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EDC Minutes 2004 10-21-04 APPROVED BY THE Page 1 of 4 COMMITTEE/BOARD ON: UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE YORKVILLE CITY HALL CONFERENCE ROOM THURSDAY, OCTOBER 21, 2004 The meeting was called to order at 7 pan - ATTENDANCE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF: Alderman Richard Sticka; and Alderwomen Rose Spears and Valerie Burd; Kelly Kramer from the City Attorney's office; and Mayor Art Prochaska. OTHERS: Deputy Fire Chief Tim Fairfield; John Philipchuck; Tim Winter; Pete Huinker; Trevor Ryan and Matt Cudney. 1. Minutes Minutes from the September 20 meeting were approved. 2. Amendment to Building and Zoning Code Addressins Maximum He' t and Building Materials Looking at the proposed amendment Alderwoman Valerie Burd suggested the proposed maxim height be listed in feet as well as stories. The proposed amendment states no building taller than six stories could be constructed, but does specify the height in feet. Deputy Fire Chief Tim Fairfield said while he had seen the one of the original draft versions of the ordinance, he hadn't been given the ordinance the committee was planning to review. He also didn't know if the newest draft ha&been forwarded to the Fire District yet. Likewise, he said Fire Chief Mike Hitzemann was on vacation and he would prefer to withhold any comment on the proposed amendment until the chief returned and was able to give his opinion on the matter. Committee Chairman Richard Sticka said he'd like to have the chief s comments and the fire district's comments in written form. Once those written responses are received, the issue can come back to the committee for discussion. Burd and Alderwomen Rose Spears shared concerns about the fire district's ability to adequately fight fires in buildings that high without a ladder truck. Even if the fire protection district gives its consent to buildings taller than three stories, Spears said she would be hesitant to give her approval without a ladder truck. Mayor Art Prochaska said the type of suppression systems installed in buildings can makes a difference. In a recent fire in Chicago, a number of people died because there was no sprinkle system installed, he said. Fairfield added that while the suppression system does put out the fire, it sometimes doesn't address the smoke issues, which can cause problems if a ladder truck isn't available, Page 2 of 4 3. Policv for Public Facility Land Donation Sticka said he didn't have any policies for the committee to review. Mayor Prochaska said it is an issue for the committee to discuss. At issue is whether the city should adopt a policy requiring developers to donate land for certain public facilities. Prochaska said the legal test for such a policy asks that the community shows a need for a facility and that it can show what impact such as facility would have. If the city requires a developer to give land, it has to be uniquely attributable, he said. Spears asked if a senior center would fall under these guidelines. Attorney Kelly Kramer said the city would have to show justification and impact on the community. She said the city would have to be very careful justifying such a policy. Sticks agreed saying he doesn't want the city to pass an ordinance that gets challenged and struck down. Yet, he wondered if Montgomery is doing it, are any other cities? If so, he said should Yorkville consider it? Kramer suggested the city not look into pursuing any type of policy for public facility land donation. 4.Overlav Ordinance Sticka said there is nothing for the committee to look at yet. 5. PC 2004 -07 Autumn Creek — annexation, zoning and preliminary elan Matt Cudney said some modifications have been made to the preliminary plan as suggested by the Plan Commission and city staff. For instance, the lots, which bump up to lots in Grande Reserve have been increased to 12,000 square feet to match the Grande Reserve lots. There also was some concern about the layout of the town homes and traffic j patterns, The suggested changes have since been made. Also, Cudney said revised the school and park site to make sure the road lined up with the Menard's property. In the proposed development, there are 324 single - family lots with an average lot size of 13,600 square feet. There are 258 town home units and a 20 -acre commercial site attached to the property. Cudney said the developers have incorporated storm water retention from the commercial site into the residential site so that the commercial area can be fully utilized. Last week, the Plan Commission unanim ously recommended approval for annexation and rezoning. There was one dissenter on approval of the preliminary plan, Cudney said. That person (Brian Schillinger) wanted to see all of the lots at 12,000 square feet. Also, Cudney said the city's staff wants the developer to install ad bike path that hadn't been previously discussed. Burd asked if the lots that are smaller than 12,000 square feet are against open space. Cudney said they are not. Burd said she would prefer if the smaller lots were against open space. In the past, that is the only way the city has approved of smaller lots. Page 3 of 4 Cudney said they've tried to have lots of varying sizes throughout the development so that it doesn't look monotonous. However, Spears said if the smaller lots don't abut green space, she wouldn't be willing to approve the plan. Sticka said Cudney's argument doesn't make sense because all of the smaller lots are in one cluster in the development, while the larger lots are clustered in another space. Cudney said most of the smaller lots are place near Route 34 and the commercial area where the homes won't sell for higher prices. He said the location of these smaller lots is typically where town homes have been located. Instead, the developer put the town homes against the.open space. Mayor Prochaska said it's interesting that the developer has placed the town homes against the open space. It's something the city has never seen before. Cudney asked if he should rework the plan to put the town homes in the traditional spot near the commercial development. Sticka said, personally, the plan is okay with him as it is. But, he said it could be a roadblock for the developer. Sticka also said he agrees with extending the trail as the city staff suggested and reworking the lower area. . Mayor Prochaska asked if it would be possible to switch out some of the larger lots in other areas and move them to other areas. Cudney said they could look at the possibility. The annexation and PUD is scheduled for a public hearing Nov. 9. 6. Developer reauest resardina lot in Grande Reserve Unit 9 John Philipchuck said he was there at the request of city staff seeking direction on an error made in the concept plan. There is an open spot in neighborhood S, where there should be a line to show a lot. He said the city approved 224 duplex units. Without the line, then the plan is two units short. He said the open spot was a mistake. Sticka said he doesn't see a problem It seems to be a matter of a missing line in a drawing. Correcting the mistake doesn't change the facts, he said. 7. Prairie Gardens Economic Incentive Agreement Kramer said the city received a request from the developer about the possibility of an economic incentive agreement. Sticks said he wasn't aware the city held any discussions with the developer on economic incentives. He said if they don't have any public improvements, then they shouldn't come to the city seeking any incentives. When there's something to be negotiated, then they can let the city know, S. Additional business Spears recommended the committee appoint a vice - chairman. The committee agreed to put it on the agenda for the next meeting. The meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m. Page 4 of 4 G Minutes respectfully submitted by Dina Gipe �o� �� /oi �g:� _ �� _ � .� . ����� ������ . �� � �� ��. �� -- -- ,�