Loading...
COW Minutes 2000 07-20-00 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES JULY 20, 2000 Attendees: Mayor Prochaska Dan Kramer Rose Spears Jim Nanninga Valerie Burd Joe Wywrot Mike Anderson J.T. Johnson Dave Dockstader Bill Wedge Rich Sticka Larry Kot See list attached to permanent record for guests in attendance PARKS & RECREATION PRESENTATION ON TRAILS Tabled to a future agenda ENGINEERING ENTERPRISES - WATER STUDY REPORT & UPDATE Peter Wallers and Jeffrey Freeman narrated a slide presentation outlining the various options to deal with the radium issue and the future water needs for the City of Yorkville. The presentation covered the wells, quantity, quality, storage, and distribution of water, as well as a water main break inventory. They evaluated our needs and our current use, and projected our needs for the future. They did and evaluation of the system and presented the City with alternatives. They recommended a new well be installed along with an elevated tank near the intersection of route #47 and Galena Road. They did a financial analysis, and prepared a summary for use to the EPA who require that we start with the worst case scenario and work form that position, and then add grant money, etc. to bring all issues to the best possible option. Engineering Enterprises then prepares an implementation plan and works with us through the various states to the public hearing and to receiving the approval of the Illinois EPA. Alderman Sticka asked about the level of radium that was acceptable and could our system be lowered enough to meet the standard. Mr. Freeman stated the acceptable level is expected to be set at 20 pCI /L. Mr. Sticka asked if the EPA lowered it to 0, could we meet the standard. This is expected to be imposed in November or early in 2001 and we would have 3 years to comply. Mr. Freeman stated this would be almost impossible. Alderman Kot stated that it is critical that the City seek grant money and any assistance that may be available. 1 Mayor Prochaska stated that he has started discussion with state and federal officials, and Speaker Hastert. The EPA has mandated this without any funding being made available. Alderwoman Burd asked if the land fill near the proposed north well presents any danger to the water there. Mr. Freeman stated they did not believe there was any danger because the water there is a huge reservoir, but would document better before sinking a well in that area. But, they don't think there would be any influence. Alderman Dockstader stated maybe they should raise the radium standard, reports show it is good for you. Mr. Freeman stated the government cannot raise the content of anything unless it is documented good for you, so even if 5 was too low, they couldn't raise the level. Alderman Sowinski stated we should follow through in the process to accept this report. Mayor Prochaska stated this should be put on the agenda for City Council to proceed with the process. I PC 99 -11 COURTHOUSE SO_UARE - REVISED PLAN This is to be tabled to the next COW and the public hearing to be tabled to a later date. Mayor Prochaska stated that he had mis- stated at the last EDC meeting, and that in fact anyone can look at an agreement. That when it is brought into a public meeting it becomes public. Once a document is going to be discussed in a public meting it is available to the public through Freedom of Information. PC 2000 - PRA IRIE GARDEN - ANNEXATION AGREEMENT Mr. Niles stated he would go through the list of items in the PUD. IDOT is requiring a deceleration lane on route #47, and re- striping and a center turn lane will be put in. This is common and he will go back to IDOT and these things will be incorporated into the engineering. In regard to landscaping he is asking for what they have show on their plan which is close to what that City ordinance requires, but is still short in the parkways. Mr. Niles stated he had counted the trees along the south and western property border finding 191 on the south and 211 along the west. Mayor Prochaska asked if all these trees were on his side of the property line. Mr. Niles said no, but a some of them are, and he would like to use 2 1/2" trees instead of 3" trees as required in our landscape ordinance. Alderman Sticka stated he felt that 2 1/2" trees were acceptable. 2 I i i Alderman Dockstader stated that size trees are hard to find. Mr. Niles stated that 78 trees is more than the ordinance requires. Alderman Sticka asked if Mr. Niles has said our ordinance requires too many trees, is this true everywhere. In a general sense should we be looking at our ordinance for all developments. Mayor Prochaska stated that since this is townhomes it may be difficult to find enough space to plant them due to driveways and the short distance between units. We want to take our ordinance and Mr. Schoppe's recommendation seriously, and placement may be an issue. Mr. Niles stated that smaller trees that don't grow as big could be put in between. He also stated that the Park Board had said that no part of the trail would be considered as part of the land cash contribution and asked if any of the other areas of the open space in Prairie Garden that they would consider as part of the land cash contribution. He asked that the Park Board and City Council consider connecting his trails to trails in Greenbriar and Sunflower, and felt his trails should be considered since he is constructing them for seniors to get out and walk. He proposes they be 8' wide blacktop. Alderman Sowinski asked if he has considered 10' wide trails as that is the City standard. Mr. Niles stated he felt 8 ft is sufficient. Attorney Kramer stated that an 8' wide trail would have to be maintained by the developer. Mayor Prochaska stated that the City Ordinance requires 10' wide trails and if we are going to accept 8' wide trails on a regular basis we need to look at the ordinance. This is more complete than just a trail, and if it is expecting to be connected to other trails then is should be 10' wide. Otherwise, he does not see anyone else coming into this area to walk the trails. Alderman Sowinski stated that a trail for seniors to get exercise should be given some consideration. Alderman Sticka stated this has as much value as a tot lot for kids, and referenced the trails in Lisle's Green Trails subdivision. Mr. Wedge of the Park Board stated that 10' wide trails are the national standard. Alderman Sticka stated that this is a mis- conception and actually there is no national standard, the 10' wide trails are a recommendation by the AASHT as an official standard. Mr. Wedge stated that the Park Board Master Plan goes to the western edge of Greenbriar. Mr. Niles asked if it could go into Sunflower. 3 i Mr. Anderson asked if the earlier Master Plan considered this area. Mr. Wedge stated, yes it had. Alderman Dockstader stated we have to decide what our standard will be. Walking is popular, but we need more history on this issue. Mayor Prochaska stated we also need to look at the land cash issue to resolve these kind of situations, and to provide recreation for this area. Actually, it does not have to be public. We can say it is worth something, but those people will still use the Beecher Center and Town Square Park, but they will use this trail as recreation. Mr. Wedge stated that these trails would be used strictly by the residents. Mayor Prochaska stated that even though they have a unit that will be used as a community space , this space can be converted back to a living unit, and they wouldn't have the programs that are available at the Beecher Center. Alderman Dockstader asked what the cost of the trails and the land cash amount. Mr. Nanninga stated the land cash is $46,000. Mr. Niles stated that the cost of the trails is $36,000 to $37,000. He is asking for 50 %. Mayor Prochaska asked what the acreage is. Mr. Niles stated 15 acres, and the path easement is 2 acres. Mayor Prochaska stated that every piece of residential requires green open space, 70% is required. Mayor Prochaska asked for comments from the Council on what credit should be given. All Council members present agreed that Mr. Niles should get some land cash credit. Alderman Sowinski stated this does not meet the City's own guidelines. Alderman Anderson stated we covered this with the Marker development and we needed to look at the guidelines then, we need to look at them now. Alderman Dockstader stated that Mr. Niles could do the development without the trail, but it is much nicer with it. Mr. Wedge stated he wouldn't want to live in a development with a path around his house. How will they handle a senior with a heart attack on the trail. 4 i Alderman Anderson stated Kane County drives on those 8 foot trails all the time. Mr. Wedge stated then the ordinance needs to be changed. Alderman Anderson stated this was determined after the Marker development. WE need to review the ordinance. Mayor Prochaska stated that if we want to reduce the width required, we should have started this discussion at the Park Board meeting. Alderman Sowinski stated the Park Board wants 10 foot wide trails. Mayor Prochaska stated that something less than 10 feet should be considered, as a small park would cost around $15,000. Mr. Wedge asked if the pathways in the center of the development were included in his figures. Mr. Niles stated they were not included. Mayor Prochaska stated these residents will use other facilities, so some credit should go for the other facilities and also for future land purchases. I would suggest 1/3 which is $16,000. with the appropriate language that they are to maintain the trail, and if the City takes it over it will be brought to City standards. Mr. Niles stated that Marker g of 60 %. Mayor Prochaska stated that Marker had way over the acreage of the open space required, and also put in a park. Mr. Niles stated he was asking for 50 %. Mayor Prochaska stated he put $15,500. on the table based on our Park Board policy and the fact that this will not be publicly owned. The City doesn't have to accept the trails, but if the City does, then it must met the City standard. Alderman Sowinski stated we should give him more than 1/3, give him 40 %. Alderman Sticka stated 50 %. Alderman Kot stated 40 %. Alderman Dockstader stated 50 %. Alderman Anderson stated 50 %. Alderman Burd stated 50 %. Alderman Spears stated 50 %. Mayor Prochaska stated the Council has decided, so give his 50 %, which is $23,000. Mr. Nilies stated that with no occupancy in the models some items should be taken off. Mayor Prochaska stated that hook -ups should be paid and development fees for Public Works, Fire, etc. are being deferred on the models. 5 i Alderman Sowinski stated that we need to look at landscaping for the commercial areas. Mayor Prochaska stated this will be in the agreement. PC 2000 -07 POTTINGER ANNEXATION & REZONING AND PC 99 -08 HERREN ANNEXATION & REZONING Attorney Kramer stated that Mr. Nanninga has asked for some changes, Kendall County has been pushing us. The parking has been resurfaced. The states attorney has said annex or they will pursue there court hearings. Pottinger and Herren need to come back with an agreement. Pottinger will have the front 800 feet as B -3 and all of the back portion will be R -2 Single Family. Mayor Prochaska stated the improvements on page five will be completed within the deadline date. Ms. Herren stated that Pottinger and Rusty are working together to possibly put a road in. They have contacted the state who must have smashed a field tile when they did some work there that has created a wet spot. i Mayor Prochaska asked Mr. Nanninga to talk to IDOT about the area. I Attorney Kramer stated there is a 120 day provision to get improvements done, or Kendall County won't back off of enforcement of the ordinance. Ms. Herren stated that puts them into Fall and they may not be able to get paving done all blacktop companies are booked solid. i Attorney Kramer stated the deadline is November 20,2000, and having a deadline is more helpful than not, since it keeps Kendall County from prosecuting. Mayor Prochaska stated perhaps if they had a contract with Aurora Blacktop, the City could extend the deadline. Notify Rusty and Pottinger. I Attorney Kramer stated the same time frame has to be filled in other issues, crates being kept inside, etc. Not using Bonnie Lane or Legion Road as a test track and Rusty has agreed to work with us on these issues. City Council for July 27, 2000. PC 2000 -09 ENRON PEAK POWER PLANT Attorney Kramer stated that Karen Way has reviewed the agreement. Now it will be put in the City's format. There are a couple of things to be clarified. The City requires that the owners sign the agreement before it is voted on. The owners request that it read that they will annex only if 6 Enron purchased the property. Additionally they want something regarding the YBSD new fees since they will have very little sewer use. These issues transcend and need to be discussed with YBSD. Perhaps YBSD could do a straight fee. Mayor Prochaska stated they had met with YBSD to discuss the small use. Attorney Kramer stated that in the City the proposed use is a permitted use in M -2, whereas in Kendall County it is a Special Use. This will go next to City Council for a public hearing on July 27, 2000. PC 2000 -10 ROSENWINKEL ANNEXATION & REZONING, Attorney Kramer explained that this is at the corner of Corniels and Beecher and adjoins the Industrial Park. The Plan Commission had no objectors and they are ready to act next week at City Council. There is one more property to annex the second Rosenwinkel's parcel, but we are not there yet. Mayor Prochaska asked about an easement along the creek. Attorney Kramer stated that as this property is dissected by the Rob Roy Creek, it is a perfect place to run a sanitary sewer and also do a trail. The Rosenwinkels are reluctant since they are not ready to develop this property yet and don't want to at this time. We will reserve free easements. Mayor Prochaska asked if general terms could be included. He wants to see some identified easements. This can go to City Council on July 27, 2000. PC 2000 -12 YORKVILLE BUSINESS PARK - FINAL PLAT. Mr. Wywrot stated he has reviewed the Final Plat, there is a Letter -of- credit to record, and they need a plan for public improvements. Attorney Kramer stated this could go for approve based on final Engineering Plans. Mayor Prochaska stated there is no value with no preliminary engineering as it can't be recorded, this needs to be tabled to August unless Wywrot gets engineering plans. COUNTRYSIDE.., PARKWAY IMPROVEMENTS The amount of the reduction is $1790.76. This should go to City Council on July 27, 2000 for a vote. YBSD INVOICE PAYMENT, This represents 50% of the cost, and we have copies of the invoices. Mayor Prochaska stated this is for the plan they need to get funding for the plant expansion. This should go to City Council for a vote on July 28, 2000. f t-c Gu J aO �2 0—, ADDITIONAL BUSINESS YORK MEADOWS APARTMENTS Attorney Kramer stated York Meadows will be starting construction with new plans. They will have back loading garages, a better look and it doesn't have to be a private road. Alderman Sowinski asked if it meets City Specifications. Mr. Nanninga stated it should meet City Specs, but the road does look like a private driveway even though it isn't. Attorney Kramer stated they would have the same number or less units, and will start two foundations right away. Probably within the next two weeks. STATE FAIR Mayor Prochaska stated that he would have a sign -up sheet for the "Officials Day" at the State Fair, and anyone interested is entitled to a free lunch and show. SHELVING Alderman Sticka stated there was an error in the newspaper. It stated that the cost for shelving would be $19,000. when in fact it was not to exceed $9000. MILL STREET SIDEWALK Mr. Wywrot stated that installing the new sidewalk on Mill Street which was included in the 2000 Budget is presenting a problem. Making this 5 feet wide per City Specifications won't work, and he recommends we install a 4 foot sidewalk only on Mill Street. The sidewalk on Orange Street would be 5 feet wide. Mayor Prochaska stated you have to look at existing conditions in these situations to make it work. LEASE AGREEMENT J.T. stated this needs signatures I MOBILE OFFICE Chief Graff stated the Park Board had discussion on this, and expect to accept a donation of about $40,000. If the Park Board accepts this, we should put on City Council Agenda for July 27, 2000 for acceptance. We will find someone to donate some minor roof repairs at no cost. Mr. Dettmer said it was a good building. It had won a prize for best design of a mobile office. It was used for Real Estate. Mayor Prochaska stated that if anyone comes into Yorkville, we require them to put in a foundation for a manufactured home. We need to follow this also, and it needs a foundation. 8 i Alderman Anderson stated that if we can't find a suitable location, we can sell the building with the proceeds going to fund earmarked for kids. Could be seed money for next year, or the Skate Park or for future maintenance. Alderman Sowinski stated find a site for it and forgo the rent at Pinwood. Use if for a Family Resource Center and make it community wide instead of apartments and save the rent. Alderman Dockstader stated we need to plan for maintenance, Janitor and other hidden costs. Chief Graff stated they would like to get it of their site, but would be willing to wait for a short while. Mayor Prochaska stated he would like to see a proposed site with a plan for water, sewer, and electric. And, line items need to be planned for. Chief Graff stated he would keep the Mayor informed and won't rush. August 10, 2000 would be the first opportunity to consider. Mayor Prochaska asked for additional discussion. With none, the meeting was adjourned at 9:48 P.M. i I Minutes by Sandy Marker i 9 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE SIGN IN SHEET COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING THURSDAY, JULY 20, 2000 NAME (PLEASE PRINT!) REPRESENTING PHONE # 3- K�z �o 7 5 :5 7 3 ��- S 5 Z� Gc�P ,