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Plan Commission Minutes 2007 10-10-07 it Page 1 of 6 Approved 11/14/07 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILL E PLAN COMMISSION YORKVILLE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:00pm Chairman Anne Lucietto called the meeting to order at 7:03pm. Roll Call: Members present John Hegeler, Sandra Adams, Tom Lindblom, Jeff Baker, Mike Crouch, Charles Kraupner, Clarence Holdiman, Anne Lucietto Absent: Jack Jones, Brian Schillinger i A quorum was established Citv Staff And Visitors: Travis Miller - Community Development Director, Dan Kramer- Attorney, John Roesch, Samantha Duda, Eric Saunders, Tom Gilmour, Chris Lindley - Christopher Burke Engineering, Tony Zangler, Tom O'Brien- Thomas Alarm Systems, Matt Schury- Kendall County Record, Jason Pesola, Mike Frick, Julie Polhill, Roxane Griesmann, Ken Griesmann, Gregg Ingemunson- Attorney, William Dunn - Engineering Enterprises, Christine Vitosh -Court Reporter, Mike Bollweg Minutes: September 12, 2007 Lindblom made a motion to approve the minutes as presented and Baker seconded the motion. Passed unanimously on a voice vote. Public Hearings: Chairman Lucietto entertained a motion to enter into Public Hearing. Holdiman and Adams moved and seconded to enter into the Hearings and this motion passed unanimously on a voice vote. Lucietto asked all who wished to speak to be sworn in as a group. 1. PC 2007 -30 Roger and Betty Jensen. The petitioners requested a continuance to November 14, 2007. Crouch and Lindblom moved and seconded to continue this hearing. The motion passed by a voice vote with all in favor. 2. PC 2007 -23, Anthony and Nicole Zangler, petitioners, have filed an application with the United City of Yorkville, Kendall County, Illnois, requesting annexation to the United City of Yorkville and zoning to the United City of Yorkville R -1 One Family Residence District. The real property consists of approximately 5.7 acres, located at 96 Quinsey Lane, Bristol Township, Kendall County Illinois. Page 2 of 6 The Plan Council has recommended annexation and the petitioner wishes to build one house on this property. Attorney Ingemunson added that there are some easement issues. Chairman Lucietto asked for public comments: Julie Polhill She lives next to the property and expressed concern about the possible bike path. Samantha Duda, 402 Johnson St. She said there is a garbage dumpster on Quinsey Lane for people who live along the river. She asked if the dumpster could be moved east. She also inquired if the driveway would be an access for several homes or just the Zangler's. Ken Griesmann He is the present owner of the property and said he did not feel it was right for the Zanglers to relinquish so many easements on that small of a property. He spoke against the pathway and additional easements. Mike Bollwea He owns property on the east side of the petitioners and also is not in favor of the bike path, however, he is in favor of the possible sewer and water easement. Mike Frick He lives west of the property and spoke out against the bike path and said taxes are high enough. John Roesch, 98 Quinsey Lane He asked if the remaining properties along Quinsey Lane would be annexed if this annexation is approved. There were no further comments and the Public Hearing was closed on a motion by Baker and second by Hegeler. Unanimous approval of motion by voice vote. Travis Miller reviewed staff comments. He first stated that the City is not seeking to annex the remaining property on Quinsey Lane and he noted that Quinsey Lane is a private road. There is a possibility of future sewer hookups, however. The property being discussed automatically becomes R -1 zoning with annexation and staff recommended three easements to be dedicated: utility easement, extension of sanitary sewer easement and trail easement. The trail would connect to the Heartland development. He said staff has recommended that Quinsey Lane remain private. Kraupner noted that Heartland has planned street stubs into the Quinsey Lane area. The Zanglers do not plan to subdivide their property and therefore there would not be a need for a connection. Page 3 of 6 It was noted that the Zanglers are also opposed to a bike path, but would be OK with a sewer pipe being installed if it was done at the time of their home construction. The Commission members generally agreed they would not want a bike path there, however, they agreed that a sewer pipe installation and utility easement would make good sense at the time of construction. Action Items 1. Annexation Tom Lindblom made a motion to recommend approval of the annexation as presented, omitting the bike path. Jeff Baker seconded the motion and the motion carried on a roll call vote: Adams -aye, Baker -aye, Hegeler -aye, Lindblom -aye, Holdiman-aye, Crouch - aye, Kraupner -nay, Lucietto -aye. 3. PC 2007 -32, Thomas O'Brien, Thomas Alarm System, petitioner, has filed an application with the United City of Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting rezoning from R -2 One - Family Resident District to the United City of Yorkville B -3 Service Business District. The real property commonly known as Lot 1 of the North Bridge Street Subdivision, consists of approximately 0.2 acres, located at 711 North Bridge Street, United City of Yorkville, Kendall County Illinois. Ms. Lucietto entertained a motion to enter into Public Hearing for the above. It was moved and seconded by Crouch and Lindblom respectively, to enter into Public Hearing PC 2007 -32. Unanimous approval. Mr. Thomas O'Brien, 711 N. Bridge, asked for zoning from residential R -2 to business B -3 on this property in order to operate his business. It is located on the west side of Somonauk and Appletree. There was no comment and a motion was made by Lindblom and seconded by Crouch to close the Hearing. Motion approved unanimously. Action Item 1. Rezoning There was no discussion regarding this request and a motion was made by Crouch to approve the zoning to B -3. Hegeler seconded the motion and it was approved by all on a roll call vote: Baker -aye, Hegeler -aye, Lindblom -aye, Holdiman-aye, Crouch -aye, Kraupner -aye, Adams -aye, Lucietto -aye. 4. PC 2007 -33, Virginia Welles, petitioner, has filed an application with the United City of Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting zoning to the United City Page 4 of 6 of Yorkville R -1 One Family Residence District. The real property consists of approximately 250.65 acres, located at 13873 Walker Road, Fox Township, Kendall County Illinois. It was moved and seconded by Baker and Crouch to enter into Public Hearing PC 2007 -33. A voice vote unanimously approved this motion. Attorney Dan Kramer was present on behalf of the petitioner. He said this property had been annexed the previous night at the City Council meeting. This property is in the midst of agricultural property and is off Hollonback and Walker Roads. He asked for a recommendation of "estate zoning". He added that property owner, Virginia Welles g p P Y g takes great pride in the fact that her ancestors were the first white settlers in the county and she does not want the property developed. This is the reason for the zoning request. There was no further comment and a motion was made by Crouch and seconded by Adams to close the Public Hearing. Unanimous approval on a voice vote. It was noted that this property shares boundaries on three sides, with the formerly proposed Fox Moraine property. Travis Miller suggested that the Findings of Fact should be considered when making the decision on the zoning. Chairman Lucietto briefly reviewed this. Attorney Kramer noted there are 5 or 6 properties zoned "estate" near the Welles property. After brief discussion, Baker moved and Hegeler seconded to recommend estate zoning as requested. Motion passed unanimously on a roll call vote: Baker -aye, Hegeler -aye, Lindblom -aye, Holdiman-aye, Crouch -aye, Kraupner -aye, Adams -aye, Lucietto -aye. New Business 1. PC 2007 -25, The Fields at Westhaven Action Items: 1. Preliminary Plan Trevor Ryan of Marquette Land represents the owners of the property purchased in 2005 and is near Baseline Road. At that time, there was a PUD and it was amended in 2006. The 161 -acre residential portion is at the northwest part of the site. A Land Vision representative showed a preliminary plan of the 164 -acre site. They have been working with Plan Council, staff, the school and parks regarding the site. The development will include 261 lots with average lot size of 13,435 square foot and a gross density of 1.6. Baseline Road is the main north -side collector road. Page 5 of 6 Concern included having a major collector so close to a school. Concerns from Lindblom included 22 lots being inaccessible due to a 1 -way in/1 -way out and two streets called Keystone. Chairman Lucietto agreed and said the Plan Commission always favors two ways in/out. Also, much traffic would be added to the Rt. 30/47/Baseline Road area and improvements would be needed. Mr. Ryan said the Beecher Road extension would ease some of that. Travis Miller offered comments from the staff report and some of those are as follows. He said if this development precedes Bailey Meadows, timing would be an issue in regards to infrastructure, water etc . The city does allow for recapture and front -fund agreements. He also noted that the 15 acre land cash donation is above the required amount. In addition, the area south of the Corn Ed easement is age- restricted and the property will not be a burden on the school system. He recommended that the preliminary plan move forward with a further delineation of the boundaries of the school /park site. Bill Dunn of EEI told the developer that a watermain will go through the school /park site and said no building can be built in that area. Commission member Hegeler asked about widening of Rt. 47 since many collector roads will empty onto it. Funding is the problem at this time. In conjunction with that question, Miller noted that two commercial developments planned along Rt. 47 would require two points of access and an IDOT permit is required. Miller also said that the developer agreed to pay for a portion of Rt. 47 improvements in their agreement. no further discussion and Lindblom made a motion to There was approve this development subject to staff concerns and the following points: landlocking and the collector road. Hegeler seconded the motion. A roll call vote was taken: Lindblom -aye, Holdiman-aye, Crouch -aye, Kraupner -aye, Adams -aye, Baker -aye, Hegeler -aye, Lucietto -aye. Motion passed unanimously. Additional Business: A 2008 tentative meeting schedule was handed out for review. Chairman Lucietto summarized the recent consortium meeting that she and Sandra Adams attended. IDOT and Fran Klaas attended and addressed questions regarding area roads. November 15` is the next meeting date and the topic will be preserving the rural nature. In January, historic preservation will be discussed. Information from the meetings is posted on the City website Page 6 of 6 Travis Miller reviewed the Comp Plan Steering Committee. He would like to meet once a month beginning in November. He expects it will be a 2 -hour meeting. Information will be given out for the future meetings regarding structure and topics. He would like to schedule two open houses for the public to attend. Chairman Lucietto suggested asking each Alderman to recommend one person from their ward to be part of the committee also and she will present this idea at the November 13 Council meeting. Ms. Lucietto said there will also be a webpage regarding this committee. She said Platteville has invited her to explain how the Plan Commission works and she would like all Plan Commission members to attend. She also handed out name tags for all commission members for these upcoming meetings. Discussion turned to the boundary agreement between Yorkville and Montgomery. Miller reported that the two staffs have met and drafted an agreement. Council has discussed it and they also asked for Plan Commission input. Documents will be in the packets for next month's meeting. Miller presented a map that showed the boundaries. Lindblom asked if residents along Galena Road would have input as to what town they would belong. He also asked about the Willowbrook subdivision and noted that those residents have more connection with Yorkville largely due to the schools. He said those people should have input into any decision. Miller said public notices would be posted and they would have a chance to attend meetings. Lucietto suggested discussions should be held with the residents. The Storybook subdivision was also included in this discussion. Crouch concurred with this opinion and said he felt Yorkville would not forcibly annex this area. However, he did not know about Montgomery. He felt those residents would be upset if forcibly annexed where they did not want to be. There will be further discussions next month. Hegeler inquired if Yorkville had any plans for a Yorkville train station since it would ease traffic. It is included on the comp plan on the east side of Yorkville. A comparison was made to Oswego who has a park `n ride, however, there is no train station there. Metra would ultimately decide where a station would be located. There was no further discussion and a motion was made by Crouch to adjourn the meeting. Hegeler seconded the motion and it carried unanimously on a voice vote at 8:54pm. Minutes respectfully submitted by Marlys Young, Minute Taker i PLAN COMMISSION MEETING UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE, ILLINOIS REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS had at the meeting of the above - entitled matter taken before CHRISTINE M. VITOSH, C.S.R., on October 10, 2007, at the hour of 7:00 p.m., at 800 Game Farm Road, in the City of Yorkville, Illinois. REPO • COURT reporting service 1212 South Naper Boulevard • Suite 119 -185 • Naperville, IL 60540 • 630 - 983 -0030 • Fax 630 - 299 -5153 www.depocourt.com 2 1 P R E S E N T: 2 MS. ANNE LUCIETTO, Chairman; 3 MR. TOM LINDBLOM; 4 MR. CLARENCE HOLDIMAN; 5 MS. SANDRA ADAMS; 6 MR. CHARLES KRAUPNER; 7 MR. MICHAEL CROUCH; 8 MR. JEFF BAKER; 9 MR. JOHN HEGELER; 10 MR. TRAVIS MILLER; 11 MS. MARLYS YOUNG. 12 13 - - - - - 14 15 16 i 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 I Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 3 1 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: I need a motion 2 to move into public hearing. 3 MR. HOLDIMAN: Moved. 4 MS. ADAMS: Second. 5 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Moved and 6 seconded. All in favor say aye. 7 (A Chorus of Ayes) 8 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor, 9 nay. 10 (No Response) 11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: We are currently 12 in public hearing. Now I'm going to ask anyone 13 that is going to speak to please stand up and 14 raise your right hand. 15 (Witnesses sworn) 16 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Our first public 17 hearing is PC 2007 -30, Roger and Betty Jensen. I 18 am told that the petitioner has requested that it 19 be continued again to November 14. We continued 20 this from last month. Do we need a motion to 21 continue it? Yes. Okay. 22 Do we have a motion to 23 continue? 24 MR. CROUCH: So moved. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 4 1 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Mike. I 2 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second. 3 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor say 4 aye. 5 (A Chorus of Ayes) 6 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Not in favor, 7 nay. 8 (No Response) 9 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. We will 10 move on then, and that will be continued to the 11 November 14th, 2007 meeting. 12 The next item in the public 13 hearings is PC 2007 -23, Anthony and Nicole 14 Zangler. 15 WHEREUPON: 16 GREGG INGEMUNSON, 17 having been first duly sworn, testified before 18 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 19 MR. INGEMUNSON: Hi. 20 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Hi. 21 MR. INGEMUNSON: Do you guys have 22 copies of -- There should be a couple -- plat of 23 topography and a plat of annexation, one of each. 24 MR. HOLDIMAN: Gregg -- Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 i 5 1 MR. INGEMUNSON: Okay. That's the 2 newest version, that's -- 3 MR. HOLDIMAN: The plat, but it 4 shows the location. 5 MR. INGEMUNSON: Well, to give you a 6 little background, we came through I think on a 7 mile and a half review -- I don't know, did we go 8 through this, Travis, with the Plan Commission -- 9 MR. MILLER: No. 10 MR. INGEMUNSON: We didn't make it 11 that far. What happened is we went to Plan 12 Council and they recommended annexation, so we 13 came back through and said okay, if the City 14 wants to annex, then we will be happy to do that, 15 so we are in here requesting annexation. 16 It's about 5.7 acres on Quincy 17 Lane just east of Woodworth Estates, and we're 18 really just requesting annexation and then 19 default zoning to Rl where we would build one 20 house. 21 Travis and I have spoken 22 about -- One additional reason we didn't want to 23 annex was because of the cost to hook up to the 24 sewer, which would have been 7 -- 6 or $7,000 an Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 6 1 acre, and with the five acres, we are looking at 2 rather costly. 3 So Travis has had some 4 conversations with Ralph, and I have not yet, but 5 I am going to. We're going to try to limit one 6 acre into annexation into YBSD to keep that cost 7 down, and, of course, there will be no other 8 buildings or permits issued on this property, so 9 we would only be building one house on here on 10 approximately 5.7 acres, so we would request 11 annexation to be able to actually accomplish 12 that, and we've had some discussions with the 13 City, and there is some easement issues we've 14 talked about. I'm sure Travis will go into that 15 a little bit, but at this point, I'll request a 16 positive recommendation on annexation to the 17 City. 18 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Now, if 19 anyone has any comments from the public, this is 20 your time to voice them. 21 What I'm going to ask, if you 22 would come up to the microphone, state your name 23 and where you live, and then clearly state what 24 your issue or question is. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 I 7 1 WHEREUPON: 2 JULIE POLHILL, 3 having been first duly sworn, testified before 4 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 5 MS. POLHILL: Okay. I'm Julie 6 Polhill. I live in Woodworth Estates, which is 7 directly next to his client, and some neighbors i 8 and I had some questions because we heard that i 9 there was a possible bike path, which we are not 10 at all interested in on that easement, and I was 11 wondering if that was going to be a possibility 12 or what we could do to protest the bike path. 13 MR. INGEMUNSON: Well, we don't want 14 it either, so we're happy they don't want it 15 because we don't want it, so as much as they can 16 protest, we are happy about that. 17 MR. HOLDIMAN: Gregg, does two 18 negatives make a positive? 19 MS. POLHILL: It's a positive if it 20 works in our favor. 21 MR. INGEMUNSON: Exactly. I like it 22 when people come up and speak on things that are 23 on our behalf. I 24 MS. POLHILL: Yes, we would love Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 1 them as neighbors without a bike path. 2 MR. INGEMUNSON: Which we would love 3 to be neighbors without a bike path. 4 MS. POLHILL: I'm just wondering if 5 you could shed some light on what the City is 6 planning. 7 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: You know what, 8 we usually have a really big discussion 9 afterwards. We try to get all the facts together 10 at the public hearings. We are going to go 11 through all the public hearings and then we're 12 going to talk about it, and then at that point we 13 can answer questions, and if you have more 14 questions that come from that, we can answer 15 then. 16 MS. POLHILL: Okay. Great. 17 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Great. 18 WHEREUPON: 19 SAMANTHA DUDA, 20 having been first duly sworn, testified before 21 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 22 MS. DUDA: My name is Samantha Duda. 23 I live at 402 Johnson Street. Behind our house 24 on Quincy Drive there is a garbage dumpster for Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 9 1 the houses that are along the river, so we were 2 wondering if anything is going to be done about 3 that because that technically will be those 4 people's driveway when they -- if they were to 5 move in there. We don't want the garbage 6 dumpster there either. 7 And then the path -- actually 8 Quincy Lane, if that was going to be their 9 driveway, is that going to be access to all the 10 other people that live on the river or are they 11 going to build a different access off of Tuma. i 12 We heard rumors about there was 13 going to be a different access off of Tuma for 14 the houses along the river and this was going to 15 be access only for the people moving in. 16 MR. INGEMUNSON: The access is going 17 to remain the same. There is no change for the 18 access. It will be the access for the people, 19 for them, and on the river. 20 As far as the dumpster, I think 21 they are trying to move that. 22 MR. ZANGLER: We are trying to move 23 that to the east. 24 MR. INGEMUNSON: East end. Because Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 10 1 they don't like that dumpster where its at. 2 MS. DUDA: Right. 3 MR. INGEMUNSON: And they are 4 looking to move that on the east end of the 5 property, is that right, Tony? 6 MR. ZANGLER: Yes. 7 MR. INGEMUNSON: When I said eastern 8 side -- the dumpster is on the western side. i 9 MS. DUDA: Okay. Of the street. So i 10 they're just going to move it -- 11 MR. INGEMUNSON: No, no, all the way 12 down the lane. Where it curves all the way down 13 to the end. 14 MS. DUDA: Okay. i 15 MR. INGEMUNSON: Not just across the 16 little section of the street, all the way down to 17 the western edge. Is that right? 18 MR. ZANGLER: Eastern side. 19 MR. INGEMUNSON: Eastern side of the 20 property, so 300 feet away approximately. 21 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: That answers 22 your question? 23 MS. DUDA: Yes. 24 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Great. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 11 1 Thank you. 2 WHEREUPON: 3 KEN GRIESMAN, 4 having been first duly sworn, testified before 5 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 6 MR. GRIESMAN: My name is Ken 7 Griesman (phonetic). My wife and I are the 8 present owners of the land to be rezoned. We 9 don't feel it's right of you to expect the buyers 10 to give up so many easements on this small five 11 and three quarter acre property. 12 If the Zanglers were 13 subdivision developers, we could understand 14 requiring them to put in a pathway and full 15 subdivision, but the Zanglers are not developers. 16 They are a family and they want to build one 17 home. 18 The buildable portion of this 19 property is not that large. The southern section 20 along the river is floodplain and there are 21 already two easements on the property. There is 22 a 30 foot by 765 foot easement on the westerly 23 side and a 16 foot easement exists along the 24 northerly end. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 12 I 1 You are asking for more 2 easements that will further divide this property. 3 We understand that sometime in the future a 4 sanitary sewer line needs to be provided. We are 5 not opposed to this improvement, but the work 6 needs to be completed now. The sanitary sewer 7 line should be located in an area agreeable to 8 both the City and the Zanglers. 9 There are not many pieces of 10 land like this left in Yorkville. It's quiet, 11 tree covered, secluded, and peaceful, a perfect 12 place to put up a large, beautiful home and raise 13 a family. 14 We are opposed to the pathway 15 from Heartland Circle to our property. The 16 homeowners next to the proposed pathway are also 17 opposed. We do not know of any other subdivision 18 in the City that has a pathway from their 19 property to the river. 20 Safe access from this same 21 riverside area is already available by sidewalks 22 on Bruell Street. It seems unnecessary to add 23 expense to the taxpayers for something that 24 already exists. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 13 1 In conclusion, we hope that you 2 will reconsider your position on requiring the I 3 Zanglers to grant these additional easements and 4 abandon your plans for a pathway through this 5 land. 6 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Thank you. Is 7 there anyone else? Need you to tell us your name 8 verbally, too. 9 WHEREUPON: 10 MIKE POHLWEG, 11 having been first duly sworn, testified before 12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 13 MR. POHLWEG: One second. I'm 14 sorry. My name is Mike Pohlweg. I own the 15 property adjacent on -- excuse me, on the east 16 side of the lot in question for rezoning, and, 17 once again, I am not in favor of this bike path 18 because I have no idea where its path is going to 19 connect to the north and how it's going to tie 20 into the Heartland subdivision because that's 21 only -- that's a very narrow lane there and it's 22 the real easement for getting in and out of the 23 Quincy Lane subdivision and my property, so once 24 again, I know the City's evidently in favor of Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 14 1 this bike path, but it's nothing that I would be 2 in favor of or of any residents that I know of on 3 Quincy Lane. 4 Also, the sewer and water 5 potential easement that's heading east to my 6 property, I am in favor of that, and I think 7 would be a good idea for future potential 8 development if that happens someday. 9 I am in favor of that, but not 10 the bike path, so that's all I can say. 11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Thank you. Is 12 there anyone else? 13 WHEREUPON: 14 MIKE FRICK, 15 having been first duly sworn, testified before 16 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 17 MR. FRICK: My name is Mike Frick 18 and I live west of the properties along the 19 easement, and I don't want a bike path simply 20 because I don't want to pay for it, I feel my 21 taxes are high enough, and that's really my 22 major -- my major concern is taxes are high 23 enough. Thank you. 24 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Thank you. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 15 1 Anyone else? 2 WHEREUPON: 3 JOHN ROESCH, 4 having been first duly sworn, testified before 5 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: I 6 MR. ROESCH: My name is John Roesch. 7 I own the property at 98 Quincy Lane. I have no 8 problem with the rezoning of this acreage. 9 I have a question as to in the 10 future if this -- if this annexation goes 11 through, the status of the remaining properties 12 along the lane. Does that mean that the City of 13 Yorkville would be looking towards annexation of 14 the remaining properties? That's the question. 15 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Thank you. 16 Anyone else? 17 (No Response) 18 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. When we 19 close the public hearing, we will come back and 20 discuss this as a committee, and then at that 21 point we usually -- if there is extra questions 22 or whatever, we do entertain them. 23 MR. HOLDIMAN: Haven't we gone out 24 of public hearings to deal with this issue one at Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 16 1 a time? 2 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Yes, but with 3 the length, I thought we would do it once. 4 MR. HOLDIMAN: Okay, due to the 5 number of people there for this -- it's your 6 call. 7 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: That's fine. 8 I'll entertain a motion to close the public 9 hearing. 10 MR. BAKER: So moved, Baker. 11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Is there a 12 second? 13 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second. 14 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor say 15 aye. 16 (A Chorus of Ayes) 17 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Not in favor, 18 say nay. 19 (No Response) 20 (discussion had off 21 the record) 22 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Entertain a 23 motion to open the public hearing for PC 2007 -32, 24 Thomas O'Brien, Thomas Alarm System. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 17 I 1 MR. CROUCH: So moved. 2 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second. 3 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor? 4 (A Chorus of Ayes) 5 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Not in favor? 6 (No Response) 7 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Who is speaking I 8 on behalf of Thomas O'Brien? 9 WHEREUPON: I 10 THOMAS O'BRIEN, 11 having been first duly sworn, testified before 12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 13 MR. O'BRIEN: Yes. I am Tom 14 O'Brien, 711 North Bridge. 15 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Do you want to 16 tell us a little bit about what you are trying to 17 do? 18 MR. O'BRIEN: I am changing the 19 zoning from residential to business. 20 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: And your 21 property is located where? 22 MR. O'BRIEN: 711 North Bridge. 23 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: So that's on 47? 24 MR. O'BRIEN: Correct. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 18 1 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Can you describe 2 the area just so that everybody can picture it? 3 MR. O'BRIEN: Between Somonauk and 4 Apple Tree on the west side of the road. 5 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. So you 6 want to go from R2 One- Family Business District 7 to B3 Service Business District so you can 8 operate your business there? 9 MR. O'BRIEN: Correct. I already 10 have been. 11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Did you have any 12 other comments or was that it? 13 MR. O'BRIEN: No. 14 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: That was pretty 15 much it? Okay. So that we can have further 16 discussion, I entertain a motion to close the 17 public hearing. 18 MR. HOLDIMAN: So moved. 19 MR. BAKER: Second. 20 MR. KRAUPNER: Did you ask for the 21 public? 22 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Oh. Is there 23 anyone here that wants to speak on this one? 24 (No Response) Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 19 i 1 (discussion had off 2 the record) 3 CHAIRMAN'LUCIETTO: Entertain a 4 motion for PC 2007 -33, Virginia Welles. 5 MR. CROUCH: So moved. 6 MR. BAKER: So moved. 7 MR. CROUCH: Second. 8 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Thank 9 you. All in favor say aye. 10 (A Chorus of Ayes) 11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Not in favor? 12 (No Response) 13 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: We are in public 14 hearing. 15 WHEREUPON: 16 DANIEL J. KRAMER, 17 having been first duly sworn, testified before 18 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 19 MR. KRAMER: Good evening. My name 20 is Daniel J. Kramer. My address is 1107A South 21 Bridge Street, Yorkville, Illinois, 60560. I am 22 an attorney licensed to practice law in the State 23 of Illinois and represent Virginia Welles. 24 This matter is up before you Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 20 1 tonight, and some of you may think this might be I 2 a bit the cart before the horse. I 3 We actually annexed this 4 property to the City of Yorkville last evening at I 5 the Council meeting. You haven't seen it a lot i I 6 over the years, but if a property owner is I 7 willing to annex property and go automatically to 8 the default zoning classification and if there 9 isn't a written annexation agreement that the 10 developer or owner wants something special or the 11 City wants something special, the City can simply 12 do that without public hearing, and so the 13 annexation ordinance has I hope been signed by 14 today, but it was unanimously approved by the 15 City Council last night. 16 To get zoning other than the 17 default zoning, we need to do the public hearing 18 in front of the Plan Commission, and actually we 19 filed this petition asking for the default 20 zoning, which is R1 Single Family. 21 Frankly, the area we're in, out 22 off of Route 71, Hollenbeck Road and Walker Road, 23 is very agriculturally based at this time, and we 24 had discussions with your City Community Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 I 21 1 Development Director about perhaps not going to 2 default zoning. 3 A little bit of 4 statutory history; it used to be pretty much all 5 the time that your R1 would be the default or the 6 most restrictive zoning in any community. You 7 actually have two categories that I would 8 consider less dense or more restrictive; that 9 being estate, and you also have an ag zoning. 10 We feel that the estate zoning 11 would be perfectly appropriate for this property, 12 and we would be satisfied if you gave a 13 recommendation to the City Council to zone it 14 estate zoning, and as long as we publish for a 15 more dense or a more intense use than R1, you do 16 have the legal ability to recommend anything more 17 restrictive or lower, even estate or ag. 18 Frankly, we would like the 19 estate zoning rather than agricultural. 20 Mrs. Welles is a young lady of 88 and she has no 21 plans on developing the property during her 22 lifetime. 23 Louie Thurow during some of the 24 other hearings that went on in the city takes Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 22 1 great pride in saying that her forebearers were 2 the first white settlers in Kendall County, 3 Illinois, so she would prefer not to see the 4 property develop, but we don't know generations 5 down the road, so we think locking it in as 6 estate zoning helps you as a city for future 7 growth out there, sets a tone for nice, big lots 8 if it ever is developed, but we have no intention 9 of doing that for a good long time. 10 So that's our comments, and we 11 would ask for a positive recommendation as to 12 estate zoning. 13 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Is there 14 anyone here that wishes to ask questions? 15 MR. HOLDIMAN: I've got just a point 16 of clarification. Dan, on the different maps 17 that we received, the one that you have displayed 18 up there shows the corner of the property going 19 right up to Route 71; this colored map right here 20 does not show that same thing. 21 MR. MILLER: I can speak to that. 22 The colored maps were prepared by staff and 23 they're not correct. That's correct. If you 24 note, it says approximate location. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 23 1 MR. HOLDIMAN: Put an X maybe? 2 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: We'll take that 3 more up in detail when we are out of public I 4 hearing. 5 MR. KRAMER: Nicely done, 6 Mr. Miller. 7 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: There is 8 apparently no one else that wishes to speak for 9 this one, so I'll ask -- I 10 MR. CROUCH: Move to close the 11 public hearing. I 12 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Is there a I 13 second? 14 MS. ADAMS: Second. i 15 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor? 16 (A Chorus of Ayes) 17 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Nay? 18 (No response) 19 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: We are out of 20 public hearing. 21 (Which were all the 22 proceedings had in 23 public hearing.) 24 --- 000 - -- Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 24 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS ) SS: 2 COUNTY OF LASALLE ) 3 4 I, Christine M. Vitosh, a Certified 5 Shorthand Reporter, do hereby certify that I 6 reported in shorthand the proceedings had at the 7 hearing of the above - entitled cause and that the 8 foregoing Report of Proceedings, is a true, 9 correct, and complete transcript of my shorthand 10 notes so taken at the time and place aforesaid. 11 I further certify that I am neither 12 counsel for nor related to counsel for any of the 13 parties to this suit, nor am I in any way related 14 to any of the parties to this suit, nor am I in 15 any way interested in the outcome thereof. 16 I further certify that my i 17 certificate annexed hereto applies to the i 18 original transcript and copies thereof, signed 19 and certified under my hand only. I assume no 20 responsibility for the accuracy of any reproduced 21 copies not made under my control or direction. 22 23 24 Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 I 25 1 In testimony whereof, I have 2 he eu to set my hand this __1 �__1---- day of 3 A.D., 2007. 4 5 - & - AL& I 6 Christine M. Vitosh, CSR 7 CSR No. 084 - 002883 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 De o Court Rep orting Service 630 983 -0030 Plan Commission October 10, 2007 26 $7,000 5:24, 5:24 add 12:22 back 5:13, 15:19 6:13, 6:17, 8:5, 12:8, --- oOo - -- 23:24 additional 5:22, 13:3 background 5:6 12:18, 13:24, 15:12, 084 - 002883 25:7 address 19:20 BAKER 2:8, 16:10, 20:4, 20:11, 20:11, 1107A 19:20 adjacent 13:15 16:10, 18:19, 19:6 20:15, 20:24, 21:13, 14 3:19 aforesaid 24:11 based 20:23 21:24, 22:6 14th 4:11 afterwards 8:9 beautiful 12:12 CLARENCE 2:4 16 11:23 ag 21:9, 21:17 behalf 7:23, 17:8 clarification 22:16 2007 4:11 agreeable 12:7 Behind 8:23 classification 20:8 2007 -2 4:13 agreement 20:9 Betty 3:17 clearly 6:23 2007 -3 3:17, 16:23, agricultural 21:19 big 8:8, 22:7 client 7:7 19:4 agriculturally 20:23 bike 7:9, 7:12, 8:1, close 15:19, 16:8, 2007. 25:3 Alarm 16:24 8:3, 13:17, 14:1, 18:16, 23:10 30 11:22 already 11:21, 12:21, 14:10, 14:19 colored 22:19, 22:22 300 10:20 12:24, 18:9 bit 6:15, 17:16, 20:2, comments 6:19, 402 8:23 ANNE 2:2 21:3 18:12, 22:10 47 17:23 annex 5:14, 5:23, Bridge 17:14, 17:22, Commission 1:3, 5.7 5:16, 6:10 20:7 19:21 4:18, 5:8, 7:4, 8:21, 6 5:24 annexation 4:23, Bruell 12:22 11:5, 13:12, 14:16, 60560 19:21 5:12, 5:15, 5:18, 6:6, build 5:19, 9:11, 15:5, 17:12, 19:18, 7 5:24, 20:22 6:11, 6:16, 15:10, 11:16 20:18 71 22:19 15:13, 20:9, 20:13 buildable 11:18 committee 15:20 711 17:14, 17:22 annexed 20:3, 24:18 building 6:9 Community 20:24, 765 11:22 answer 8:13, 8:14 buildings 6:8 21:6 7:00 1:11, 1:11 answers 10:21 Business 17:19, complete 24:10 800 1:11 Anthony 4:13 18:6, 18:7, 18:8 completed 12:6 88 21:20 apparently 23:8 buyers 11:9 concern 14:22 98 15:7 Apple 18:4 conclusion 13:1 applies 24:18 connect 13:19 appropriate 21:11 < C > consider 21:8 <A> approved 20:14 C.S.R. 1:10 continue 3:21, 3:23 abandon 13:4 approximate 22:24 call 16:6 continued 3:19, ability 21:16 approximately 6:10, cart 20:2 3:19, 4:10 able 6:11 10:20 categories 21:7 control 24:22 above- entitled 1:9, area 12:7, 12:21, cause 24:8 conversations 6:4 24:8 18:2, 20:21 certificate 24:18 copies 4:22, 24:19, access 9:9, 9:11, assume 24:20 Certified 24:5, 24:20 24:22 9:13, 9:15, 9:16, attorney 19:22 certify 24:6, 24:12, corner 22:18 9:18, 9:18, 12:20 automatically 20:7 24:17 Correct 17:24, 18:9, accomplish 6:11 available 12:21 change 9:17 22:23, 22:23, 24:10 accuracy 24:21 away 10:20 changing 17:18 cost 5:23, 6:6 acre 6:1, 6:6, 11:11 aye 3:6, 4:4, 16:15, CHARLES 2:6 costly 6:2 acreage 15:8 19:9 Chorus 3:7, 4:5, Council 5:12, 20:5, acres 5:16, 6:1, 6:10 Ayes 3:7, 4:5, 16:16, 16:16, 17:4, 19:10, 20:15, 21:13 across 10:15 17:4, 19:10, 23:16 23:16 counsel 24:13, actually 6:11, 9:7, Christine 1:10, 24:5, 24:13 20:3, 20:18, 21:7 25:6 COUNTY 22:2, 24:3 ADAMS 2:5, 3:4, < B > Circle 12:15 couple 4:22 23:14 B3 18:7 City 1:4, 1:12, 5:13, course 6:7 Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Plan Commission October 10, 2007 27 covered 12:11 8:22, 10:2, 10:9, 20:20 7:17 CROUCH 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evidently 13:24 15:23, 16:4, 16:13, 20:24 Exactly 7:21 < G > 17:2, 18:18, 22:15, displayed 22:17 excuse 13:15 Game 1:11 23:1 District 18:6, 18:7 exists 11:23, 12:24 garbage 8:24, 9:5 Hollenbeck 20:22 divide 12:2 expect 11:9 gave 21:12 home 11:17,12:12 doing 22:9 expense 12:23 generations 22:4 homeowners 12:16 done 9:2, 23:5 extra 15:21 getting 13:22 hook 5:23 down 6:7,10:12, give 5:5, 11:10 hope 13:1, 20:13 10:12, 10:16, 22:5 grant 13:3 horse 20 :2 Drive 8:24 < F > Great 8:16, 8:17, hour 1:11 driveway 9:4, 9:9 facts 8:9 10:24, 22:1 house 5:20, 6:9, DUDA 8:19, 8:22, Family 11:16, 12:13, Gregg 4:16, 4:24, 8:23 Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Plan Commission October 10, 2007 28 houses 9:1, 9:14 13:5 13:14, 14:14, 14:17 note 22:24 Lane 5:17, 9:8, mile 5:7 notes 24:11 10:12, 13:21, 13:23, Miller 2:10, 5:9, nothing 14:1 < I > 14:3, 15:7, 15:12 22:21, 23:6 November 3:19, 4:11 idea 13:18, 14:7 large 11:19, 12:12 month 3:20 number 16:5 ILLINOIS 1:4, 1:12, LASALLE 24:3 motion 3:1, 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25:7 8:3, 9:7, 13:17, MEETING 1:3,1:8, nor 24:13, 24:14, 13:18, 14:1, 14:10, 4:11, 20:5 24:15 14:19 < L > MICHAEL 2:7 North 13:19, 17:14, pathway 11:14, lady 21:20 microphone 6:22 17:22 12:14, 12:16, 12:18, land 11:8,12:10, Mike 4:1, 13:10, northerly 11:24 13:4 Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Plan Commission October 10, 2007 29 pay 14:20 properties 14:18, received 22:17 sanitary 12:4, 12:6 PC 3:17, 4:13, 16:23, 15:11, 15:14 recommend 21:16 satisfied 21:12 19:4 property 6:8, 10:5, recommendation saying 22:1 peaceful 12:11 10:20, 11:11, 11:19, 6:16, 21:13, 22:11 says 22:24 people 7:22, 9:4, 11:21, 12:2, 12:15, recommended 5:12 secluded 12:11 9:10, 9:15, 9:18, 16:5 12:19, 13:15, 13:23, reconsider 13:2 Second 3:4, 4:2, perfect 12:11 14:6, 15:7, 17:21, record 16:21, 19:2 13:13, 16:12, 16:13, perfectly 21:11 20:4, 20:6, 20:7, related 24:13, 24:14 17:2, 18:19, 19:7, perhaps 21:1 21:11, 21:21, 22:4, remain 9:17 23:13, 23:14 permits 6:8 22:18 remaining 15:11, seconded 3:6 petition 20:19 proposed 12:16 15:14 section 10:16, 11:19 petitioner 3:18 protest 7:12, 7:16 Report 1:8, 24:9 seems 12:22 phonetic 11:7 provided 12:4 reported 24:7 seen 20:5 picture 18:2 public 3:2, 3:12, Reporter 24:6 Service 18:7 pieces 12:9 3:16, 4:12, 6:19, represent 19:23 set 25:2 place 12:12, 24:11 8:10, 8:11, 15:19, reproduced 24:21 sets 22:7 Plan 1:3, 4:18, 5:8, 15:24, 16:8, 16:23, request 6:10, 6:15 settlers 22:2 5:11, 7:4, 8:21, 11:5, 18:17, 18:21, 19:13, requested 3:18 sewer 5:24, 12:4, 13:12, 14:16, 15:5, 20:12, 20:17, 23:3, requesting 5:15, 12:6, 14:4 17:12, 19:18, 20:18 23:11, 23:20, 23:23 5:18 shed 8:5 planning 8:6 publish 21:14 requiring 11:14, 13:2 Shorthand 24:6, plans 13:4, 21:21 Put 11:14, 12:12, residential 17:19 24:7, 24:10 plat 4:22, 4:23, 5:3 23:1 residents 14:2 show 22:20 please 3:13 Response 3:10, 4:8, shows 5:4, 22:18 Pohlweg 13:10, 15:17, 16:19, 17:6, side 10:8, 10:8, 13:13, 13:14 < Q > 18:24, 19:12, 23:18 10:18, 10:19, 11:23, poin 6:15 quarter 11:11 responsibility 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