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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 2002 b ►� o a
7 P.M.
In Attendance:
Committee members Richard Sticka, Joe Besco, Valerie Burd; Mayor Art Prochaska;
City Administrator Tony Graff, Jeff Spang; Sandra Spang; JoAnn Gryder, Roberta.
Peterson; Larry Vaupel; Lynn Dubaj ic; Rich Guerard from Wyndham Deerpoint Homes;
Dirk Gunderson; Jorge Boada; Chad Gunderson; and Kathy Kohler.
MINUTES
Minutes from the August 15, 2002 meeting were approved.
1. PC 2002 -18: 691 N. Bridle St.: Jeffrev and Sandra Spang petitioners to rezone
2. PC 2002 -19: 609 N. Bridge St.: Roberta Peterson petitioner to rezone
Items one and two were discussed together. Jeffrey and Sandra Spang were on hand to
discuss their request to rezone property at 691 N. Bridge St. from R -2 One Family
Residence District to B -I Limited Business District. Roberta Peterson also was present to
discuss her request for the same rezoning on property located at 609 N. Bridge St.
Committee Chairman Richard Sticka reported that the Plan Commission voted to approve
the rezoning requests. He said there were no specific plans for the businesses, possible
antiques.
Committee Member Joe Besco commented that it falls into compliance with the recently
approved Comprehensive Plan. He asked what accommodations -would be made for
parking. Jeff Spang said that Mrs. Peterson has an adjacent lot that could be used for
parking and that the Spang property has a back yard that could be converted into a
parking area.
In response to a question from Sticka, City Administrator Tony Graff said he would ask
City Attorney Dan Kramer if the city could require the Spang's to install a turn- around.
Spang said there is a turn- around on the property, but if parking is added, the turn - around
would have to be relocated.
Graff said City Planner Mike Schoppe asked if there was a possibility of a joint use so
that an entrance could be located on one property and an exit on the other.
Jeff Spang said they hadn't progressed that far in the planning. He said if there is an
agreeable business use, he doesn't have a problem with working out some type of an
arrangement.
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Graff said the city expects more houses on that street to petition to rezone to B -1 Limited
Business District. As the requests come in, there may be more cooperative agreements to
make regarding exit and entry to the businesses.
Committee Member Valerie Burd asked if the city had any regulations against the
property owners possibly tearing down the buildings and building something more
modern in their place. Graff said no such limitations are placed on the property owners.
He said the committee could discuss creating a standard to put into place to protect some
of the existing buildings.
The committee agreed to forward the two rezoning requests to the Committee of the
Whole.
3. PC 2002 -12 Kvlvn's Ridge: AMG Homes on behalf of Inland Land Appreciation
Fund petition to annex and rezone and for approval of the ureliminary Dian.
Representatives were present to discuss the petition to annex approximately 69 acres to
the City of Yorkville and to rezone from Kendall County A -1 Agricultural to City of
Yorkville R -2 One Family Residence. Also the petitions are requesting approval of the
preliminary plan.
Sticka informed the committee that the Plan Commission approved the annexation, the
rezoning and the preliminary plan. He said much of the discussion at the Plan
Commission meeting centered on High Ridge Road and the fact that it is designed to be a
collector street.
Developer Chad Gunderson said he is happy with the compromise proposed by the
engineering firm to make the street 33 feet wide and to limit parking to one side. All of
the driveways are on one side of the street in the layout.
Graff said the Plan Commission discussed his theory on the behavior patterns of people.
He said people prefer to park on the driveway side of the street. Jorge Boada agreed that
parking should be on the driveway side of the street. He said it is risky to pull out of a
driveway when a car is parked behind it.
Besco mentioned he would prefer a full parking ban in the city because it looks neater.
One reason is because of Country Side, he said. Also, parking on the street invites
vandalism, he said. Sticka said that the city's no parking bans are nighttime bans.
Sticka also said he disagrees with the Plan Commission's sentiments that wider streets
are safer. He believes the wider streets invite traffic to go faster. Chad Gunderson said he
agrees and that he does not believe wide streets should run through subdivisions.
Sticka said he invites engineering firms to consider traffic calming devices. He said most
engineering firms look at subdivisions as ways to get cars through. Graff said he would
ask Smith Engineering if the firm has any traffic calming devise experience.
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Graff also said Kramer has a draft of the annexation agreement and that the developers
will receive his comments the following week.
He said the developers want to get more land from an adjacent property owner for a
wider linear park.
Sticka said that Frank Yabsley who owns property adjacent to the proposed subdivision
attended the Plan Commission meeting and reported that an agreement between the
landowners had been reached. Chad Gunderson said they don't have an agreement, but
they put in an offer and the Yabsleys don't have any objections. Sticka said he wants the
agreement between the Yabsleys and the developers included in the annexation
agreement.
Chad Gunderson said the agreement basically calls for some landscaping and right of
way recapture.
Commenting on the proposed development, Besco commended the developers saying
there is a nice mix of lot sizes and none of them are below 12,000 square feet.
The committee agreed to forward the request for annexation, rezoning and approval of
the preliminary plat to the Committee of the Whole. Graff said it would be on the agenda
for the Oct. 1 meeting.
5. May, June and July 2002 Building Permit Reports,
Sticka presented the May, June and July 2002 building permit reports saying the numbers
are "staggering."
Graff said during those three months there were 157 building permits issued for single -
family residences. Construction costs during that period totaled $36 million compared to
$12 million in construction costs over the same period last year.
b. Water & Sewer Connection Fee — Credit Policv for Developers
Graff said in the past, the city has given credit for water and sewer connection fees to
developers on a case -by -case basis. Whenever there has been regional oversizing of
infrastructure, the city has sometimes given the developers credit on the connection fees.
At the suggestion of Mayor Art Prochaska, the city is now considering establishing a
standard policy instead of looking at each issue on a case -by -case basis. Graff said the
developers still would need to meet certain criteria to qualify for the credit. Credit would
not be given automatically.
Sticka asked what the advantage would be to create a policy if the city is already giving
the credits. Graff said that by putting the credit procedure into policy, it would be more
clear cut. He said a policy would give developers a comfort range and would let them
know the city is open to incentives.
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He said the policy would indicate the city either would offer a rebate or would not collect
part of the water and sewer connection fees in exchange for infrastructure improvements_
Graff said an amount would not be included in the policy.
Graff said he would bring a draft proposal of the policy to the next Economic
Development Committee meeting.
7. River Crossing South Sanitary Interceptor Sewer — Finance Proposal by
Developers Wyndham Deerpoint and Wiseman - Hughes
Graff said there is a request from Wiseman- Hughes and Wyndham Deerpoint Homes to
discuss the financial costs for the south sanitary sewer interceptor plan.
Graff presented several options to the committee. The first option opens the service area
south to Caton Farm Road, which would enlarge the service area to more than 7, 500
acres. The second option could go that far. The third option would open the area to 4,441
acres and would reach Walker Road.
All three options feature a 48 -inch pipe for Hydraulic and River Crossing. Option 1 also
includes a 24 -inch ComEd interceptor to Route 47. Option 2 features that same 24 -inch
ComEd interceptor to Route 126 as well as an 18 -inch ComEd interceptor to Route 47.
Option 3 features an Minch ComEd interceptor to Route 47.
Graff said the developers are willing to do Option 3 if the city is willing to share some of
the costs. He said the Yorkville- Bristol Sanitary District is wiling to give credit, but
beyond that does not wish to participate in the infrastructure improvements.
The developers meanwhile, say that a 20 -year recapture agreement is a long time,
especially since the Wiseman - Hughes project accounts for just 3:6 percent of the area and
the Wyndham Deerpoint project accounts for 7.5 percent of the area.
Graff said that if they city allows a sewer credit fee, it would amount to $1.6 million. A
river crossing fee credit would amount to $113,000.
If the developers fund the project and ask for a recapture, he said it is probably not
reasonable for them to recapture the funds in 20 years.
Graff said he recommends the city apply the river crossing fee to all developments south
of the river as a credit to reduce the time for recapture payment and to look at a 10 -year
reverter clause. The clause would state that after 10years, the debt reverts to the city.
Ten years gets the debt down to a manageable amount, Graff said. And commercial
development could occur on Route 47 that would help reduce the debt, he said.
The city did the same thing for the north and south water and sewer line, he said and the
note will be paid off in November. That line allowed F.E. Wheaton to come to town,
Graff said.
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Larry Vaupel with Wiseman - Hughes said that the other way to look at the plan is that the
developers are holding the bag for 14 years.
Rich Guerard with Wyndham Deerpoint Homes said the developer cannot afford to front
the entire project because the numbers are so astronomical.
Graff said that one of the city's goals is to protect the Route 47 corridor down to Caton
Farm Road. Options 1 and 2 allow for that to happen. Option 3 protects the area only to
Walker Road.
Graff said Options 1 and 2 are viable with the participation of the Yorkville- Bristol
Sanitary District. However, he said the district is not interested in paying upfront for a
sewer interceptor. The committee members made some discussion on the fees collected
by the sanitary district and what they're used for. Committee Member Valerie Burd
requested that the sanitary district provide a written response on how the fees are
collected and where the funds go. Besco added that he is frustrated that the city and
developers pay the fees and the sanitary district collects the funds.
Besco said he asked that representatives from the department be at the meeting. However,
Graff said that Mayor Art Prochaska met earlier with the sanitary district officials. He
said the mayor will write a letter to the sanitary district asking the questions posed by the
committee.
Sticka impressed the importance of the city providing service out to Caton Farm Road.
He said that either the city can take on the financial burden to do it or if not, Joliet will
move into the area. He said that if the goal is to reach Caton Farm Road, the city needs to
choose one of the options to get there.
Sticka added that the issue is beyond the Economic Development Committee's ability to
solve. Graff said the issue will go to the Committee of the Whole.
Vaupel meanwhile said the developers need to have a comfort level and to know they're
not sitting out there with a blank check. He said he would prefer knowing what limits
have been set before closing on any properties.
Sticks said the city needs to look at what is feasible for the city to handle. Graff said that
by the time the issues goes to the Committee of the Whole, he would have more answers
as to which options would get the city to Caton Farm Road.
8. Architectural Standards — Route 34/Route 47 Business Corridor
Graff said he collected three or four different sets of architectural standards from
different communities to review. He said it just sets some thought process and lets the
city officials know if they are moving in the right direction.
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In looking at the draft ordinance, Sticka said he would rather see the word "required" in
the ordinance rather than the word "encouraged."
Burd commented that the liked the requirements under 2A.
On the subject of pole buildings, Sticks said some people still have objections to them.
Burd added that the city is trying to discourage inexpensive buildings.
Sticka said that for the economic benefits of the city, imposing these kinds of standards is
important. Burd added that with the growth the community is facing, the city needs to
move fast on adopting the standards as well as placing limitations on signage.
Graff said he would add the word "required" and move the draft ordinance on to the
Committee of the Whole.
The meeting adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
Minutes by Dina Gipe
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