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CITY OF YORKVILLE
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING AGENDA
TUESDAY, MARCH 18,1997
Kathy Jones called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m.
Robert Lee's Property
Mr. Lee addressed the Committee asking for clarification of his B -3 zoned
property. A potential buyer (the bus company which services the Yorkville
Schools) has expressed interest in this property to operate a school bus
terminal. They plan on repairing and storing school buses. Bill Detmers stated
this would come under a M -1 district. Dan Kramer said the simplest way would
be for Mr. Lee to amend his B -3 classification under Special Use. This being a
potential traffic hazard onto Rt. 47 was discussed. Mr. Kramer recommended a
public hearing at Plan Commission to have the neighbors input. The Plan
Commission and City Council would need to review this request.
Access to Block Property
Amy Hecker of Harris Bank represented the Blocks. She requested an access
be provided between the Block farm and Mr. Ropollo's development. She said
this butts up to a land lock of about 140 acres of the Block's farm leaving no
access. Plan Council recommended approval. Lot 75 would be the out lot which
is the southern portion of the property where it lines up. Ms. Hecker gave Mr.
Nanninga a survey. Mr. Ropollo has not been presented with this request yet.
There was a staff meeting concerning Mr. Roppolo's PUD and some issues have
been settled. Mr. Kramer recommended to take the PUD to COW on Thursday
and for Ms. Hecker to make her request there.
Cannonball Estates
Attorney Cal Thelin represented the petitioners, Jeff Williams and Mike Bohr.
He reviewed the history of this petition stating most discussion has not been
about the plan but about a water problem in the area. He said the developers
believe the water problem is a city issue but want to develop their property to
meet specifications. He said they would do what the city asked including doing
direct support to the neighbors or depositing money for the city to use for that
purpose.
Mr. Thelin said they reduced the lots behind Cannonball Trail by one, so they
are now larger in size. Mike Schoppe, of Hitchcock Designs, presented the
updated plan. He said they are using the Comprehensive Plan and the 56.6
acres with 111 lots to achieve gross density of 1.96 units per acre. He explained
their proposed storm water management system which is a pond of 4.8 acres.
He stated the Cannonball Trail frontage lots have changed to be consistant with
the existing homes having a setback of 100 ft. back from the center line.
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A slightly higher birm will be constructed and the Cannonball Trail road access
has been eliminated.
The road west of the property has also been eliminated. Mr. Nanninga stated
they could have islands in the proposed cul -de -sacs if they kept 27 ft. of
pavement and they were maintained by the homeowner's association. An
emergency access through Lot 91 may be added.
Ms. Jones stated the developers have not created a transitional area for the lot
sizes as recommended by Plan Commission and the density has not changed.
Mr. Procheska suggested that a hold be put on Lot 19 due to it being across
from a cross street that would go to the west according to the revised
Comprehensive Plan. Jeff Spang commented that until the water issue has been
resolved, the best use of this land would be AG -1.
Vern Henne passed out pictures of this property taken after the February flood
showing a large amount of standing water. He expressed his concern about 111
sump pumps and the retention plans.
Cal Thelin said they view this as an engineering problem which their engineers
have looked into. He said in their annexation agreement they would meet the
city's requirements with respect to the engineering. He asked that the water
issue be set aside so they could redo the concept plan and discuss the issues
on the needed road work, cul -de -sac issues and things that staff can deal with.
He asked that this plan stay here and not go to Plan Commission until it could go
forward with a positive recommendation.
Art Prochaska stated the developers need to figure out their density and then
address the storm water management planning. Ms. Jones said the city's tests
will be done this spring. Mr. Thelin asked to talk with staff and come back next
month.
Coach Road Hills
This is being sent to COW this Thursday.
Sunflower Estates
Greg Gabel of Inland presented the plan. He referred to a March 14 letter to
Ms. Jones from Inland concerning some off site recapture agreements of
sanitary sewer and water main. It is Inland's position not to resist but they
request more information from Mr. Kramer before entering into an agreement.
Mr. Gabel stated they agree to construct the sidewalk along the south side of
Greenbriar Road along the property they own. They will pay for their share of
improvement costs of approximately $36,000.
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Mr. Gabel stated they agree that Scott Drive needs to be vacated and would do
it when they get approval on the commercial areas. Silica Sand does not want
the road vacated because they use it. The need for a public hearing was
discussed..
Ms. Jones said the original recapture fees in regard to the Southwest interceptor
is by ordinance. The Greenbriar Road water main and water crossing will go
forward but Inland reserves the right to comment and object to the City Council's
resolution on these matters if necessary. Mr. Kramer said it will cost $25 per
j p.e. for the river crossing which will not be a recapture fee. It will be presented
in the form of an ordinance and any developer wanting to use the sewer plant
will have to pay the $25 per p.e.
Joe Wyrott stated there is a need for a traffic study, the approval of road
connections and right of way dedications. He asked of the status of Walsh Dr.
(20) and suggested it being a mix of a local street and a collector street having a
thicker pavement structure. This will go to COW Thursday,
Fox Mill PUD Agreement
Mr. Kramer said a PUD agreement had been faxed to Mr. Nanninga on March 4.
He wants clarification of technical terms from staff. Mr. Kramer said it will be put
in final format for COW Thursday.
Joe Wyrott said he thought there was a verbal agreement with the developer to
fund and construct a storm sewer on Mill St. from south of the property line to the
center of Hydraulic St. From the center line of Hydraulic the developer would
supply the material but the city would construct it. The written agreement does
not confirm this. There was a question of accepting the street lights. There has
not been a preliminary plan submitted. The wording of the design and recapture
of the storm sewer was unclear.
John Spenader, project engineer, said this will be included in the final plan
engineering. This PUD will be reviewed at Thursday's COW.
Thornton Oil - Special Use Permit Request
Mark Wardlaw, director of development of Thornton Oil Corp., presented their
plan. They are a privately held company based in Louisville, KY. They own and
operate 135 gas and convenience stores and are proposing a gas station on the
corner of Rt. 47 & Rt. 34. Thornton Oil would lease one lot off the corner of Rt.
34. The plan presented has been reviewed by IDOT for access and have
received preliminary approval. The property is zoned for commercial use, but
because they would sell gas, they need a Special Use permit. They would have
an access driveway via easements. Mr. Kramer asked to see a written
agreement for easements.
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Mr. Wardlaw estimates this store would generate approximately 3.5 M in fuel
sales and 1.1 -1.3 M in retail sales. They will request a liquor license to sell beer
as the competitors do. Three full time salaried (plus bonus) managers and 12-
15 full /part time hourly employees will be employed. The property improvements
will be 1.5 M dollars and there will be oil and water separators. The structure
prototype was presented. This request will go to COW Thursday.
Fox Hollow PUD
There will be a public hearing on April 10. Mr. Kramer stated about 20 things
needed to be changed and the PUD length would be reduced before being
signed. This will be reviewed at COW April 3.
Subdivision - Oranae & Mill
Bill Detmers said he issued the permits for this project to be built based upon the
city ordinances. It was his opinion he followed the city rules and this permit was
issued properly. He said he does a zoning analysis whenever he issues a
permit including checking setbacks. Mr. Detmers stated there are other lots in
town where this question may come up. The lot in question had been
reconfigured. Many city lots are non conforming and are not 1,200 sq. ft. The
Illinois Plat Act was discussed. Mr. Detmers said he will report to the city
manager when an older lot comes in to be built upon. Ms. Jones said the Ward
Alderman could then be notified.
Edmeier PUD Aareement - Preliminary & Final Plat
Mr. Kramer said Edmeier had given the city a PUD and he had recommended
changes. Ms. Jones said the K -1 change had not been added. Mr. Kramer said
on the top of page 5, a sentence will be added saying "developer shall reimburse
the city for any costs associated with the easement acquisition." The city feels
they can acquire the easements quicker and at a lesser cost, but they want to be
reimbursed. This PUD agreement will go to COW Thursday.
Rosenwinkel / Kendall Co. - Reauestina Rezonina from AG to A -1 SU for
Radio Tower
Ms. Jones stated this is a rezoning request from the county to go from AGA to
AG -1 Special Use for a radio tower. It was approved by Plan Commission. The
tower will be 400 ft. and constructed on Galena Rd. outside city limits but within
the 1 '/ miles. Mr. Nanninga said the proposed ordinance only deals with
licensing. This will proceed to Thursday's COW.
Development Fees - Uo Front
Mr. Prochaska stated his request for the city to receive some part of
development fees up front. He said that when a few houses are built on the
back of the developments, they still receive full city services. He does not think
those fees should be tied to the building permits.
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Mr. Prochaska said the development fees are put upon the builder. He
suggested asking for 1/3 up front and have time limit wording. This will be
discussed at future meetings.
Zonina Densitv / Net or Gross
Dave Kisser suggested the zoning ordinance be clarified and amended. He
stated there is confusion when gross / net density is used. It was stated that for
zoning net is used, and for comprehensive gross is used. Ms. Jones suggested
this issue should go to Planning Council to have a better definition stated.
February Buildina Report
This will go to COW, Ms. Jones asked if a basic PUD checklist could be
developed for common elements. There was also discussion of the cost of
obtaining smaller Comp Plan Update map.
Adiournment
The meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
Submitted by,
Sheryl Washburn
Recording Secretary
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