Plan Commission Minutes 2006 04-12-06 Page 1 of 4
APPROVED 08/09/06
UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
PLAN COMMISSION
YORKVILLE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12, 2006
Chairman Tom Lindblom called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Charles Kraupner, Clarence Holdiman, Anne Lucietto, Sandra Adams,
Jack Jones Michael Crouch and Tom Lindblom. Members absent: Bill Davis and Brian
Schillinger.
A quorum was established.
VISITORS
Community Development Director Travis Miller; City Planner Mike Schoppe; Interim
City Administrator John Crois; Lynn Dubajic, YEDC; consulting engineer John
Whitehouse, Engineering Enterprises, Inc. Also, see attached sign -in sheet.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Jack Jones made a motion to open the public hearings. Charles Kraupner seconded the
motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote.
1. PC 2006 -20 Pulte Home Corporation, MPLIV 10 LLC, MPLIV 20 LLC, and MLH
Yorkville, petition requesting an amendment to an Annexation and Planned Unit
Development Agreement and rezoning.
See attached.
2. PC 2006 -25 New Life Church of Yorkville and the Baumann family, petition to annex
and rezone.
See attached.
3. Yorkville Planned Unit Development Ordinance Amendment.
See attached.
Sandra Adams made a motion to close the public hearing. Jones seconded the motion.
The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote.
NEW BUSINESS
LPC 2006 -20 Pulte Home Corporation
Chairman Tom Lindblom asked if there had been any discussion on the school site. Matt
Cudney, representing Pulte Homes, said there would be a school site somewhere in the
plan and the developers will continue to work with the Yorkville School District on
determining the most appropriate location for a school.
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John Whitehouse from Engineering Enterprises, Inc., the city's consulting engineer, made
an amendment to comments he submitted on the project. He'd like to reserve the right to
make comment on the final plat because of an issue with the shallow ground water.
Lindblom asked Cudney about putting in a direct access from the Del Webb portion of
the development to the commercial section. Cudney, however, said traditionally residents
in Del Webb communities don't want a direct access. It's a privacy issue, he said. Also,
the streets within the development are private streets and residents don't generally want
other traffic on them. As for the Del Webb residents, they'll have access to the
commercial area using a frontage road.
Crouch said he's glad the developer increased the size of the commercial area. However,
he doesn't like the increased density in the residential area. Cudney said that while
density in the active -adult section of the plan increase, residents of that community create
less of an impact on the community's facilities. Typically, those residents make fewer
trips on the road and use less water and sewer facilities. Also, he said the number of
conventional homes decreased in the proposed revised plan.
The revised plan features 81 additional acres for commercial use and 56 acres, for the Del
Webb site. The total acreage decreased 84 acres. In total, the number of homes reduced
by 36 and the overall density increased by .01.
r Lucietto made a motion to recommend approval of the amendment to the PUD subject
to staff comments. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by
roll call vote. Kraupner, Holdiman, Lucietto, Adams, Jones, Crouch and Lindblom voted
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yes.
2. PC 2006 -25 New Life Church
Miller said the proposed plan submitted to the city is consistent with the city's
comprehensive plan except for the easterly commercial area. The comprehensive plan
shows that as a suburban area.
In deference to the concerns community members raised at the public hearing, Jones
asked if the petitioners could get what they wanted with B -2 zoning rather than B -3
zoning. B -2 is a more appropriate zoning for a downtown area because there are no
setback requirements, Miller said.
Lindblom asked if the petitioners would be willing to accept B -3 zoning along with a list
of acceptable users. By doing that, the city could prohibit uses such as a gas station going
into that area and it would alleviate some of the fears neighboring residents raised at the
public hearing. A list of allowable uses could then be added to the annexation agreement.
Vince Rosonova, attorney for the petitioners, said that is something the petitioners could
possibly take into consideration. Likewise, he said the church has a vested interested in
what commercial uses go on the property.
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Crouch said he doesn't have any problems with the proposed uses, he has issues with the
retention and detention plans. Also, he said the access to Galena Road is a big problem.
He concurs with comments made at the public hearing that the access is too close.
Crouch made a motion to recommend annexation approval for PC 2006 -25. Jones
seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. Holdiman,
Lucietto, Adams, Jones, Crouch, Kraupner and Lindblom voted yes.
Lucietto made a motion to recommend zoning approval for PC 2006 -25 contingent upon
limiting uses under the B -3 classification, limited access off Galena Road and staff
comments. Jones seconded the motion. Lucietto, Adams, Jones, Crouch, Kraupner,
Holdiman and Lindblom voted yes.
3. PC 2006 -01 Grande Reserve Unit 14 — Preliminary/ Final Plat
Patti Bernhard representing Pasquinelli Homes said Unit 14 is in Neighborhood 3. It
consists of 11.48 acres and would house 11 buildings (44 units) and a park.
Lucietto made a motion to recommend approval of PC 2006 -01 Grande Reserve Unit 14
preliminary and final plat. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously
approved in a roll call vote. Adams, Jones, Crouch, Kraupner, Holdiman, Lucietto, and
Lindblom voted yes.
4. PC 2006 -04 Grande Reserve Unit 15 — Preliminary/ Final Plat
Bernhard said this property consists of a little more than 19 acres and is found in
Neighborhood 5. Plans are to erect 16 buildings featuring 70 housing units and a large
park area.
Lucietto made a motion to recommend approval of PC 2006 -04 Grande Reserve Unit 14
preliminary and final plat. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously
approved in a roll call vote. Jones, Crouch, Kraupner, Holdiman, Lucietto, Adams and
Lindblom voted yes.
5. PC 2006 -14 Cozy Corner Subdivision — Final Plat
Miller said City Engineer Joe Wywrot said there are a few unresolved issues that need to
be clarified. One issue is a sign. However, Miller said the petitioner has approached the
Zoning Board of Appeals about that issue.
Crouch made a motion to recommend approval of the final plat for PC 2006 -14 subject to
staff comments. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by
roll call vote. Crouch, Kraupner, Holdiman, Lucietto, Adams, Jones and Lindblom voted
yes.
6. PC 2005 -53 Hudson Lakes — Preliminary Plan
Jim Olguin, representing the petitioner, said the plat has been in the works for a while and
reflects staff comments.
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The site features 10 acres to attach to a school site immediately north of the property.
Those additional 10 acres were requested by the school district.
Also, he said some of the streets were relocated including one, which should allow for
flexibility to access the school site.
Crouch made a motion to recommend approval of PC 2005 -53 preliminary plat subject to
staff comments. Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved in
a roll call vote. Kraupner, Holdiman, Lucietto, Adams, Jones, Crouch and Lindblom
voted yes.
7. Revised Planned Unit Development Ordinance
Lucietto made a motion to recommend approval of the Revised Planned Unit
Development Ordinance. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously
approved in a roll call vote. Holdiman, Lucietto, Adams, Jones, Crouch, Kraupner and
Lindblom voted yes.
Lucietto made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:11 p.m. Jones seconded the motion.
The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote.
Minutes respectfully submitted by Dina Gipe
PLAN COMMISSION MEETING
UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE, ILLINOIS
REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS had at the meeting
of the above - entitled matter taken before
CHRISTINE M. VITOSH, C.S.R., on April 12, 2006,
at the hour of 7:00 p.m., at 800 Game Farm Road,
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1 P R E S E N T:
2 MR. TOM LINDBLOM, Chairman;
3 MR. CLARENCE HOLDIMAN;
4 MS. SANDRA ADAMS;
5 MS. ANNE LUCIETTO;
6 MR. CHARLES KRAUPNER;
7 MR. MICHAEL CROUCH;
8 MR. BRIAN SCHILLINGER;
9 MR. JACK JONES;
10 MR. TRAVIS MILLER;
11 MR. MIKE SCHOPPE;
12 MS. DINA GIPS.
13 A P P E A R A N C E S:
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MR. JOHN JUSTIN WYETH, Counsel
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City of Yorkville, Illinois.
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1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Entertain a
2 motion to go to public hearing.
3 MR. JONES: So moved.
4 MR. KRAUPNER: Second.
5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Moved and
6 seconded to go to public hearing. Is there any
7 discussion on the motion?
8 (No Response)
9 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none,
10 those in favor signify by saying aye.
11 (A Chorus of Ayes)
12 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed?
13 (No Response)
14 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Motion passes.
15 At this time I would like to ask any people,
16 anybody in the audience, who wishes to comment to
17 stand, raise your right hand, and be sworn in. I
18 kind of forgot this little spiel at the
19 beginning.
20 If you are even thinking of
21 asking any questions at all, just go through the
22 process with the oath.
23 If you don't do that, then I
24 cannot ask to recognize you and let you speak at
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1 the public hearing. Is there anyone else that
2 wishes to stand?
3 (Witnesses sworn)
4 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Thank you. The
5 first hearing is PC 2006 -20, Pulte Home
6 Corporation, petitioners, have filed an
7 application with the United City of Yorkville,
8 Kendall County, Illinois, requesting an amendment
9 to an Annexation and Planned Unit Development
10 Agreement and requesting a rezoning to increase
11 the areas presently zoned B -3 Service Business
12 District and R -3 General Residence District and
13 to decrease the area presently zoned R -2
14 One - Family Residence District and to modify the
15 existing Planned Unit Development approved for a
16 part of the real property.
17 The real property consists of
18 approximately 587 acres at the northwest corner
19 of Galena Road and Route 47 in the United City Of
20 Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois.
21 And for the record, speaking
22 for the petitioner, is?
23 WHEREUPON:
24 MATT CUDNEY,
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1 having been first duly sworn, testified before
2 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
3 MR. CUDNEY: My name is Matt Cudney.
4 I work with Pulte Homes and Del Webb.
5 And I did bring some extra
6 copies of both the old plan and new plan. I'm
7 not sure if you have smaller copies; it may be
8 easier to look at.
9 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: We have the new
10 plan.
11 MR. CUDNEY: You have the new plan?
12 I will pass it around so you have a copy of the
13 new plan and old plan. If anyone wants a copy of
14 the new plan, it's here.
15 All right. We will get
16 started. I know that you have a very full agenda
17 tonight, so I will try and keep this brief.
18 We spent a lot of time last
19 summer going over this project and appreciate
20 that, all the time that was spent.
21 I think we've had three
22 different Plan Commission meetings on the
23 project, but the Plan Commission did approve the
24 annexation and zoning of the project on the old
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1 plan on August 10th of last year and they
2 approved the PUD plan on September 14th and the
3 City Council approved that same plan on September
4 27th.
5 Since that time we have been
6 approached by the city and also by a few
7 different commercial retail developers expressing
8 interest in the property along Route 47 and
9 expressing an interest in developing a much
10 larger strip than the initial 30 acres that was
11 proposed on the previous plan.
12 So let me start off by saying
13 first off that we are going to be talking about
14 everything south of the ComEd lines, so
15 everything north of the ComEd lines -- and we
16 consider this the Garitano north parcel --
17 nothing is changing for this parcel whatsoever,
18 so this is going to still be the same.
19 It still has -- it has been
20 annexed and it has been zoned, but when this plan
21 does come through, it will have to be brought
22 through with the preliminary plan and then
23 approved by the Plan Commission and then also a
24 final plan.
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1 So for tonight we are not going
2 to be discussing the portion north, so I just
3 wanted to clear that up so everyone -- everyone
4 knows that.
5 So what we are talking about is
6 the parcel to the south, and what that is it's an
7 assemblage of two different parcels. It's the
8 Garitano south parcel, which is basically this
9 area here, this section line runs through here,
10 and this is the Brummel parcel.
11 And you will notice that what
12 we have done is changed the layout a little bit.
13 What we have done is in order to accommodate the
14 depth in commercial and increasing the commercial
15 to 111 acres from the 30 acres, we have basically
16 taken the Del Webb section and pushed it over and
17 taken it and pushed it over on the Brummel parcel
18 as well, so in order to do that, what we have
19 done, in order to make the land plan work, that's
20 what we did.
21 We ended up reducing the amount
22 of conventional housing, we have increased the
23 Del Webb housing, and in the handout that I gave
24 you, it kind of gives you some of the breakdowns,
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1 so if you look at it, I think two things I would
2 like to point out with this new land plan is that
3 we eliminated all of the duplex units there, and
4 even multi - family units there we have eliminated,
5 and these are all going to be single- family
6 homes. So all single- family detached homes.
7 And the acreage obviously has
8 increased, but if you look at the number down at
9 the bottom where it says the total -- the total
10 number of homes on the old plan versus the new
11 plan, you will see that there is a net reduction
12 of 36 homes, and that's if you add all the
13 conventional and the traditional as well -- and
14 the Del Webb so that's -- the density is
15 basically the same. Everything else is pretty
16 much the same. Don't want to look through a lot
17 of things we talked about at the last public
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18 hearing in terms of the benefits of a Del Webb
19 community, we have gone through that in terms of
20 the decrease in usage and a lot of the different
21 services provided by the city, but we believe
22 that this plan -- there are a couple of really
23 strong advantages.
24 One is obviously the increase
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1 in the commercial. It will provide a lot more
2 sales tax revenue and generate that not only for
3 the city, but for the other taxing bodies in the
4 area, and also the fewer conventional homes means
5 a reduced student impact to the schools, and what
6 you will also have then is an increased tax
7 revenue based on the Del Webb portion with no
8 impact to the schools.
9 So generally it's really just
10 kind of a reconfiguration of the plan, increasing
11 the commercial, moving the density over, and
12 having the north parcel stay the same, and that's
13 generally it, and I don't think I need to go into
14 anymore, we've got a long meeting, so unless
15 anybody has specific questions, that's really
16 about it.
17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank
18 you, Matt. Let's see if -- Are there questions,
19 comments, from the audience on this project?
20 Gentleman,. back here, please.
21 MR. MELODY: Just a quick question.
22 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I'm sorry, your
23 name?
24 WHEREUPON:
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1 MATT MELODY,
2 having been first duly sworn, was examined upon
3 oral interrogatories and testified as follows:
4 MR. MELODY: Mike Melody. I am just
5 wondering, I haven't been in on any of the Del
6 Webb meetings before.
7 Are those units taxed --
8 property taxed individually or is the Del Webb
9 property taxed as a whole, assessed and taxed as
10 a whole?
11 MR. CUDNEY: The Del Webb property
12 is going to be -- will be taxed just like every
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14 MR. MELODY: Okay. Thank you.
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15 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Any other
16 questions or comments? Gentleman over here,
17 please.
18 WHEREUPON:
19 JERRY MURPHY,
20 having been first duly sworn, testified before
21 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
22 MR. MURPHY: Jerry Murphy. And on
23 the original plan, there were three entrances in
24 and out of the housing on the south portion, one
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1 on the new road that bisects and then two onto
2 Galena, and the new configuration just has two,
3 the one on Galena and then one on the new
4 bisecting road.
5 Is that going to be sufficient
6 as far as handling traffic is concerned?
7 MR. CUDNEY: Yes, it will. The
8 traffic studies that are done for an active adult
9 community are quite different than they are for a
10 traditional community.
11 A couple different reasons.
12 One, most of these people, you don't have the
13 same number of people residing in the home, so
14 there are less frequent trips in and out, and
15 also these people have a tendency to travel in
16 off -peak times, so the traffic studies that we
17 have done show that those two exits will be
18 adequate for the community.
19 MR. MURPHY: Are we anticipating any
20 stoplights or anything on Galena at the one
21 entrance?
22 MR. CUDNEY: At this point I can't
23 say whether or not there will be a stoplight on
24 Galena. We have to -- If the need warrants, but
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1 I imagine if the commercial develops on the south
2 parcel there, that that may create enough traffic
3 and traffic generated on the north part.
4 I would imagine that there
5 would be a traffic light at least at this
6 intersection at some point when the commercial
7 does develop because there will be a full
8 interchange into the commercial from Galena here,
9 and there is commercial planned in this
10 development here that's already been approved.
11 MR. MURPHY: Thank you.
12 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Any other
13 questions?
14 (No Response)
15 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thanks,
16 Matt.
17 Hearing none then, we will move
18 on to item number two, PC 2006 -25, New Life
19 Church of Yorkville, an Illinois not - for - profit
20 Corporation, the Estate of Elizabeth Baumann,
21 deceased, Teresa Hoffman and George Baumann, Old
22 Second Bank & Trust No. 8574, Henry A. Baumann,
23 Sr., bypass trust in care of Teresa Hoffman and
24 George P. Baumann, petitioners, have filed an
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1 application with the United City of Yorkville,
2 Kendall County, Illinois, requesting annexation
3 to the United City of Yorkville and rezoning from
4 Kendall County A -1 Agricultural to United City of
5 Yorkville B -3 Service Business District and R -1
6 One - Family Residence District.
7 The real property consists of
8 approximately 49.36 acres located on the
9 southeast corner of Galena Road and Kendall Road,
10 Bristol Township, Kendall County, Illinois.
11 And speaking for the
12 petitioners will be?
13 WHEREUPON:
14 VINCENT M. ROSANOVA,
15 having been first duly sworn, testified before
16 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
17 MR. ROSANOVA: Good evening. I am
18 Vince Rosanova with the law firm of Dommermuth,
19 Brestal, Cobine & West, and we represent the
20 contract purchaser, which is the petitioner,
21 which is the New Life Church of Yorkville.
22 The owners of the subject
23 property are the Estate of Elizabeth Baumann, as
24 well as Henry A. Baumann, Sr., bypass Trust and
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1 the Old Second Bank trust.
2 The New Life Church is
3 petitioning with the City of Yorkville for
4 annexation as well as zoning of the property, R -1
5 zoning in the northern quadrant, to allow for a
6 church facility, as well as a religious school
7 facility.
8 They are also requesting B -3
9 Service Business District zoning in the southern
10 quadrant of the property to allow for a mix of
11 commercial uses.
12 Tonight the following parties
13 are present, which would be Dave Walker, sitting
14 back here, of New Life Church, we have Phil
15 Stuepfert, who is also with New Life Church on
16 the board, the church board, as well as the
17 planning director at SEC Planning Consultants.
18 Before I begin my presentation
19 tonight, I feel it important to notify the
20 Commission that we are currently under
21 negotiations with a commercial tenant for this
22 southeast portion of the property here.
23 They will be requiring more
24 than the 7.66 acre net property, so we will be
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1 back before the Commission subsequently, perhaps
2 at the time of preliminary plat, to request a
3 rezoning of this property to accommodate that
4 particular tenant.
5 Looking at the plan here, you
6 can see that this property is north of Mill Road,
7 east of Kennedy Road, and southeast of Galena
8 Road.
9 It consists of approximately
10 49.36 acres and currently it's used for
11 agricultural purposes, and there is an existing
12 farmhouse down in this southeast quadrant of the
13 property.
14 The surrounding land uses
15 include B -3, which was part of the MPI Grande
16 Reserve Development in this quadrant right here,
17 which we feel would be in continuity with our
18 proposed B -3 zoning.
19 We have high density
20 residential in the City of Yorkville right here.
21 Where this Cross Lutheran Church is located, that
22 is A -1 Agricultural in Kendall County, and that's
23 occupied by the Cross Lutheran Church.
24 To the north we have Kendall
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1 County R -3 and A -1 zoning, which is currently
2 occupied by single- family detached residential
3 units, and off to the east we have Kendall County
4 A -1 zoning, which also accommodates single - family
5 housing.
6 Currently this property is
7 contiguous to the United City of Yorkville, and
8 we feel that annexation of such property would
9 provide for a logical extension of city
10 utilities, as well as provide for a positive
11 growth opportunity for the city.
12 Looking at our R -1 zoning
13 district up here, proposed zoning district, we
14 would like to put a church facility in there to
15 accommodate the growth of Yorkville, as well as
16 conversations with city staff have indicated they
17 would like to see a religious school facility in
18 there as well.
19 We feel that we can accommodate
20 that, and both of those uses are permitted uses
21 under your R -1 zoning district.
22 Down in this B -3 area we would
23 propose a mix of commercial uses. Right here you
24 can see we have excellent frontage off Kennedy,
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1 Galena and Mill Road, and we think that our
2 proposal here fits the land use characteristics
3 of the area.
4 Phil Stuepfert with SEC
5 Planning Consultants will get up here and do a
6 presentation that better defines this plan and he
7 can answer any questions you might have regarding
8 the intricacies of the plan and its design.
9 WHEREUPON:
10 PHIL STUEPFERT,
11 having been first duly sworn, testified before
12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
13 MR. STUEPFERT: Thank you. Just
14 wanted to point out a few things talking about
15 the land uses and zoning.
16 I think it's important to look
17 at some of the adjacent uses. I think I want to
18 be honest and upfront.
19 If you look at the comp plan,
20 yes, it does show commercial off to the west
21 side, basically in that entire region there, but
22 we are requesting some B -3 zoning over here as
23 well, which is not shown on the comp plan, but we
24 feel that it makes sense.
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1 First of all, as Vince
2 mentioned, B -3 zoning approval right here,
3 eventually -- I know this is not in the city, but
4 most likely I would think that would be converted
5 to commercial use as well, we are not guaranteed
6 of that, but I think it would probably make sense
7 at that corner, and so we have commercial at all
8 those intersections. South of here we have the
9 B -3 selection as well.
10 Over to the east, Vince
11 mentioned about the Cross Lutheran Church. We
12 are actually working with them as well in site
13 planning. I know it's in the county right now,
14 but they are looking at expanding that facility,
15 and I don't want to speak for them out loud, but
16 there is a chance that they would request to
17 annex into the city as well.
18 Of course all this would be a
19 non - residential land use, so it's a good
20 relationship with our B -3 and residential here.
21 The only place where it could
22 be potentially an issue would be down here south
23 of that parcel where it's residential, it's high
24 density attached in the Grande Reserve, so it's
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1 actually transitional when you think about it
2 When you're going from commercial into high
3 density attached, it's not like we are having
4 estate lots backing up to it. So we think that
5 makes a lot of sense.
6 On the north side we have
7 structured it so all the churches are lined up
8 here in our one special use, and we think that's
9 a better relationship to be residential, I know
10 it's not in the city up there, but there are
11 residential homes backing around that property,
12 so we feel that our one special use makes more
13 sense there.
14 When you have R -1 with a county
15 subdivision I'm pretty sure there is not a
16 required buffer, but we are willing to put in a
17 30 -foot landscape buffer along the entire edge
18 anyway.
19 I think that would help give
20 some of those homeowners who would be looking
21 right down into the parking lot, so we would be
22 willing to put a buffer in that area.
23 Plus, I know we are not up for
24 concept plan approval at this time, but we are
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1 saying detention up in those areas and back in
2 there could also be a real nice buffer between
3 residential and our uses.
4 The other thing I will point
5 out -- and then I will open it up for
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8 there is a separation from Kennedy.
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10 either side of the entrance for a couple of
11 reasons. One is as you come in, it will be a
12 real nice presentation for the church to have
13 water on both sides.
14 Also we want to leave it all
15 viewable from Galena so the church has a lot of
16 visibility. It's real important for the church
17 to be seen from a major road.
18 We could ask for commercial on
19 that road, but we would rather have a view into
20 the site so you can see the church.
21 Down on the south side we are
22 held to that access point right there because
23 that is where the Grande Reserve entrance is, at
24 that location, so we line up directly across from
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1 that.
2 So with those two points, the
3 reason I am pointing this out, we actually placed
4 the zoning line division in that area, we want to
5 have connection between those two access points,
6 didn't want a road to go straight through there.
7 You can see we kind of came
8 into this location from the boulevard and church,
9 and you enter the road down through this area
10 there.
11 And the main thing on this,
12 it's important to note is, this road isn't set in
13 stone, you could adjust either way, but the fact
14 is we want circulation through there, and that's
15 going to be the division between B -3 and our R -1
16 use.
17 Over here, again, like I
18 mentioned earlier, we think that makes a lot of
19 sense, nonresidential use, so the zoning line
20 that you see in your zoning plat between B -3 and
21 R -1 special use, actually follows that road,
22 comes up to this point and crosses at that
23 connection right there.
24 The only other thing that I
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1 would point out -- and we don't know the details
2 of engineering at this point, but we do have
3 Scott May from SEC here in case you have any
4 questions on just overall engineering, it's
5 probably premature to get too much into detail,
6 but we have started to look at the overall
7 engineering aspects of this property.
8 One last thing I will mention
9 is the hours of operation, you may wonder about
10 that, and this church basically in the morning is
11 very busy. Also Saturday night they have a lot
12 of services, a lot of people are coming in at
13 that point. And, lastly, on Wednesday night they
14 have a lot of youth programs for children up and
15 through teenager, so there is a fair amount of
16 traffic at Wednesday night.
17 Otherwise, during the week it's
18 obviously pretty low and light, but Wednesday
19 nights, Saturday night and Sunday mornings would
20 be most of the uses.
21 With that, Dave Walker, do you
22 want to say a few words?
23 MR. WALKER: Not unless somebody has
24 some questions about the B -3 issues.
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1 MR. STUEPFERT: So Dave Walker is
2 going to answer any questions, of course, Vince,
3 I'll turn it back over to him, we'll be happy to
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5 MR. ROSANOVA: At this point we
6 would like to answer any questions the public may
7 have.
8 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: At this time I
9 would ask if there are any questions or comments
10 from the audience.
11 WHEREUPON:
12 RAYMOND STEIN,
13 having been first duly sworn, testified before
14 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
15 MR. STEIN: I would just like a
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17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Your name, sir?
18 MR. STEIN: Raymond Stein. What is
19 included in the B -3 zoning?
20 MR. ROSANOVA: The B -3 zoning, there
21 is a whole list of permitted uses in the B -3.
22 It's quite extensive.
23 I would be happy to provide you
24 with a copy of the ordinance, or city staff could
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1 provide him with a copy of the ordinance. This
2 way you could review the B -3 permitted uses.
3 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Travis, do you
4 have some examples of a B -3 use, just to give the
5 audience a clue?
6 MR. MILLER: Sure. B -3, just so you
7 know, there are four separate B, or business,
8 zoning classifications defined in the zoning
9 ordinance; one is the -- starts with the least
10 intense and then the four is the most intense, so
11 three is at the upper scale of intensity of uses.
12 That would include anything
13 from a car wash, drive -in restaurants, golf
14 driving ranges, mini - warehouse storage as a
15 permitted use, things of that nature. Basically
16 it's your typical retail --
17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Multi things.
18 MR. MILLER: Correct. Strip use
19 would be permitted in B -3.
20 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Does that help
21 answer your question?
22 (No Response)
23 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Anything?
24 Anybody else? Yes, sir.
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1 MR. MELODY: Yeah, Mike Melody. I
2 heard the gentleman discussing it, I didn't quite
3 gather what he mentioned about a 30 -foot buffer.
4 If you could go into that a little further. I've
5 got a couple questions.
6 MR. ROSANOVA: This one here is a
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8 proposed church facility and the existing
9 residential development to the north.
10 Pursuant to the City of
11 Yorkville ordinance, when residential abuts
12 residential, there is no requirement for a
13 30 -foot landscape buffer, but the church, this
14 petitioner, thought that that was the responsible
15 thing to do, is provide for a 30 -foot buffer.
16 MR. MELODY: That is not a
17 guarantee?
18 MR. ROSANOVA: Not at this point,
19 but this is what they are proposing.
20 MR. MELODY: Okay. The other thing
21 you had discussed was a proposed tenant for this
22 parcel. Can you disclose that at this time?
23 MR. ROSANOVA: A proposed tenant for
24 this parcel.
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1 MR. MELODY: Oh, for that parcel.
2 MR. ROSANOVA: Right now we are in
3 preliminary contract negotiations with an outfit
4 called The Pillars, which is an assisted living
5 facility, health care facility, of that sort.
6 MR. MELODY: And they are requesting
7 more than the seven?
8 MR. ROSANOVA: Yes.
9 MR. MELODY: By?
10 MR. ROSANOVA: Ten would be optimal.
11 MR. MELODY: Ten would be accurate.
12 MR. ROSANOVA: But we would be
13 resubmitting that when we have a solidified
14 contract, and we will come in and ask for a
15 rezoning pursuant to our preliminary plat.
16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Any other
17 questions?
18 MS. LANGHURST: Betty Langhurst.
19 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Two ladies right
20 in a row here. Go ahead.
21 MS. LANGHURST: May I make a comment
22 or is it just a question?
23 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Your name for
24 the record, please.
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1 WHEREUPON:
2 BETTY LANGHURST,
3 having been first duly sworn, testified before
4 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
5 MS. LANGHURST: Betty Langhurst.
6 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay, Betty.
7 MS. LANGHURST: I live right across
8 the street from -- on Galena Road.
9 MR. ROSANOVA: Right here?
10 MS. LANGHURST: Yes. It will be --
11 I can't exactly tell you, be across from that
12 entrance about in there.
13 MR. ROSANOVA: Somewhere in here?
14 MS. LANGHURST: And this whole thing
15 upsets me greatly. I have lived in my home for
16 about ten years, and to think that two miles to
17 the west of us this whole huge B -3 complex is --
18 or whatever the B zone is, and then property that
19 has been rural now is going to this high B grade
20 strip mall, gas station is what some of the
21 rumors are, with lights on -- when you have B -3,
22 I understand you can have lights on all night
23 long. It changes a residential community.
24 And you said partly because
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1 that little -- that got by us I guess with Grande
2 Reserve.
3 And this is a personal comment:
4 Strip malls are the uglification of America. I
5 mean, this is nothing that belongs in our
6 residential development. And I go on record, I
7 am very unhappy.
8 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Let me just
9 correct one thing that you said. A gas station
10 will not go there because a gas station requires
11 special use zoning, so they would have to come
12 back with that specifically if it were to be a
13 gas station.
14 MS. LANGHURST: Well, see, what I
15 can't understand is we have this park with all
16 the ball diamonds that you have zoned and
17 planned, and now across the street from that you
18 are saying that you are going to have this huge,
19 you know, commercial area, and I just don't
20 understand it.
21 You have young children that
22 will be there, and it's a residential area, and
23 it just doesn't make sense.
24 MR. ROSANOVA: And we are talking
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1 about the commercial development to the west at
2 this point, the two miles -- the one you are
3 depicting.
4 MS. LANGHURST: It's already -- it's
5 there. It's right on 47. Why on a little county
6 road we have to face something like this.
7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank
8 you. The lady right behind you still have a
9 question?
10 MS. JENSEN: Well, I guess now --
11 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Your name,
12 please.
13 WHEREUPON:
14 PAT JENSEN,
15 having been first duly sworn, testified before
16 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
17 MS. JENSEN: Pat Jensen.
18 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay.
19 MS. JENSEN: My first question was
20 regarding the church setting. Did you say at the
21 beginning that the church also -- I mean, I
22 understand what they want as far as the night
23 time and the times that it would be used because
24 that seems like that's about what they are using
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1 their church during those times.
2 Did you also say they were
3 going to be building a school?
4 MR. ROSANOVA: It is our intention
5 at this point that a school facility will be a
6 part of this complex, a church facility school.
7 MS. JENSEN: In that instance then,
8 the times will be a lot different. You will have
9 parents coming and going during the school hours,
10 plus children there, which is -- you know, I have
11 no objections to children or the site, but the
12 comings and goings.
13 With that said then, my other
14 concern is any entrance at all off of Galena Road
15 is a major mistake. There is a curve there.
16 The way it comes -- people come
17 around that curve -- and we have already, even in
18 our rural area, as a rural site there, had cars
19 in people's front yards, in their houses.
20 Now, anything that you do that
21 you are going to be bringing people turning on
22 and off of Galena Road, plus you've got Kennedy,
23 I think you are making a major mistake.
24 MR. ROSANOVA: Dave, would like to
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1 address the comment? Dave Walker.
2 WHEREUPON:
3 DAVE WALKER,
4 having been first duly sworn, testified before
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6 MR. WALKER: Right there at Kennedy
7 and Galena, that is scheduled for a stoplight, so
8 that curve that is now and has been for the 30
9 years I have been in that area, has been and
10 could be construed as dangerous, but with a
11 stoplight going in there, that's going to affect
12 that area greatly.
13 And keep in mind on that west
14 area where you are seeing commercial, it's slated
15 for commercial right across the street on Kennedy
16 to the west there, and it's slated for commercial
17 in the triangular piece straight to the south of
18 that.
19 A commercial area to the
20 southeast over there, it may look -- appear to be
21 a lot of red up here, folks, but the fact of the
22 matter is we have a letter of intent with a good,
23 reputable company that is looking to go in there,
24 and we are talking -- you know, we are talking
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1 about a senior center and rehabilitation center
2 so to speak.
3 So I want to make it kind of
4 clear that we are not talking about driving
5 ranges here and whatever else of a horror story
6 you may be looking at.
7 The reason why for the B -3,
8 they may qualify for a little lesser zoning, but
9 the fact of the matter is we have a bunch of
10 variance issues, so we thought we would go ahead
11 and go in with the B -3 for them folks, so it
12 would meet all their needs there.
13 But The Pillars in that
14 location, that's a huge feather in Yorkville's
15 cap, but that's my opinion, so --
16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Dave, I was
17 going to ask the question later on, but seeing as
18 the subject came up, have you talked with the
19 County Highway Department yet about these
20 accesses?
21 MR. WALKER: Yes, I did speak with
22 Fran. We are real tight with a full access there
23 on Galena, there is no doubt about that. We are
24 a stone's --
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1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: So he has or has
2 not given his blessing here?
3 MR. WALKER: Fran asked me to go
4 back to the city, get their input on that area,
5 but Fran is pretty clear about, you know, the
6 rules that we are to abide by, and we are tight
7 there.
8 We are asking for a full rather
9 than a right -in, right -out at this point in time.
10 It's extremely close, and we thought maybe with
11 the blessing of the city that there may be a
12 workable opportunity there with the city and
13 Fran.
14 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I think a couple
15 other people have some questions, so I think we
16 will come back and talk about this issue later
17 on.
18 MR. WALKER: And we are anticipating
19 on Galena going four lanes someday, too. Fact of
20 the matter is the whole area is growing; there is
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22 from school. We've got a big school to the south
23 there, we've got railroad tracks, you know,
24 things of that nature, so they are all being
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1 addressed.
2 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank
3 you. I believe the lady in the front row,
4 anything?
5 MS. WHITE: I didn't have a
6 question, I have a comment.
7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Just state your
8 name give your comment.
9 WHEREUPON:
10 LINDA WHITE,
11 having been first duly sworn, testified before
12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
13 MS. WHITE: Linda White. I live
14 across the street on Galena Road, and right now
15 when I sit in my sunroom, which I sit in all the
16 time, I see Baumann's field. It's a nice view.
17 I don't want to look at B -3 right from my
18 sunroom. I just think it's too commercial.
19 I am zoned ag, and I'm pretty
20 upset that they want to put any commercial there.
21 I'm not too upset about the church. I don't want
22 no commercial right there in the middle of a nice
23 residential area.
24 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank
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1 you. Yes, sir. Gentleman?
2 WHEREUPON:
3 ALAN RUPERT,
4 having been first duly sworn, testified before
5 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
6 MR. RUPERT: Alan Rupert. I am
7 certain that most of the neighborhood's not
8 concerned with the church and the parking area.
9 Our concern is when they get
10 that commercial, what's to stop the church from
11 throwing out their plans to put a church there,
12 and the whole thing, whole cotton piece, become
13 commercial?
14 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: It would have to
15 come back for rezoning on that to do that. We
16 would have to go through this whole process
17 again.
18 MR. RUPERT: But now with the zoning
19 is it cast in stone that there will be a church
20 there?
21 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: No.
22 MR. WYETH: They could always ask
23 for a zoning change. Any parcel in any community
24 in the nation can ask for a zoning change, so
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1 nothing is ever cast in stone, but as the
2 chairman just said, they would have to come back,
3 all of you given notice again, and you come and
4 say wait a minute, you said there was going to be
5 a church a year ago and now you want to have
6 something else. You would have your chance to
7 object.
8 MR. RUPERT: I'm surprised the
9 church would like commercial property around it.
10 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Gentleman in the
11 very back by the doors?
12 WHEREUPON:
13 PAUL VON HOTEN,
14 having been first duly sworn, testified before
15 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
16 MR. VON HOTEN: Hi. I am Paul Von
17 Hoten. And I was wondering, where is the school
18 site going to be again?
19 MR. ROSANOVA: Connected to the
20 church.
21 MR. VON HOTEN: Connected to the
22 church. And then on the other end -- So this
23 is -- two churches are going to be occupying this
24 now empty field adjacent to us?
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1 MR. ROSANOVA: One church and a
2 school facility.
3 MR. VON HOTEN: Okay. And then --
4 But what does that say, future Cross Lutheran
5 Church expansion there?
6 MR. ROSANOVA: This is not part of
7 our property.
8 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Yes, sir.
9 MR. STEIN: Raymond Stein. I just
10 wondered at the present time if there were any
11 plans of the pushing through of East Highland
12 Drive to Mill Road.
13 MR. ROSANOVA: Phil, are you aware
14 of any plans?
15 MR. STUEPFERT: No plans at this
16 time yet.
17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Lady over here,
18 please?
19 WHEREUPON:
20 MARGARET WHEEZY,
21 having been first duly sworn, testified before
22 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
23 MS. WHEELY: Margaret Wheely. I am
24 the chairman of Cross Lutheran Church, which is
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1 the property -- I don't know if that's west or
2 what it is, but on the right of that board, the
3 south --
4 THE AUDIENCE: East.
5 MS. WHEELY: -- east. Thank you.
6 Presently right now what is
7 located on that site is a day care center, so
8 there is coming and going from 6:00 a.m. until
9 roughly 6:00 p.m.
10 We also do nighttime ministry
11 on that site. We are 100 percent -- As a church,
12 Cross Church, we are 100 percent behind this.
13 Presently we do, for lack of a
14 better term, co- ministry with New Life.. We have
15 been in discussions, different members of each
16 congregation have been in discussions, as far as
17 there is no sense of doing -- reinventing the
18 wheel and doing two things on two sites closely
19 located together, so if they were going to do X,
20 we're going to do Y, that type of thing. So we
21 are 100 percent behind this.
22 The coming and going is already
23 taking place. There's already a day care center
24 there that -- the last number I heard was we have
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2 Part of the expansion for the
3 Cross area, the Cross property, is to expand that
4 day care center.
5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank
6 you. Yes, sir. Right here.
7 MR. MELODY: Mike Melody. I didn't
8 catch Dave's -- Is your name Dave?
9 MR. WALKER: Yeah.
10 MR. MELODY: What is your role with
11 the church?
12 MR. WALKER: I am a member at the
13 church. I develop property. I am helping.
14 MR. MELODY: So you are a developer
15 and member of the church.
16 MR. WALKER: Yes.
17 MR. MELODY: Okay. That's
18 understood. A couple of things. On the -- I am
19 looking at the retention ponds, and I have
20 been on West Highland for 16 years, and I am
21 thinking about the -- correct me if I am wrong,
22 the rainfall of '96, which we got 96 inches --
23 or, I'm sorry, 16 inches, and I'm questioning --
24 I don't have the answer and I don't know if you
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1 as an attorney do either, but just wonder whether
2 the retention is adequate.
3 Also, if that is in stone, the
4 retention areas, you know, if that can be
5 modified or changed once this -- if it is
6 approved approved, and then, you know, I am
7 looking at the B -3 areas as well.
8 And, you know, since we are all
9 here and talking, you know, I do have a little
10 concern that, you know, money talks and are we
11 looking at any -- I hope not with the church
12 pushing this, but, I mean, we -- I am concerned
13 that there might be any forms of adult
14 entertainment, you know, in the neighborhood
15 since you go around Kennedy we do have that, you
16 know, at this point, so --
17 MR. ROSANOVA: That is not in the
18 B -3 zoning area or R -1 zoning area.
19 MR. MELODY: And the retention?
20 MR. STUEPFERT: Scott can answer
21 this, too. Before us tonight, of course, it is
22 just annexation and zoning; however, we put the
23 concept plan out there just to make reference, so
24 it is a general plan. It won't be approved
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1 tonight, it would be recommended for approval
2 only.
3 The detention is about 15 to 20
4 percent of the total area, and there is a good
5 possibility that we could shift some of that
6 around a little bit.
7 MR. MELODY: And that is a concern.
8 MR. STUEPFERT: Yeah. And we are
9 not at that point of final design on that.
10 MR. MELODY: Okay.
11 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Could I call on
12 John Whitehouse to do the standard pitch on the
13 detention, please?
14 John Whitehouse is a.consulting
15 engineer for the city and they review any plans
16 that are done.
17 MR. WHITEHOUSE: I hope I use the
18 right standard pitch tonight.
19 As most of you well remember
20 from a lot of these residents' testimony during
21 the Grande Reserve public hearing four or five
22 years ago that there have always been major
23 drainage areas in Storybook Highlands, mainly
24 because they don't have any stormwater detention
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3 Their streets are very flat,
4 their ditches are very flat, and the water does
5 not move very swiftly throughout their
6 subdivision.
7 I would also caution the
8 engineer, especially because they have not done
9 the design yet, that there are most likely septic
10 systems in the rear yards of those homes that
11 back up to this property, and it is a very
12 granular nature of the soil in this vicinity, and
13 we do not want a retention facility in there
14 that's going to have fluctuating water levels
15 that make the water levels saturated so the
16 septic systems don't function, or which would
17 allow leaching of the septic systems to come into
18 those retention basins, so those are some of the
19 issues.
20 Additionally, as with any other
21 subdivision, any opportunity that the city ever
22 has, it's pretty much standard engineering
23 practice as well as the city's policy, that any
24 opportunity we have in conjunction with new
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1 annexation or new development, if we can help
2 assist adjoining, even unincorporated,
3 neighborhoods in solving drainage issues, we will
4 do what we can to do that.
5 So if there is any particular
6 drainage issue in any one of those areas, we
7 would make sure that these detention facilities,
8 regardless of where they are located, are
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9 designed such that they will not increase any
10 existing problems, and do the best that we can to
11 alleviate them.
12 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank
13 you, John. Other -- Yes, ma'am.
14 MS. JENSEN: Pat Jensen. The
15 retention ponds look nice with the trees and
16 everything all around them, but you've got people
17 backed up there that have small children, and any
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19 children.
20 I don't think that's fair to
21 the community that's there living with their
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1 and everything, but it's not really an advantage
2 for those people.
3 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Any comments
4 from anybody else? Any comments, Vince?
5 (No Response)
6 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Yes, sir.
7 WHEREUPON:
8 BILL WHITE,
9 having been first duly sworn, testified before
10 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
11 MR. WHITE: Bill White. As I am
12 looking at the site, that's approximately 49
13 acres, and it appears that you've got at least 80
14 percent of it under parking lot and commercial.
15 Now, is that stormwater
16 retention going to actually be designed to hold
17 that amount of water, but where is the stormwater
18 retention going to be outletted to?
19 MR. ROSANOVA: Scott? Scott May?
20 WHEREUPON:
21 SCOTT MAY,
22 having been first duly sworn, testified before
23 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
24 MR. MAY: It will be outletted per
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1 the natural drainage of this area as a whole and
2 it will be done per the direction of Yorkville
3 and under their guidance and approval.
4 MR. WHITE: Will that go into the
5 stormwater piping that's going in now on the
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8 MR. MAY: Some of that possibly
9 will.
10 MR. WHITE: Now, right now that
11 24 -inch pipe that's going in now for stormwater
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12 retention is feeding all of Grande Reserve going
13 all the way up to Galena Road on the north, so
14 that's servicing a large, large area. Is that
15 going to hold that much water again?
16 Because you've got 49 acres
17 that is 80 percent under parking lot, but with a
18 commercial site, that's all going to be parking
19 also.
20 MR. MAY: What happens is we have to
21 retain our water on our property and release it
22 slowly through the system, so we are not going to
23 flood anybody out downstream.
24 We will retain whatever we need
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1 to retain for however long we need to retain it.
2 MR. WHITE: But is that running into
3 that 24 -inch, so is everybody else running into
4 it, so how do they -- Where are they going to run
5 that water off, the outlets to that?
6 MR. WHITEHOUSE: If I can interject
7 right here, you are correct, that is serving that
8 entire northern section of Grande Reserve.
9 There is a 36 -inch pipe that is
10 going to outlet across Kennedy Road to the
11 drainage swale in the regional park.
12 There is a very limited release
13 rate, of which the Grande Reserve property does
14 not use up all of that capacity of that pipe with
15 their release rate.
16 The triangular area north of
17 new Mill Road will go into that, and then this
18 development will have to prove that their
19 property is naturally tributary in that
20 direction.
21 We will have to evaluate
22 because this site was not included in the Grande
23 Reserve stormwater calculations, okay?
24 If their water naturally drains
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1 to the southwest, after accounting for any
2 additional storage on this site, they may be
3 required to put in a second discharge pipe that
4 takes it westerly into Blackberry Creek.
5 That will all be evaluated when
6 we get into preliminary and final engineering.
7 MR. WHITE: Most of the water from
8 the west end of that site goes under Galena Road
9 and goes down through the ditch in front of my
10 property.
11 Naturally when we have any
12 large rains at this point, it comes off, goes
13 underneath Galena Road, into my ditch and floods
14 the ditch downstream.
15 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Okay. Which house
16 are you, sir?
17 MR. WHITE: I am at the corner of
18 Kennedy and Galena. It's off -site of the
19 picture.
20 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Right over there a
21 little bit?
22 MR. WHITE: Right by the corner,
23 yes.
24 MS. WHITE: Farmhouse.
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1 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Okay. The other
2 standard policy the city has is that if the
3 natural course of drainage -- and we never let
4 discharges go into highway ditches.
5 If the course of that natural
6 drainage is into a highway ditch and that
7 includes somebody's property that is not in an
8 established creek, we do not allow them to
9 discharge in that direction without either
10 getting an easement to put in a pipe so that your
11 property -- any impact to your property is
12 minimized from surface drainage, or they would
13 have to -- since it's all tributary to Blackberry
14 Creek, that section is tributary to Blackberry
15 Creek west of Galena and the southwest corner is
16 tributary probably to Blackberry Creek west to
17 Kennedy, is that their release rate would be
18 restricted to only that section that's tributary
19 to the southwest, but then all of their site
20 would drain that way, they would just be required
21 to put in a larger detention volume, so their
22 release rate would be no more than what is
23 naturally tributary and naturally discharged.
24 But we would make sure, and I
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1 would encourage you to come back when we are
2 looking at this from a preliminary standpoint and
3 take a better look at the plans, but we will be
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6 MR. WHITE: Now, on the other
7 retention ponds that are in the park at this
8 point, they put in three retention ponds in the
9 new park for Grande Reserve?
10 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Those -- Yes, those
11 are compensatory storage areas --
12 MR. WHITE: Correct.
13 MR. WHITEHOUSE: -- because when
14 they built the baseball fields, they filled in
15 some of the floodplain areas, so they had to
16 compensate one and a half times that fill volume
17 by creating some more.
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21 Blackberry Creek link.
22 MR. WHITE: But doesn't the 36 -inch
23 stormwater pipe dump into that at this point?
24 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Yes, it does. Yes.
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3 they dump into that, will dump into those three
4 ponds and then release into the creek?
5 MR. WHITEHOUSE: And then release
6 into Blackberry Creek. And the purpose of those
7 are wetland basins that provide some water
8 quality because of that water coming to it, it
9 would flow through these wetland basins before it
10 gets to Blackberry Creek.
11 MR. WHITE: And as I walk those, now
12 that they have built those, I don't feel that
13 those are a significant enough height from what I
14 have seen the creek rise to in the 25 years that
15 I have lived there. I have seen that creek come
16 up eight feet.
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17 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Right.
18 MR. WHITE: And I think that they
19 are going to flood over into those when we do
20 have that ten, 20 -year rain.
21 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Yes. Those
22 particular basins are designed so that when
23 Blackberry Creek gets up to its ten -year flood
24 elevation that it does flow over into those
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1 basins. That's the design.
2 The compensatory storage for
3 the floodplain, when it does fill up, they will
4 flow into those basins, from Blackberry Creek
5 into those basins, because it's storage for
6 Blackberry Creek.
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7 MR. WHITE: So what does that do
8 with the inlets going into there for the -- for
9 that large storm sewer that's feeding that whole
10 thing?
11 MR. WHITEHOUSE: The water still
12 comes that way because the elevation of the
13 basins upstream is higher than that elevation
14 downstream, so all the discharge rates for those
15 upper basins are all based on that ten -year flood
16 elevation for Blackberry Creek.
17 And you probably know this
18 because you seem very knowledgeable regarding
19 detention basins, is that Blackberry Creek is a
20 very large watershed that begins way up in Kane
21 County.
22 MR. WHITE: Yes.
23 MR. WHITEHOUSE: And the peak water
24 service elevations for Blackberry Creek happen
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1 probably two days after a rainstorm in the upper
2 reaches of that watershed because of how that
3 watershed contributes.
4 MR. WHITE: Comes down.
5 MR. WHITEHOUSE: If it's the same
6 storm that happens over in Kane and Kendall
7 County, these detention basins in this vicinity
8 will have functions where the discharge water
9 will be gone and down Blackberry Creek before
10 Blackberry Creek raises to that flood stage from
11 all of its upper reaches and then spills into
12 those spaces.
13 MR. WHITE: Another question for
14 you, the church, what was the preliminary design
15 on there for occupancy, occupancy level?
16 MR. ROSANOVA: We haven't reached
17 that stage at this point.
18 MR. WHITE: So you have no idea what
19 the church is -- You've got a square footage of
20 how much parking and stuff designed for it, you
21 should have at least an estimate of what that
22 church is going to hold per occupant.
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24 when we come back for preliminary, we will have
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1 those figures, and you can come back to that
2 meeting at that point, but right now we do not
3 have those numbers.
4 MR. WHITE: And at that time you
5 will have it for the commercial sites, too?
6 MR. ROSANOVA: Yes, we will.
7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I'd like to just
8 comment on that for the public. At this point
9 the developer is asking for annexation and
10 zoning.
11 Then if that is granted, then
12 they move forward and they come back to this
13 group again with a preliminary plan. I believe
14 it --
15 MR. SCHOPPE: It's not a public
16 hearing.
17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: It's not a
18 public hearing, but you are welcome to come and
19 hear what is being said at the preliminary plan
20 stage, and then understand that recommendation
21 goes to City Council. Ultimately then they come
22 back with a final plan, and that goes to Council
23 also.
24 MR. WHITE: And then again -- and I
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1 think everybody here is concerned about it -- why
2 is that going to B -3 instead of a B -2 or a B -3
3 with restrictions since it is in the middle of a
4 completely residential area?
5 MR. ROSANOVA: Well, actually here
6 this is -- this is B -3. If you look at the
7 Comprehensive Plan of the City of Yorkville, this
8 is Kennedy Road, this is Galena and the existing
9 Mill Road.
10 They foresee that this be a
11 commercial area, and we think that B -3 is an
12 appropriate zoning district for this area.
13 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Betty?
14 MS. LANGHURST: Betty Langhurst. As
15 a resident that waits two, three minutes or more
16 to get out on Galena Road now with Caterpillar
17 traffic.
18 I know Cross Lutheran is happy
19 with their 200 children there, but there is high
20 density housing south of Mill Road, commercial
21 developments there, B -3. The traffic conditions
22 will greatly change in our area.
23 There has been a concern about
24 water flow. I am concerned about people,
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1 traffic, in a place that to me doesn't need to be
2 commercial.
3 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Back over here,
4 please.
5 MS. JENSEN: I guess this is for
6 Mr. Walker. What is the plan for the current New
7 Life Church? Are they -- Are you closing that
8 facility?
9 MR. WALKER: Yes. But, again, to
10 give you any kind of time frame right now is
11 almost premature, you know.
12 It's really hard to say when we
13 will be able to have the opportunity to start a
14 church, whether it would be two, three years,
15 four, five years.
16 MS. JENSEN: On this site?
17 MR. WALKER: On that site.
18 MS. JENSEN: So your plan, New
19 Life's plan, is to replace the current facility
20 you have with this facility?
21 MR. WALKER: That's correct.
22 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Did I see a hand
23 over here? Yes, ma'am.
24 WHEREUPON:
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1 PAT STEIN,
2 having been first duly sworn, testified before
3 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
4 MS. STEIN: Pat Stein. More or less
5 to echo what Betty was saying, I'm looking at the
6 past few years, and the development -- we have
7 been in Storybook Highlands now for 30 years, and
8 it just seems to me in terms of roads and
9 highways, we are way -- we've got the cart before
10 the horse.
11 If you look at the new
12 subdivisions, the Grande Reserves, and you see
13 all their nice four -lane throughout the
14 subdivision, in and out, they are all exiting
15 onto two -lane highways, and the amount of
16 congestion that we're creating by not improving
17 the roads first, then go ahead and put in your
18 subdivision, it's incredible.
19 And Mill Road at this point in
20 time, particularly in bad weather, is a joke.
21 You can barely in stormy weather get two cars
22 past each other.
23 The ruts on the side of the
24 road -- We have never allowed our children, who
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1 are now grown, to ride their bicycles along the
2 road, and then you are going to add commercial to
3 that? You know, it's just -- it doesn't make any
4 sense at all.
5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Yes, sir. Right
6 here.
7 WHEREUPON:
8 JOHN LANGHURST,
9 having been first duly sworn, testified before
10 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
11 MR. LANGHURST: John Langhurst. You
12 talked about on your plan you're going to put a
13 four lane through Galena Road.
14 Before this plan goes through,
15 you're going to set them back how many feet? I
16 mean, you've got to have an allowance for --
17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: It's not our
18 plans for Galena. It's not our plans.
19 MR. LANGHURST: You've got to have
20 all the utilities moved out and all that and you
21 are just creating extra work, unless you have a
22 setback along Galena Road.
23 And then you've got commercial
24 places all over the place here, you're going to
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1 have one on this new subdivision on 47 and
2 Galena, and you've got a shopping mall right over
3 here on Mill Road, and you're going to have one
4 on Orchard, you've got Menard's over there.
5 That whole area is going to be
6 filled with commercial buildings or whatever,
7 offices, and I just can't -- The church is fine.
8 I have no problem with the church. It's a good
9 idea.
10 But you are butting up right on
11 Kennedy Road there, to put in commercial
12 buildings there. Like the lady says, she lives
13 right across the street and she doesn't need to
14 be looking at a bunch of cars parked there and
15 whatever, wrappers are flying around, if they
16 have a fast food place or whatever, and that
17 whole section needs to be just shut down, two
18 commercial areas, next to the road.
19 Also the retention ponds, if
20 you put four lanes in there in the future --
21 that's what we've heard -- that creates a
22 problem.
23 What are you going to do, fill
24 them up, tear them out? That's going to create
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1 extra work and a lot of extra expenses.
2 MR. ROSANOVA: At this point, sir --
3 MR. LANGHURST: And that's about it.
4 I mean, I don't mind commercial going in this
5 side, if they want to put them over there, but
6 not along -- right along the housing. That's
7 pretty bad. I'm sorry. Thank you.
8 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: John?
9 MR. WHITEHOUSE: I guess it's
10 probably appropriate now to give the
11 transportation end of my spiel just to fill
12 everybody in in the room as to what's going on
13 because there were some comments regarding the
14 cart before the horse, which is unfortunately
15 always the way it seems to happen.
16 The Grande Reserve annexation
17 agreement provided for the improvements,
18 reconstruction, widening, of all of the
19 preliminary roads to Grande Reserve, including
20 Kennedy, all the way across Bristol Ridge, you
21 know, to -- and in conjunction with another Pulte
22 development all the way to Menard's, Bristol
23 Ridge Road, which has been reconstructed already,
24 and Mill Road, as well as intersection
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1 improvements at Bristol Ridge and 34, which has
2 been accomplished with that light, as well as
3 Kennedy and Galena.
4 With regard to the Grande
5 Reserve perimeter roads, Kennedy Road south of
6 the railroad tracks, from there to Bristol Ridge,
7 will most likely be constructed this year, all at
8 the expense of Grande Reserve. Actually, all of
9 these road improvements are at the expense of
10 Grande Reserve.
11 Mill Road has been scheduled
12 for reconstruction probably in the year 2007, but
13 if this development moves along quicker, then I
14 believe the city would probably -- and I will
15 state for the record that we would want them to
16 contribute via the annexation agreement to the
17 advancing of those Grande Reserve -- or the Mill
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19 The railroad crossing upgrade
20 alone is going to be about $400,000, and the rest
21 of Mill Road is about another mil, two.
22 There will eventually be
23 signals at Galena and Kennedy, and I just want to
24 state for the record that even though there may
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1 be signals there, it's not going to lessen the
2 potential impact of the curve because unless all
3 of you drive like I do, some of you will get a
4 green light if you are eastbound on Kennedy and
5 that curve will be just like it is now, so the
6 stoplight there will really have no impact on the
7 curve.
8 It would be best probably in
9 the long -term if that speed limit was lowered on
10 Galena, but that is under the jurisdiction of the
11 Kendall County Highway Department.
12 There will be a requirement by
13 Kendall County for a 60 -foot half right -of -way on
14 the southeast side of Galena, and prior to this
15 development being approved, prior to that access
16 being approved, so there will not be a need at
17 some future date to fill in any detention basins
18 in order to make a widening improvement to Galena
19 Road.
20 In addition to that 60 -foot
21 half right -of -way, there are statutory
22 requirements from the Illinois statute that
23 regard setbacks of detention basins from pavement
24 such that they are not a danger to the public.
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1 There will be additional
2 right -of -way required on the section of Kennedy
3 Road between Galena and the existing Mill to the
4 tune of about 90 feet from the existing center
5 line to the east, so there is going to be a much
6 larger setback because that section of Kennedy
7 Road between Galena and Mill is going to be
S probably a five -lane section, okay, for that last
9 section or at least three lanes at Mill, at new
10 Mill, and then it's going to widen out to provide
11 a left turn, a right turn, possibly a dual left
12 turn on Galena for future improvements when
13 Galena is widened.
14 So as far as the city's
15 foresight with regard to transportation
16 improvements in this area, not that I am
17 advocating commercial, I'm just saying that from
18 a transportation standpoint, it has been well
19 thought out.
20 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Yes, sir.
21 MR. WHITE: Bill White. Do you know
22 if there is -- still in the long -term plan are
23 considering taking Kennedy Road clear to 30?
24 MR. WHITEHOUSE: That is no longer
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1 in the plans. There had been a plan of extending
2 Gordon Road from the Village of Montgomery down
3 across Blackberry Creek and connecting with
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5 bridge over Blackberry Creek and both communities
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7 committee, you know, requirements or
8 recommendations regarding minimizing crossings,
9 Gordon Road is going to swing west and connect
10 with Cannonball at Galena. It will not be
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12 MR. WHITE: So Gordon Road will turn
13 in and come in by Dixon?
14 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Gordon Road will
15 swing down with a southwesterly swing and come
16 down and hit Galena at Cannonball.
17 Dixon will be cut off short and
18 will come in and T into Gordon before it gets to
19 Galena. And that plan is being advanced.
20 MR. WHITE: Okay. I understand. I
21 understand.
22 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Yes, sir.
23 MR. STEIN: Would it be more
24 feasible to make 30 four -lane rather than Galena?
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1 MR. WHITEHOUSE: They will probably
2 both be. Eventually they will both be.
3 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Any other
4 comments on this development?
5 (No Response)
6 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. I want to
7 move this thing along. We are tending to dwell
8 too long on these. So go ahead, you've got a
9 question?
10 MR. WHITE: Bill White. On the
11 other commercial sites when you went through your
12 concept plans, what was the ideal tenants for
13 those?
14 MR. ROSANOVA: Not determined at
15 this point. Not determined.
16 MR. WHITE: So no determination at
17 all. As far as size for those commercial sites,
18 I see you have the two broke right there at the
19 corner of Kennedy and Galena.
20 MR. ROSANOVA: This is a concept
21 plan. What we are asking for tonight, sir, is a
22 zoning recommendation --
23 MR. WHITE: Of B -3.
24 MR. ROSANOVA: -- of B -3 zoning, and
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1 then we will come in subsequently for a plat
2 approval. We will have more engineering and
3 design and dimensions of each lot laid out at
4 that time.
5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Back of the
6 room.
7 MR. VON HOTEN: Paul Von Hoten. So
8 it looks like if this does go through that the
9 commercial will be developed before the church
10 and school. Is that correct?
11 MR. ROSANOVA: Dave? You can --
12 MR. WALKER: Again, it would only be
13 a guess. My guess is that the southeast would
14 probably be going first --
15 MR. VON HOTEN: And where is the
16 southeast?
17 MR. WALKER: Would be right there,
18 would be my guess, within the next year or so. I
19 don't want to speak for any of those folks.
20 And then we are just now
21 prepared or working on solicitation in that other
22 area so that we can work on getting that plan put
23 together so we are not piecing everything in and
24 everything connects.
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1 So we really have not even
2 solicited that. We need to get a little bit more
3 guidance here.
4 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Is there
5 any other questions that we have not talked
6 about? I don't want to go over things we have
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8 MR. MELODY: Just one final real
9 quick question. Mike Melody. Realistically, a
10 chronological time frame, one year, two years,
11 three years, if it were approved as -is?
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12 MR. ROSANOVA: At this point that
13 would be pure speculation.
14 MR. MELODY: No, I know, but I'm
15 asking the City Council here, the Planning --
16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: That's not ours.
17 We are not the developer.
18 MR. MELODY: Nobody has got a feel
19 for that?
20 MR. ROSANOVA: Mr. Walker?
21 MR. WALKER: Dave Walker. My guess
22 would be, again, when you are dealing with a
23 church facility and that, you know, it comes --
24 it comes down to, you know, with the Lord willing
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1 to some extent.
2 Our feeling is we think that it
3 would be aggressive to be starting a facility
4 within two to three years.
5 MR. MELODY: That would be
6 aggressive?
7 MR. WALKER: It would be aggressive.
8 MR. MELODY: Okay. Thank you.
9 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. One last
10 time, any further questions that we have not
11 talked about?
12 (No Response)
13 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none
14 then, I will move on to public hearing number
15 three, United City of Yorkville will hold and
16 conduct a public hearing before the Plan
17 Commission on April 12, 2006, at 7:00 p.m. in the
18 City Council Chambers, 800 Game Farm Road,
19 Yorkville, Illinois, for purposes of amending its
20 Planned Unit Development ordinance.
21 Travis?
22 WHEREUPON:
23 TRAVIS MILLER,
24 having been first duly sworn, testified before
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1 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
2 MR. MILLER: Sir, in your packet you
3 received a memo from myself dated April 5th that
4 summarizes the staff recommendations. I am going
5 to be going through that summary.
6 Basically staff recommendation
7 before you tonight is to modify the PUD
8 ordinance, which is a portion of the zoning
9 ordinance.
10 The purpose of this
11 recommendation stems from multiple issues, one of
12 those being timing and expense for the petitioner
13 in the case of a PUD application.
14 I understand currently under
15 the PUD ordinance a concept plan is presented,
16 input is given on that, and then subsequent to
17 that a preliminary plan is submitted and
18 approved.
19 It isn't until the preliminary
20 plan is approved that the petitioner has any
21 entitlement in terms of zoning and the actual
22 land use that's being permitted.
23 That preliminary plan requires
24 preliminary engineering, photometrics, and a
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1 pretty high level of detail, which takes time and
2 expense on behalf of the petitioner before
3 getting any approval at all to move forward with
4 the project.
5 Smaller projects may not be an
6 issue, but with the larger projects that we are
7 seeing coming in that becomes more and more of an
8 issue with the petitioners. That's one purpose.
9 The second purpose as I see it
10 from a planning standpoint as I review the
11 current ordinance, this is in my opinion a tool
12 mechanism that would be useful for a petitioner
13 that has a laundry list of variances and things
14 that they are requesting.
15 Rather than coming through with
16 straight zoning and requesting those variances,
17 the PUD can roll that into one as a PUD, granting
18 those variances all at the same time.
19 That's fine, I think the city
20 needs to get something in return for that, and I
21 believe that a true PUD should have, and state
22 guidelines for architectural details should
23 have, should provide attributes in excess of
24 conventional zoning.
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1 So if a petitioner comes in and
2 requests a PUD, it should be above and beyond
3 what a standard straight zoning request would
4 provide.
5 There should be architectural
6 detail, there should be something unique about
7 the project to justify it to be a PUD.
8 Thirdly, from an administration
9 standpoint and just recordkeeping, currently the
10 PUD is treated as a special use to a straight
11 zoning classification, so the zoning map, there
12 is no way to distinguish what has been approved
13 as part of a PUD and what hasn't been without
14 going case -by -case into the files to determine
15 that.
16 As you know, PUD's can vary
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18 separate zoned classification, the Zoning Act
19 would then read each of these as PUD, that would
20 be a zoning classification, that would be
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22 what's a PUD and what has different governances
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1 So from an administration
2 standpoint that would be somewhat easier, so
3 those are the main three reasons for the
4 recommendation.
5 The recommendation that's
6 prepared includes additional language to describe
7 the purpose of the PUD, including a clear
8 statement explaining that the PUD should provide
9 value to the city over and above the conventional
10 zoning district and list attributes that
11 generally should be provided that addresses the
12 purpose of a PUD issue, the changes to procedures
13 for reviewing and approving a PUD given -- with
14 this recommendation, this would be a zoning
15 classification change that would be treated the
16 same way a zoning change is.
17 There would be two public
18 hearings in that conceptual plan process. The
19 conceptual plan essentially becomes a zoning map
20 for that unique piece of property.
21 That's a brief overview as a
22 summary of the recommendations. I'd be happy to
23 answer any questions from citizens at this point.
24 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. We will
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1 come back to this as a committee. Is there
2 comments from the public regarding the proposed
3 change that the city is asking for?
4 (No Response)
5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Hearing
6 none then, I would ask for a motion to close the
7 public hearing.
8 MS. ADAMS: So moved.
9 MR. JONES: Second.
10 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Moved and
11 seconded. Any further discussion on the motion?
12 (No Response)
13 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none,
14 those in favor signify by saying aye.
15 (A Chorus of Ayes)
16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed?
17 (No Response)
18 CHAIRMAN LhNDBLOM: Public hearing
19 is over. The motion passes.
20 (Which were all the
21 proceedings had in
22 the public hearing.)
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10 And that the foregoing is a true and
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assemblage 7:7 Basically 7:8, 7:15, board 14:16, 14:16, 70:17, 70:17
assessed 10:9 8:15, 17:21, 22:10, 38:2 case -by -case 70:14
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assisted 26:4 basins 42:18, 50:7, bottom 8:9 catch 39:8
attached 18:24, 19:3 50:9, 50:22, 51:1, boulevard 21:8 Caterpillar 54:16
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attract 43:18 51:15, 51:19, 52:7, Brestal 13:19 center 32:1, 32:1,
attributes 69:23, 61:17, 61:23 BRIAN 2:8 38:7, 38:23, 39:4,
71:10 Baumann 12:20, bridge 63:5 62:4
AUDIENCE 3:16, 12:21, 12:22, 12:24, brief 5:17, 71:21 certain 35:7
9:19, 23:10, 24:5, 13:23, 13:24, 34:16 bring 5:5 Certified 73:7
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baseball 49:14 63:5, 63:6 cart 56:9, 59:14 71:9, 72:3
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clarification 23:16 completely 54:4 converted 18:4 CUDNEY 4:24, 5:3,
classification 70:11, complex 27:17, 30:6 copies 5:6, 5:7 5:3, 5:11, 10:11, 11:7,
70:18, 70:20, 71:15 Comprehensive copy 5:12, 5:13, 11:22
classifications 24:8 54:7 23:24, 24:1 current 55:6, 55:19,
clear 7:3, 32:4, 33:5, concept 19:24, corner 4:18, 13:9, 69:11
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clue 24:5 concern 30:14, 35:9, Correct 24:18, 28:9, 31:8, 61:2, 61:5, 61:7
co- ministry 38:14 40:10, 41:7, 54:23 39:21, 46:7, 49:12, cut 63:17
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codified 70:21 35:8, 40:12, 54:1, cotton 35:12
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66:23, 66:24, 70:1 configuration 11:2 COUNTY 4:8, 4:20, dangerous 31:10
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comment 3:16, connect 63:9 61:11, 61:13, 73:3 31:3, 32:16, 39:8,
26:21, 28:3, 31:1, Connected 36:19, couple 8:22, 11:11, 39:8, 65:11, 66:21
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68:1 17:5 51:16, 51:19, 51:24, 54:20
committee 63:7, consulting 41:14 52:9, 52:10, 63:3, Department 32:19,
72:1 contains 73:14 63:5, 63:6 61:11
communities 63:5 contiguous 16:7 Cross 15:21, 15:23, depicting 29:3
community 8:19, continuity 15:17 18:11, 37:4, 37:24, depth 7:14
11:9, 11:10, 11:18, contract 13:20, 26:3, 38:12, 39:3, 39:3, describe 71:6
27:23, 35:23, 43:21 26:14 54:18 design 17:8, 41:9,
comp 17:19,17:23 contribute 60:16 crosses 21:22 42:9, 51:1, 52:14,
company 31:23 contributes 52:3 crossing 60:19 65:3
compensate 49:16 conventional 7:22, crossings 63:8 designed 43:9,
compensatory 8:13, 9:4, 69:24, 71:9 CROUCH 2:7 44:16, 50:22, 52:20
49:11, 49:20, 51:2 conversations 16:16 CSR 73:24 detached 8:6, 16:2
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detail 22:5, 69:1, District 4:12, 4:12, dwell 64:7 19:4
70:6 4:14, 13:5, 13:6, estimate 52:21
details 22:1, 69:22 14:9, 16:13, 16:13, evaluate 46:21
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52:7, 61:17, 61:23 ditches 42:4, 48:4 easier 5:8, 71:2 60:22, 64:2
determination 64:16 division 21:4, 21:15 East 15:7, 16:3, everybody 46:3,
determine 70:14 Dixon 63:13, 63:17 18:10, 37:11, 38:4, 54:1, 59:12
determined 64:14, doing 38:17, 38:18, 38:5, 62:5 everyone 7:3, 7:3
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developed 65:9 done 7:12, 7:13, edge 19:17 44:1, 65:23, 65:24
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directly 20:24 driving 24:14, 32:4 entertainment 40:14 extensive 23:22
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discharge 47:3, duly 5:1, 10:2, 10:20, 46:8 extra 5:5, 57:21,
48:9, 51:14, 52:8 13:15, 17:11, 23:13, entitlement 68:21 59:1, 59:1
discharged 48:23 27:3, 29:15, 31:4, entitlements 70:23 extremely 33:10
discharges 48:4 34:11, 35:4, 36:14, entrance 11:21,
disclose 25:22 37:21, 44:9, 44:22, 20:10, 20:23, 27:12,
discussed 25:21 56:2, 57:9, 67:24, 30:14 <F>
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discussions 38:15, duplex 8:3 established 48:8 16:14, 16:17, 18:14,
38:16 during 22:17, 30:1, establishing 70:17 25:8, 26:5, 26:5,
distinguish 70:12 30:9, 41:20 Estate 12:20, 13:23, 30:5, 30:6, 37:2,
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42:13, 55:8, 55:19, five -lane 62:8 future 37:4, 58:20, 54:22
55:20, 66:23, 67:3 flat 42:3, 42:4 61:17, 62:12 green 61:4
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32:9, 33:19 5.0:23, 51:15, 52:10 growing 33:20
fair 22:15, 43:20 floodplain 49:15, <G> grown 57:1
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47:24 flying 58:15 gave 7:23 65:13, 65:18, 66:21
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favor 3:10, 72:14 65:19 generally 9:9, 9:13, guidelines 69:22
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firm 13:18 63:24 grade 27:19 72:13, 72:18, 73:11,
firs 56:17 frame 55:10, 66:10 Grande 15:15, 73:15
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10:2, 10:20, 13:15, 33:5, 33:13 41:21, 45:12, 46:8, hearings 71:18
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19:2, 27:19, 54:19, 61:22, 67:19, 73:1, 43:6, 69:6, 69:8, knowledgeable
69:1 73:9 71:12 51:18
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56:15 59:17, 60:1, 60:9, JENSEN 29:10, 37:17, 58:12
hit 63:16 60:18, 62:12, 62:16 29:14, 29:17, 29:17, laid 65:3
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Yorkville Plan Commission 80
April 12, 2006
lesser 32:8 32:6, 39:19, 40:7, 25:1, 25:1, 25:16, 3:14, 72:6, 72:11,
letter 31:22 40:11, 44:12, 49:2, 25:20, 26:1, 26:6, 72:19
level 52:15, 69:1 49:4, 56:5, 58:14 26:9, 26:11, 39:7, move 12:17, 42:5,
levels 42:14, 42:15 looks 65:8 39:7, 39:10, 39:14, 53:12, 64:7, 67:14,
License 73:24 Lord 66:24 39:17, 40:19, 41:7, 69:3
Life 12:18, 13:21, lot 5:18, 8:16, 8:20, 41:10, 66:8, 66:9, Moved 3:3, 3:5,
14:2, 14:14, 14:15, 9:1, 19:5, 19:21, 66:14, 66:18, 67:5, 57:20, 72:8, 72:10
38:14, 55:7, 55:19 20:15, 21:18, 22:11, 67:8 moves 60:13
light 12:5, 22:18, 22:12, 22:14, 30:8, member 39:12, moving 9:11
60:2, 61:4 31:21, 41:20, 44:14, 39:15 MPI 15:15
lights 27:21, 27:22 45:17, 59:1, 65:3 members 38:15 MS 2:4, 2:5, 2:12,
likely 18:4, 42:9, lots 19:4 memo 68:3 26:18, 26:21, 27:5,
60:7 loud 18:15 Menard 58:4, 59:22 27:7, 27:10, 27:14,
limit 61:9 low 22:18 mention 22:8 28:14, 29:4, 29:10,
limited 46:12 lowered 61:9 mentioned 18:2, 29:17, 29:19, 30:7,
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line 7:9, 20:24, 21:4, Lutheran 15:21, MICHAEL 2:7 38:5, 43:14, 47:24,
21:19, 62:5 15:23, 18:11, 37:4, middle 34:22, 54:3 54:14, 55:5, 55:16,
lined 19:7 37:24, 54:18 Mike 2:11, 10:4, 55:18, 56:4, 72:8
lines 6:14, 6:15 25:1, 39:7, 66:9 Multi 24:17
link 49:21 mil 60:21 multi- family 8:4
list 23:21, 69:13, < M > miles 27:16, 29:2 multiple 68:11
71:10 M. 1:8, 13:14, 73:6, Mill 15:6, 17:1, MURPHY 10:19,
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25:4, 28:1, 29:5, ma'am 43:13, 55:23 54:9, 54:20, 56:19, 12:11
32:8, 40:9, 41:6, main 21:11, 71:3 58:3, 59:24, 60:11, myself 68:3
43:22, 47:21, 66:2 mainly 41:23 60:17, 60:21, 62:3,
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lives 58:12 mall 27:20, 58:2 24:18, 67:23, 68:2 name 5:3, 9:23,
living 26:4, 43:21 malls 28:4 mind 31:13, 59:4 23:17, 26:23, 29:11,
located 13:8, 15:21, map 70:11, 71:19 mini - warehouse 34:8, 39:8
38:7, 38:19, 43:8 Margaret 37:20, 24:14 nation 35:24
location 20:7, 20:24, 37:23 minimized 48:12 natural 45:1, 48:3,
21:8, 32:14 Matt 4:24, 5:3, 9:18, minimizing 63:8 48:5
logical 16:9 10:1, 12:16 ministry 38:10 Naturally 46:19,
long 9:14, 27:23, matter 1:7, 31:22, minute 36:4 46:24, 47:11, 48:23,
46:1, 64:8 32:9, 33:20 minutes 54:15 48:23
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62:22 40:12, 57:16, 59:4 30:23 42:12
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8:16, 17:16,17:19, meet 32:12 modify 4:14, 68:7 58:13, 61:16, 66:2
22:6, 31:20, 34:17, MEETING 1:1, 1:6, money 40:10 needs 32:12, 58:17,
43:15, 49:3, 54:6, 9:14, 53:2 Montgomery 63:2 69:20
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18:14,19:20, 31:23, 10:4, 10:4, 10:14, Motion 3:2, 3:7, neighborhood 35:7,
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Yorkville Plan Commission 81
April 12, 2006
40:14 < O > oral 10:3 Pat 29:14, 29:17,
neighborhoods 43:3 oath 3:22, 73:7 Orchard 58:4 43:14, 56:1, 56:4
net 8:11, 14:24 object 36:7 order 7:13, 7:18, Paul 36:13, 36:16,
New 5:6, 5:9, 5:11, objections 30:11 7:19, 61:18 65:7
5:13, 5:14, 8:2, 8:10, obviously 8:7, 8:24, ordinance 23:24, pavement 61:23
11:1, 11:2, 11:3, 22:18 24:1, 24:9, 25:11, PC 4:5, 12:18
12:18, 13:21, 14:2, occupancy 52:15, 67:20, 68:8, 68:9, peak 51:23
14:14, 14:15, 38:14, 52:15 68:15, 69:11 people 3:15, 11:12,
42:24, 43:1, 46:17, occupant 52:22 original 10:23 11:13, 11:15, 22:12,
49:9, 55:6, 55:18, occupied 15:23, Otherwise 22:17 30:16, 30:19, 30:21,
56:11, 58:1, 62:9 16:2 outfit 26:3 33:15, 43:16, 44:2,
next 58:18, 65:18 occupying 36:23 outlet 46:10 54:24
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34:16, 34:22, 43:15, off -site 47:18 outletted 44:18, 52:22
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night 22:11, 22:13, Okay 9:17, 10:14, overall 22:4, 22:6 38:12, 38:21, 41:4,
22:16, 22:19, 27:22, 12:15, 25:20, 26:16, overview 71:21 44:14, 45:17
29:22 27:6, 29:7, 29:18, owners 13:22 perhaps 15:1
nights 22:19 34:2, 34:24, 37:3, perimeter 60:5
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18:19 72:5 parcel 6:16, 6:17, 13:20, 25:14, 68:12,
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9:12, 12:3, 15:6, 19:8, 19:12, 20:11, parents 30:9 Phil 14:14, 17:4,
15:24, 19:6, 25:9, 22:8, 24:9, 25:6, park 28:15, 46:11, 17:10, 37:13
45:13, 46:16 28:9, 29:2, 37:1, 49:7, 49:9 photometrics 68:24
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note 21:12 69:17 52:20 piecing 65:23
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nothing 6:17, 28:5, 13:6 15:15, 30:6, 37:6, pipe 45:11, 46:9,
36:1 open 20:5 39:2, 70:13 46:14, 47:3, 48:10,
notice 7:11, 36:3 operation 22:9 particular 15:4, 49:23
notify 14:19 opinion 32:15, 69:11 43:5, 50:22 piping 45:5
number 8:8, 8:10, opportunity 16:11, particularly 56:20 pitch 41:12, 41:18
11:13, 12:18, 38:24, 33:12, 42:21, 42:24, parties 14:12 place 18:21, 38:23,
67:14 55:13 partly 27:24 55:1, 57:24, 58:16
numbers 53:3 Opposed 3:12, pass 5:12 placed 21:3
72:16 passes 3:14, 72:19 places 57:24
optimal 26:10 past 56:6, 56:22 Planned 4:9, 4:15,
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Yorkville Plan Commission 82
April 12, 2006
12:9, 28:17, 67:20 prepared 65:21, proposing 25:19 question 9:21,
Planning 14:17, 71:6 prove 46:18 24:21, 26:22, 29:9,
14:17, 17:5, 18:13, present 14:13, 37:10 provide 9:1, 16:9, 29:19, 32:17, 34:6,
66:15, 69:10 presentation 14:18, 16:10, 23:23, 24:1, 52:13, 64:9, 66:9
plans 35:11, 37:11, 17:6, 20:12 25:15, 50:7, 62:10, questioning 39:23
37:14, 37:15, 41:15, presented 68:15 69:23, 70:4, 71:8 questions 3:21,
49:3, 57:18, 57:18, Presently 4:11, 4:13, provided 8:21, 9:15, 9:18, 10:16,
63:1, 64:12 38:6, 38:13 59:17, 71:11 12:13, 17:7, 20:6,
plat 15:2, 21:20, pretty 8:15, 19:15, Public 3:2, 3:6, 4:1, 22:4, 22:24, 23:2,
26:15, 65:1 22:18, 33:5, 34:19, 8:17, 23:6, 41:21, 23:4, 23:6, 23:9,
please 9:20, 10:17, 42:22, 59:7, 69:1 53:8, 53:15, 53:18, 25:5, 26:17, 33:15,
26:24, 29:12, 37:18, previous 6:11 61:24, 67:14, 67:16, 66:5, 67:10, 71:23
41:13, 55:4 prior 42:2, 61:14, 71:17, 72:2, 72:7, quick 9:21, 66:9
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20:7, 20:22, 21:22, problems 43:10 70:22, 71:7, 71:8, 16:12, 16:21, 19:14,
22:1, 22:13, 23:5, procedures 71:12 71:12, 71:13 21:15, 21:21, 40:18
30:5, 33:9, 41:9, PROCEEDINGS 1:6, Pulte 4:5, 5:4, 59:21 R -2 4:13
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66:12, 71:23 71:18 purpose 50:6, 68:10, 60:19
pointing 21:3 programs 22:14 69:8, 69:9, 71:7,- rain 50:20
points 21:2, 21:5 project 5:19, 5:23, 71:12 rainfall 39:22
policy 42:23, 48:2 5:24, 9:19, 69:4, 70:7 purposes 15:11, rains 47:12
ponds 20:9, 39:19, projects 69:5, 69:6 67:19 rainstorm 52:1
43:15, 49:7, 49:8, properties 49:5 Pursuant 25:10, raise 3:17
50:4, 58:19 property 4:16, 4:17, 26:15 raises 52:10
portion 7:2, 9:7, 6:8, 10:8, 10:9, pushed 7:16, 7:17 ranges 24:14, 32:5
10:24, 14:22, 68:8 10:11, 10:13, 13:7, pushing 37:11, rate 46:13, 46:15,
positive 16:10 13:23, 14:4, 14:10, 40:12 48:17, 48:22
possibility 41:5 14:22, 14:24, 15:3, put 16:14, 19:16, rates 51:14
possibly 45:8, 62:11 15:6, 15:13, 16:6, 19:22, 34:20, 35:11, Rather 20:19, 33:8,
potential 61:2 16:8, 19:11, 22:7, 40:22, 42:1, 47:3, 63:24, 69:15
potentially 18:22 27:18, 36:9, 37:7, 48:10, 48:21, 49:8, Raymond 23:12,
practice 42:23 38:1, 39:3, 39:13, 56:17, 57:12, 58:11, 23:18, 37:9
preliminary 6:22, 42:11, 45:21, 46:13, 58:20, 59:5, 65:22 reached 52:16
15:2, 26:3, 26:15, 46:19, 47:10, 48:7, reaches 52:2, 52:11
47:6, 49:2, 52:14, 48:11, 48:11, 71:20 read 70:19
52:24, 53:13, 53:19, proposal 17:2 <Q> real 4:16, 4:17, 13:7,
59:19, 68:17, 68:19, propose 16:23 quadrant 14:5, 20:2, 20:12, 20:16,
68:23, 68:24 proposed 6:11, 14:10, 15:12, 15:16 32:22, 66:8
premature 22:5, 15:18, 16:13, 25:8, qualify 32:8 Realistically 66:9
55:11 25:21, 25:23, 72:2 quality 50:8 really 8:22, 9:9, 9:15,
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Yorkville Plan Commission 83
April 12, 2006
44:1, 55:12, 61:6, represent 13:19 retain 45:21, 45:24, 35:6, 35:18, 36:8
66:1 reputable 31:23 46:1, 46:1 rural 27:19, 30:18,
rear 42:10 request 15:2, 18:16, retention 39:19, 30:18
reason 21:3, 32:7 70:3 40:2, 40:4, 40:19, ruts 56:23
reasons 11:11, requesting 4:8, 4:10, 42:13, 42:18, 43:15,
20:11, 71:3 13:2, 14:8, 17:22, 44:16, 44:18, 45:12,
received 68:3 26:6, 69:14, 69:16 49:7, 49:8, 58:19 <S>
recognize 3:24 requests 70:2 return 69:20 sales 9:2
recommendation require 63:4 revenue 9:2, 9:7 SANDRA 2:4
53:20, 64:22, 68:6, required 19:16, review 24:2, 41:15, saturated 42:15
68:11, 71:4, 71:5, 47:3, 48:20, 62:2 69:10 Saturday 22:11,
71:14 requirement 25:12, reviewing 71:13 22:19
recommendations 42:2, 61:12 rezoning 4:10, 13:3, saying 3:10, 6:12,
63:8, 68:4, 71:22 requirements 61:22, 15:3, 26:15, 35:15 20:1, 28:18, 56:5,
recommended 41:1 63:7 ride 57:1 62:17, 72:14
reconfiguration 9:10 requires 28:10, Ridge 59:20, 59:23, says 8:9, 58:12, 73:7
reconstructed 59:23 68:23 60:1, 60:6 scale 24:11
reconstruction requiring 14:23 right -in 33:9 scheduled 31:7,
59:18, 60:12 Reserve 15:16, right -of -way 61:13, 60:11
record 4:21, 26:24, 18:24, 20:23, 28:2, 61:21, 62:2 SCHILLINGER 2:8
28:6, 60:15, 60:24 41:21, 45:12, 46:8, right -out 33:9 school 14:6, 16:17,
recordkeeping 70:9 46:13, 46:23, 49:9, rise 50:14 30:3, 30:5, 30:6,
red 31:21 50:2, 59:16, 59:19, roads 56:8, 56:17, 30:9, 33:22, 33:22,
reduced 9:5 60:5, 60:8, 60:10, 59:19, 60:5 36:17, 37:2, 65:10
reducing 7:21 60:17 role 39:10 schools 9:5, 9:8
reduction 8:11 Reserves 56:12 roll 69:17 SCHOPPE 2:11,
reference 40:23 Residence 4:12, room 59:12, 65:6 53:15
regard 49:4, 60:4, 4:14, 13:6 ROSANOVA 13:14, SCOTT 22:3, 40:20,
61:23, 62:15 resident 54:15 13:17, 13:18, 23:5, 44:19, 44:19, 44:21
regarding 17:7, residential 15:20, 23:20, 25:6, 25:18, SEC 14:17, 17:4,
29:20, 51:18, 59:13, 16:2, 18:20, 18:23, 25:23, 26:2, 26:8, 22:3
63:8, 72:2 19:9, 19:11, 20:3, 26:10, 26:12, 27:9, Second 3:4, 12:22,
regardless 43:8 25:9, 25:11, 25:12, 27:13, 28:24, 30:4, 14:1, 47:3, 69:9, 72:9
region 17:21 27:23, 28:6, 28:22, 30:24, 36:19, 37:1, seconded 3:6, 72:11
regional 46:11 34:23, 54:4 37:6, 37:13, 40:17, section 7:9, 7:16,
rehabilitation 32:1 residents 41:20 44:19, 52:16, 52:23, 46:8, 48:14, 48:18,
reinventing 38:17 residing 11:13 53:6, 54:5, 59:2, 58:17, 62:2, 62:6,
relationship 18:20, Response 3:8, 3:13, 64:14, 64:20, 64:24, 62:8, 62:9
19:9 12:14, 24:22, 44:5, 65:11, 66:12, 66:20 seeing 31:14, 32:17,
release 45:21, 64:5, 67:12, 72:4, roughly 38:9 69:7
46:12, 46:15, 48:17, 72:12, 72:17 Route 4:19, 6:8 seem 51:18
48:22, 50:4, 50:5 responsible 25:14 row 26:20, 34:3 seems 29:24, 56:8,
religious 14:6, 16:17 rest 60:20 rules 33:6 59:15
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replace 55:19 restricted 48:18 run 46:4 50:15
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reported 73:10 resubmitting 26:13 runs 7:9 senior 32:1
Reporter 73:8 retail 6:7, 24:16 RUPERT 35:3, 35:6, sense 17:24, 18:6,
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Yorkville Plan Commission 84
April 12, 2006
19:5, 19:13, 21:19, 55:16, 55:17 Sr 12:23, 13:24 56:7
28:23, 38:17, 57:4 sites 38:18, 53:5, ss 73:2 straight 21:6, 31:17,
sensitive 63:6 64:11, 64:17 staff 16:16, 23:24, 69:16, 70:3, 70:10,
separate 24:7, 70:18 sitting 14:13 68:4, 68:6 70:23
separation 20:8 size 64:17 stage 52:10, 52:17, street 27:8, 28:17,
September 6:2, 6:3 slated 31:14, 31:16 53:20 31:15, 34:14, 58:13
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42:17 small 43:17 standard 41:12, Strip 6:10, 24:18,
Service 4:11, 13:5, Smaller 5:7, 69:5 41:18, 42:22, 48:2, 27:20, 28:4
14:9, 51:24 soil 42:12 70:3 strong 8:23
services 8:21, 22:12 solicitation 65:21 standpoint 49:2, structured 19:7
servicing 45:14 solicited 66:2 62:18, 69:10, 70:9, student 9:5
serving 46:7 solidified 26:13 71:2 studies 11:8, 11:16
set 21:12, 57:15, solving 43:3 start 6:12, 55:13 STUEPFERT 14:15,
73:16 somebody 22:23, started 5:16, 22:6 17:4, 17:10, 17:13,
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setbacks 61:23 someday 33:19 starts 24:9 41:8
setting 29:20 somewhat 71:2 State 34:7, 60:15, stuff 52:20
seven 26:7 Somewhere 27:13 60:24, 69:21, 73:1, subdivision 19:15,
sewer 51:9 soon 60:18 73:8 42:1, 42:6, 42:21,
shift 41:5 sorry 9:22, 39:23, statement 71:8 56:14, 56:18, 58:1
shopping 58:2 59:7 station 27:20, 28:9, subdivisions 56:12
short 63:17 sort 26:5 28:10, 28:13 subject 13:22, 32:18
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73:10, 73:13 10:24, 12:1, 18:8, statutory 61:21 subsequent 68:16
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shut 58:17 60:5 23:18, 23:18, 37:9, sufficient 11:5
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56:23, 59:5, 61:14 31:20, 61:14, 65:13, stems 68:11 71:22
sides 20:13 65:16 stone 21:13, 32:24, summer 5:19
signals 60:23, 61:1 southern 14:9 35:19, 36:1, 40:3 Sunday 22:19
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signify 3:10, 72:14 48:15, 48:19 stoplight 11:23, 34:18
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8:6, 16:2, 16:4 spaces 52:12 stoplights 11:20 surprised 36:8
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64:21, 68:2 specifically 28:12 stormwater 41:24, 63:15
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site 18:12, 20:20, speed 61:9 45:11, 46:23, 49:23, 10:2, 10:20, 13:15,
30:11, 30:18, 36:18, spent 5:18, 5:20 50:1 17:11, 23:13, 27:3,
38:7, 38:11, 44:12, spiel 3:18, 59:11 stormy 56:21 29:15, 31:4, 34:11,
45:18, 46:22, 47:2, spills 52:11 story 32:5 35:4, 36:14, 37:21,
47:8, 48:19, 50:2, square 52:19 Storybook 41:23, 44:9, 44:22, 56:2,
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Yorkville Plan Commission 85
April 12, 2006
57:9, 67:24, 73:7 66:11, 67:4, 71:3 Two 7:7, 8:1, 11:1, using 29:24
system 45:22 throughout 42:5, 11:17, 21:2, 21:5, utilities 16:10, 57:20
systems 42:10, 56:13 26:19, 27:16, 29:2,
42:16, 42:17 throwing 35:11 36:23, 38:18, 38:18,
tight 32:22, 33:6 52:1, 56:21, 58:17, <V>
timing 68:12 60:21, 64:18, 66:10, value 71:9
<T> together 38:19, 67:4, 71:17 variance 32:10
talked 8:17, 32:18, 65:23 two -lane 56:15 variances 69:13,
57:12, 66:5, 66:7, TOM 2:2 type 38:20 69:16, 69:18
67:11 Tonight 5:17, 7:1, typical 24:16 vary 70:16
talks 40:10 14:12, 14:19, 40:21, versus 8:10
tax 9:2, 9:6 41:1, 41:18, 64:21, via 60:16
taxed 10:7, 10:8, 68:7 <U> vicinity 42:12, 52:7
10:9, 10:9, 10:12 tool 69:11 uglification 28:4 view 20:19, 34:16
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Depo Court Reporting Service
(630) 983 -0030
Yorkville Plan Commission 86
April 12, 2006
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