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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILL
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PLAN COMMISSION
YORKVILLE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:00pm
Chairman Anne Lucietto called the meeting to order at 7:03pm.
Roll Call:
Members present John Hegeler, Sandra Adams, Tom Lindblom, Jeff Baker, Mike
Crouch, Charles Kraupner, Clarence Holdiman, Anne Lucietto
Absent: Jack Jones, Brian Schillinger
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A quorum was established
Citv Staff And Visitors:
Travis Miller - Community Development Director, Dan Kramer- Attorney, John Roesch,
Samantha Duda, Eric Saunders, Tom Gilmour, Chris Lindley - Christopher Burke
Engineering, Tony Zangler, Tom O'Brien- Thomas Alarm Systems, Matt Schury- Kendall
County Record, Jason Pesola, Mike Frick, Julie Polhill, Roxane Griesmann, Ken
Griesmann, Gregg Ingemunson- Attorney, William Dunn - Engineering Enterprises,
Christine Vitosh -Court Reporter, Mike Bollweg
Minutes: September 12, 2007
Lindblom made a motion to approve the minutes as presented and Baker seconded the
motion. Passed unanimously on a voice vote.
Public Hearings:
Chairman Lucietto entertained a motion to enter into Public Hearing. Holdiman and
Adams moved and seconded to enter into the Hearings and this motion passed
unanimously on a voice vote.
Lucietto asked all who wished to speak to be sworn in as a group.
1. PC 2007 -30 Roger and Betty Jensen. The petitioners requested a continuance to
November 14, 2007. Crouch and Lindblom moved and seconded to continue this
hearing. The motion passed by a voice vote with all in favor.
2. PC 2007 -23, Anthony and Nicole Zangler, petitioners, have filed an application
with the United City of Yorkville, Kendall County, Illnois, requesting annexation
to the United City of Yorkville and zoning to the United City of Yorkville R -1
One Family Residence District. The real property consists of approximately 5.7
acres, located at 96 Quinsey Lane, Bristol Township, Kendall County Illinois.
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The Plan Council has recommended annexation and the petitioner wishes to build one
house on this property. Attorney Ingemunson added that there are some easement issues.
Chairman Lucietto asked for public comments:
Julie Polhill
She lives next to the property and expressed concern about the possible bike path.
Samantha Duda, 402 Johnson St.
She said there is a garbage dumpster on Quinsey Lane for people who live along the
river. She asked if the dumpster could be moved east. She also inquired if the driveway
would be an access for several homes or just the Zangler's.
Ken Griesmann
He is the present owner of the property and said he did not feel it was right for the
Zanglers to relinquish so many easements on that small of a property. He spoke against
the pathway and additional easements.
Mike Bollwea
He owns property on the east side of the petitioners and also is not in favor of the bike
path, however, he is in favor of the possible sewer and water easement.
Mike Frick
He lives west of the property and spoke out against the bike path and said taxes are high
enough.
John Roesch, 98 Quinsey Lane
He asked if the remaining properties along Quinsey Lane would be annexed if this
annexation is approved.
There were no further comments and the Public Hearing was closed on a motion by
Baker and second by Hegeler. Unanimous approval of motion by voice vote.
Travis Miller reviewed staff comments. He first stated that the City is not seeking to
annex the remaining property on Quinsey Lane and he noted that Quinsey Lane is a
private road. There is a possibility of future sewer hookups, however. The property
being discussed automatically becomes R -1 zoning with annexation and staff
recommended three easements to be dedicated: utility easement, extension of sanitary
sewer easement and trail easement. The trail would connect to the Heartland
development. He said staff has recommended that Quinsey Lane remain private.
Kraupner noted that Heartland has planned street stubs into the Quinsey Lane area. The
Zanglers do not plan to subdivide their property and therefore there would not be a need
for a connection.
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It was noted that the Zanglers are also opposed to a bike path, but would be OK with a
sewer pipe being installed if it was done at the time of their home construction. The
Commission members generally agreed they would not want a bike path there, however,
they agreed that a sewer pipe installation and utility easement would make good sense at
the time of construction.
Action Items
1. Annexation
Tom Lindblom made a motion to recommend approval of the annexation as presented,
omitting the bike path. Jeff Baker seconded the motion and the motion carried on a roll
call vote: Adams -aye, Baker -aye, Hegeler -aye, Lindblom -aye, Holdiman-aye, Crouch -
aye, Kraupner -nay, Lucietto -aye.
3. PC 2007 -32, Thomas O'Brien, Thomas Alarm System, petitioner, has filed an
application with the United City of Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting
rezoning from R -2 One - Family Resident District to the United City of Yorkville
B -3 Service Business District. The real property commonly known as Lot 1 of
the North Bridge Street Subdivision, consists of approximately 0.2 acres, located
at 711 North Bridge Street, United City of Yorkville, Kendall County Illinois.
Ms. Lucietto entertained a motion to enter into Public Hearing for the above. It was
moved and seconded by Crouch and Lindblom respectively, to enter into Public Hearing
PC 2007 -32. Unanimous approval.
Mr. Thomas O'Brien, 711 N. Bridge, asked for zoning from residential R -2 to business
B -3 on this property in order to operate his business. It is located on the west side of
Somonauk and Appletree.
There was no comment and a motion was made by Lindblom and seconded by Crouch to
close the Hearing. Motion approved unanimously.
Action Item
1. Rezoning
There was no discussion regarding this request and a motion was made by Crouch to
approve the zoning to B -3. Hegeler seconded the motion and it was approved by all on a
roll call vote: Baker -aye, Hegeler -aye, Lindblom -aye, Holdiman-aye, Crouch -aye,
Kraupner -aye, Adams -aye, Lucietto -aye.
4. PC 2007 -33, Virginia Welles, petitioner, has filed an application with the United
City of Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting zoning to the United City
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of Yorkville R -1 One Family Residence District. The real property consists of
approximately 250.65 acres, located at 13873 Walker Road, Fox Township, Kendall
County Illinois.
It was moved and seconded by Baker and Crouch to enter into Public Hearing
PC 2007 -33. A voice vote unanimously approved this motion.
Attorney Dan Kramer was present on behalf of the petitioner. He said this property had
been annexed the previous night at the City Council meeting. This property is in the
midst of agricultural property and is off Hollonback and Walker Roads. He asked for a
recommendation of "estate zoning". He added that property owner, Virginia Welles
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takes great pride in the fact that her ancestors were the first white settlers in the county
and she does not want the property developed. This is the reason for the zoning request.
There was no further comment and a motion was made by Crouch and seconded by
Adams to close the Public Hearing. Unanimous approval on a voice vote.
It was noted that this property shares boundaries on three sides, with the formerly
proposed Fox Moraine property.
Travis Miller suggested that the Findings of Fact should be considered when making the
decision on the zoning. Chairman Lucietto briefly reviewed this. Attorney Kramer noted
there are 5 or 6 properties zoned "estate" near the Welles property.
After brief discussion, Baker moved and Hegeler seconded to recommend estate zoning
as requested. Motion passed unanimously on a roll call vote: Baker -aye, Hegeler -aye,
Lindblom -aye, Holdiman-aye, Crouch -aye, Kraupner -aye, Adams -aye, Lucietto -aye.
New Business
1. PC 2007 -25, The Fields at Westhaven
Action Items:
1. Preliminary Plan
Trevor Ryan of Marquette Land represents the owners of the property purchased in 2005
and is near Baseline Road. At that time, there was a PUD and it was amended in 2006.
The 161 -acre residential portion is at the northwest part of the site.
A Land Vision representative showed a preliminary plan of the 164 -acre site. They have
been working with Plan Council, staff, the school and parks regarding the site. The
development will include 261 lots with average lot size of 13,435 square foot and a gross
density of 1.6. Baseline Road is the main north -side collector road.
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Concern included having a major collector so close to a school. Concerns from
Lindblom included 22 lots being inaccessible due to a 1 -way in/1 -way out and two streets
called Keystone. Chairman Lucietto agreed and said the Plan Commission always favors
two ways in/out. Also, much traffic would be added to the Rt. 30/47/Baseline Road area
and improvements would be needed. Mr. Ryan said the Beecher Road extension would
ease some of that.
Travis Miller offered comments from the staff report and some of those are as follows.
He said if this development precedes Bailey Meadows, timing would be an issue in
regards to infrastructure, water etc . The city does allow for recapture and front -fund
agreements. He also noted that the 15 acre land cash donation is above the required
amount. In addition, the area south of the Corn Ed easement is age- restricted and the
property will not be a burden on the school system. He recommended that the
preliminary plan move forward with a further delineation of the boundaries of the
school /park site.
Bill Dunn of EEI told the developer that a watermain will go through the school /park site
and said no building can be built in that area.
Commission member Hegeler asked about widening of Rt. 47 since many collector roads
will empty onto it. Funding is the problem at this time. In conjunction with that
question, Miller noted that two commercial developments planned along Rt. 47 would
require two points of access and an IDOT permit is required. Miller also said that the
developer agreed to pay for a portion of Rt. 47 improvements in their agreement.
no further discussion and Lindblom made a motion to There was approve this
development subject to staff concerns and the following points: landlocking and the
collector road. Hegeler seconded the motion. A roll call vote was taken: Lindblom -aye,
Holdiman-aye, Crouch -aye, Kraupner -aye, Adams -aye, Baker -aye, Hegeler -aye,
Lucietto -aye. Motion passed unanimously.
Additional Business:
A 2008 tentative meeting schedule was handed out for review.
Chairman Lucietto summarized the recent consortium meeting that she and Sandra
Adams attended. IDOT and Fran Klaas attended and addressed questions regarding area
roads. November 15` is the next meeting date and the topic will be preserving the rural
nature. In January, historic preservation will be discussed. Information from the
meetings is posted on the City website
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Travis Miller reviewed the Comp Plan Steering Committee. He would like to meet once
a month beginning in November. He expects it will be a 2 -hour meeting. Information
will be given out for the future meetings regarding structure and topics. He would like to
schedule two open houses for the public to attend. Chairman Lucietto suggested asking
each Alderman to recommend one person from their ward to be part of the committee
also and she will present this idea at the November 13 Council meeting. Ms. Lucietto
said there will also be a webpage regarding this committee.
She said Platteville has invited her to explain how the Plan Commission works and she
would like all Plan Commission members to attend. She also handed out name tags for
all commission members for these upcoming meetings.
Discussion turned to the boundary agreement between Yorkville and Montgomery.
Miller reported that the two staffs have met and drafted an agreement. Council has
discussed it and they also asked for Plan Commission input. Documents will be in the
packets for next month's meeting. Miller presented a map that showed the boundaries.
Lindblom asked if residents along Galena Road would have input as to what town they
would belong. He also asked about the Willowbrook subdivision and noted that those
residents have more connection with Yorkville largely due to the schools. He said those
people should have input into any decision. Miller said public notices would be posted
and they would have a chance to attend meetings. Lucietto suggested discussions should
be held with the residents. The Storybook subdivision was also included in this
discussion.
Crouch concurred with this opinion and said he felt Yorkville would not forcibly annex
this area. However, he did not know about Montgomery. He felt those residents would
be upset if forcibly annexed where they did not want to be. There will be further
discussions next month.
Hegeler inquired if Yorkville had any plans for a Yorkville train station since it would
ease traffic. It is included on the comp plan on the east side of Yorkville. A comparison
was made to Oswego who has a park `n ride, however, there is no train station there.
Metra would ultimately decide where a station would be located.
There was no further discussion and a motion was made by Crouch to adjourn the
meeting. Hegeler seconded the motion and it carried unanimously on a voice vote at
8:54pm.
Minutes respectfully submitted by
Marlys Young, Minute Taker
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PLAN COMMISSION MEETING
UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE, ILLINOIS
REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS had at the meeting
of the above - entitled matter taken before
CHRISTINE M. VITOSH, C.S.R., on October 10, 2007,
at the hour of 7:00 p.m., at 800 Game Farm Road,
in the City of Yorkville, Illinois.
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1 P R E S E N T:
2 MS. ANNE LUCIETTO, Chairman;
3 MR. TOM LINDBLOM;
4 MR. CLARENCE HOLDIMAN;
5 MS. SANDRA ADAMS;
6 MR. CHARLES KRAUPNER;
7 MR. MICHAEL CROUCH;
8 MR. JEFF BAKER;
9 MR. JOHN HEGELER;
10 MR. TRAVIS MILLER;
11 MS. MARLYS YOUNG.
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1 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: I need a motion
2 to move into public hearing.
3 MR. HOLDIMAN: Moved.
4 MS. ADAMS: Second.
5 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Moved and
6 seconded. All in favor say aye.
7 (A Chorus of Ayes)
8 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor,
9 nay.
10 (No Response)
11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: We are currently
12 in public hearing. Now I'm going to ask anyone
13 that is going to speak to please stand up and
14 raise your right hand.
15 (Witnesses sworn)
16 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Our first public
17 hearing is PC 2007 -30, Roger and Betty Jensen. I
18 am told that the petitioner has requested that it
19 be continued again to November 14. We continued
20 this from last month. Do we need a motion to
21 continue it? Yes. Okay.
22 Do we have a motion to
23 continue?
24 MR. CROUCH: So moved.
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1 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Mike.
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2 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second.
3 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor say
4 aye.
5 (A Chorus of Ayes)
6 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Not in favor,
7 nay.
8 (No Response)
9 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. We will
10 move on then, and that will be continued to the
11 November 14th, 2007 meeting.
12 The next item in the public
13 hearings is PC 2007 -23, Anthony and Nicole
14 Zangler.
15 WHEREUPON:
16 GREGG INGEMUNSON,
17 having been first duly sworn, testified before
18 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
19 MR. INGEMUNSON: Hi.
20 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Hi.
21 MR. INGEMUNSON: Do you guys have
22 copies of -- There should be a couple -- plat of
23 topography and a plat of annexation, one of each.
24 MR. HOLDIMAN: Gregg --
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1 MR. INGEMUNSON: Okay. That's the
2 newest version, that's --
3 MR. HOLDIMAN: The plat, but it
4 shows the location.
5 MR. INGEMUNSON: Well, to give you a
6 little background, we came through I think on a
7 mile and a half review -- I don't know, did we go
8 through this, Travis, with the Plan Commission --
9 MR. MILLER: No.
10 MR. INGEMUNSON: We didn't make it
11 that far. What happened is we went to Plan
12 Council and they recommended annexation, so we
13 came back through and said okay, if the City
14 wants to annex, then we will be happy to do that,
15 so we are in here requesting annexation.
16 It's about 5.7 acres on Quincy
17 Lane just east of Woodworth Estates, and we're
18 really just requesting annexation and then
19 default zoning to Rl where we would build one
20 house.
21 Travis and I have spoken
22 about -- One additional reason we didn't want to
23 annex was because of the cost to hook up to the
24 sewer, which would have been 7 -- 6 or $7,000 an
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1 acre, and with the five acres, we are looking at
2 rather costly.
3 So Travis has had some
4 conversations with Ralph, and I have not yet, but
5 I am going to. We're going to try to limit one
6 acre into annexation into YBSD to keep that cost
7 down, and, of course, there will be no other
8 buildings or permits issued on this property, so
9 we would only be building one house on here on
10 approximately 5.7 acres, so we would request
11 annexation to be able to actually accomplish
12 that, and we've had some discussions with the
13 City, and there is some easement issues we've
14 talked about. I'm sure Travis will go into that
15 a little bit, but at this point, I'll request a
16 positive recommendation on annexation to the
17 City.
18 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Now, if
19 anyone has any comments from the public, this is
20 your time to voice them.
21 What I'm going to ask, if you
22 would come up to the microphone, state your name
23 and where you live, and then clearly state what
24 your issue or question is.
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1 WHEREUPON:
2 JULIE POLHILL,
3 having been first duly sworn, testified before
4 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
5 MS. POLHILL: Okay. I'm Julie
6 Polhill. I live in Woodworth Estates, which is
7 directly next to his client, and some neighbors
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8 and I had some questions because we heard that
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9 there was a possible bike path, which we are not
10 at all interested in on that easement, and I was
11 wondering if that was going to be a possibility
12 or what we could do to protest the bike path.
13 MR. INGEMUNSON: Well, we don't want
14 it either, so we're happy they don't want it
15 because we don't want it, so as much as they can
16 protest, we are happy about that.
17 MR. HOLDIMAN: Gregg, does two
18 negatives make a positive?
19 MS. POLHILL: It's a positive if it
20 works in our favor.
21 MR. INGEMUNSON: Exactly. I like it
22 when people come up and speak on things that are
23 on our behalf.
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24 MS. POLHILL: Yes, we would love
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2 MR. INGEMUNSON: Which we would love
3 to be neighbors without a bike path.
4 MS. POLHILL: I'm just wondering if
5 you could shed some light on what the City is
6 planning.
7 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: You know what,
8 we usually have a really big discussion
9 afterwards. We try to get all the facts together
10 at the public hearings. We are going to go
11 through all the public hearings and then we're
12 going to talk about it, and then at that point we
13 can answer questions, and if you have more
14 questions that come from that, we can answer
15 then.
16 MS. POLHILL: Okay. Great.
17 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Great.
18 WHEREUPON:
19 SAMANTHA DUDA,
20 having been first duly sworn, testified before
21 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
22 MS. DUDA: My name is Samantha Duda.
23 I live at 402 Johnson Street. Behind our house
24 on Quincy Drive there is a garbage dumpster for
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1 the houses that are along the river, so we were
2 wondering if anything is going to be done about
3 that because that technically will be those
4 people's driveway when they -- if they were to
5 move in there. We don't want the garbage
6 dumpster there either.
7 And then the path -- actually
8 Quincy Lane, if that was going to be their
9 driveway, is that going to be access to all the
10 other people that live on the river or are they
11 going to build a different access off of Tuma.
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12 We heard rumors about there was
13 going to be a different access off of Tuma for
14 the houses along the river and this was going to
15 be access only for the people moving in.
16 MR. INGEMUNSON: The access is going
17 to remain the same. There is no change for the
18 access. It will be the access for the people,
19 for them, and on the river.
20 As far as the dumpster, I think
21 they are trying to move that.
22 MR. ZANGLER: We are trying to move
23 that to the east.
24 MR. INGEMUNSON: East end. Because
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1 they don't like that dumpster where its at.
2 MS. DUDA: Right.
3 MR. INGEMUNSON: And they are
4 looking to move that on the east end of the
5 property, is that right, Tony?
6 MR. ZANGLER: Yes.
7 MR. INGEMUNSON: When I said eastern
8 side -- the dumpster is on the western side.
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10 they're just going to move it --
11 MR. INGEMUNSON: No, no, all the way
12 down the lane. Where it curves all the way down
13 to the end.
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15 MR. INGEMUNSON: Not just across the
16 little section of the street, all the way down to
17 the western edge. Is that right?
18 MR. ZANGLER: Eastern side.
19 MR. INGEMUNSON: Eastern side of the
20 property, so 300 feet away approximately.
21 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: That answers
22 your question?
23 MS. DUDA: Yes.
24 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Great.
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1 Thank you.
2 WHEREUPON:
3 KEN GRIESMAN,
4 having been first duly sworn, testified before
5 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
6 MR. GRIESMAN: My name is Ken
7 Griesman (phonetic). My wife and I are the
8 present owners of the land to be rezoned. We
9 don't feel it's right of you to expect the buyers
10 to give up so many easements on this small five
11 and three quarter acre property.
12 If the Zanglers were
13 subdivision developers, we could understand
14 requiring them to put in a pathway and full
15 subdivision, but the Zanglers are not developers.
16 They are a family and they want to build one
17 home.
18 The buildable portion of this
19 property is not that large. The southern section
20 along the river is floodplain and there are
21 already two easements on the property. There is
22 a 30 foot by 765 foot easement on the westerly
23 side and a 16 foot easement exists along the
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1 You are asking for more
2 easements that will further divide this property.
3 We understand that sometime in the future a
4 sanitary sewer line needs to be provided. We are
5 not opposed to this improvement, but the work
6 needs to be completed now. The sanitary sewer
7 line should be located in an area agreeable to
8 both the City and the Zanglers.
9 There are not many pieces of
10 land like this left in Yorkville. It's quiet,
11 tree covered, secluded, and peaceful, a perfect
12 place to put up a large, beautiful home and raise
13 a family.
14 We are opposed to the pathway
15 from Heartland Circle to our property. The
16 homeowners next to the proposed pathway are also
17 opposed. We do not know of any other subdivision
18 in the City that has a pathway from their
19 property to the river.
20 Safe access from this same
21 riverside area is already available by sidewalks
22 on Bruell Street. It seems unnecessary to add
23 expense to the taxpayers for something that
24 already exists.
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1 In conclusion, we hope that you
2 will reconsider your position on requiring the
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4 abandon your plans for a pathway through this
5 land.
6 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Thank you. Is
7 there anyone else? Need you to tell us your name
8 verbally, too.
9 WHEREUPON:
10 MIKE POHLWEG,
11 having been first duly sworn, testified before
12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
13 MR. POHLWEG: One second. I'm
14 sorry. My name is Mike Pohlweg. I own the
15 property adjacent on -- excuse me, on the east
16 side of the lot in question for rezoning, and,
17 once again, I am not in favor of this bike path
18 because I have no idea where its path is going to
19 connect to the north and how it's going to tie
20 into the Heartland subdivision because that's
21 only -- that's a very narrow lane there and it's
22 the real easement for getting in and out of the
23 Quincy Lane subdivision and my property, so once
24 again, I know the City's evidently in favor of
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1 this bike path, but it's nothing that I would be
2 in favor of or of any residents that I know of on
3 Quincy Lane.
4 Also, the sewer and water
5 potential easement that's heading east to my
6 property, I am in favor of that, and I think
7 would be a good idea for future potential
8 development if that happens someday.
9 I am in favor of that, but not
10 the bike path, so that's all I can say.
11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Thank you. Is
12 there anyone else?
13 WHEREUPON:
14 MIKE FRICK,
15 having been first duly sworn, testified before
16 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
17 MR. FRICK: My name is Mike Frick
18 and I live west of the properties along the
19 easement, and I don't want a bike path simply
20 because I don't want to pay for it, I feel my
21 taxes are high enough, and that's really my
22 major -- my major concern is taxes are high
23 enough. Thank you.
24 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Thank you.
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1 Anyone else?
2 WHEREUPON:
3 JOHN ROESCH,
4 having been first duly sworn, testified before
5 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
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6 MR. ROESCH: My name is John Roesch.
7 I own the property at 98 Quincy Lane. I have no
8 problem with the rezoning of this acreage.
9 I have a question as to in the
10 future if this -- if this annexation goes
11 through, the status of the remaining properties
12 along the lane. Does that mean that the City of
13 Yorkville would be looking towards annexation of
14 the remaining properties? That's the question.
15 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Thank you.
16 Anyone else?
17 (No Response)
18 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. When we
19 close the public hearing, we will come back and
20 discuss this as a committee, and then at that
21 point we usually -- if there is extra questions
22 or whatever, we do entertain them.
23 MR. HOLDIMAN: Haven't we gone out
24 of public hearings to deal with this issue one at
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1 a time?
2 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Yes, but with
3 the length, I thought we would do it once.
4 MR. HOLDIMAN: Okay, due to the
5 number of people there for this -- it's your
6 call.
7 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: That's fine.
8 I'll entertain a motion to close the public
9 hearing.
10 MR. BAKER: So moved, Baker.
11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Is there a
12 second?
13 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second.
14 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor say
15 aye.
16 (A Chorus of Ayes)
17 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Not in favor,
18 say nay.
19 (No Response)
20 (discussion had off
21 the record)
22 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Entertain a
23 motion to open the public hearing for PC 2007 -32,
24 Thomas O'Brien, Thomas Alarm System.
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1 MR. CROUCH: So moved.
2 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second.
3 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor?
4 (A Chorus of Ayes)
5 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Not in favor?
6 (No Response)
7 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Who is speaking
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9 WHEREUPON:
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10 THOMAS O'BRIEN,
11 having been first duly sworn, testified before
12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
13 MR. O'BRIEN: Yes. I am Tom
14 O'Brien, 711 North Bridge.
15 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Do you want to
16 tell us a little bit about what you are trying to
17 do?
18 MR. O'BRIEN: I am changing the
19 zoning from residential to business.
20 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: And your
21 property is located where?
22 MR. O'BRIEN: 711 North Bridge.
23 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: So that's on 47?
24 MR. O'BRIEN: Correct.
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1 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Can you describe
2 the area just so that everybody can picture it?
3 MR. O'BRIEN: Between Somonauk and
4 Apple Tree on the west side of the road.
5 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. So you
6 want to go from R2 One- Family Business District
7 to B3 Service Business District so you can
8 operate your business there?
9 MR. O'BRIEN: Correct. I already
10 have been.
11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Did you have any
12 other comments or was that it?
13 MR. O'BRIEN: No.
14 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: That was pretty
15 much it? Okay. So that we can have further
16 discussion, I entertain a motion to close the
17 public hearing.
18 MR. HOLDIMAN: So moved.
19 MR. BAKER: Second.
20 MR. KRAUPNER: Did you ask for the
21 public?
22 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Oh. Is there
23 anyone here that wants to speak on this one?
24 (No Response)
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3 CHAIRMAN'LUCIETTO: Entertain a
4 motion for PC 2007 -33, Virginia Welles.
5 MR. CROUCH: So moved.
6 MR. BAKER: So moved.
7 MR. CROUCH: Second.
8 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Thank
9 you. All in favor say aye.
10 (A Chorus of Ayes)
11 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Not in favor?
12 (No Response)
13 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: We are in public
14 hearing.
15 WHEREUPON:
16 DANIEL J. KRAMER,
17 having been first duly sworn, testified before
18 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
19 MR. KRAMER: Good evening. My name
20 is Daniel J. Kramer. My address is 1107A South
21 Bridge Street, Yorkville, Illinois, 60560. I am
22 an attorney licensed to practice law in the State
23 of Illinois and represent Virginia Welles.
24 This matter is up before you
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1 tonight, and some of you may think this might be
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2 a bit the cart before the horse.
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3 We actually annexed this
4 property to the City of Yorkville last evening at
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5 the Council meeting. You haven't seen it a lot
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6 over the years, but if a property owner is
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7 willing to annex property and go automatically to
8 the default zoning classification and if there
9 isn't a written annexation agreement that the
10 developer or owner wants something special or the
11 City wants something special, the City can simply
12 do that without public hearing, and so the
13 annexation ordinance has I hope been signed by
14 today, but it was unanimously approved by the
15 City Council last night.
16 To get zoning other than the
17 default zoning, we need to do the public hearing
18 in front of the Plan Commission, and actually we
19 filed this petition asking for the default
20 zoning, which is R1 Single Family.
21 Frankly, the area we're in, out
22 off of Route 71, Hollenbeck Road and Walker Road,
23 is very agriculturally based at this time, and we
24 had discussions with your City Community
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1 Development Director about perhaps not going to
2 default zoning.
3 A little bit of
4 statutory history; it used to be pretty much all
5 the time that your R1 would be the default or the
6 most restrictive zoning in any community. You
7 actually have two categories that I would
8 consider less dense or more restrictive; that
9 being estate, and you also have an ag zoning.
10 We feel that the estate zoning
11 would be perfectly appropriate for this property,
12 and we would be satisfied if you gave a
13 recommendation to the City Council to zone it
14 estate zoning, and as long as we publish for a
15 more dense or a more intense use than R1, you do
16 have the legal ability to recommend anything more
17 restrictive or lower, even estate or ag.
18 Frankly, we would like the
19 estate zoning rather than agricultural.
20 Mrs. Welles is a young lady of 88 and she has no
21 plans on developing the property during her
22 lifetime.
23 Louie Thurow during some of the
24 other hearings that went on in the city takes
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1 great pride in saying that her forebearers were
2 the first white settlers in Kendall County,
3 Illinois, so she would prefer not to see the
4 property develop, but we don't know generations
5 down the road, so we think locking it in as
6 estate zoning helps you as a city for future
7 growth out there, sets a tone for nice, big lots
8 if it ever is developed, but we have no intention
9 of doing that for a good long time.
10 So that's our comments, and we
11 would ask for a positive recommendation as to
12 estate zoning.
13 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Okay. Is there
14 anyone here that wishes to ask questions?
15 MR. HOLDIMAN: I've got just a point
16 of clarification. Dan, on the different maps
17 that we received, the one that you have displayed
18 up there shows the corner of the property going
19 right up to Route 71; this colored map right here
20 does not show that same thing.
21 MR. MILLER: I can speak to that.
22 The colored maps were prepared by staff and
23 they're not correct. That's correct. If you
24 note, it says approximate location.
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1 MR. HOLDIMAN: Put an X maybe?
2 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: We'll take that
3 more up in detail when we are out of public
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5 MR. KRAMER: Nicely done,
6 Mr. Miller.
7 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: There is
8 apparently no one else that wishes to speak for
9 this one, so I'll ask --
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11 public hearing.
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14 MS. ADAMS: Second.
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15 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: All in favor?
16 (A Chorus of Ayes)
17 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: Nay?
18 (No response)
19 CHAIRMAN LUCIETTO: We are out of
20 public hearing.
21 (Which were all the
22 proceedings had in
23 public hearing.)
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4 I, Christine M. Vitosh, a Certified
5 Shorthand Reporter, do hereby certify that I
6 reported in shorthand the proceedings had at the
7 hearing of the above - entitled cause and that the
8 foregoing Report of Proceedings, is a true,
9 correct, and complete transcript of my shorthand
10 notes so taken at the time and place aforesaid.
11 I further certify that I am neither
12 counsel for nor related to counsel for any of the
13 parties to this suit, nor am I in any way related
14 to any of the parties to this suit, nor am I in
15 any way interested in the outcome thereof.
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19 and certified under my hand only. I assume no
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