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EDC Minutes 2001 05-15-01 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE Committee Minutes - Economic Development Date of Meeting: May 15, 2001 Called to order: 7:00 PM Adjourned: 9:20 PM Attendees: r Richard Sticka Joe Besco Art Prochaska Joe Wywrot Valerie Burd Marty Munns Paul James FOX RIVER ESTATES Chairman Sticka asked if we have a standard for subdivision lighting. Attorney Tom Grant for the petitioner stated these are taller than most ornamental lights. Phil Knierim, petitioner stated they have this type of lighting in Wheaton Chairman Sticka asked if it was similar or the same, this doesn't seem to be up to municipal standards, and the thumb screw is flimsy, and the sensor makes the light stay on longer. The Plan Commission liked it. The Public Works Crew didn't like it and expressed their negative remarks in a memo. The feel they are much harder to service. City Engineer Wywrot stated the Public Works people don't like them, they are concerned and feel they will break, are they up to a BB shot ?, and the City ordinance stated a concrete pole. Chairman Sticka stated this is not a case of saving money as they will cost more. They will also need to install more, and the more lamps the more trouble. They will cost more to operate also. Alderwoman Burd stated she would like to see these type of lights around town, and would like it to continue. Chairman Sticka stated this is an additional burden as we will have to stock replacement parts. Attorney Grant stated they are also asking for cu de sac islands. Engineer Wywrot stated their Homeowners Association will maintain the islands. 1 Chairman Sticka asked about the second access which was a major point from the beginning. Originally they were working with the Boy Scouts. Attorney Grant stated they are askisng for $250,000 which is extortion, and not an affordable amount. Chief Tony Graff went to speak with the Scouts on our behalf and has confirmed that trying to get access from them is getting worse by the day. Chairman Sticka stated they know there is no other solution short of denying the petitioner. Engineer Wywrot stated that the only way to the west would be to wait for the Scouts property to sell and be developed. I Sherry stated that lot 27 would remain open as access to the west, and it is the best j place to cross the ravine. Alderwoman Burd asked if they would be going through the Scouts property in case of an emergency. Chairman Sticka asks Fire Chief Hitzemann and Asst. Fire Chief and Plan Commission Chairman, Tom Lindblom (attending for another issue) their feelings on this asking if we would be creating a hazard where the City could be held liable? This could be a natural gas leak or something with a tree down on the crossing, something not connected to Railnet. Chief Hitzemann stated in a real emergency they might find another way to get through. Chairman Sticka asked if potential residents would be told they have only one way in and one way out over the tracks. The likelihood of a problem is remote. Mayor Prochaska stated they would know, but he knows they have tried in earnestly to deal with the Scouts, and feels the City may be more agreeable if they would have a 66 foot access point left open to the west. Future development to the east will allow another crossing and access too. Attorney Grant stated that ICC lobbyist have objected to any further RR crossings anywhere. But, they could provide the 66 foot access by re- configuring just 5 lots. Chairman Sticka stated that other than that there is no other problem Mayor Prochaska stated that having 2 ways out is more for having a way to get back in. Fire Chief Hitzemannn stated they don't like any subdivision with only one access, but they could push cars out of the way with the Fire Engine, but a train is tough. 2 Chairman Sticka stated this has been an issue the City expected from the start. Mayor Prochaska stated they would take this to COW for discussion and a recommendation for Final Plat, Street lighting and the cul de sac islands. Engineer Wywrot stated that Fox Hill has the same issue, but they could get access, it is within their power. Here, they have tried and they can't do it. Chairman Sticka stated this will go to COW with a recommendation of support. BRISTOL CLUB & STATION Mr. Gabel, petitioner stated they are here with Concept seeking guidance from the City Council. They plan to do this as a staged development. Since this will have water available in the future, but they aren't sure when sewer will be available. They would like to develop the west with large lots with private access from Cannonball Trail only. Interior roadway will be private, and will be maintained privately. They will be build to City Standards with 24 foot roadways with no parking on the streets and there will be 40% open space with lots of trees, water and wild life. Small entrance which they may or may not gate. Chairman Sticka stated we would want an SSA for back -up to the City. Mr. Gabel stated they are working on covenants, annexation and contiguity for annexation. On the east side Kendall County will not allow any access at all, so it will be from Cannonball only. The area east of Cannonball Trail will have a small amount of commercial on the corner of Galena for local services to residents. Behind will be townhomes with a 30 foot buffer of landscaping around the entire site with 60 feet ROW. City Engineer Wywrot stated that the City Standard is 66 feet. Mr. Gabel stated they will have a nice lake, plus storm water management. They would like to get going on the large lot side. The east side they have to wait for sewer to get there. BKFD DEVELOPMENT FEES Chairman Sticka stated the City has received a letter from the Fire Department and Fire Chief Mike Hitzemann and Asst. Fire Chief Tom Lindblom are here requesting an increase in the BKFD portion of the Development Fee collected by the City with the Building Permit fees. They are proposing an increase of $50.00. Additionally they propose a Commercial development fee for the Fire Dept. of $ .03.5 with a minimum flat rate. Mayor Prochaska stated Oswego is in their District, and asked if they will be askisng them for fees. 3 i Chief Hitzemann stated they will approach Oswego. Montgomery has a fee of $50. and they will talk to them as well, but are starting with Yorkville. Sugar Grove has already approached Montgomery with their standards. Chairman Sticka stated this is not a huge increment and will take it to COW for discussion. Chief Hinzeman stated there are three major projects they are looking to fund. A ladder truck which costs $781,000. They have applied for grant money, but really don't expect to get that. They also are looking to a site for a Firehouse on the north end of their district, also want to move the EMS up to the north of Yorkville. They want also a second medic crew to go full -time. They have three ambulances and have had instances when all three were out. W OSWEGO BOUNDARY AGREEMENT Mayor Prochaka stated they are working on an agreement with Oswego and will add language about Oswego putting a Metra station at Mill and the tracks, and both have agreed to factor this into their plans for development. Chairman Sticka stated that Mayor Prochaska and Oswego's Mayor have talked, they just aren't sure jet if he has taken this to any committees. Mayor Prochaska stated that he suggests that by next month they will start taking this to Committees. Chairman Sticka stated that if we go forward and Oswego agrees we could be in good shape, and will have to find another way to deal with Montgomery. Mayor Prochaska stated that we will put this out by the Council voting on it and passing it along to them to vote on. Chief Lindblom stated that Montgomery is served by 5 Fire Districts. They want to know what BKFD would do for them. There is a possibility for a joint venture with Sugar Grove for a North Fire Dept. Mayor Prochaska stated that if BKFD comes up with a plan Yorkville would like to know about it. COMBINING SIGN REVIEW BOARD AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS Building Inspector, Bill Dettmer stated the Mayor has talked to him about dissolving the Sign Review Board and having the Zoning Board of Appeals handling these issues. Meetings are infrequent and by state statute these issues are handled by ZBA so no ZBA change would be needed. The Sign Ordinance would still go to City Council for approval. 4 MULTI - FAMILY INSPECTIONS Alderman Marty Munns stated he had spoken to Bill Dettmer in regard to starting inspections of rental units to be sure they are properly maintained. They went out and looked at areas where there are some eye sores. He felt any rental building with 3 units or more should be inspected on a regular basis. Building Inspector Dettmer stated that this is currently being done on a complaint basis only, and if they decided to do this they would break it into areas and report back. They would need the support of the City Council. They would inspect, write a report and advise the owner and resident what needs to be done based on the current code. WE have some areas that are good, but some areas are being purchased, milked and then they get out. Some are Section 8. This would be an education al process. Currently this is done on a complaint basis and the implantation of this program would make it a pro- active approach. 1 Alderwoman Burd asked if we need P.R. on this. Inspector Dettmer stated, yes, education is important. Alderman Munns stated this would be by Ward and we could advertise. Chairman Sticka asked if this would be done without an ordinance and asked if a fee would be assessed. Inspector Dettmer stated, yes you already have an ordinance.. Chairman Sticka stated we have plenty of problems on going now that have not been corrected. Alderwoman Burd stated we need a policy on how the City handles these issues. We should publicize the positive things that have been done in this regard. Inspector Dettmer stated this is in his contract and they have the staff to do it. Alderman Besco stated we should be pro- active. Alderwoman Burd stated this would be a beautification program. A Pilot Program and involve the people. Chairman Sticka asked how this would be done. Inspector Dettmer stated they would survey the outside and speak to them. Chairman Sticka asked if they would inspect the inside. 5 i Inspector Dettmer stated yes, they would ask, if denied they would walk away. They would take pictures. Chairman Sticka expressed concern about people being surprised in their homes. Inspector Dettmer stated they are currently doing this on a complaint basis. They work with the resident. Alderman Besco asked if there would be a charge to the owner. Inspector Dettmer stated no, we could take them to court as in the case of the Pink Hotel, but the City would have to pay attorneys fees. Chairman Sticka stated he didn't think he supports this idea and I would be very angry, but I am only one of 8 aldermen. 1 Inspector Dettmer stated they can do an outside survey, break it into districts and do it. Chairman Sticka asked if the BOCA code states if you have a broken window that you have to repair it.? Inspector Dettmer stated you have to fix it. Alderman Munns stated that Inspector Dettmer can prepare a proposal and have it back in a couple of weeks. PC 2001 -08 TUCKER/PRICE City Engineer Joe Wywrot stated they are proposing a 20 foot setback on the Price Parcel at Route #47. Based on the possibility of future IDOT expansion we should ask 30 foot setback. We should ask them to eliminate parking stalls and meet the 30 foot setback. He will research the PUD agreement and see if the setbacks are mentioned. The bank of parking stalls to the south have been eliminated, but these are to the north. SSA - FOX RIVER ESTATES Chairman Sticka stated this should go to COW for discussion. BUILDING DEPARTMENT REPORT Chairman Sticka stated this should go to COW for discussion. Meeting adjourned at 9:20 PM Minutes by Sandy Marker 6