EDC Minutes 2003 08-21-03 1
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APPROVED PY THE
UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
COMMl:7EEISOiARD
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING ON: q lS U3
THURSDAY, AUGUST 21, 2003
ATTENDANCE
Committee members: Aldermen Richard Sticka and Joe Besco, Alderwomen Wanda
Ohare and Valerie Burd; City Attorney Dan Kramer; Mayor Art Prochaska; City
Administrator Tony Graff; Lynn Dubajic, Yorkville Economic Development
Corporation; John Watson, Gardner, Carton and Douglas; Richard Young, Kimball Hill
Homes; Larry Vaupel, Wiseman - Hughes; Rich Guerard.
PRESENTATION
City Administrator Tony Graff said city staff has discussed environmental zoning needs
in the community. The city has the local authority to adopt a pollution control ordinance.
He said the city wants to stay ahead of the game and be ready in case developers
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approach the city
Attorney John Watson with the firm Gardner, Carton and Douglas, Chicago, spoke
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regarding the city's need for a pollution control ordinance. He said local citing
ordinances are very common and very useful, especially in communities such as
Yorkville.
Under Illinois law a pollution control facility such as a landfill or transfer station must go
through local citing approval. However, not all municipalities have a local citing
ordinance. Many cities such as Yorkville that are involved in development issues have
developed their own citing ordinances, Watson said.
Though such ordinances, the municipalities can get application fees for the application
process and to pursue citing approval. In some cases the fees range from $50,000 to
$250,000, he said. But a standard fee is likely in the range of $50,000, he said.
Application fees, he said, are designed to incur all costs for review of applications,
outside expertise, public hearings, mailings and other related needs.
Many communities want to develop their own process that any developer wanting to
pursue these types of businesses would have to follow, Watson said. An ordinance also
would give the community the ability to decide the process of public notice and to
determine who would preside over a public hearing, he said.
City Attorney Dan Kramer said that because it's a specialized citing issue, many
municipalities don't run their own public hearings under such circumstances. Instead they
hire an attorney who specializes in environmental law.
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Watson said a pollution control ordinance allows a municipality to manage the process,
promote competition and fair decision - making.
Committee Chairman said the draft ordinance wasn't made specifically for Yorkville. He
asked if it was a standard ordinance. Watson said a bulk of the ordinance comes from the
state statutes. State statutes allow municipalities to recoup costs from developers looking
to start these types of businesses. However, he said it's easier for the communities to
establish an application or an up -front fee to cover those costs.
Regarding his fee, Graff had said the fees could range up to $10,000. Watson said the
process of drafting an ordinance would not entail those types of fees. The fees would only
reach the top amount if there was a dispute or objection raised by interested parties.
Alderwoman Wanda Ohare wanted to know when Watson would have an idea of what
his fees would be. Watson said he could break down the costs and provide a more
detailed account of what to expect. Ohare said she would like to have a better idea of
what the costs would be.
Besco said the ordinance is definitely some the city should have. Mayor Art Prochaska
agreed and said the city should have had something like this for a while. As the city
grows and the population grows, an ordinance like this is needed.
Kramer suggested the city hold a public hearing when adopting the ordinance. He said
it's real close to a text amendment.
The committee decided to move the matter to the Sept. 16 Committee of the Whole
meeting.
MINUTES
Minutes from the July meeting were approved.
BUILDING REPORT
The building reports from June and July 2003 were received and forwarded to the
Committee of the Whole.
PC 2003 -09 Windett Ridge Final Plat
Sticka told committee members the Plan Commission voted to recommend approval of
the final plat based on staff review.
Kramer said there was a fairly long laundry list of engineering comments from
Engineering Enterprises, Inc. Also, he said there was a small number of lots in one corner
of it that the Plan Commissioners felt wouldn't work without a lift station. EEI gave a
couple of alternatives. One was to talk to the sanitary district about lowering the lines,
which the sanitary district opposed. The other option was to leave off those 16 lots from
the plan until there is further development from the south.
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Stick said he recalls reading a comment from City Engineer Joe Wywrot about
insufficient water flow. Graff said Wywrot recommended an easement connection to
Windham- Deerpoint so that they can connect to the booster station.
There should be enough water supply at this time to service the development, Graff said.
However, Graff said Wywrot suggests the city should make sure the well and water tower
are under contract before final plat is approved. He added the city is now under contract.
As for the sewer system, Graff said the city could service 177 units until the rest of the
sewer line is put in place. He added the bids should be awarded in October for the river
crossing for the sewer lines.
Sticka commented on the fact that some cul -de -sac streets that are longer than the city's
ordinances allow. However, Larry Vaupel, with Wiseman- Hughes, said has been allowed
in the Planned Unit Development agreement.
Graff said they've met the proposed new standards. He said the concern isn't so much
about the length of the streets in a development; it is about the number of units on a
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street.
Sticka then asked about street names and wanted to know if street names are set in stone
if a final plat is approved. Graff said they could go back to be changed if a dual street
name is found. Vaupel said all of the street names in the development are historical. They
all come from the Yorkville history book.
Graff said John Whitehouse from EEI submitted a new review. He said they're all typical j
corrections. Sticka said he'd like to see City Planner Mike Schoppe's comments on the
development before the matter goes to the C.O.W. meeting on Sept. 2. Schoppe had not
received a copy of the final plat prior to the previous Plan Commission meeting.
PC 2002 -27 Fisher Property Preliminary Plan
Richard Young, with Kimball Hill Homes, said the developer is in conformance with the
concept plan. There are 450 lots planned on more than 300 acres and the developer is
seeking straight zoning. There is no PUD.
The major discussion at the Plan Commission was on whether the new Faxon Road
should go through to Route 47, he said.
Even without that issue resolved, Young said he'd like to move forward. Time is
essential. They'd like to begin moving dirt as soon as possible.
Sticka said the Faxon Road issue is a big issue. Plan Commission members were
concerned if the road doesn't go through and it stubs out there, why is it designed the way
it is, he said. They're concerned about the traffic flow onto Cannonball Trail, he said.
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Whitehouse suggested there should be another north -south road if Faxon Road cannot be
extended. Young, however, said Schoppe believes that the development would work as
is. The developers feel confident they subdivision can work and function with or without
the road going through to Route 47. Also, he said they could reserve a lot to make the
subdivision connect to Cannonball.
Sticka said he really think it's important to extend to Route 47. Young said the
developers would end the road; they won't stub it until they know for sure if the road will
go through.
Sticka. said the Plan Commission unanimously approved the plan, encouraging the city to
speak to the landowners about purchasing property to make the extension to Route 47
possible.
Graff said he's spoken with Jay Bell, the son -in -law of the property owner. He said the
developer has meet all of her requests concerning buffering and the right -to -farm laws.
Sticka said everyone would like this development better if Faxon Road were extended.
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Prochaska said he hopes an arrangement can be worked out with the property. owners. He
said some people have asked why an agreement wasn't reached with the landowners first.
He said the city wanted to wait until the development gets approved before seeking any
sort of agreement.
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He also said he'd like for Faxon Road to remain a collector street whether the extension
goes through or not because there is a school site planned for the area.
Sticka said the other issue recharging the Schlessler Fen. Whitehouse reported it could
actually be improved with the development. Typically, the city requires sump pumps to
the storm water. But in this instance, that might not be necessary.
Ohare asked what the square footages are on the homes. Young said there are 10 different
models. The size of the smaller ranches is about 1,550 square feet. The smaller two -story
homes will be about 1,650 to 2,100 square feet. The rest of the homes will be 2,100 to
3,100 square feet. Prices of the homes will range from $200,000 to somewhere in the
$300,000 range.
Graff also said representatives from an existing church which is contiguous to the
property asked if there were any concerns from the developer about a skate park being
planned on the church property. The developers indicated they had no concerns.
Alderwoman Valerie Burd suggested a trail be made from the development to the skate
park so residents could use it.
The committee agreed to move the preliminary plan forward to the C.O.W. meeting on
Sept. 2.
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Develonment Flow Charts
Mayor Prochaska presented a proposed new development flow chart. He said the City
Council wants to know if there is some way, before a developer submits a new
application on a concept plan, for the City Council to view it.
Currently, a developer submits a concept plan to the Plan Commission. After the Plan
Commission makes its comments, the developer makes the recommended changes and
submits a new application. That new application then goes to the City Council.
Kramer said he doesn't see a problem with adding a bubble on the flow chart to allow the
Committee of the Whole to view the concept plan and make comments before the first
round of changes are made. He said that move would not be usurping the authority of the
Plan Commission.
The meeting adjourned at 8:37 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by Dina Gipe
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