COW Minutes 2001 03-01-01 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MINUTES
MARCH 1, 2001
7:00 PM
Attendees:
Mayor Prochaska Rose Spears Dan Kramer
Richard Sticka Valerie Burd Mike Schoppe
Paul James Marty Munns Jim Nanninga
Mike Anderson Larry Kot Joe Wywrot
2001 -02 YORKVILLE BUSINESS PARK
Mayor Prochaska stated this project was moving ahead with their Final Plat.
Alderman Sticka stated there were no surprises at EDC and the Committee recommends it go to
City Council next week.
TIF - Re- development Budget
Mayor Prochaska stated the everyone had gotten a booklet for the TIF. He would like Holly to
have some direction, but wants to be sure of the information. As part of the budget on page 22,
he asked if there were upgrade sheets for storm sewers and drainage for the Fox Industrial Park.
Ms. Baker stated that the consultants had added some items that we didn't decide on and they
should not be included. We did add expenses to be included, but out of pocket only.
Mayor Prochaska stated the public works and improvements show $900,000.
City Engineer Wywrot stated the estimate reduces this amount to $600,000.
Ms. Baker stated this is based on numbers on a traditional TIF, a 23 year TIF. We would have to
start the amendment process all over and spend more.
Engineer Wywrot stated we planned to reconstruct a section of Wolf.
Alderman Sticka asked if Wywrot was comfortable with this amount.
Wywrot stated the amount was more than comfortable.
Alderman James asked if as this moves forward the City Council approves.
Ms. Baker stated no, but yes. From this point, we will have a new plan tomorrow with all the
revisions. The Joint Review Board will meet 3/19/2001 at 2:00 PM and make a
recommendation. The City Council will vote to adopt this plan and it then becomes a plan.
1
Engineer Wywrot stated it will be bid out and the City Council will vote to accept a bid.
Mayor Prochaska stated this will follow the same City Council procedure as any other City
project. He instructed Administrator Nanninga to take out the $900,000. and put in $700,000..
Item 4 has more add ons that we don't want, and both additional items as well. Ours is to include
only 2 of these items, Planning and Legal, and Public Works & Improvements.
Alderman Sticka stated he agreed that the Council never discussed and do not want these items.
Alderman Anderson asked there is a figure estimate.
stated that this is based on other TIFS. The have had to explain several ite h e
Ms. Baker ms to Y p
consultant. Pages 11 and 12 will need to be modified due to taking things out and revising the
numbers.
Mayor Prochaska stated it is unfair to the taxing bodies and owners, asking if we are OK to go
ahead and make these changes.
The Council agreed, stating yes.
PC 2000 -24 FOX MILL
Attorney Kramer stated this had been approved at the COW already, but the petitioner has asked
for a couple of changes.
Mayor Prochaska stated the PUD was in place and it could go to City Council.
i
Alderwoman Burd asked if this included the sewer.
I
Engineer Wywrot stated No, some storm sewer was shown on Hydraulic, but they planned to
grade a swale and drain to the west and to the inlet.
Alderwoman Burd stated they had discussed drainage at the last meeting.
Engineer Wywrot stated the water would go to the Railroad property and then flow west. The
tentative agreement was in lieu of storm sewer which was making that drain functional.
Alderman Sticka asked about the original agreement.
Engineer Wywrot stated there was an agreement with Darren Sloniger quite a while ago.
Alderwoman Burd stated there was discussion of some sort of drain at the last meeting.
Mayor Prochaska asked if it could flow this way.
Engineer Wywrot stated he believed it could, it is predicated on making it flow.
2
I
i
i
Alderwoman Burd asked if they would grade her property.
Engineer Wywrot stated yes.
Mayor Prochaska stated the change was to allow the flow to go over land.
Engineer Wywrot stated site plan revisions were to include alignment of the Burd driveway. The
alternative we be putting in the storm sewer pipe and Paul Burd said there is no room for it.
Mayor Prochaska stated this will be subject to engineering plan approval and language that if it
doesn't go this way, it will go to pipe. No pooling between the tracks and front yard.
Alderman Anderson asked if there was a preference of one over the other.
Mayor Prochaska stated we will rely on the agreement that Engineer Wywrot has worked on this,
this week to see how it works. He will review the engineering plan.
Engineer Wywrot stated this project has been dormant.
Mayor Prochaska asked Wywrot to determine if it will flow.
Engineer Wywrot stated he believed that it will, but under what conditions. The re- grading is to
the Burd's benefit. The water goes to the Railroad bed anyway.
Attorney Kramer stated you can't alter drainage unless it goes there anyway.
Alderwoman Burd asked if the railroad would allow drainage to run under the railroad bed
between the tracks.
Mayor Prochaska stated this should come back to COW in two weeks.
PC 2000 -19 FISHER RE- ZONING
Attorney Kramer stated this already got as far as City Council and was ready for passage, but our
Comprehensive Plan shows a commuter station on this parcel. As a result we have decided to
consider zoning of B -3 with M -1 uses, and if the commuter station does locate on this site it
would revert to R -3 residential. That is the only change from the original agreement, if it doesn't
locate here it would stay the same.
Mayor Prochaska stated the M -1 uses were in the agreement, but had not been discussed.
Attorney Kramer stated this is a good opportunity for both the City and the petitioner.
Mayor Prochaska stated this should now go to City Council.
3
i
I
NOISE ORDINANCE
Alderman Kot stated there is a change to the draft to reflect the fine amount. A blank has been
left for Bill Dettmer to give a recommendation for noise level so we can get this moving. Chief
Graff had stated he felt perhaps 70 DB. He would like to see this move to City Council with
hopes of getting the appropriate number form Mr. Dettmer. He would like this passed as quickly
as possible.
Mayor Prochaska asked if there is a standard on this.
Alderman Sticka asked where the standard comes from, and why quickly. Can we get a
demonstration on noise level.
Alderman Munns stated a gun shot is about 80 DB.
Alderman James stated we should get a meter first.
Alderman Sticka agreed that we need to get a feel for the various noise levels and what the DB is
for each of them.
Alderman Munns stated you can get equipment to measure at Radio Shack.
Alderman Sticka stated he wanted to get a fee for how load something is.
I
I
Alderman Kot stated he wants this on the books for Spring.
Alderman Sticka stated he wanted to know how loud 70 DB is.
Mayor Prochaska asked if Administrator Nanninga would get with Chief Graff on this.
Alderman Kot stated there is a list as part of Bill Dettmer's memo.
Mayor Prochaska stated it doesn't hurt to know how loud a DB is.
Alderman Kot stated he was OK with taking this to the next COW to get information and do
noise tests.
Alderwoman Burd asked how this would affect what happened last year with the PNA Camp.
Mayor Prochaska stated we could then go to Kendall County and ask for an intergovernmental
agreement.
Alderman Kot stated we could go to Kendall County to seek their getting this under control.
Mayor Prochaska stated that it is important and there is some urgency to get it done before the
issue comes up.
4
Alderman Kot stated sooner.
Mayor Prochaska stated this should go back to COW in 2 weeks. Have a list from Chief Graff or
Mr. Dettmer and the ability to have a demonstration, so everyone knows what 70 DB's is.
Alderwoman Burd asked if Disturbing the Peace charges can be levied.
Attorney Kramer stated this is a Public Nuisance.
Alderman Munns stated the police can enforce and be compliant.
I
WEATHER WARNING
Alderman Kot stated this is a carryover from last COW, and has gone on already.
EARLY RETIREMENT
Administrator Nanninga stated this allows employees who are eligible, plus Dan Kramer to buy 5
years of time. He has weighed the costs and can take from 5 to 9 years to pay off. The City
plans to pay it off in 5 years. One Public Works person will be replaced, for J.T. One will not be
replaced, and one will be replaced at entry level. There is a lot of savings.
Alderman Kot stated the State of Illinois has saved money. But, he is concerned about the brain
drain when people leave. This may not be a factor here.
Mayor Prochaska stated we don't have a lot of people eligible here. This will be offered one
time, and we can't offer again until the first debt from the first one is paid off. For us that is
seven years before we can offer again.
Alderman James stated there is a 60 day letter of intent required.
Administrator Nanninga stated this now only requires 1 day notice before retirement. �
Alderman James asked if there was anyone coming along in the next seven years that would be
affected by this being offered now.
I
Mayor Prochaska asked if the Council passes this can we set an effective date, or would that be
as soon as we had voted ?.
Attorney Kramer stated it would be when passed.
Administrator Nanninga stated that according to Techia we can set May 1 st as the date.
Mayor Prochaska stated we should take time to review, and he would expect an effective date of
May 1st if it is put into effect. Nanninga should check on limit and bring back to COW 3/15/01.
5
COLONIAL PARKWAY
City Engineer Wywrot stated that the low bidder was Aurora Blacktop at $116,000. Our
estimate was $124,000. and he feels this is a good bid, and includes sidewalk and stripping. He
expects this will be one of their first jobs when the plant opens in April, and he asked for the
Council to award.
I
Mayor Prochaska stated this was to go to City Council for consideration.
LONGEVITY PAY FOR ADMINISTRATION
Alderman Anderson stated this is simply to clear up a clerical problem on the books to make it
easier to administer.
Administrator Nanninga stated this needs to include over -time and the new way made it too time
consuming and confusing, so it will go back to being calculated hourly to make it easier on Kim.
Mayor Prochaska stated the labor attorney stated we have to pay this hourly, so we will go back
to the way we had done this before.
Administrator Nanninga stated we have already started.
Alderman Anderson stated this is information al only and requires no City Council action.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Alderman Munns asked about a light in Fox Hill to be done by Public Works.
I�
Engineer Wywrot stated pot holes were to be filled this week, but Paul Dresden's mother died
Friday and so we will fix this and send a bill. Regarding the light at Sycamore, we can get City
poles put up and forget the temporary ComEd poles. He will get this scheduled. J.T. had wanted
to contract this work out rather than having Public Works do it themselves.
Alderman Kot asked if the state was going to fix route #47.
Engineer Wywrot stated he would call them.
Alderman Sticka stated we need to extend the Southwest Cable contract.
i
Adjourned 8:20 PM
Minutes by Sandy Marker
i
6
I