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EDC Minutes 1997 01-27-97 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE Committee Minutes - Economic Development Date of Meeting: January 27, 1997 Location: 111 W. Fox Time Convened: 7:00 P.M. Time Adjourned: 9:35 P.M. Attendees: Kath Jones Jeff Spang Jerr Lynch Jim Nanninga Art Prochaska Tom Sowinski Joe w wrot T.J. Hiles Tonyy Scott Bill Ro polo Tom Greer Gordon Hughes Paul Burd Discussion: 1.) Fox Mill Landing - Existing buildin plans are changing, Phase One was passed in Plan Commission if five items were taken care of. The P.U.D. agreement needs to be done. They would like the a concrete pipe instead of PVC. Plan Commission thinks that they should follow the Cit Engineer. Developer can not put in split rail fence because they have not gotten easement from the railroad. The developer thinks he will be able to get the easement in Phase Two. What if he never gets easement? Spang suggest maybe putting fence up right before driveway, then once the easement is acquired then move fence, The road is not in yet. Burd will check on road. They don't have P.U.D. agreement yet. There is an easement to the second lot, but they can't use it for anything. Won't have sidewalk until Phase Two. The railroad is very hard to deal with. The developer really needs to get the easements from the railroad. The spur is still there and needs to be removed first. Prochaska feels the City is being put in an awkward spot. It is a great development but there is a live railroad two feet out the front doors, If someone was to purchase Robb Container and want to use the railroad spur, its still there and they would be able to use it. FS also uses the spur. Spang suggest making the front doors for emergency use only. The entrance and exit will be on the South side of the building. The garages are ZO'd 9LSL- 658 - 0E9 '}>I -AW /SOLES dA °OU04S 4;DLa VIV:80 L6- 90 - qO� - Page 2 - on the South side. Fence is to protect from the main line because that line is used on regular basis. Prochaska suggest covering the door with some type of railing, but still make it so people can get out in case of emergency. They will need to make sure it will pass the fire codes. This development needs two sources of water Plan Commission recommended a loop A loop will cost approximately $20,000, They could loop through Robb Container back up to Van Emmon. They would need to get easement back to Van Emmon. Current Ordinance requires two sources of water. The water at the end of a line usually is not very fresh and for hydrants. Wywrot said that if Phase Two is never developed he would rather see a short water main. Burd will talk with Darrin. The Storm Sewer needs to be deeper. The current Storm Sewer will handle Phase One. Wywrot recommends extending all the way to the River. They would have to go under the railroad tracks. Nanninga would like to suggest that Darrin to put sewer in under the railroad tracks and paying for all supplier and the City will install the remainder of the line to the River. Wywrot is concerned that if too many items are put on Phase Two, it may not get completed. Wywrot will talk with Darrin, if he agrees it will be put in the P.U.D. agreement. This will either come back to next EDC or will go to COW on 2/6/97. 2.) Lot at Orange and Mill - Old lots should be developed as is. Prochaska would like to know the State Stature. State Stature does not give anyone the right to override a City Ordinance. If a resident within 12,000 feet complain, then the City can issue a Stop Permit. This needs to be looked at. Once an old lot is turned, then it becomes a new lot and must conform to the current City Ordinances. A lot of older lots are more narrow. The City currently has no way to look at the lot. There needs to be a way that the City is notified when a lot is moved. Spang said that is this case, the old plat was there with new configurations. There are several of these older lots in town and there needs to be some way to address it. Hiles said there is not an easy answer for this. Jones suggest asking Detmer to next meeting. If someone wants to change the configuration they should have to request a variance. Hiles said the City could do an Ordinance for this. 3.) Roppolo /Coach Road Hills - Nanninga had a meeting with Dan about three weeks ago to see where everything is at, If the Sewer issue is solved with Edmeier, then it will take care of this. Roppolo will still only be Eo'd 9Z9Z- 658 -0E9 4N- AW /SOLPS dA `auo 4=)LN ` IV:80 L6- 90 -qaj - Page S- able to put in the first 177 units. When they get to 178 then he will have to front fund the money to get the line from Rt. 71 to the new River crossing. However, ca at the Plant is limited. The first 177 units will o to the temporary lift station just north of the Industrial Park. On the first 177 units Roppolo will be paying a double recapture. Those 177 units will be moved to the permanent line, When Roppolo gets to unit 178 the City will deduct the Pot -O -Money and the remainder amount would need to be j paid. Roppolo will have the option to front fund the money or wait until someone else puts in the line. Country Hills will also be paying a recapture fee. Roppolo said he will be paying in prepaid fees, the building permits are $10,500, City sewer connection fee of 52000, and $642 in recapture fees. The $2000 is not meant to extend the lines, The P.E. averages 3.5 per home. Anyone that taps onto the Rt. 47 line has to pay a reca fee. The Rt. 47 line is a commercial line. The recapture fee for the Rt.47 line is paid to the County. Roppolo has approximately 40 units that can hook into the Rt. 47 line. Nanninga feels that Edmeier needs to be approved before Roppolo but it could go to COW the same night. There is an Intergovernmental agreement being drafted now. If Edmeier is not in first or approved first the Roppolo will not get 177 units. Roppolo went to Park Board last week. Nanninga would like to see P,U.D. before COW on 2/6/97, Hughes wanted to know if there -are any delays with Edmeier could Roppolo be approved on continent of Edmeier? Dan thought that would be ok. Hughes will work with Dan on everything except the sewer. COW with P.U.D. 4.) Land Cash Ordinance (Park Standard) - Nanninga would like to add "at time of preliminary plat. Nanninga would then like to make sure that preliminary and final plat are the same. This should go to Park Board before Plan Commission before preliminary after concept. Wywrot is finding. some conflicting items in the Ordinance. He would like some time to review and bring back. The purpose of this Ordinance is to discourage developers to give the City their worst piece of property. Prochaska thinks this should cover anything that someone wants the City to take and also anything that will go into a Homeowners Association. Including anything on private property. Nanninga thinks that if there is a Homeowners Association then the City would be collecting fees and would hire a landscaping company to maintain the grounds. Jones would like Nanninga and Wywrot to look at it, if ok take to COW, if we need to make changes bring back. VO'd 9L9L- 658 -0E9 - 1­�i- -+W /Sal­pS dA `auo -4S 4Z) VTV =80 16- 90 -U0=1 - Page 4 - 5.) December Building Report - Looks good. B.) Parking Standards - Looking for all Parking to be independently accessible, to townhomes requirement is two car enclosed. Need to get some clarification on apartment hotel. Sowinski would like to know about parking boats, trailers, and motor homes in driveway, or next to a garage for the winter months. Would the City consider allowing this in summer months only? 7.) R -3, R -4 Zoning Modifications - R -3 will allow five units per acre, This is at the low end but is acceptable. For townhomes, Ordinance states that Not more than 30 percent of the area of a zoningg lot may be covered by buildings or structures, including accessory buildings, Jones would like a description of a structure. There is a minimum if 12 ,000 square feet for a single stor and 14,000 square feet for a two story space excluding the garage. Nanninga got the minimums from Detmer. R -4 Apartments - Five acres are per gross acres. Minimum lot area per dwelling was increased by 20 percent to decrease density, 8.) Storm Water Storage Requirements - This Ordinance is to discourage detention /retention in the front of the property. However, if it has to go there then there will be some restrictions on it. If the area is less then five feet, then the City will accept Blue /Green. To be in accordance with the current Ordinance, Ordinance will read that all grass areas should be maintained as a normal grassed yard with grass height in accordance with the current Ordinance. 9,) Additional Business Wednesday night there is a Building Code Workshop at F.E. Wheaton. Thursday there is a Public Hearing. Large Estate Zoning is going to COW, combine sewer and water together. Dunkin Donuts will be reopening approximately 2/1/97, Thornton Oil will be giving some references, Thornton Oil, gas station with Convenience Store. They might also be looking at a liquor licenses to sell packaged liquor. Home Page - Lynch said it is just a map of Yorkville. There is no text. Nanninga has talked to Library and Park Board to maybe come up with something. Need to have some key words. Some Cities are making money off their Home Page, The City could consider selling advertising space to local business owners. 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