Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes 2019 03-13-19 Page 1 of 3
APPROVED 4/10/19
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
City Council Chambers
800 Game Farm Road, Yorkville, Il
Wednesday, March 13, 2019 7:00pm
Meeting Called to Order
Chairman Randy Harker called the meeting to order at 7:00pm, roll was called and a
quorum was established.
Roll Call:
Richard Vinyard-present, Danny Williams-present, Deborah Horaz-present, Don
Marcum-present, Jeff Olson-present, Randy Harker-present
City Staff
Krysti Barksdale-Noble, Community Development Director
Jason Engberg, Senior Planner
Other Guests
Lynn Dubajic, City Consultant Matt Hively, Hively
Dan Kramer, Attorney Mr. Chris Mazzoni, Hively
Theresa Dollinger, Castle Law Charles MacKinnon, MacKinnon Farm
Previous Meeting Minutes February 13, 2019
The minutes were approved as presented on a motion and second by Commissioners
Vinyard and Marcum, respectively.
Roll call: Williams-yes, Horaz-yes, Marcum-yes, Olson-yes, Vinyard-yes, Harker-yes.
Carried 6-0.
Citizen’s Comments
Chairman Harker officially welcomed new Commissioner Danny Williams who replaces
Bill Gockman. Mr. Harker also said that Commissioner Ms. Reagan Goins will be
stepping down from PZC after three years and he thanked her for her service.
Public Hearings
Chairman Harker explained the procedure for the Hearings and swore in those who
would speak. At approximately 7:04pm a motion was made and seconded by Ms. Horaz
and Mr. Vinyard, respectively, to open the Hearing.
Roll call: Horaz-yes, Marcum-yes, Olson-yes, Vinyard-yes,Williams-yes, Harker-yes.
Carried 6-0.
1. PZC 2019-03 Matthew C. Hively, petitioner, has filed an application with the
United City of Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting rezoning
classification of three (3) parcels. The real property is located south of Illinois
Route 71, and north of Illinois Route 126 and part of the previously approved
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Windmill Farms Annexation Agreement, which allowed for certain land uses
consistent with those found in the R-4 General Multi-Family Residence District
and B-3 General Business Zoning districts. The petitioner is seeking to rezone
two (2) parcels to the B-3 General Business District and one (1) parcel to the A-1
Agricultural District. The purpose of the rezoning is to establish and operate a
nursery and garden center with retail store on the proposed B-3 zoned parcels and
an accessory building for the storage of equipment and landscape materials in the
proposed A-1 zoned parcel.
(See Court Reporter Transcript)
The Hearings were closed at approximately 7:20 pm on a motion by Mr. Vinyard and
second by Mr. Marcum.
Roll call: Horaz-yes, Marcum-yes, Olson-yes, Vinyard-yes, Williams-yes, Harker-yes.
Carried 6-0.
Unfinished Business
1. PZC 2018-18 Marker, Inc., petitioner has filed an application with the United
City of Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting an amendment to the
Heartland Subdivision Planned Unit Development to reduce the interior side yard
setback from twenty (20) feet to ten (10) feet on Lot 187 of the subdivision.
Additionally, the petitioner is requesting to increase the maximum allowable
height of a permitted fence in a business district from six (6) feet to eight (8) feet.
The real property is located at the southwest corner of the McHugh Road and
Route 34 intersection in Yorkville.
Mr. Dan Kramer summarized the request for the side yard setback reduction and said
they are withdrawing the fence height increase. He said he and city staff have been
unable to contact Casey's after repeated attempts regarding a shared driveway. He is
therefore asking for approval of the setback request. Mr. Engberg added that the
driveway would be off McHugh since Casey's cannot be reached. Mr. Kramer said the
Markers are moving their real estate office to the proposed building. He said if a 10-foot
setback is approved, a 2-story building would be built and if not approved, a 3-story
building would be built. Mr. Marcum questioned the access and if it is an acceptable
distance from the intersection. Ms. Noble answered that the engineer will need to make a
determination. One consideration had been a drive-over median, but that was rejected.
Mr. Marcum and Mr. Harker said, for the record, they thought that would be a better
solution.
Ms. Noble read the six Standards and Mr. Olson questioned the ingress/egress with the
setback change. Some Commissioners said there is not enough land for the building
height desired even though the standards are met. Parking was discussed and 12 spots are
needed for the proposed 2-story building and four more if a 3-story building is built.
Commissioner Horaz asked if a retail use could be built there, however, there is not
enough parking available. It was noted this piece of land is part of the Heartland
subdivision.
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Action Item
PUD Amendment
Commissioners Marcum and Vinyard moved and seconded, respectively, the following
motion: Based on information provided by staff in memorandums dated December 6,
2018, February 6, 2019 and March 6, 2019 and testimony presented during a Public
Hearing on January 9, 2019 and the standards for PUD approval and amendment, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval of an amendment to the
Heartland Annexation and Planned Unit Development Agreement to reduce the side yard
setback from twenty (20) feet to ten (10) feet and further subject to construction not to
exceed 2 stories and a fence not to exceed 6 feet.
Roll call: Marcum-yes, Olson-yes, Vinyard-yes, Williams-yes, Horaz-no, Harker-yes.
5-yes, 1-nay. Motion carried.
New Business
1. PZC 2019-03 Hively (see above description)
There was no discussion and a motion was made by Commissioner Williams and
seconded by Commissioner Vinyard as follows: In consideration of testimony presented
during a Public Hearing on March 13, 2019 and approval of the findings of fact, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval to the City Council of a request
for a map amendment to rezone the properties stated in the staff memorandum dated
January 30, 2019 to B-3 General Business District and A-1 Agricultural District.
Roll call: Olson-yes, Vinyard-yes, Williams-yes, Horaz-yes, Marcum-yes, Harker-yes.
Carried 6-0.
Additional Business
1. City Council Action Updates
The recent actions by City Council were noted as listed on the agenda.
Mr. Olson reported there was an unprotected large hole that a child could fall into, near a
commercial construction site in Kendall Crossing. He e-mailed several officials and the
BKFD Fire Marshall. Ms. Noble said there currently is no ordinance that requires
construction fencing. As a result, Mr. Olson proposed a requirement for fencing and
Ms. Noble asked him to provide language for an upcoming update to the Building Code.
The update will be brought to EDC and PZC. A stop work order or citation can be
issued, but OSHA will be called tomorrow.
2. Planning and Zoning Commissioner Training Series - Presentation
a. Construction Plan Basics for Planning and Zoning Commissioners
Mr. Olson presented information on construction drawings to educate/refresh
Commissioners on construction procedures and plans. He presented various documents
and pointed out important items to look for on the plans.
Adjournment
There was no further business and the meeting was adjourned at 8:33pm on a motion by
Ms. Horaz and approved on voice vote.
Respectfully submitted by Marlys Young, Minute Taker
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1 PRESENT :
2 Mr . Randy Harker, Chairman,
3 Mr . Jeff Olson, Vice-Chairman,
4 Mr . Richard Vinyard,
5 Ms . Deborah Horaz,
6 Mr . Donald Marcum,
7 Mr . Danny Williams .
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12 Mr . Jason Engberg, Senior Planner,
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1 WHEREUPON, the following
2 proceedings were had in
3 public hearing : )
4 CHAIRMAN HARKER: There is one public
5 hearing, which is PZC 2019-03 , scheduled for
6 tonight ' s Planning and Zoning Commission
7 meeting .
8 The purpose of this hearing is to
9 invite testimony from members of the public
10 regarding the proposed request being heard before
11 ' the board tonight .
12 Public testimony from persons may
13 wish to speak may be in for -- or for the request
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14 being heard or against the request or just have
15 ' questions for the petitioner .
16 ; Those persons wishing to testify are
17 ' asked to speak clearly, one at a time, state your
18 name and who you represent, if anyone . You are
19 also asked to sign in at the podium if you
20 haven ' t already done so .
21 If you plan to speak during
22 tonight ' s meeting as a petitioner or a member of
23 the public, please stand, raise your right hand
24 and repeat after me . Somebody has to talk .
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1 Okay.
2 Witnesses sworn . )
3 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Thank you . All right .
4 And the order that we ' re going to take the
5 testimony will be the petitioner will go, and
6 then those who are in favor of the request and
7 then those that are in opposition of the request
8 and then questions from the board to the
9 petitioner . Okay?
10 May I have a motion to open public
I1 hearing on Petition Number PZC 2019-03?
12 MS . HORAZ : So moved .
13 MR. VINYARD : Second.
14 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. Roll call vote,
15 please, on the motion .
16 MS . YOUNG: Yes .
17 Horaz .
18 MS . HORAZ : Yes .
19 MS . YOUNG: Markham.
20 MR. MARKHAM: Yes .
21 MS . YOUNG: Olson.
22 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Yes .
23 MS . YOUNG: Vinyard .
24 MR. VINYARD: Yes .
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1 ' MS . YOUNG: Williams .
2 MR. WILLIAMS : Yes .
3 MS . YOUNG: Harker .
4 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Yes . Okay.
5 PZC 2019-03, Matthew C . Hively,
6 petitioner, has filed an application with the
7 United City of Yorkville, Kendall County,
8 Illinois , requesting rezoning classification of
9 three parcels .
10 The real property is located south
11 of Illinois Route 71 , north of Illinois Route
12 126, and part of the previously approved Windmill
13 Farms annexation agreement, which allowed for
14 certain land uses consistent with those found in
15 ' R-4 General Multi-Family Residence District and
16 ; B-3 General Business Districts -- I 'm sorry, B-3
17 General Business Zoning Districts .
18 The petitioner is seeking to rezone
19 two parcels to the B-3 General Business District,
20 and one parcel to an A-1 Agricultural District .
21 The purpose of rezoning is to
22 establish and operate a nursery and garden center
23 with a retail store on the proposed B-3 zoned
24 parcels and an accessory building for the storage
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1 of the equipment, landscaping materials, in the
2 , proposed A-1 zoned parcel . Okay?
3 Petitioner, are you ready?
4 MS . DOLLINGER: Teresa Dollinger . I
5 represent Matt Hively, who is the petitioner . We
6 have two applications for rezoning to present
7 this evening .
8 The first -- They are both parcels
9 that were previously in the Windmill Farms
10 annexation. For one parcel we are seeking A-1
11 zoning, and for the other application we are
12 looking for B-3 zoning .
13 ' As was explained, the purpose for
14 the B-3 zoning is to operate a nursery and garden
15 center . We presented a concept plan that shows a
16 , 4 , 000 square foot building served for that
17 purpose, that would be the retail portion of
18 that -- of that business .
19 This parcel does extend just
20 across -- across the street as well, a small
piece of that parcel . We were also seeking B-3
22 here . Presently we are contemplating no building
23 at this time; we are planning to landscape it so
24 it ' s in keeping with the appearance of the
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1 nursery and garden center, and it will serve as
2 part of some support for the business and the
3 garden center .
4 With respect to the application
5 seeking A-1 zoning, that is -- it ' s a little bit
6 down the road from those parcels . It ' s currently
7 being farmed and we are looking to grow plants
8 ' and things that support the nursery and garden
9 center as well .
10 So I ' d be happy to answer any
11 questions that you have about our applications
12 that are in the packet tonight or the concept
13 plan we presented.
14 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay.
15 MS . NOBLE : Would you like your response
16 to the findings entered into the record?
17 MS . DOLLINGER : Yes, please .
18 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Excellent . Any
19 questions? Sorry.
20 MR. VINYARD: Yeah . The parcel number
21 three, you said that you guys are just going to
22 landscape it .
23 Was there any plans like -- You
24 weren ' t thinking like signage, or just kind of
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1 ' like tie the landscaping into the actual business
2 itself?
3 MS . DOLLINGER: For the parcel that ' s
4 part of the larger --
5 MR . VINYARD : Yeah . For your lot .
6 MS . DOLLINGER: -- parcel? Yeah, at
7 this time we have to -- we do have to work with
8 the traffic situation of this very small piece,
9 so we don ' t have any plans to build presently on
10 ' that . We would like --
11 MR. VINYARD : Something small .
12 MS . DOLLINGER: Yes, it is quite small,
13 but we do view that as part of the business and
14 view it as an opportunity to kind of showcase
15 some of the landscaping and services that would
16 be provided by the nursery and garden center .
17 MR. VINYARD: Completely clarified it .
18 So yeah, there is like a little shoulder where
19 you can put some plants in there, give an idea of
20 what you do and what you have .
21 MS . DOLLINGER: Right .
22 MR. VINYARD : Okay. Cool . Thank you .
23 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Will the main parcel
24 . number two there, will that have like a fence
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1 around it or is there a call out for any of that?
2 MS . DOLLINGER : Around the garden
3 center?
4 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Yeah.
5 MS . DOLLINGER: There is no fencing
6 there . There would be some more landscaping with
7 trees, which is going to act as a natural fence,
8 but --
9 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay.
10 MS . DOLLINGER : And they will be
11 complying with the appearance code that ' s
12 required with respect to signs, and obviously the
13 nature of the business is such that we want to
14 , make sure it ' s visibly attractive to the area .
I5 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. One other
16 thing, on the -- Would you say that like your --
7 the company is going to be more like a -- like a
18Schaefer ' s or a -- you know, like a greenhouse
19 like that, or is it going to be more like a
20 Winding Creek? Is it Winding Creek down in --
21 MS . HORAZ : Yeah .
22 CHAIRMAN HARKER : -- Millbrook? I mean,
23 I 'm just trying to -- What ' s that? They ' re
24 both -- You guys are going to be retail, right?
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1 It ' s going to be retail?
2 MS . DOLLINGER: Yes .
3 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Okay.
4 MS . DOLLINGER: Mm-hum. So for people
5 looking to update their gardens, do landscaping,
6 they will come in, view the products, get advice,
7 and --
8 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay.
9 MS . DOLLINGER: Does that help to
10 answer?
11 ' CHAIRMAN HARKER: Yeah, I 'm sure -- I
12 think it ' s going to be kind of like Winding
13 Creek .
14 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON: Yeah, absolutely.
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15 But in Yorkville .
16 CHAIRMAN HARKER : But in Yorkville,
17 exactly. Okay .
18 , MS . HORAZ : I have a concern about the
19traffic, speed limit around there and the
20 entrance --
21 ' CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay.
22 MS . HORAZ : -- as far as IDOT and --
231 MS . NOBLE : Right . So both streets or
24 ! roadways that they are adjacent to, 71 and 126,
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1 are regulated by IDOT, so we do not control the
2 speed limit on those streets, on those roadways .
3 However, they would need to get a
4 permit from IDOT, and IDOT would take all of that
5 into consideration on the location of the
6 entrance, decelerate .
7 MS . HORAZ : Right, because they don ' t
8 have -- it ' s pretty dangerous there .
9 MS . NOBLE : Right, have to decelerate .
10 So the petitioner has submitted a petition to
11 IDOT and they have not gotten a response back
12 from IDOT . As you do know, IDOT does have plans
13 for 71 .
14 ' MS . HORAZ : Right .
15 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Yeah.
16 MS . NOBLE : Widening for that . They do
17 have plans for 126, that ' s just not funded yet,
18 so it ' s down the road, but they would be
19 considering all of that when they issue the
201 permit to the petitioner .
MS . DOLLINGER: And we have been working
22 with IDOT in developing a concept plan and we did
23 initially make some applications based on some of
24 their comments , and so the access points on our
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1 most current concept plan have been preliminarily
2 approved by IDOT, but we will have to get the
3 permits and go through their process, so they
4 will be reviewing our plans as well .
5 ; CHAIRMAN HARKER: I think, you know, a
6 concern of mine is parcel one, as far as the
7 traffic on 71, is coming out of there, you know,
8 because they ' re going to be -- you ' re going to be
9 ' hauling stuff with like tractors and hay racks,
10 or how are you going to get it there?
11 ; MR. HIVELY : It would be trucks --
12 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Semis?
13 MR. HIVELY : -- and trailers .
14 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay.
15 ° MR. HIVELY : Yeah, it won ' t be hay
16 wagons down 71 .
17 ' CHAIRMAN HARKER : Okay. Yeah, that ' s
18 what I was thinking . I ' m like man, that ' s going
19 to be dangerous pulling out and then having --
20 okay. Okay .
21 MR. MARCUM: Is this business already in
22 operation someplace or is this a start-up
23 operation?
24 MS . DOLLINGER: This is going to be --
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1 this is a new retail business .
2 MR. HIVELY : Yeah, I have a landscaping
3 company now, I am planning to open this as a
4 separate business from that .
5 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Would you identify
6 yourself, please?
7 MR. HIVELY : Matt Hively .
8 MS . NOBLE : And do you mind speaking
9 into the microphone? Our court reporter isn ' t
10 here, so she ' ll be taking the information from
I1 the recording .
12 MR. HIVELY : Okay.
13 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Go ahead and say your
14 name again, please .
15 MR. HIVELY : Matt Hively.
16 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay.
17 ' MS . NOBLE : And then do you want to
18 respond?
19 MR. HIVELY : It ' s going to be a new
20 business . I have a landscaping company already
21 and it ' s just another business venture, you know.
22 , MR. VINYARD: Is the landscaping company
23 the one down the street?
24 MR. HIVELY : No .
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1 , MR. VINYARD: Okay .
2 MR. HIVELY : We used to run out of
3 there, but we are in Oswego now.
4 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay.
5 ' MS . DOLLINGER: So it ' s an expansion of
6 an existing landscape business .
7 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Excellent . And do you
8 do like pergolas and hardscape stuff also?
9 MR. HIVELY : Yeah, doing kind of some
10 lawn furniture, plants, sawmill to make some
11 pergolas, you know, benches, you know, just kind
12 of a different garden center .
13 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay.
14 MR. HIVELY : It ' s not going to be just
15 ' plants . I have some stuff like that, too .
16 '; CHAIRMAN HARKER : All right .
17 ' VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : Personally I 'm a
18 • little nervous how much money I 'm going to spend
19 ; there .
20 ; CHAIRMAN HARKER: All right .
21 MS . HORAZ : Matt, do you own the
22 property?
231 MR. HIVELY : We are in the process . We
24 have it under contract, so --
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1 MS . HORAZ : And how is it designated in
2 the Comprehensive Plan?
3 MS . NOBLE : So the Comprehensive Plan
4 does designate this area as estate residential,
5 and I will explain a little bit the history of
6 how we came about that .
7 When we did the Comprehensive Plan
8 starting in 2016, at that time we were just
9 coming out of the recession with the turnover of
10 the economy and where we were going, we were
11 trying to look for a vision, so the direction of
12 the Comprehensive Plan was to focus on the built
13 area of the community, and everything on the
14 outside, that didn' t have an active agreement
15 . where buildings were happening, we put it into a
16 place holding category, which is our estate
17 residential .
18 This area -- The horizon of that
19 Comp Plan is ten years, so we are about a third
20 of the way into it .
21 The parcel was deemed one of those
22 locations that we didn' t think anything was going
23 to happen because it ' s encumbered by an existing
24 ' annexation agreement which had retail as well as
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1 residential, so we put that in a holding
2 pattern.
3 When these petitioners came forward
4 saying that they were looking to move forward
5 with this parcel, we decided that we would look
6 at trying to get owners together to do one grand
7 amendment to that annexation agreement releasing
8 the obligation so that they could move forward;
9 however, we weren ' t able to get all of the
10petitioners , or the owners to be petitioners in
11 that agreement, so the process that we ' re taking
12 ' is being piecemeal, it ' s a parcel-by-parcel
13 addressing of the issue, so what we are doing
14 separately from the PZC meeting tonight, is we
15 are having a public hearing at City Council on
16 the 26th and at that time we will amend the
17 annexation agreement to release the obligations
18 ' of that very large -- and in your packet you have
19 that very large, possibly unrealistic plan, and
20 , then allow each parcel owner, correct, each
21 parcel owner to come in, rezone the property to a
22 more appropriate land use, and then move forward
23 with that .
24 MR. VINYARD: I can see this as being an
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1 issue with other places within the city. Is
2 there something that we can do to maybe address
3 this and make it an easier transition, or are we
4 going to have to do this every time somebody else
5 comes?
6 MS . NOBLE : So this is a unique case .
7 Are you referring to just this parcel or the
8 amendment to the Comprehensive Plan?
9 MR. VINYARD: No, I 'm clarifying it in
10 general because I am certain there is other
11 places within our Comprehensive Plan that we
12 could possibly see something like this --
13 MS . NOBLE : Sure . Sure .
14 MR. VINYARD: -- and there was kind of
15 that middle ground area, we don' t know exactly
16 what to do with it, so went with this .
17 MS . NOBLE : Yes .
18 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : The Comprehensive
19 Plan is a guide, it ' s not --
20 MR. VINYARD: Exactly.
21 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON: Right? So as long
22 as we stay true to what the intent is, not
23 necessarily what it ' s designated as -- we ' re not
24 going to put an industrial building across the
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1 street from --
2 MR . VINYARD: Is there something -- I 'm
3 fine with this . Is there something that we can
4 do to streamline this so that we don ' t --
5 MS . NOBLE : Sure .
6 MR. VINYARD: -- have to keep going
7 through --
8 MS . NOBLE : Sure . So what the process
9 is -- So two things . You do value the
10 Comprehensive Plan as a guide, as Jeff mentioned .
11 It does have some legal standing
121 because it has to be adopted by the community,
13 but you have the ability to amend it, and that ' s
14 the process .
15 So at the end of the year, staff
16 ' brings a lot of the projects that have come
17 through that were approved that had deviations
18 from that plan and we present it to you and amend
19the document .
20 So it ' s a living document, it
21 ' changes , and just as rezoning changes , you know,
22 the land use, we would do that, too .
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24 going to happen, possibly we could do that, but
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1 we let the market kind of dictate, you know.
2 MR. VINYARD: I just didn ' t know if this
3 was going to be the same stuff for the next time
4 this came through and if we could save --
5 MS . NOBLE : Sure .
6 ' MR. VINYARD: -- a little bit of time
7 and energy on everyone ' s side to streamline it,
81 but -- Okay .
9 MS . NOBLE : It will be unfortunately for
10 this particular parcel, because it has I think 12
11I individual owners .
12 ' VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON: Somebody brings
13 something to us every once in a while, we get to
14 have input on it .
15 MR. VINYARD: Yeah, no, I agree .
16 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON: I don ' t want it to
17 be too streamlined and then it ' s taken out of our
18 hands and our opinions and -- so .
19 ' MS . NOBLE : Right .
20 MR. VINYARD: Point taken .
21 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Thank you .
22 MS . DOLLINGER : You are welcome .
23 ! MS . HORAZ : You know, I always thought
24 this area would be more like retail stores ,
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1 grocery, as the foundation lots . The hospital
2 was supposed to go there .
3 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Across the street .
4 MR. VINYARD: That ' s a lot of houses
5 through the area there .
6 MS . NOBLE : Yes .
7 ; MR. VINYARD: Landscaping and pergolas
8 and chairs and stuff .
9 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : I plan on retiring
10 in the future subdivision across the street
11 ' there on 71 that ' s not built yet, it ' s meant to
12be, so --
13 , MS . HORAZ : So you ' re going to need a
14 nursery.
15 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : So I 'm going to
16 need a nursery across the street .
17 MR. WILLIAMS : I don ' t want to drive to
18 Winding Creek every time, so I mean, if it ' s
19 got just a place . There is plenty of
20 subdivisions around .
21 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON : And if you look on
22 the -- you know, what our requirements are to
23 meet in order to do it, one of them is I think
24 there is a need for it .
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1 MS . NOBLE : Correct . Public need.
2 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Yeah.
3 MS . HORAZ : Yeah, it ' s on this page .
4 MS . DOLLINGER : And, you know, Matt is
5 going to be creating a lot of jobs here, talking
6 about 30, 35 jobs .
7 ' CHAIRMAN HARKER : Mm-hum. Yeah .
8 ' MS . DOLLINGER: And also it ' s a big
9 sales tax generator for the city.
10 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Absolutely.
11 MS . DOLLINGER : People spend a lot of
12 money. I know if you see what I spend every
13 year at my landscape --
14 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Me, too .
15 ' MS . DOLLINGER : As a matter of fact, I
16 gave them my initial spot that I gave, I gave
17 , them my --
18 CHAIRMAN HARKER: That ' s right . Yeah .
19 ' Okay. Excellent .
20 MS . DOLLINGER: Winding Creek, love
21 ,, them, too, but I ' m just saying, this in
22 Yorkville, now they will be able to get a lot of
23 things . These type of centers, they carry things
24 ' you can ' t buy in other places .
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1 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Correct, yeah . And,
2 actually, you know, thinking about it more,
3 once -- if it gets approved and everything they
4 have it built and all that good stuff, you know,
5 it actually might close a slow down a little bit
6 on 71 , you know what I mean?
7 Especially if you' re coming
8 around that -- if you ' re coming like into town
9 from -- and you ' re heading west on 71, as you
10 come down the hill . That would be nice .
11 MR. HIVELY : Yeah, I ' m going to
12 landscape it real nice, and I mean, the building
13 is going to look nice, I ' ve got a bunch of
14 handmade beams from a barn we took down, I 'm
15 going to make the front porch out of . I ' m going
16 to build everything right .
17 ' CHAIRMAN HARKER : Cool . Very nice .
18 Does anybody else have any questions for them
19 right now?
20 No response . )
21 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Okay. All right .
22 Thank you.
23 MS . DOLLINGER : Thank you .
24 MR. HIVELY: Thank you.
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1 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. Anybody here
2 that would like to speak that ' s in favor of the
3 , request that ' s being heard?
4 ! No response . )
5 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Anybody that would
6 like to speak that ' s opposed to the request being
7 heard?
8 No response . )
9 ! CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. Questions? Any
10 more questions?
11 No response . )
12 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay, none . All
13 right .
14 Seeing that all the testimony has
15 been taken, may I get a motion to close out of
16 ' the public hearing and close the Petition Number
17 PZC 2019-03?
18 MR. VINYARD: So moved.
19 MR . MARCUM: Second .
20 CHAIRMAN HARKER: Okay. Public hearing
21 is now closed.
221 MS . NOBLE : Roll call .
23 CHAIRMAN HARKER: What ' s that?
24 MS . NOBLE : Roll call .
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1 , CHAIRMAN HARKER: Roll call on the
2 motion . Thank you.
3 MS . YOUNG: Horaz .
4 MS . HORAZ : Yes .
5 MS . YOUNG: Markham.
6 MR. MARKHAM: Yes .
7 MS . YOUNG: Olson.
8 VICE-CHAIRMAN OLSON: Yes .
9 ' MS . YOUNG: Vinyard.
10 MR . VINYARD : Yes .
11MS . YOUNG: Williams .
12 MR . WILLIAMS : Yes .
13 MS . YOUNG: Harker .
14 CHAIRMAN HARKER : Yes .
15 All right .
16 Which were all the
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1 STATE OF ILLINOIS )
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2 COUNTY OF LASALLE )
3 I, Christine M. Vitosh, a Certified Shorthand
4 , Reporter, do hereby certify that I transcribed
5 the proceedings from the audio recording taken at
6 the meeting and that the foregoing, Pages 1
7 through 25, inclusive, is a true, correct and
8 ' complete computer-generated transcript of the
9 proceedings had at the time and place aforesaid .
10 I further certify that my certificate annexed
I1 hereto applies to the original transcript and
121 copies thereof, signed and certified under my
13 hand only. I assume no responsibility for the
14 , accuracy of any reproduced copies not made under
15 , my control or direction.
16As certification thereof, I have hereunto set
17 my hand this 29th day March, A. D . , 2019 .
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