Plan Commission Minutes 2008 10-08-08 APPROVED 11/12/08
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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
PLAN COMMISSION
YORKVILLE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Wednesday, October 8, 2008 7:00pm
Chairman Anne Lucietto called the meeting to order at 7:02pm.
Roll Call:
Clarence Holdiman Michael Crouch
Charles Kraupner Sandra Adams
Jeff Baker Tom Lindblom
Annie Lucietto, Chairman
Absent: Brian Schillinger, Jack Jones
A quorum was established
Other Citv Staff:
Mayor Valerie Burd, Ad Hoc Committee Member
Travis Miller, Community Development Director
Bob Allen, City Council Liaison (on behalf of Joe Besco)
Guests:
Matt Schury, Kendall County Record
Richard Scheffrahn
Lynette Neal, Depo Court
Minutes: August 13, 2008
The minutes were approved as read.
Public Hearings: Requested by Petitioners
1. PC 2008 -22 G.B. Illinois 2, LLC, petitioner, has requested a special use for
a drive through facility. The property is Lot 5 of the Cobblestone
Subdivision consisting of 2.33 acres located at the southeast corner of Route
34 and Eldamain Rd.
Chairman Lucietto said a letter from the project attorney had been received concerning
this petition. The petitioner has asked that the hearing be opening and continued to next
month. Baker made a motion to open the Public Hearing with a second from Holdiman.
Passed unanimously on a voice vote. There was no other comment from anyone present.
A motion was then made by Crouch and Lindblom respectively, to continue the hearing
per the petitioner's request. Roll call vote was taken: Crouch -aye; Kraupner -aye;
Adams -aye; Baker -aye; Lindblom -aye; Holdiman -aye; Lucietto -aye. The case will be
continued to November 12, 2008.
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A motion was then made by Crouch to close the Public Hearing and it was seconded by
Adams. Passed on a voice vote.
New Business:
1. Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map — modification on future commuter rail
station
Travis Miller said a memo from Senior Planner Stephanie Boettcher contained some
revisions in response to EDC's request for higher density near the proposed commuter
station. Two alternate land use plans were developed and he said the EDC favored Plan
2. The primary difference between the 2 plans was the mixed use along Rt. 34 that was
incorporated into Plan 2. The original plan suggested more commercial use.
The Public Hearing for the Comp Plan is scheduled for October 28 at the City Council
meeting. All Commission members were in agreement with the new revision.
2. Mining Regulation — Discussion
This matter was first discussed in the Administration Committee. Though there is not an
application pending at this time, Travis said the City has a 75 square mile planning area
with some current mining in Kendall County. He said the current ordinance addresses
mining, however, it requires further clarification.
Miller said 2 factors need to be considered:
1. Zoning classification —the current ordinance requires mining operations to be M2
2. Consider criteria in ordinance
He gave an overview of the discussion/suggestions from the City Staff including possible
classification of either Ag or Special Use. When the mining ceases, the area would
possibly change to a lake or recreation area. Staff recommended that a possible text
amendment might be needed if the Plan Commission felt it necessary.
Baker said he did not think mining fits into the Ag zoning class and was closer to Special
Use. Lindblom added that mining operations start in the County and building migrates
around the operation. Lucietto asked for additional research from other counties who
have similar makeups compared to Kendall County. The Boughton Gravel pit was cited
as a facility that now has growth surrounding it. A facility at 111 th St. near Naperville
was also mentioned. Travis will bring additional research to next month's meeting.
3. Plan Commission meeting schedule for 2009
The proposed meeting schedule for 2009 was presented. It was noted that the November
meeting would be held on the 3 rd Wednesday due to Veteran's Day being on the 2nd
Wednesday.
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Additional Business:
Chairman Lucietto recapped a request from last month's meeting whereby Plan
Commission members wished to have a discussion with Council members regarding the
vote to approve a gas station at Cannonball and Rt. 34. This followed a negative
recommendation from the Commission.
Mayor Burd was present to explain the Council's action. She said she had spoken with
residents and Aldermen prior to the vote. She said most of the Aldermen did not share
the Commission's concern about the gas station and felt it was an appropriate location for
a gas station. They felt the area had changed significantly since the original PUD was put
in place and did not feel that PUD was a contract. She said the current Council is a new
group of people who had no history with the Cannonball residents.
The Mayor said the Council values the Commission's input, however, the Commission is
elected to advise the Council. She said many of the Aldermen are concerned about the
environment, but did not feel there was a concern for this location.
Crouch stated he did not feel the Council gave much consideration to the issues raised by
the Commissioners and did not discuss possible runoff to residential wells or possible
leaking tanks. He felt the Councilmen put the tax revenues ahead of environmental
concerns.
Commissioner Baker added that the Commissioners have followed this case since its
inception and said that this matter had been through the courts twice. He felt the
Commissioners did a good job and wondered if the Councilmen had all the facts before
their vote. Mayor Burd said all the information was provided to the Council and added
that Alderwoman Sutcliff had attended the Plan Commission meeting. She conceded that
the tax revenue was part of the decision.
Alderman Bob Allen was present at this meeting and said although he voted against the
gas station, he stood behind the Council.
An alternative location further west was brought up by Baker. There was further
discussion that it would be near the Rob Roy watershed that ultimately drains to
Blackberry Creek.
In a final comment, Lindblom said he respected the Council's decision, but was bothered
because of the overturning of the Commission's decision.
The Commissioners thanked Mayor Burd and Alderman Allen for attending the meeting
and Chairman Lucietto said in the event of a future voting disparity such as this, an
explanation will be given to the Commission.
In other matters, Chairman Lucietto noted the first Kendall County Planning Consortium
was held September 18 with "water" being the topic. Oswego will host the next
meeting on November 20 at 7pm at the new City Hall. The discussion will be "green ".
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Chairman Lucietto also suggested "windmills" as a possible future topic. Mayor Burd
said Oswego had approached the City about a possible windmill farm.
Alderman Allen said there would be a Ward I meeting on October 23 at 6:30am at
Southern Belle Pancake House.
There was no further business and the meeting was adjourned at 7:43pm on a motion by
Adams and second by Holdiman. Approved on a voice vote.
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REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS taken at the
meeting of the Yorkville Plan Commission for the
United City of Yorkville, taken on October 8,
2008, at the hour of 7:00 p.m., before Lynette J.
Neal, C.S.R., at 800 Game Farm Road, Yorkville,
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1 PRESENT:
2 MS. ANNE LUCIETTO, Chairman,
3 MR. JEFF BAKER,
4 MR. MICHAEL CROUCH,
5 MR. CHARLES KRAUPNER,
6 MR. TOM LINDBLOM,
7 MR. TRAVIS MILLER,
8 MS. SANDRA ADAMS,
9 MR. CLARENCE HOLDIMAN,
10 MS. MARLYS YOUNG.
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4 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Do I have a motion
07:OOPM 5 to open PC 2008 -22, G.B. Illinois 2?
6 MR. BAKER: So moved, Baker.
7 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second.
8 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: So now we are in
9 PC 2008 -22. Again, we are responding to a letter
07:OOPM 10 that was sent to us from the attorneys for this
11 project dated October 7th, 2008 that was addressed
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13 MR. MILLER: They have requested to
14 continue this to November 12th, 2008.
07:01PM 15 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: I need to have a --
16 we need to have a motion that includes continuing
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18 MR. LINDBLOM: Don't we need to vote on
19 the motion to go to public hearing?
07:OiPM 20 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: I thought I did
21 that. Okay. All in favor of opening the public
22 hearing say aye?
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24 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Not in favor, nay?
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2 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Based on the
3 discussion we just had regarding the letter from
4 the attorneys for the project, they ask that we
07:01PM 5 postpone the public hearing to the November 12th,
6 2008 plan commission meeting. Do I have a motion?
7 MR. CROUCH: Do you want a motion to
8 postpone or continue?
9 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: To continue.
07:01PM 10 MR. CROUCH: I move to continue the
11 hearing on PC 2008 -22 to November 12th, 2008.
12 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Per the petitioner's
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14 MR. CROUCH: Yes.
07:01PM 15 MR. HOLDIMAN : So moved.
16 MR. BAKER: Second.
17 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Do roll call on that
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19 MS. YOUNG: Kraupner?
07:02PM 20 MR. KRAUPNER: Yes.
21 MS. YOUNG: Adams?
22 MS. ADAMS: Yes.
23 MS. YOUNG: Baker?
24 MR. BAKER: Yes.
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1 MS. YOUNG: Lindblom?
2 MR. LINDBLOM: Yes.
3 MS. YOUNG: Holdiman?
4 MR. HOLDIMAN: Yes.
07:02PM 5 MS. YOUNG: Lucietto?
6 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Yes.
7 PC 2008 -22 will be continued to the
8 November 12th meeting. Do we have a motion to
9 close the public hearing?
07 : 02PM 10 MR. CROUCH: I move to close t he public
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12 MR. LINDBLOM: Second.
13 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: That's it.
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