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EDC Minutes 2003 08-21-03 1 Page 1 of 5 APPROVED PY THE UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE COMMl:7EEISOiARD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING ON: q lS U3 THURSDAY, AUGUST 21, 2003 ATTENDANCE Committee members: Aldermen Richard Sticka and Joe Besco, Alderwomen Wanda Ohare and Valerie Burd; City Attorney Dan Kramer; Mayor Art Prochaska; City Administrator Tony Graff; Lynn Dubajic, Yorkville Economic Development Corporation; John Watson, Gardner, Carton and Douglas; Richard Young, Kimball Hill Homes; Larry Vaupel, Wiseman - Hughes; Rich Guerard. PRESENTATION City Administrator Tony Graff said city staff has discussed environmental zoning needs in the community. The city has the local authority to adopt a pollution control ordinance. He said the city wants to stay ahead of the game and be ready in case developers I approach the city Attorney John Watson with the firm Gardner, Carton and Douglas, Chicago, spoke i regarding the city's need for a pollution control ordinance. He said local citing ordinances are very common and very useful, especially in communities such as Yorkville. Under Illinois law a pollution control facility such as a landfill or transfer station must go through local citing approval. However, not all municipalities have a local citing ordinance. Many cities such as Yorkville that are involved in development issues have developed their own citing ordinances, Watson said. Though such ordinances, the municipalities can get application fees for the application process and to pursue citing approval. In some cases the fees range from $50,000 to $250,000, he said. But a standard fee is likely in the range of $50,000, he said. Application fees, he said, are designed to incur all costs for review of applications, outside expertise, public hearings, mailings and other related needs. Many communities want to develop their own process that any developer wanting to pursue these types of businesses would have to follow, Watson said. An ordinance also would give the community the ability to decide the process of public notice and to determine who would preside over a public hearing, he said. City Attorney Dan Kramer said that because it's a specialized citing issue, many municipalities don't run their own public hearings under such circumstances. Instead they hire an attorney who specializes in environmental law. t Page 2 of 5 Watson said a pollution control ordinance allows a municipality to manage the process, promote competition and fair decision - making. Committee Chairman said the draft ordinance wasn't made specifically for Yorkville. He asked if it was a standard ordinance. Watson said a bulk of the ordinance comes from the state statutes. State statutes allow municipalities to recoup costs from developers looking to start these types of businesses. However, he said it's easier for the communities to establish an application or an up -front fee to cover those costs. Regarding his fee, Graff had said the fees could range up to $10,000. Watson said the process of drafting an ordinance would not entail those types of fees. The fees would only reach the top amount if there was a dispute or objection raised by interested parties. Alderwoman Wanda Ohare wanted to know when Watson would have an idea of what his fees would be. Watson said he could break down the costs and provide a more detailed account of what to expect. Ohare said she would like to have a better idea of what the costs would be. Besco said the ordinance is definitely some the city should have. Mayor Art Prochaska agreed and said the city should have had something like this for a while. As the city grows and the population grows, an ordinance like this is needed. Kramer suggested the city hold a public hearing when adopting the ordinance. He said it's real close to a text amendment. The committee decided to move the matter to the Sept. 16 Committee of the Whole meeting. MINUTES Minutes from the July meeting were approved. BUILDING REPORT The building reports from June and July 2003 were received and forwarded to the Committee of the Whole. PC 2003 -09 Windett Ridge Final Plat Sticka told committee members the Plan Commission voted to recommend approval of the final plat based on staff review. Kramer said there was a fairly long laundry list of engineering comments from Engineering Enterprises, Inc. Also, he said there was a small number of lots in one corner of it that the Plan Commissioners felt wouldn't work without a lift station. EEI gave a couple of alternatives. One was to talk to the sanitary district about lowering the lines, which the sanitary district opposed. The other option was to leave off those 16 lots from the plan until there is further development from the south. Page 3 of 5 Stick said he recalls reading a comment from City Engineer Joe Wywrot about insufficient water flow. Graff said Wywrot recommended an easement connection to Windham- Deerpoint so that they can connect to the booster station. There should be enough water supply at this time to service the development, Graff said. However, Graff said Wywrot suggests the city should make sure the well and water tower are under contract before final plat is approved. He added the city is now under contract. As for the sewer system, Graff said the city could service 177 units until the rest of the sewer line is put in place. He added the bids should be awarded in October for the river crossing for the sewer lines. Sticka commented on the fact that some cul -de -sac streets that are longer than the city's ordinances allow. However, Larry Vaupel, with Wiseman- Hughes, said has been allowed in the Planned Unit Development agreement. Graff said they've met the proposed new standards. He said the concern isn't so much about the length of the streets in a development; it is about the number of units on a i street. Sticka then asked about street names and wanted to know if street names are set in stone if a final plat is approved. Graff said they could go back to be changed if a dual street name is found. Vaupel said all of the street names in the development are historical. They all come from the Yorkville history book. Graff said John Whitehouse from EEI submitted a new review. He said they're all typical j corrections. Sticka said he'd like to see City Planner Mike Schoppe's comments on the development before the matter goes to the C.O.W. meeting on Sept. 2. Schoppe had not received a copy of the final plat prior to the previous Plan Commission meeting. PC 2002 -27 Fisher Property Preliminary Plan Richard Young, with Kimball Hill Homes, said the developer is in conformance with the concept plan. There are 450 lots planned on more than 300 acres and the developer is seeking straight zoning. There is no PUD. The major discussion at the Plan Commission was on whether the new Faxon Road should go through to Route 47, he said. Even without that issue resolved, Young said he'd like to move forward. Time is essential. They'd like to begin moving dirt as soon as possible. Sticka said the Faxon Road issue is a big issue. Plan Commission members were concerned if the road doesn't go through and it stubs out there, why is it designed the way it is, he said. They're concerned about the traffic flow onto Cannonball Trail, he said. Page 4 of 5 Whitehouse suggested there should be another north -south road if Faxon Road cannot be extended. Young, however, said Schoppe believes that the development would work as is. The developers feel confident they subdivision can work and function with or without the road going through to Route 47. Also, he said they could reserve a lot to make the subdivision connect to Cannonball. Sticka said he really think it's important to extend to Route 47. Young said the developers would end the road; they won't stub it until they know for sure if the road will go through. Sticka. said the Plan Commission unanimously approved the plan, encouraging the city to speak to the landowners about purchasing property to make the extension to Route 47 possible. Graff said he's spoken with Jay Bell, the son -in -law of the property owner. He said the developer has meet all of her requests concerning buffering and the right -to -farm laws. Sticka said everyone would like this development better if Faxon Road were extended. I Prochaska said he hopes an arrangement can be worked out with the property. owners. He said some people have asked why an agreement wasn't reached with the landowners first. He said the city wanted to wait until the development gets approved before seeking any sort of agreement. i He also said he'd like for Faxon Road to remain a collector street whether the extension goes through or not because there is a school site planned for the area. Sticka said the other issue recharging the Schlessler Fen. Whitehouse reported it could actually be improved with the development. Typically, the city requires sump pumps to the storm water. But in this instance, that might not be necessary. Ohare asked what the square footages are on the homes. Young said there are 10 different models. The size of the smaller ranches is about 1,550 square feet. The smaller two -story homes will be about 1,650 to 2,100 square feet. The rest of the homes will be 2,100 to 3,100 square feet. Prices of the homes will range from $200,000 to somewhere in the $300,000 range. Graff also said representatives from an existing church which is contiguous to the property asked if there were any concerns from the developer about a skate park being planned on the church property. The developers indicated they had no concerns. Alderwoman Valerie Burd suggested a trail be made from the development to the skate park so residents could use it. The committee agreed to move the preliminary plan forward to the C.O.W. meeting on Sept. 2. Page 5 of 5 Develonment Flow Charts Mayor Prochaska presented a proposed new development flow chart. He said the City Council wants to know if there is some way, before a developer submits a new application on a concept plan, for the City Council to view it. Currently, a developer submits a concept plan to the Plan Commission. After the Plan Commission makes its comments, the developer makes the recommended changes and submits a new application. That new application then goes to the City Council. Kramer said he doesn't see a problem with adding a bubble on the flow chart to allow the Committee of the Whole to view the concept plan and make comments before the first round of changes are made. He said that move would not be usurping the authority of the Plan Commission. The meeting adjourned at 8:37 p.m. Minutes respectfully submitted by Dina Gipe � i I �C SIt C�,. rr