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EDC Minutes 1997 03-18-97 II I CITY OF YORKVILLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING AGENDA TUESDAY, MARCH 18,1997 Kathy Jones called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m. Robert Lee's Property Mr. Lee addressed the Committee asking for clarification of his B -3 zoned property. A potential buyer (the bus company which services the Yorkville Schools) has expressed interest in this property to operate a school bus terminal. They plan on repairing and storing school buses. Bill Detmers stated this would come under a M -1 district. Dan Kramer said the simplest way would be for Mr. Lee to amend his B -3 classification under Special Use. This being a potential traffic hazard onto Rt. 47 was discussed. Mr. Kramer recommended a public hearing at Plan Commission to have the neighbors input. The Plan Commission and City Council would need to review this request. Access to Block Property Amy Hecker of Harris Bank represented the Blocks. She requested an access be provided between the Block farm and Mr. Ropollo's development. She said this butts up to a land lock of about 140 acres of the Block's farm leaving no access. Plan Council recommended approval. Lot 75 would be the out lot which is the southern portion of the property where it lines up. Ms. Hecker gave Mr. Nanninga a survey. Mr. Ropollo has not been presented with this request yet. There was a staff meeting concerning Mr. Roppolo's PUD and some issues have been settled. Mr. Kramer recommended to take the PUD to COW on Thursday and for Ms. Hecker to make her request there. Cannonball Estates Attorney Cal Thelin represented the petitioners, Jeff Williams and Mike Bohr. He reviewed the history of this petition stating most discussion has not been about the plan but about a water problem in the area. He said the developers believe the water problem is a city issue but want to develop their property to meet specifications. He said they would do what the city asked including doing direct support to the neighbors or depositing money for the city to use for that purpose. Mr. Thelin said they reduced the lots behind Cannonball Trail by one, so they are now larger in size. Mike Schoppe, of Hitchcock Designs, presented the updated plan. He said they are using the Comprehensive Plan and the 56.6 acres with 111 lots to achieve gross density of 1.96 units per acre. He explained their proposed storm water management system which is a pond of 4.8 acres. He stated the Cannonball Trail frontage lots have changed to be consistant with the existing homes having a setback of 100 ft. back from the center line. Economic Development_ Committee Meeting 3/18/97 A slightly higher birm will be constructed and the Cannonball Trail road access has been eliminated. The road west of the property has also been eliminated. Mr. Nanninga stated they could have islands in the proposed cul -de -sacs if they kept 27 ft. of pavement and they were maintained by the homeowner's association. An emergency access through Lot 91 may be added. Ms. Jones stated the developers have not created a transitional area for the lot sizes as recommended by Plan Commission and the density has not changed. Mr. Procheska suggested that a hold be put on Lot 19 due to it being across from a cross street that would go to the west according to the revised Comprehensive Plan. Jeff Spang commented that until the water issue has been resolved, the best use of this land would be AG -1. Vern Henne passed out pictures of this property taken after the February flood showing a large amount of standing water. He expressed his concern about 111 sump pumps and the retention plans. Cal Thelin said they view this as an engineering problem which their engineers have looked into. He said in their annexation agreement they would meet the city's requirements with respect to the engineering. He asked that the water issue be set aside so they could redo the concept plan and discuss the issues on the needed road work, cul -de -sac issues and things that staff can deal with. He asked that this plan stay here and not go to Plan Commission until it could go forward with a positive recommendation. Art Prochaska stated the developers need to figure out their density and then address the storm water management planning. Ms. Jones said the city's tests will be done this spring. Mr. Thelin asked to talk with staff and come back next month. Coach Road Hills This is being sent to COW this Thursday. Sunflower Estates Greg Gabel of Inland presented the plan. He referred to a March 14 letter to Ms. Jones from Inland concerning some off site recapture agreements of sanitary sewer and water main. It is Inland's position not to resist but they request more information from Mr. Kramer before entering into an agreement. Mr. Gabel stated they agree to construct the sidewalk along the south side of Greenbriar Road along the property they own. They will pay for their share of improvement costs of approximately $36,000. 2 Economic Development Committee Meeting 3/18/97 Mr. Gabel stated they agree that Scott Drive needs to be vacated and would do it when they get approval on the commercial areas. Silica Sand does not want the road vacated because they use it. The need for a public hearing was discussed.. Ms. Jones said the original recapture fees in regard to the Southwest interceptor is by ordinance. The Greenbriar Road water main and water crossing will go forward but Inland reserves the right to comment and object to the City Council's resolution on these matters if necessary. Mr. Kramer said it will cost $25 per j p.e. for the river crossing which will not be a recapture fee. It will be presented in the form of an ordinance and any developer wanting to use the sewer plant will have to pay the $25 per p.e. Joe Wyrott stated there is a need for a traffic study, the approval of road connections and right of way dedications. He asked of the status of Walsh Dr. (20) and suggested it being a mix of a local street and a collector street having a thicker pavement structure. This will go to COW Thursday, Fox Mill PUD Agreement Mr. Kramer said a PUD agreement had been faxed to Mr. Nanninga on March 4. He wants clarification of technical terms from staff. Mr. Kramer said it will be put in final format for COW Thursday. Joe Wyrott said he thought there was a verbal agreement with the developer to fund and construct a storm sewer on Mill St. from south of the property line to the center of Hydraulic St. From the center line of Hydraulic the developer would supply the material but the city would construct it. The written agreement does not confirm this. There was a question of accepting the street lights. There has not been a preliminary plan submitted. The wording of the design and recapture of the storm sewer was unclear. John Spenader, project engineer, said this will be included in the final plan engineering. This PUD will be reviewed at Thursday's COW. Thornton Oil - Special Use Permit Request Mark Wardlaw, director of development of Thornton Oil Corp., presented their plan. They are a privately held company based in Louisville, KY. They own and operate 135 gas and convenience stores and are proposing a gas station on the corner of Rt. 47 & Rt. 34. Thornton Oil would lease one lot off the corner of Rt. 34. The plan presented has been reviewed by IDOT for access and have received preliminary approval. The property is zoned for commercial use, but because they would sell gas, they need a Special Use permit. They would have an access driveway via easements. Mr. Kramer asked to see a written agreement for easements. 3 Economic Development Committee Meeting 3/18/97 Mr. Wardlaw estimates this store would generate approximately 3.5 M in fuel sales and 1.1 -1.3 M in retail sales. They will request a liquor license to sell beer as the competitors do. Three full time salaried (plus bonus) managers and 12- 15 full /part time hourly employees will be employed. The property improvements will be 1.5 M dollars and there will be oil and water separators. The structure prototype was presented. This request will go to COW Thursday. Fox Hollow PUD There will be a public hearing on April 10. Mr. Kramer stated about 20 things needed to be changed and the PUD length would be reduced before being signed. This will be reviewed at COW April 3. Subdivision - Oranae & Mill Bill Detmers said he issued the permits for this project to be built based upon the city ordinances. It was his opinion he followed the city rules and this permit was issued properly. He said he does a zoning analysis whenever he issues a permit including checking setbacks. Mr. Detmers stated there are other lots in town where this question may come up. The lot in question had been reconfigured. Many city lots are non conforming and are not 1,200 sq. ft. The Illinois Plat Act was discussed. Mr. Detmers said he will report to the city manager when an older lot comes in to be built upon. Ms. Jones said the Ward Alderman could then be notified. Edmeier PUD Aareement - Preliminary & Final Plat Mr. Kramer said Edmeier had given the city a PUD and he had recommended changes. Ms. Jones said the K -1 change had not been added. Mr. Kramer said on the top of page 5, a sentence will be added saying "developer shall reimburse the city for any costs associated with the easement acquisition." The city feels they can acquire the easements quicker and at a lesser cost, but they want to be reimbursed. This PUD agreement will go to COW Thursday. Rosenwinkel / Kendall Co. - Reauestina Rezonina from AG to A -1 SU for Radio Tower Ms. Jones stated this is a rezoning request from the county to go from AGA to AG -1 Special Use for a radio tower. It was approved by Plan Commission. The tower will be 400 ft. and constructed on Galena Rd. outside city limits but within the 1 '/ miles. Mr. Nanninga said the proposed ordinance only deals with licensing. This will proceed to Thursday's COW. Development Fees - Uo Front Mr. Prochaska stated his request for the city to receive some part of development fees up front. He said that when a few houses are built on the back of the developments, they still receive full city services. He does not think those fees should be tied to the building permits. 4 Economic Development Committee Meeting 3/18/97 Mr. Prochaska said the development fees are put upon the builder. He suggested asking for 1/3 up front and have time limit wording. This will be discussed at future meetings. Zonina Densitv / Net or Gross Dave Kisser suggested the zoning ordinance be clarified and amended. He stated there is confusion when gross / net density is used. It was stated that for zoning net is used, and for comprehensive gross is used. Ms. Jones suggested this issue should go to Planning Council to have a better definition stated. February Buildina Report This will go to COW, Ms. Jones asked if a basic PUD checklist could be developed for common elements. There was also discussion of the cost of obtaining smaller Comp Plan Update map. Adiournment The meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m. Submitted by, Sheryl Washburn Recording Secretary I i 5