Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes 2022 08-10-22APPROVED 10/12/22
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PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
City Council Chambers
800 Game Farm Road, Yorkville, Il
Wednesday, August 10, 2022 7:00pm
NOTE: In accordance with Public Act 101-0640 and Gubernatorial Disaster Proclamation issued
by Governor Pritzker pursuant to the powers vested in the Governor under the Illinois Emergency
Management Agency Act, the City of Yorkville is allowing remote attendance at this meeting and
social distancing is being encouraged due to the current Covid-19 pandemic.
Meeting Called to Order
Chairman Jeff Olson called the meeting to order at 7:00pm, roll was called and a quorum was
established.
Roll Call
Jeff Olson-yes/in-person
Danny Williams-yes/in-person
Deborah Horaz-yes/electronic attendance
Rusty Hyett-yes/electronic attendance
Absent: Greg Millen, Richard Vinyard
City Staff
Krysti Barksdale-Noble, Community Develo pment Director/in-person attendance
Jason Engberg, Senior Planner/in-person attendance
Other Guests
Chris Vitosh, Vitosh Reporting Service/electronic attendance
John McFarland, CalAtlantic/electronic attendance
Thomas Williamson, G.M.. Graham C Stores/in-person
David Courtright, Attorney, Yorkville Public Storage/in-person attendance
Susan Munson, Legacy Real Estate/in-person attendance
David Schultz, Engineer, HR Green/in-person attendance
Mark VanDonselaar, Graham C Store/in-person attendance
John & Janet Warnecke/in-person attendance
Rob Costello, Graham C Stores/in-person attendance
Todd Milliron/in-person attendance
Previous Meeting Minutes July 13, 2022
The minutes were approved as presented on a motion and second by Commissioners Horaz and
Williams, respectively.
Roll call: Olson-yes, Williams-yes, Horaz-yes, Hyett-yes. Carried 4-0.
Citizen’s Comments (see comments at end of meeting minutes)
Public Hearings
Chairman Olson stated there were two Public Hearings and he explained the procedure to be
followed. He swore in those who would present testimony for or against. The Public Hearings
were opened at 7:03pm on a motion and second by Commissioners Williams and Hyett,
respectively. Roll call: Williams-yes, Horaz-yes, Hyett-yes, Olson-yes. Carried 4-0.
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The Public Hearing descriptions were read by Chairman Olson:
1. PZC 2022-08 Thomas Williamson, on behalf of Graham C Stores Company,
petitioner, is seeking special use permit authorization, rezoning approval and a
variance to the sign regulations to develop a gasoline service station with accessory
convenience store. The real property is approximately 5.51 acres and is located at
the northeast corner of State Route 47 (Bridge Street) and State Route 71
(Stagecoach Trail) intersection
(See Court Reporter's Transcript of Proceedings)
(Petitioner requested the Standards to be entered into the official record)
2. 2022-17 David Courtright, attorney on behalf of CIG TSP LLC, GIG TSP AP LLC,
CIG TSP CFP LLC, CIG TSP K&SM II LLC, petitioners, is seeking variance
approval to permit permanent accessory structures closer to the public way than the
principal building on a lot and to permit expansion of a non-conforming use. The
real property is located at 1602 N. Bridge Street on the east side of Bridge Street
(State Route 47) and north of Veterans Parkway (U.S. 34). The petitioner is seeking
to keep their temporary storage containers currently located on the property as
permitted through a temporary building permit.
(See Court Reporter's Transcript of Proceedings)
(Petitioner requested the responses to the Standards be added to the official record)
After testimony was presented, a motion was made by Mr. Williams, seconded by Mr. Hyett, to
close the Public Hearings. Roll call: Williams-yes, Horaz-yes, Hyett-yes, Olson-yes.
Carried 4-0.
Unfinished Business None
New Business
1. PZC 2022-08 Thomas Williamson, Graham C Stores (see #1 above)
Ms. Noble said the Petitioner is making 3 requests under the Public Hearing process and also a
request for a Final Plat. The current zoning is M-1 and the site is 2 parcels totaling 5.5 acres.
Rezoning Request: The Petitioner is proposing to rezone to B-3, consistent with the Comp Plan
and staff supports this.
Special Use: Ms. Noble described the layout of the gas station when built. She discussed the site
plan and said the various setbacks and other requirements have been met. It was noted the
petitioner has agreed to signage on Rt. 71 so the ingress/egress is not blocked.
Sign Variance: A request for a 30-foot sign was made by the Petitioner, which staff compared to
the heights of other gas station signs. The maximum height allowed is 12 feet and 65 sq. ft sign
area. Ms. Noble said this request was negotiated down to 25 feet high and 168 feet sign area, but
staff is open to discussing a smaller sign. The sign material is consistent with requirements.
Final Plat: The Final Plat has been reviewed by the City Engineer and staff supports approval.
There are conditions established in staff's memo and comments from a July 14th engineer's memo,
both of which should be considered conditions of the Special Use. If the city grants the height
and size variance, the Economic Development Committee requests that there be a maximum of
one monument sign for this parcel.
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Commissioners' Discussion of Four Requests:
Rezoning: Chairman Olson read the Standards for Rezoning and the Commissioners had no
objection to the rezoning. Ms. Horaz asked who would maintain the access roads leading to Rt.
71 and Rt. 47. Engineer David Schultz said these roads will be maintained by IDOT while the
Petitioner will maintain the access on their property. The road around the back of the gas station
is private and will be maintained by the Petitioner.
Special Use: Mr. Olson read the Standards for a Special Use and all Commissioners were OK
with this.
Sign Variance: The Sign Variance Standards were read by Mr. Olson and all Commissioners
objected to the request for increased sign height and area. They agreed that the Petitioner could
have 2 monument signs, however, the Petitioner is only asking for one.
Final Plat: The Commissioners were OK with the Final Plat.
Action Items
Rezone Request
Motion for approval by Ms. Horaz and second by Mr. Williams. Mr. Williams read the motion as
follows: In consideration of testimony presented during a Public Hearing on August 10, 2022 and
approval of the findings of fact, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval to
the City Council of a request for a map amendment to rezone the property located at 107 E.
Stagecoach Trail from M-1 Limited Manufacturing District to B-3 General Business District.
Roll call: Horaz-yes, Hyett-yes, Olson-yes, Williams-yes. Carried 4-0.
Special Use
Motion for approval by Mr. Williams, second by Ms. Horaz. Mr. Williams read the motion as
follows: In consideration of testimony presented during a Public Hearing on August 10, 2022 and
approval of the findings of fact, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval to
the City Council of a request for Special Use authorization for a fuel/gasoline service station with
a convenience store to be located at 107 E. Stagecoach Trail subject to engineering review
comments provided by the City's consultant, EEI, Inc., in a letter dated July 14, 2022.
Roll call: Hyett-yes, Olson-yes, Williams-yes, Horaz-yes. Carried 4-0.
Sign Variance
Motion for approval by Ms. Horaz and second by Mr. Williams. Motion read by Mr. Williams
as follows: In consideration of testimony presented during a Public Hearing on August 10, 2022
and approval of the findings of fact, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval
of a request to vary the sign regulations contained in Section 10-20-9-A of the United City of
Yorkville Zoning Ordinance to permit a free standing monument sign in a business district that is
168 square feet in sign area and 25 feet in height, as depicted in a sign plan prepared by Image
FX Corp. and dated 5-31-22.
Roll call: Horaz-no, Hyett-no, Olson-no, Williams-no. Motion failed 0-4.
Ms. Noble asked if the Commissioners had a recommendation for the maximum height. Mr.
Williams suggested that the size could match competitors such as the Shell station across the
street, while Mr. Olson suggested a height within the code.
Final Plat
Motion for approval by Ms. Horaz and second by Mr. Williams who read the motion as follows:
The Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval to the City Council of a request for
Final Plat of Subdivision of the Graham C Subdivision in Yorkville prepared by HR Green and
dated last revised July 1, 2022.
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Roll call: Hyett-yes, Olson-yes, Williams-yes, Horaz-yes. Carried 4-0.
2. PZC 2022-14 John McFarland, on behalf of CalAtlantic Group, LLC, Petitioner,
is seeking Final Plat approval to subdivide the approximately 6.27-acre vacant parcel into 12
single-family units in Windett Ridge Unit 2. The subject property is generally located east of
South Bridge Street (IL Route 47) and south of Stagecoach Trail (IL Route 71) at the eastern edge
of Windett Ridge Road.
Ms. Noble said the original development was foreclosed and sold after the economic downturn.
CalAtlantic now wishes to finish the subdivision and is dividing the property into 12 single-
family units which is a reduction from an earlier land plan. The reason for the reduction is to
accommodate a 55,000 sq. ft. stormwater management easement and a required sanitary sewer lift
station. She said the lift station structure is required to match the look of the residential. The
Final Plat has been reviewed, comments have been met and staff recommends approval.
Action Item
Final Plat
A motion to approve the Final Plat was made and seconded by Commissioners Williams and
Horaz, respectively. The motion was read by Mr. Williams as follows: In consideration of the
proposed Final Plat of Subdivision for Windett Ridge Unit 2, the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommends approval of the plat to the City Council as prepared by Mackie
Consultants, LLC date last revised June 16, 2022.
Roll call: Olson-yes, Williams-yes, Horaz-yes, Hyett-yes. Carried 4-0.
3. PZC 2022-16 John McFarland, on behalf of CalAtlantic Group, LLC, Petitioner,
is seeking Final Plat approval to subdivide two (2) undeveloped parcels totaling approximately
22.77 into 62 lots consisting of 61 single-family units and and 37,809-square foot open space lot
in Caledonia - Phase 3. The proposed Final Plat would complete the buildout of the overall
master planned subdivision of 206 single family detached residential lots. The property is
generally located south of Corneils Road and west of Bridge Street.
Ms. Noble said Caledonia has gone through several owners and this is now the final phase. This
portion has 2 undeveloped parcels to be divided into 62 lots/61 homesites and an open space.
This will complete the development. She said a Plan Council meeting had been held earlier, all
comments have been addressed and staff recommends approval.
Action Item
Final Plat
Mr. Hyett moved and Mr. Williams seconded a motion for approval. Mr. Williams read the
motion as follows: In consideration of the proposed Final Plat of Caledonia Subdivision-Phase 3,
the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval of the plat to the City Council as
prepared by Spaceco, Inc., dated last revised 6-13-2022.
Roll call: Olson-yes, Williams-yes, Horaz-yes, Hyett-yes. Carried 4-0.
4. PZC 2022-17 Yorkville Storage (see #2 under Public Hearings, for full description
Mr. Engberg gave the background of this petition and why the requests are being made. He said
the lot where the storage buildings are situated, was annexed in the 70's and built in the 90's. The
previous owner asked to erect the mobile, temporary storage units and they were issued a permit
in 2021 to erect 38 storage units in the buildable area. The flag-shape of the lot made the area
unique. The units were being placed in the fall and it was found they were placed incorrectly and
the city was notified. A plan was made for correction and in January 2022 excess units were
removed. Three conditions to their building permit were issued: 1) units allowed for 6 months,
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2) maintain 2 off-street parking spaces and 3) after 6 months must remove units or apply for a
variance. July 31, 2022 was the 6-month deadline. The Petitioner has now asked for relief from
2 variances: 1) permanent accessory structures cannot be closer to the public way than the
primary structure, 2) wish to expand legally non-conforming use.
Chairman Olson said he did not favor temporary permits and that these units are temporary
structures operating as permanent structures. He said a permanent variance should not be given
for a temporary structure since the code requirements are different regarding public safety. Ms.
Noble said the units did meet the building code standards.
Mr. Engberg noted that if the 2 variances are granted, the storage facility can expand later. He
said the Comp Plan calls for higher design and buffering for this use and if the PZC approves,
staff will ask for buffering with landscaping and fencing. A plan sent this week by the Petitioner
would provide for buffering all around and an 8-foot privacy fence along the east property line.
Chairman Olson said he did not think the fencing was necessary and Ms. Horaz said she would
prefer landscaping rather than fencing.
Chairman Olson read the standards for both variances. It was noted that the units could be moved
around or removed. Commissioner Williams expressed concern that the staff had not yet been
able to review the landscape plan since it was just received this week.
Action Item
Variance
It was moved and seconded by Commissioners Williams and Horaz, respectively, to approve PZC
2022-17 Yorkville Self Storage. The motion was read by Mr. Williams as follows: In
consideration of testimony presented during a Public Hearing on August 10, 2022 and approval of
the findings of fact, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval to permit
accessory structures closer to the public right-of-way than the principal building and to permit the
expansion of a non-conforming use for the property located at 1602 N. Bridge Street, subject to
staff recommendations in a staff memo dated August 3, 2022. Those staff recommendations are:
the placement of the accessory structures must be consistent with the current layout of units as
illustrated in the submitted site plan dated 6-30-2022. An 8-foot privacy fence must be installed
along the rear property line to buffer the land use from adjacent properties. A landscape plan
must be submitted and approved which is consistent with the conditions of the landscape
ordinance regulations for perimeter parking lot landscaping per Section 8-12-2-C-2-b. When a
parking lot is adjacent to a public right-of-way, a landscape buffer yard shall be provided and
shall be the width of the required parking lot setback or thirty feet (30'), whichever is less. The
buffer yard shall consist of one (1) shade tree, one (1) evergreen tree and thirty-three (33) shrubs
per one hundred (100) linear feet of buffer yard.
Roll call: Williams-yes, Horaz-no, Hyett-no, Olson-yes. Ayes-2, Nays-2.
Ms. Noble will forward the decision to City Council.
Additional Business None
City Council Updates
1. PZC 2022-12 Bristol Bay: Ms. Noble said the Bristol Bay Units 10 and 12 Final
Plats were approved by the City Council on July 26.
Citizen Comments (out of sequence)
Mr. Todd Milliron said he attended the June PZC meeting where there was discussion regarding
the possible change of the county land use plan on S. Eldamain to include business/industrial
uses. He said the Silver Springs conservation officers oppose that possible change. He wished
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to inform this body so if this matter comes back for a recommendation, that the officers be
invited to provide input. He said the county did not ask for their input. He believes their
information is important since there are county and state parks nearby and he is concerned about
the possible impact.
Adjournment
There was no further business and the meeting was adjourned at 8:09pm on a motion by Mr.
Williams and second by Ms. Horaz. Unanimous voice vote.
Respectfully submitted by,
Marlys Young, Minute Taker/in-person attendance
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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
YORKVILLE, ILLINOIS
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
PUBLIC HEARING
800 Game Farm Road
Yorkville, Illinois
Wednesday, August 10, 2022
7 :00 p .m .
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PRESENT: (In-person and via Zoom)
Mr. Jeff Olson, Chairman,
Ms. Deborah Horaz,
Mr. Danny Williams,
Mr. Rusty Hyett.
ALSO PRESENT: (In-person and via Zoom)
Ms. Krysti Barksdale-Noble, Community
Development Director;
Mr. Jason Engberg, Senior Planner;
Ms. Marlys Young, Minute Taker.
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(WHEREUPON, the following
proceedings were in had public
hearing:)
CHAIRMAN OLSON: We will move on to the
next agenda item, which is the public hearing.
There are two public hearings scheduled for
tonight's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.
The purpose of this hearing tonight is to invite
testimony from members of the public regarding
the proposed request that is being considered
before this Commission tonight.
Public testimony may be from persons
present who wish to speak for or against the
request or to ask questions of the petitioner
regarding the proposed request being heard.
Those persons wishing to testify are
asked to speak clearly, one at a time, and state
your name, who you represent, if anybody at all.
You are also asked to sign in at the podium if
you are going to speak tonight.
If you plan to speak during
tonight's public hearing as a petitioner or as a
member of the public, now please stand, raise
your right hand and repeat after me.
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(Witnesses thereupon duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN OLSON: All right. So the way
we do this is we have an order that we follow.
The petitioner will do their presentation and
then we will have those who wish to speak in
favor of the request, followed by those who wish
to speak in opposition to the request.
I run a tight ship; if we're going
to have multiple people that are saying the same
thing, I ask you to please kindly stay seated.
One viewpoint, somebody says something close,
that's good enough, we'll move on.
To start, may I have a motion,
please, then to open the public hearing on
petition number PZC 2022-08, special use permit
authorization rezoning approval and sign
variance, and also PZC 2022-17, temporary storage
container variance request.
MR. WILLIAMS: So moved.
MR. HYETT: Second.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Roll call vote on the
motion, please.
MS. YOUNG: Yes. Williams.
MR. WILLIAMS: Yes.
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MS. YOUNG: Horaz.
MS. HORAZ: Yes.
MS. YOUNG: Hyett.
MR. HYETT: Yes.
MS. YOUNG: And Olson.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Yes.
All right. The public hearings up
for discussion tonight are PZC 2022-0 8 , Thomas
Williamson, on behalf of Graham C Stores Company,
Petitioner, is seeking a special use permit
authorization, rezoning approval and a variance
to the sign regulations to develop a gasoline
service station with accessory convenient store.
The real property is located on five
and a half acres and is located at the northeast
corner of 4 7 and 7 1 intersection.
The second item we have up or public
hearing tonight is David Courtright, attorney, on
behalf of -- boy, a bunch of Roman numeral
looking things here, CIG TSP, LLC; GIG TSP AP,
LLC; CIG TSP CFP, LLC; CIG TSP K &SM II, LLC,
Petitioners , is seeking variance approval to
permit permanent accessory structures closer to
the public way than the principal building on a
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lot and to permit expansion of a non-conforming
use.
The real property is located at 1602
North Bridge Street, on the east side of Bridge
Street, and north of the Route 34, which is also
then south of Dunkin Donuts.
The petitioner is seeking to keep
their temporary storage containers currently
located on the property as permitted through a
temporary building permit.
All right. So for PZC 2022-08, the
BP gas station, is the petitioner present and
ready to present?
MR. WILLIAMSON: Yes, we are.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Come on up.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Over here?
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Yep, if you wouldn't
mind. When you get up there if you could state
your name, who you are, et cetera, et cetera.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Okay.
THOMAS WILLIAMSON,
having been first duly sworn, testified before
the Commission as follows:
MR. WILLIAMSON: My name is Thomas
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Williamson. I am the G M for Graham C Stores
Company, and thank you for the time tonight, for
the speech, and, committee members, a little bit
about Graham C Stores, we are a third generation
family-owned company. We own and operate 26 gas
stations and convenient stores in the surrounding
collar counties around Chicago.
We are blessed enough to be in the
village now, we have one on Bridge Street and 47
and we have been there since 2013, took it over
from a prior owner, and we have enjoyed being in
the city, and as we kind of plot out our areas
and stuff, the other corner kind of fits our
requirements of what we like to look for and has
got the flow and stuff, so we're going up to 47
and Stagecoach Road, so we kind of have put
together a little packet, and we appreciate you
guys giving us the time to present.
David put together a lot of stuff
for us, so, again, it's basically our -- kind of
our background a little bit, and we are looking
forward to possibly continuing to grow with you
guys.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Thank you.
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MR. WILLIAMSON: Any questions for me?
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Not yet I don't think.
Thank you.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Okay.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: I don't want to speak
for you, Deb and Rusty, do you have any questions
so far? We will probably ask questions during
the later period.
MR. HYETT: No.
MS. HORAZ: No.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Thank you. So there
are standards for us to grant these different
variances, et cetera, et cetera. Typically we
ask you as the property owner if you want them
entered into the record. We suggest that you do.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Yes.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Thank you.
MR. WILLIAMSON: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: All right. Did anyone
else want to speak about this from the Brand
team, are we --
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Okay. All right. Then
is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor of
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these requests? And there is multiple requests;
there is -- I 'll fill in some blanks. We're
doing a -- there are four things we're going to
do for this, there is the rezoning, right now is
tipped -- it is at M -1 , it was that -- I think it
was F S or the natural gas company for forever,
changing it from M -1 to a B -3 , so that's the
first thing we'll vote on.
The second one is the special use,
which, let's see here, yeah, which Krysti just
whispered in my ear is required for a fuel-owned
gas service station. The third is the sign
variance, which we will talk about later, and the
fourth is -- no, that' is -- the final plat for
it?
MS. NOBLE: That does not require a
public hearing.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Okay. So that will be
outside the public hearing portion. Okay. Is
there anyone who wishes to speak in favor of
these requests for this BP site?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Is there anyone who
wishes to speak in opposition of these requests
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for the BP site?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Okay. Seeing as there
are none, do we have any questions right now from
commissioners for petitioner? I 'm going to guess
no.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN OLSON: All right. Then we
will move on. Do we have the petitioner present
for PZC 2022-17, storage unit variance approval?
Go ahead, sir, and, again, if you could let us
know your name, appreciate it.
DAVID COURTRIGHT,
having been first duly sworn, testified before
the Commission as follows:
MR. COURTRIGHT: Good evening. My name
is Dave Courtright on behalf of the list of
letters you had said. We're going to say the
owners of the real property located at 160 2 North
Bridge Street.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Very good.
MR. COURTRIGHT: We are seeking a
variance, subject variance for a few reasons.
Okay, first of all, I think it's notable we're
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dealing with a unique lot here, okay? We have
three existing principal primary buildings on
that lot on the east side. That would render the
property as legally non-conforming uses because
remember this business has gone back a long time
pre-existing the ordinance, so if we were to not
be granted a variance, we would essentially not
be able to use accessory structures anything
closer to Illinois Route 47 that constitutes the
entire remainder of the lot, okay?
And, again, this lot is oriented to
the north. We don't have any access on and off.
Typical when the ordinance was contemplated,
flagship blocks were discouraged.
The ordinance is intended to harbor
rectangular lots with frontage access on and off
of Illinois Route 47. That's not the case with
us. We don't have any access on and off the
street. We share the easement, access easement,
with all in order to get into our parcel from the
north, so everything is really oriented to the
north, which obviously it makes this parcel a
little bit different than the average for the
standard.
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Secondly, we operated a self storage
business, okay? This business has incurred
changes over the last ten, 20 years, and we are a
self storage business, we have been able to
operate viably with the number of units that
we've had in the past.
That's not the case today. The
industry has changed, and as you can see by
comparing us to the other self storage businesses
in the area, we have the smallest parcel in
addition to the smallest number of units.
We're trying to adapt. We're trying
to change with the industry. We're trying to
stay viable, to continue as a business, and if we
can't grow, we die. We die, right? I mean,
ultimately I suppose that would result in a
vacant lot for some period of time as opposed to
what we are proposing.
We understand the staff
recommendation; if the variance were to be
granted, it would be done so on the condition
that my client erect a fence and landscaping to
beautify that stretch.
Look, we all know that the objective
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of the ordinance, the objective that we're trying
to do, is have sightly frontage on Illinois Route
47. We are a pre-existing legal non-conforming
use. We are oriented to the north. We are a
little bit out of sorts to apply that ordinance
to; however, what we are proposing -- and
everybody should have a handout in front of them
with a landscaping plan and a fence plan.
I apologize, that was not included
in the packet because we submitted it just this
week, not early enough to be; however, that's
$60,000 in beautification work to this lot,
specifically the frontage on Illinois Route 47.
We want to be a good business. We
want -- we want to continue serving a need. We
are rented out. We have all of our units
occupied right now, and we want to continue to
serve that need. We want to improve the property
on Illinois Route 47.
We have a fence plan and a
landscaping plan in which we can substitute on
certain sides of fence or landscaping based on
what may be more attractive and preferential to
the city, but, again, at the end of the day we're
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are asking for a way to move forward. We're
asking for the City's understanding given the
nature of this property, the flagship, the
orientation north, the ability to make this a
beautiful spot and continue to do our business,
which there is a need for in the city, and with
that, I 'll pass.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Thank you.
MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: All right. Any
questions, Deb, Rusty, right now, Danny?
MS. HORAZ: I don't have any at this
time.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Okay, thank you. Is
there anyone from the public here that wants to
speak in favor of the request?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Is there anyone who
wants to speak in opposition to the request?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Seeing as there are
none, we will move on. Also, do you want your
responses to those questions added into the
record? We suggest that you do.
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MR. COURTRIGHT: Yes.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Thank you. All right.
Since all public testimony regarding these
petitions has been taken, may I please have a
motion to close the taking of testimony in this
public hearing?
MR. WILLIAMS: So moved.
MR. HYETT: Second.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Roll call vote on the
motion, please.
MS. YOUNG: Yes. Williams.
MR. WILLIAMS: Yes.
MS. YOUNG: Horaz.
MS. HORAZ: Yes.
MS. YOUNG: Hyett.
MR. HYETT: Yes.
MS. YOUNG: Olson.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: Yes.
MS. YOUNG: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN OLSON: All right. Public
hearing portion of the meeting is closed.
(Which were all the proceedings
had in the public hearing portion
of the meeting.)
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STATE OF ILLINOIS )
) SS.
COUNTY OF LASALLE )
I, Christine M. Vitosh, a Certified Shorthand
Reporter, do hereby certify that I transcribed
the proceedings had at the pubic hearing and that
the foregoing, Pages 1 through 16 inclusive, is a
true, correct and complete computer-generated
transcript of the proceedings had at the time and
place aforesaid.
I further certify that my certificate annexed
hereto applies to the original transcript and
copies thereof, signed and certified under my
hand only. I assume no responsibility for the
accuracy of any reproduced copies not made under
my control or direction.
As certification thereof, I have hereunto set
my hand this 28th day of August, A.D., 2022.
Christine M. Vitosh, CSR
Illinois CSR No. 084-002883
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sorts [1] - 13:5
south [1] - 6:6
special [3] - 4:15,
5:10, 9:9
specifically [1] - 13:13
speech [1] - 7:3
spot [1] - 14:5
SS [1] - 16:1
staff [1] - 12:19
Stagecoach [1] - 7:16
stand [1] - 3:23
standard [1] - 11:24
standards [1] - 8:12
start [1] - 4:13
STATE [1] - 16:1
state [2] - 3:17, 6:18
station [3] - 5:13,
6:12, 9:12
stations [1] - 7:6
stay [2] - 4:10, 12:14
storage [6] - 4:17, 6:8,
10:10, 12:1, 12:4,
12:9
store [1] - 5:13
stores [1] - 7:6
Stores [3] - 5:9, 7:1,
7:4
Street [4] - 6:4, 6:5,
7:9, 10:20
street [1] - 11:19
stretch [1] - 12:23
structures [2] - 5:23,
11:8
stuff [3] - 7:13, 7:15,
7:19
subject [1] - 10:23
submitted [1] - 13:10
substitute [1] - 13:21
suggest [2] - 8:15,
14:24
suppose [1] - 12:16
surrounding [1] - 7:6
sworn [3] - 4:1, 6:22,
10:14
T
Taker [1] - 2:11
team [1] - 8:21
temporary [3] - 4:17,
6:8, 6:10
ten [1] - 12:3
testified [2] - 6:22,
10:14
testify [1] - 3:16
testimony [4] - 3:9,
3:12, 15:3, 15:5
that' [1] - 9:14
thereof [2] - 16:12,
16:16
thereupon [1] - 4:1
third [2] - 7:4, 9:12
Thomas [2] - 5:8, 6:24
THOMAS [1] - 6:21
three [1] - 11:2
tight [1] - 4:8
tipped [1] - 9:5
today [1] - 12:7
together [2] - 7:17,
7:19
tonight [6] - 3:8, 3:11,
3:20, 5:8, 5:18, 7:2
tonight's [2] - 3:7,
3:22
took [1] - 7:10
transcribed [1] - 16:4
transcript [2] - 16:8,
16:11
true [1] - 16:7
trying [4] - 12:12,
12:13, 13:1
TSP [4] - 5:20, 5:21
two [1] - 3:6
typical [1] - 11:13
typically [1] - 8:13
U
ultimately [1] - 12:16
under [2] - 16:12,
16:14
unique [1] - 11:1
unit [1] - 10:10
UNITED [1] - 1:6
units [3] - 12:5, 12:11,
13:16
up [5] - 5:7, 5:17, 6:15,
6:18, 7:15
uses [1] - 11:4
V
vacant [1] - 12:17
variance [10] - 4:17,
4:18, 5:11, 5:22,
9:13, 10:10, 10:23,
11:7, 12:20
Vitosh Reporting Service
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PZC - Public Hearings - August 10, 2022
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variances [1] - 8:13
via [2] - 2:1, 2:7
viable [1] - 12:14
viably [1] - 12:5
viewpoint [1] - 4:11
village [1] - 7:9
Vitosh [2] - 16:3,
16:20
vote [3] - 4:21, 9:8,
15:9
W
wants [2] - 14:15,
14:19
Wednesday [1] - 1:21
week [1] - 13:11
WHEREUPON [1] -
3:1
whispered [1] - 9:11
Williams [3] - 2:4,
4:23, 15:11
WILLIAMS [4] - 4:19,
4:24, 15:7, 15:12
WILLIAMSON [9] -
6:14, 6:16, 6:20,
6:21, 6:24, 8:1, 8:4,
8:16, 8:18
Williamson [2] - 5:9,
7:1
wish [3] - 3:13, 4:5,
4:6
wishes [3] - 8:24,
9:20, 9:24
wishing [1] - 3:16
witnesses [1] - 4:1
Y
years [1] - 12:3
YORKVILLE [2] - 1:6,
1:7
Yorkville [1] - 1:18
YOUNG [9] - 4:23, 5:1,
5:3, 5:5, 15:11,
15:13, 15:15, 15:17,
15:19
Young [1] - 2:11
Z
Zoning [1] - 3:7
ZONING [1] - 1:10
Zoom [2] - 2:1, 2:7