11 were able to be touch it, as I mentioned, there 12 is a solar panel here, you can touch it, you can 13 feel it . 14 I am going to flip it around to the 15 back side so you can see on the back . These are 16 the wires that transmit the energy. There is a 17 plastic head on each end, it ' s a plug and play, 18 so it ' s a male and a female . 19 Those are -- they click together 20 with the solar panel next to it, so you 21 physically cannot get electrocuted . I can hold 22 this while it ' s operating, there is no way, 23 unless you were to physically cut it or damage 24 it, but all of this is manufactured to be secure Vitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cros .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 63 1 through the weather elements, so there is no way 2 that these are going to come apart, they are all 3 secure, tightened, and they are plug and play, 4 male and female, snap together . They are called 5 NC 4 ' s , which is a multi-contact, so 6 multi-contact to keep it secure . 7 CHAIRMAN HARKER: If a kid broke in 8 there with a set of bolt cutters or whatever, 9 laid under it and, you know, cut one of those, 10 would he get electrocuted or just shocked really I1 good? 12 MR . PETERMAN : You only get electrocuted 13 if you touched the two ends of the terminals 14 together with a portion of your body -- 15 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. 16 MR . PETERMAN : -- which you would have 17 to cut each one of these, touch them together and 18 touch a portion of your body together, and there 19 is regulations from the National Electric Code 20 that say you can' t go beyond certain voltages 21 which are unsafe . 22 So each one of these creates about 23 40 volts ; you can only string so many together 24 because they sum until you get to a voltage Uitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 64 1 that ' s unsafe . 2 So that ' s covered by the National 3 Electric Code, which we have to be mandated by, 4 so if they were to get in here and they were to 5 get shocked, it would hurt, but it wouldn ' t do 6 more damage than that . 7 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Okay . 8 MR. MARCUM: I am very possibly the 9 least scientific person you ' ve ever come across, 10 and if this lady is right, if there is stuff in 11 made -- if there is stuff in there that ' s toxic, 12 some miscreant comes in there and thinks it ' s 13 going to be fun to smash all these, is there some 14 sort of danger then? I mean, what is the toxic 15 component, or is there a toxic component? 16 MR. PETERMAN : Yeah . Yeah. As I 17 mentioned, and with the studies, these are all 18 metalloids, so it ' s silicon, ingot . They are all 19 non-toxic from the studies we ' ve seen . 20 So even if they were to smash -- You 21 know, when we first met there was concerns of 22 liquid running out or chemicals being released 23 into the ground or into the air . These are all 24 metalloids that are in the air, so we ' ve had itosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 65 1 broken ones before . 2 Like I said, we donate those broken 3 ones to local universities for research and 4 study. We ' ve never had any issues and the 5 studies show there has never been any health 6 issues with the materials . 7 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Okay. 8 MR . MARCUM: Another point she brought 9 up was if you got these security cameras, what 10 about the privacy of the neighbors . 11 Are these going to be set up so that 12 they' re not pointing towards these people ' s 13 homes? 14 MR. PETERMAN : I don ' t think the sheriff 15 is interested in policing the backyards ; it ' s 16 going to be focused on the solar array and the 17 area that ' s there . That ' s the intention for the 18 security cameras . 19 MR. MARCUM: Anybody here from the 20 sheriff ' s office by any chance? 21 MR . KRAMER : No, but I was the one -- 22 again, Dan Kramer, for the record -- that dealt 23 with the sheriff ' s department . They want the 24 cameras inward on the inside of the fence . They Ilitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 66 1 are not so worried about the outside . 2 MR. MARCUM: Okay . Why did the 3 sheriff ' s office just -- I mean, they had no 4 problem with the southerly fence . Why did they 5 want the rest of it open? I mean, especially 6 going to the west so the dialysis people don ' t 7 have to look at this . 8 MR. KRAMER: They literally -- again, 9 like I said, the position had gone back there to 10 Richard Randall, our multi-term sheriff, he 11 wanted that whole campus open so that from the 12 second floor of the KenCom center that you got a 13 visual view out those windows of the whole thing . 14 Well, obviously you don ' t with the 15 trees now because they ' ve grown up massively and 16 they are extremely thick. 17 Current sheriff again has followed 18 that policy and would like it as open as possible 19 and is frankly happy the trees are going, so that 20 they do have visibility . 21 And as I said, the petitioner has no 22 quarrel ; whatever the city passes as the 23 resolution, if they said solid fence we are happy 24 to do it . Done . Vitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail.com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 67 1 We just were put in a position that 2 one body told us to do one thing and another told 3 us another . 4 MR. MARCUM: Right . And I think there 5 is an ugly issue . 6 MR. KRAMER: Not quarreling . 7 MR. MARCUM: And build that wall . 8 MR . KRAMER: Yeah . So if they say -- 9 again, the height has been agreed upon so that 10 when the panels are totally extended the fence 11 would cover . 12 Now, if you ' re in a three-story 13 building, you ' d still be able to look down, no 14 question, but again, if the ultimate 15 recommendation is the solid fence, like I said, 16 we ' re going to comply. We have no objection . 17 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Excellent . Thank you . 18 MR. KRAMER: Thank you. 19 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay . 20 CHRIS CHILDRESS, 21 having been first duly sworn, testified from the 22 podium as follows : 23 MR. CHILDRESS : Hi . Chris Childress 24 from Progressive Energy Group . I think there are fitosh Reporting Service 815. 993 .2832 cros .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 68 1 a couple built in here . I think maybe we need to 2 understand the process that one -- that back up 3 actually to the solar field, and where we ' ll be 4 that have an opinion . 5 I don ' t think that -- we knew I 6 think -- I don ' t want to speak for them, but I 7 think not having done this before there was one 8 of the people that there -- you might want to 9 hear from them. 10 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. Anybody else I1 want to come up? 12 MR . OLSZEWSKI : I will come up . 13 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Did you get sworn in? 14 MR . OLSZEWSKI : No, I did not . 15 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Anybody else that 16 wants to come up and we can swear everybody in at 17 the same time now? All good? Okay . Awesome . 18 Witnesses sworn . ) 19 CHAIRMAN HARKER: All right . Thank you . 20 MICHAEL OLSZEWSKI, 21 having been first duly sworn, testified from the 22 podium as follows : 23 MR . OLSZEWSKI : I back -- that ' s my back 24 yard where this is proposed. vitosh Deporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail.com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 69 1 CHAIRMAN HARKER: State your name again, 2 please . 3 MR. OLSZEWSKI : Michael Olszewski . 4 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Michael . 5 MR. OLSZEWSKI : Would you like me to 6 spell it? 7 THE COURT REPORTER : Sure, go ahead . 8 MR. OLSZEWSKI : O-L-S-Z-E-W-S-K-I . 9 That ' s my backyard . My house backs up right to 10 it . 11 I enjoy the trees, I enjoy 12 everything right now, but if I 'm going to have 13 something put back there, I ' d rather see trees 14 and a fence than possibly a building, possibly -- 15 and I know it ' s all talk and hearsay -- a jail 16 extension, I don ' t want to see that . I 'm going 17 with the lesser of the two to three evils . 18 There will always be a problem with 19 drainage, whether it be solar panel fields or 20 building, so that problem will always be there . 21 I trust enough about the health 22 issues , solar panels have been around for a 23 while, never heard a whole lot about it, never 24 heard a lot of bad about it . Pitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cms .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 70 1 But if something is going to be put 2 back there -- and something will be put back 3 there -- it might as well be something that helps 4 the environment a little, not so much damage to 5 the properties . 6 There ' s going to be grass, fences, 7 shrubs, trees . I don ' t think we ' ll get that with 8 a building, I really don ' t , and I don ' t want to 9 see -- I 'm going to be honest , if they want to 10 put a building up there, I ' ll probably cut my 11 losses and move . 12 I don ' t want to see it . Me and my 13 girlfriend stood in my sunroom today and looked 14 and I 'm like what do you vote for, building or 15 fences and trees? I ' m going fences and trees . 16 Just my opinion though . Thank you. 17 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Thanks . Appreciate 18 it . 19 BEN KILGORE, 20 having been first duly sworn, testified from the 21 podium as follows : 22 MR . KILGORE : Ben Kilgore, directly next 23 door to Mike . Kind of have the same opinion . I 24 don ' t -- personally I don ' t want either; I ' d love Vitosh Reporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cros .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 71 1 to see the trees to stay there . Obviously they 2 weren ' t intended to stay there . If something has 3 to go in, again, I ' m kind of with Mike on this 4 one . 5 I don ' t know how much the 6 association talked to the community on some of 7 the decisions and the letters that were sent . I 8 wish a little bit more would have been done . 9 I 'm not standing up to become 10 anybody ' s enemy by any chance, but again, same 11 thing Mike said, if you trust the company to know 12 their research -- I mean, I always say it to 13 myself, you wake up every morning, cancer is all 14 around you, not going to lie, you burn candles . 15 I mean, I work on brakes , I do mechanic work. 16 It ' s all on that . I have a kid, Mike ' s got a 17 kid . I mean, it ' s -- I don ' t know. That ' s 18 pretty much all I got . 19 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Thank you . 20 MS . GOINS : Thank you . 21 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Would anybody else 22 like to speak at tonight ' s public hearing before 23 we close it out? 24 MS . MILAM: Can I just ask a question? Vitosh Deporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cros .vitosh@gmail . com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 72 1 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Sure . 2 DEB MILAM, 3 having been first duly sworn, testified from the 4 podium as follows : 5 MS . MILAM: All right . I was interested 6 in the health studies that you cited . What was 7 the length of these studies? How long did they 8 study? How do you determine it ' s not a health 9 risk? 10 CHAIRMAN HARKER: And, ma ' am, what was I1 your name ? 12 MS . MILAM: Deb Milam. 13 MR . PETERMAN : I ' d be happy to 14 provide -- like I said, I ' ll make it for public 15 record available and you can view all the studies 16 yourselves . 17 There is multiple sources with 18 varying lengths of what it is . How to determine 19 or how to correlate a health concern with the 20 solar field, they do analysis of the materials, 21 they do analysis of anything that is emitted from 22 the solar array, all of that, and many more 23 variables taken into account, so the multiple 24 studies that are in the report, I ' ll be happy to Uitosh Deporting Service 815. 993 . 2832 cms.vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 73 1 share those with you and you are welcome to look 2 through them as well . There are varying lengths 3 of the different studies . 4 One thing I ' ll say also . It sounds 5 like that topic has come up with a little bit . 6 As we ' ve shown earlier, the EPA, the 7 Environmental Protection Agency, has a solar 8 field on their campus . 9 I don ' t think that they would do 10 that if they believed that there was any harm or 11 health concerns or anything like that related to 12 solar . Field very similar to the size that ' s 13 proposed here, so that ' s located in New Jersey on 14 the EPA' s campus . 15 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Awesome, thank you . 16 All right . 17 Since all the public testimony 18 regarding this petition has been taken, may I get 19 a motion to close the taking of testimony within 20 this public hearing? 21 MR. MARCUM: So moved. 22 MS . HORAZ : Second . 23 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. Thank you . 24 MS . NOBLE : Roll call . T2itosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 . 2832 cros .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 74 1 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Can I get a roll call 2 vote, please? 3 MS . YOUNG : Yes . 4 Olson . 5 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Yes . 6 MS . YOUNG : Goins . 7 MS . GOINS : Yes . 8 MS . YOUNG : Horaz . 9 MS . HORAZ : Yes . 10 MS . YOUNG: Marcum. 11 MR . MARCUM: Yes . 12 MS . YOUNG : Harker . 13 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Yes . 14 Which were all the 15 proceedings had in the 16 public hearing portion 17 of the meeting . ) 18 o0o--- 19 20 21 22 23 24 Tiitosh Reporting Service 815 . 993 .2832 cms .vitosh@gmail .com PZC - November 14, 2018 - Public Hearing 75 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS ) SS . 2 COUNTY OF LASALLE ) 3 I, Christine M. Vitosh, a Certified Shorthand 4 Reporter, do hereby certify that I transcribed 5 the proceedings had at the public hearing and 6 that the foregoing, Pages 1 through 75 , 7 inclusive, is a true, correct and complete 8 computer-generated transcript of the proceedings 9 had at the time and place aforesaid. 10 I further certify that my certificate annexed 11 hereto applies to the original transcript and 12 copies thereof, signed and certified under my 13 hand only. I assume no responsibility for the 14 accuracy of any reproduced copies not made under 15 my control or direction . 16 As certification thereof, I have hereunto set 17 my hand this 3rd day of December, A. D. , 2018 . 18 19 20 Christine M. 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