EDC Minutes 1997 02-18-97 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
Committee Minutes - Economic Development
Date of Meeting: February 18, 1997 Location: 111 W. Fox
Time Convened: 7:00 P.M. Time Adjourned. 10:40 P.M.
Attendees:
Art Prochaska
Jim Liggett
T.J. Hiles
Jeff Spang
Kathy Jones
Joe W wrot
Dave Kisser
Jim Nanninga
Vern Henning
Dean Edmeier
John Spenader
J.T. Johnson
Mayor Bob Johnson
Tom Sowinski
Matt Fiascone
Greg Gabel
Discussion:
1.) Cannonball Water - Over the last few days, City has received letter
from Lindley. Lindley wants to put in 10 monitoring wells. One of
the test wells will be in Dave Kisser's back yard. Test wells will cost
approximately $3285. Protective casings will cost an additional
$46.00 per test well. Wywrot recommends doing, the test wells.
Nannin a said the City does not have money in the budget this ear.
The City does have money in a Continence Fund that will cover the
cost bu it will use the majority of the money. Monitoring time will go
on as needed. Three months minimum. Should try to have
Monitoring Wells Installed before the ground thaws. Prochaska asked
if some of the cost for the Monitoring Wells could be passed off to
the developers? Seven of the Monitoring wells will be on the North
west side of Cannonball Trail. If the Monitoring wells shows that
everything is stable with little to no fluctuation then the City will only
Monitor for three months. Kisser said there is a broken field tile.
Wywrot said that the the was replaced when the Sewer line was put
in. Wywrot said there is no real way to tell if a broken field tile will
have any effect on the levels of water. Liggett asked what the
objective of the testing was? Jones said the objective is to determine
if the installation of the Sewer line by the City caused the flow
problems. Kisser has tried to reach Lindley. Lindley was going to try
to talk with Hofer, Water Engineer hired by Cannonball Trail residents.
Lindley was suppose to get a proposal to the City. Mayor Johnson
said we do need to go through the whole area. Liggett said that
since 1973 the whore area needed to be gone through and studied.
This testing is the first step. Prochaska asked what the State Stature
is? Wywrot said he did not know much about the Stature for this.
Its kind of a common sense thing If there is ground water there
don't put your basement there. Mayor Johnson does not think that
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this should wait until next year. Once the testing is done then the
City will be able to compare and will be able to make a determination.
V ang suggest hopscotching the Sewer line. Kisser thinks the three
onitoring wells at a right angle to the trench would be very
beneficial. Spang asked if they would consider paying for the three
additional wells? Kisser said there is a whole section of Utilities
running through there. Extra three wells will cost approximately
$900. Wywrot will talk to Lindley about the perpendicular Monitoring
wells. Jones suggest using the money in the Contingency Fund.
Vern thinks that Lindley and Hofer should work together to come up
with a viable solution. City needs to make sure Lindley understands
this is on the Sewer line and not the new Development. Kisser would
like to Monitoring wells to be deeper than five feet. There have been
inconsistancies with the water level. No one has a problem with
Lindley and Hofer working together. Bring to COW for update and
discuss spending the money on monitoring wells.
2.) Fox Highlands P.U.D. Agreement - The single family lots sidewalks are
only four feet wide. Edmeier said that is just a typo and should be
five feet. Edmeier will use Letter of Credit form that the City has
made up. Sowinski asked if there was a Homeowners Association for
the townhome section. Prochaska said the Is property owned jointly.
Property is part of what they purchase. Edmeier said it is not the
same as a Condo Association. A Condo Association has to be
maintained. Spang asked if a Homeowners Association could be tied
to a Maintenance Bond. J.T. asked if an SSA could be set up.
Edmeier has no problems with an SSA. By law Edmeier will be
entitled to get a recapture fee if he pays more that he gets back.
Wywrot said all amounts are estimates. Recaptures are based on final
plat. Prochaska thought that If a Developer was given an estimated
amount and the Developer pays it, then the City can not go back and
ask for more. Cost is 821 fi on the Southwest line. $425 on the
ComEd line. $ 1800 hook on fees. Edmeier would like to get an
amount. If he pays more then he will get a recapture fee from other
Developments coming in. City needs to come up with some numbers.
Numbers need to be put in P.U.D. The P.E. is whatever the current
rate is. In January of 1996 the P.E. was 235 per P.E. P.E. is 3.5 for
a single family resident. Edmeier wants P.E. at 216. P.E. is set at
time of P.U.D. agreement. Edmeier feels he is being very reasonable.
Yorkville is a very difficult City to give a million dollars to. Edmeier
want to use the P.E. from October. Mayor Johnson wants to make
sure its the same for everyone hereafter. THe paragraph will need to
include correct figures. Will need to take out the Southwest
Interceptor. Edmeier has an agreement with the Sanitary. The EPA
will have to allow development. YBSD does not control the hook on
permits. EPA allows the hook on permits. Estimate and design for
the Interceptor will have to be approved. The Lift Station is being
moved from the South end of the in Industrial Park to the North end.
Will tear up some driveways and Beaver Street with heavy equipment.
Wywrot said the Development will need a second Water Main. One
will come from Country Hills and the second one can come from the
Roppolo Development. If Roppolo does not develop then Edmeier will
need to go to Rt. 47. Wywrot asked if the City would want to require
a bond for the Golf Course. Charlie, the farm owner wants to make
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sure the Golf Course goes in. Wywrot is concerned with IDOT set
backs. This will be added in. Developer agrees to all State /IDOT
requirements. There should also be suitable buffering between the
Golf Course and the adjacent property. Phase One final plat, all
multi - family. Edmeier would like Phase One P.U.D. agreement and
the Sewer all to be passed in one shot at CZIW on March 6, 1997.
3.) Undesser Annexation Agreement - Undessers Attorney called. They
have made a few minor changes. They have offered to donate the
money for the second Squad car after the remaining 50 percent of the
property is developed. Spang would like to see it up front. They will
pay $7500 at time of issuance of Certificate of Occupancy. Upon 50
percent of the remaining property. .$7500 at time of permit. 520,000
or current price of a Squad Car at time of Preliminary approval of any
Development. T.J. suggest asking for a Squad Car up front and let
them counter offer. Jones said maybe a 50 - 50 but it could be a
long time before the remaining property is developed. Prochaska
thinks we should also look at the cost of traveling out there. Let the
Attorneys work it out.
4.) Coach Road Hills P.U.D. Agreement - Jones would like any
suggestions or changes given to her.
5.) Sloniger /Fox Mill Unit 1 Final Plat /P.U.D. Agreement - No agreement.
6.) Sunflower Estates - Northwest corner of of Rt. 47 and Rt. 71.
Several years ago someone use to grow Sunflowers there. Phase
One, lots are 12,000 square feet. They have met with the Park
Board. Park Board asked them to donate land. They have agreed to
extend the line if Fox Hollow does not develop. They will be doing
landscaping plans. Green Briar street recapture - Now street lights are
required every 300 feet. Inland donated the Right of Way in
exchange for use of a fully developed road. Fiascone said that if the
road doesn't meet the City standards, then the City did not enforce
their standards. P.U.D. agreement - City can change or add in things
that are needed in accordance with the City Ordinances. Wywrot said
plans for the read were never approved. Spang asked if anyone
signed off on the road. J.T. said the road was never accepted. The
engineering was not approved. Street Light and Sidewalks were not
shown on the plan. The street is City property. T.J. said the
agreement was for payment for roadway. 12 and one half percent is
for roadway only, not including improvements. Road is an off site
road. Subdivision Control Ordinance does not say on site or off site.
Span$ thinks City should speak with Wehrli. Fiascone has heard that
there is a recapture fee for the line going down Green Briar Road.
Fiascone has not seen one. Second source of Water, the full amount
can be recaptured. Fiascone does not agree with that. Right now
there is only one source of Water. $pan said zoning is R -2.
Statement that can be set aside M -1 or R 2. There are not any
minutes sayin this is R -2. This was not mentioned in Public Hearing.
Petitioned for 15-3 considering M -1. Agreement was done in April of
1993. The residents have not heard about the changes. A notice
would have had to be put in the paper. Sowinski suggest research
Public Hearing. It was a signed agreement, when annexed. Spang
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would like to see petition. Prochaska asked what happens it this goes
to a Public Hearing and the neighboring residents say no. Then Inland
will have a case against the City. The residents need to be notified
It was zoned in 1393. Prochaska said that R -2 is a less restrictive use
zoning. Need to do some research. Need to discuss it with Dan.
YBSD needs info as soon as possible. Inland needs to know the
amounts. Is the City going to require sidewalks along t. 477 Green
Briar is a collector road. Wywrot said there is some Commercial
eroperty. Spang would like to see sidewalks. Maybe not right away.
Some of the lots will have a sidewalk in front and in back of the
property. The current Ordinance request sidewalks. J.T. said
normally on Commercial, the Developer will come in and say what
they want to do. The City determines what goes where. Fiascone
said that they agreed to give $36,500 and the Right of Way. T.J.
said the agreement was for the road. It did not include sidewalks and
street lights. Fiascone said if the road does not most the Subdivision
Control Ordinance then the City should not have issued any permits
and they are not going to fix it. Get Wehrll to fix the road. Wywrot
said a roadway could not be park land. Wywrot said they could put
in some underground culverts. Jones does not see a need for an
additional stub. But the stub is calculated as park space. Road is for
the future because it is very close to Green Briar. City needs to talk
with Dan on Public Hearing and valid zoning.
7.► YBSD Agreement - The one main hang up is that YBSD wants the City
to make repairs from the Deuchler study and be successful at
reducing the inflow. The numbers make Mayor Johnson
uncomfortable. What if the City does all the repairs and almost reach
the number YBSD wants? What if the City does not get to the trigger
number to put in the crossing? Ralph says City is always going to
need the crossing. If YBSD is asking the City to do repairs then the
City needs to require them to put in the line. The new P.E. will not
count toward numbers from INI. If the City does all the repairs that
Deuchler says the City needs to do and the City can not to the trigger
number, then what? if the City does everything that Deuchler
recommends then the City should not be held accountable. Phillipe
should be able to stand behind his word. Nanninga would like to get
rid of the number. Nanninga, Ralph, and Phillipe are meeting next
week.
8.1 January Building Report - Take to COW.
9.) Additional Business -
Marketing Strategy - Jones has not received a report from Erdman.
Collecting Development Fees - Prochaska would like to discuss at
next meeting, how the City is collecting development, fees. Need a
resolution, send to Dan.
Minutes by: Mollie Anderson
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