Plan Commission Minutes 2006 06-14-06 APPROVED BY THE
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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE ors:
PLAN COMMISSION
YORKVILLE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 14, 2006
Chairman Tom Lindblom called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Charles Kraupner, Clarence Holdiman, Anne Lucietto, Bill Davis,
Sandra Adams, Michael Crouch and Tom Lindblom. Member absent: Jack Jones, Brian
Schillinger.
A quorum was established.
CITY STAFF AND GUESTS
Mayor Art Prochaska; City Attorney John Wyeth; Community Development Director
Travis Miller; Interim City Administrator John Crois; Lynn Dubajic, YEDC; consulting
engineer John Whitehouse, Engineering Enterprises, Inc.; attorney Kevin Carrara, Rathje
& Woodward, LLC; attorney Dan Kramer; and Tony Scott, Kendall County Record.
Also, see attached sign -in sheet.
MINUTES
Minutes from the Feb. 8, 2006 meeting were approved. Charles Kraupner made the
motion to approve the minutes. Clarence Holdiman seconded the motion. The motion was
unanimously approved by voice vote.
Minutes from the April 26, 2006 meeting were approved. Kraupner made the motion to
approve the minutes. Sandra Adams seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously
approved by voice vote.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Adams made a motion to open the public hearings. Holdiman seconded the motion. The
motion was unanimously approved by voice vote.
Chairman Lindblom swore in those who intended to speak at the hearing.
1. PC 2006 -05 Bristol Ridge, LLC, petitioners, have filed an application with the city to
annex and rezone. See attached.
2. PC 2006 -33 Atwell- Hicks, petitioners, have filed an application with the city to
rezone. See attached.
3. PC 2006 -22 Richard Marker Associates, Inc., petitioners, have filed an application
with the city to annex and rezone. See attached.
Lucietto made a motion to continue the public hearing to the June 28 meeting. Adams
seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote.
Lucietto made a motion to close the public hearings. Adams seconded the motion. The
motion was unanimously approved by voice vote.
NEW BUSINESS
1. PC 2006 -05 Bristol Ridge, LLC, petitioners request to annex and rezone.
Lindblom said he's concerned about the name of the subdivision. Because it isn't located
on Bristol Ridge Road, there could be problems with emergency crews responding to any
calls located in the subdivision.
Attorney Kevin Carrara, representing the petitioners, said the name would change before
its final stage. The name was left as is now to avoid any confusion when discussing the
project.
Until property to the west develops, the residents in this proposed subdivision would
come and go on Cannonball Trail, Lindblom said. Carrara said several temporary
accesses would be located in the subdivision and an emergency —only access would go
toward Corneils Road.
Consulting Engineering John Whitehouse from Engineering Enterprises, Inc., said Lot
136 should be considered for emergency access so it's not on a cul -de -sac. Carrara agreed
to make that change.
Since the preliminary plan is up for consideration, Lucietto asked what developmental
plans are for the surrounding property. Carrara said he doesn't know what's planned for
the west, but he said the developer would make sure all road connections lined up.
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Community Development Director Travis Miller said the staff reviews on the project
were O.K.
Carrara said there are some outstanding engineering issues and the developer is working
with Whitehouse on them.
Whitehouse said his firm is as concerned as everyone seems to be about the volume of
traffic on Corneils Road. Because this property comes off Route 47 and it shouldn't
impact Corneils Road, he said.
Michael Crouch said he's concerned about the volume of traffic on the west side of the
development on Cannonball Trail. The plan dumps 167 lots out one entrance, he said.
Carrara said the development unfortunately is landlocked and there aren't a lot of options.
Tim Sjogren with Metro Transportation Group said the concern is legitimate. However,
the traffic won't be that heavy and another cut onto Cannonball Trail won't help, he said.
The anticipated wait at the intersection during busy times is expected to be on the good
side of the target, he added.
Whitehouse said the findings are correct in his opinion. It'll be easier to get onto
Cannonball Trail than it would be to go through town, he added.
Whitehouse also said Cannonball Trail is a county road. The two entrances proposed in
the development would require variances from the Kendall County. The county requires
1,760 feet between full access intersections and the two cuts in this proposal are about
1,300 feet apart. Sjogren said the county mostly seems concerned about turn lanes.
Lucietto made a motion to recommend annexation approval for PC 2006 -05. Crouch
seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. Kraupner,
Holdiman, Lucietto, Bill Davis, Adams, Crouch and Lindblom voted yes.
Lucietto then made a motion to recommend zoning approval for PC 2006 -05 as
requested. Kraupner seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll
call vote. Holdiman, Lucietto, Davis, Adams, Crouch, Kraupner and Lindblom voted yes.
Lucietto made a motion to recommend approval of the preliminary plan for PC 2006 -05
subject to staff comments. The motion was approved in a 5 -2 roll call vote. Lucietto,
Davis, Adams, Holdiman and Lindblom voted yes. Kraupner and Crouch voted no.
2. PC 2006 -33 Atwell -Hicks petitioners request to rezone.
Lindblom said he was surprised to see site plan. Because it wasn't included in the Plan
Commissioners' packets, he didn't realize the commission was expected to vote on the
preliminary plan. He asked that the staff be clearer when preparing the agendas.
Kraupner asked if the planned Wal -Mart Supercenter would include a gas station as well.
Paul Bertie, with Atwell- Hicks, representing Wal -Mart, said they're not requesting that
use at this time.
Davis asked what the screening for bulk items stored outside would look like. A sampling
of the layered mesh material will be provided at the next meeting.
Crouch said he's concerned about traffic. Other than the U.S. Post Office, there isn't
much on that road. But as the area builds out there will be more traffic and it would fall
on the city to make the improvements.
Whitehouse said that the road was designed to handle the traffic from the proposed
development and other future ones.
Crouch made a motion to recommend rezoning approval for PC 2006 -33 as requested.
Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved in a roll call vote.
Davis, Adams, Crouch, Kraupner, Holdiman, Lucietto and Lindblom voted yes.
Lucietto made a motion to recommend approval of the preliminary plat for PC 2006 -33
as requested. Kraupner seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved in a
roll call vote. Adams, Crouch, Kraupner, Holdiman, Lucietto, Davis and Lindblom voted
yes.
Lucietto then made a motion to recommend approval of the preliminary plan for PC
2006 -33 subject to staff comments. Davis seconded the motion. The motion was
approved in a 4 -3 roll call vote. Crouch, Kraupner, Holdiman and Lindblom voted yes.
Lucietto, Davis and Adams voted no.
3. PC 2006 -22 Richard Marker and Associates petition to annex and rezone.
This item was continued in the public hearing portion so there was no action to be taken
in regular business.
4. PC 2006 -27 Matlock Mile and a half review.
Attorney Dan Kramer, representing the petitioner Mrs. Joanne Matlock, said the proposed
development is on the north east side of Route 71.
Kramer said it took a long time getting the release from the U.S. Department of
Agriculture to develop the property. There is a pond that is being preserved and a cattle
crossing under Route 71 being preserved also. The question involved potential wetlands
in another area of the property. It was determined that area wasn't a wetland after all.
He said the petitioner is asking the Plan Commission for a positive recommendation for
the zoning change. The proposed development is for 10 lots on 17 acres. The minimum
lot would be 30,000 square feet.
Also, he said the tree line along the property next to the Dave Matlock farm would
remain intact.
Although the development is conforming to a conservation design, Kramer said it would
put in sidewalks. If possible, the development would annex and hook up to the city's
water. The nature of the development, however, is better suited for septic so there
wouldn't be the potential for future hook up to sanitary services.
Kraupner made a motion to recommend approval of the mile and a half review for PC
2006 -27. Davis seconded the motion. The motion was approved in a 6 -0 -1 roll call vote.
Kraupner, Holdiman, Davis, Adams Crouch and Lindblom voted yes. Lucietto abstained.
Lucietto made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:50 p.m. Crouch seconded the motion.
The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote.
Minutes respectfully submitted by Dina Gipe.
PLAN COMMISSION MEETING
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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE, ILLINOIS
REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS had at the meeting
of the above - entitled matter taken before
CHRISTINE M. VITOSH, C.S.R., on June 14, 2006, at
the hour of 7:00 p.m., at 800 Game Farm Road, in
the City of Yorkville, Illinois.
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1 P R E S E N T:
2 MR. TOM LINDBLOM, Chairman;
3 MR. CLARENCE HOLDIMAN;
4 MS. SANDRA ADAMS;
5 MS. ANNE LUCIETTO;
6 MR. BILL DAVIS;
7 MR. CHARLES KRAUPNER;
8 MR. MICHAEL CROUCH;
9 MR. BRIAN SCHILLINGER;
10 MR. JACK JONES;
11 MR. TRAVIS MILLER;
12 MS. DINA GIPE.
13 A P P E A R A N C E S:
14 MR. JOHN JUSTIN WYETH, Counsel,
appeared on behalf of the United
15 City of Yorkville, Illinois.
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1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Could I have a
2 motion to commence the public hearing?
3 MS. ADAMS: So moved.
4 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second.
5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Moved and
6 seconded. Further discussion on the motion?
7 (No Response)
8 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none,
9 those in favor signify by saying aye.
10 (A Chorus of Ayes)
11 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed?
12 (No Response)
13 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Motion passes.
14 Ladies and gentlemen, the one
15 thing I forgot to mention when I addressed you a
16 few minutes ago, if you even think you are going
17 to have a question or a concern tonight, would
18 you please stand at this time and recite the oath
19 with me, please?
20 If you don't -- If you are not
21 sworn in, I can't allow you to speak tonight, so
22 if you even think you are going to, please stand
23 up. It's relatively painless.
24 (Witnesses sworn)
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1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Public hearing
2 number one is for PC 2006 -05, Bristol Ridge, LLC,
3 petitioners, have filed an application with the
4 United City of Yorkville, Kendall County,
5 Illinois, requesting annexation to the United
6 City of Yorkville and rezoning from Kendall
7 County A -1 to United City of Yorkville containing
8 R -2 One - Family Residence District and R -3 General
9 Residence District.
10 The real property consists of
11 approximately 190 acres east and west of
12 Cannonball Trail, approximately one quarter mile
13 south of Galena Road, in Kendall County,
14 Illinois.
15 And at this time who is
16 speaking for the petitioner?
17 WHEREUPON:
18 KEVIN CARRARA,
19 having been first duly sworn, testified before
20 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
21 MR. CARRARA: Good evening,
22 Mr. Chairman. My name is Kevin Carrara. I
23 represent the petitioner, Bristol Ridge, LLC.
24 As a way of helping this
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1 evening, we are just kind of passing around a
2 smaller version of your large plans that you
3 received, so it may be a little easier than
4 unfolding your big ones, and we will also be
5 having a Power Point presentation to kind of work
6 through the progression of this development.
7 Initially, just to orient all
8 the Commissioners, what you have up on the screen
9 right now is the zoning. This kind of gives you
10 an overall picture of where our subject site is
11 located.
12 We are just east of Route 47,
13 south of Galena Road, north of the train tracks
14 that run through Bristol, and north of the --
15 northeast of the town of Bristol.
16 The next general slide we have
17 is a slide that when we start our land plan that
18 you see in front of you is a slide that we use to
19 kind of initially use as our guidepost for
20 layouts.
21 Generally what that is, the red
22 X's are the high points on the property, and then
23 you have the lower depressions, which are the
24 brown X's that Rich is circling for me, and then
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1 you have generally the flow, the natural flow, of
2 the water as shown by the blue arrows, so that's
3 generally where we are going to try to put our
4 detention. You'll see that reference on our
5 plan.
6 And then you've got the ridge
7 lines, which is going to help us decide which way
8 the water is flowing as part of our base land
9 plan.
10 This land plan that you see
11 right in front of you is the plan that we just
12 passed out, and I will stop and briefly mention
13 we also passed out an eight and a half by 11
14 sketch, purely a rough sketch. That was asked of
15 us I believe at the concept meeting, if we could
16 kind of show how those road stubs over on the
17 eastern parcel would possibly work for a future
18 development if that development came into
19 planning.
20 So that just kind of helps show
21 that we are anticipating future development with
22 those road stubs.
23 As you can see, and as was
24 briefly mentioned by the Chairman, we have a
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1 190 -acre parcel. Out of that parcel we have a
2 single- family component of 271 units, we have a
3 townhome component of 57 units and a duplex
4 component of 92 units, for a total of 420 units.
5 The reason we have these three
6 units or three different types of products is we
7 want to provide a diverse set of housing options
8 for the city. We just didn't want to have all
9 single- family.
10 We feel that there is some
11 planning characteristics that we can go into a
12 little bit further as to why we have laid out the
13 plan specifically.
14 This is just the west side of
15 the road. We'll concentrate on that because
16 there is primarily only single- family residences
17 on this side.
18 We have average lot sizes on
19 all our single - family of 14,270 square feet, but
20 there is some additional characteristics on the
21 left side of -- or the west side of Cannonball
22 Trail that we would like to point out, and these
23 are some things that through our initial meetings
24 with the Plan Commission, as well from concept
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1 and staff, we've kind of come up with the plan we
2 have here today.
3 As you can see, we've got an
4 eight -inch -- or eight -inch -- excuse me,
5 eight -foot trail along the north side of our
6 detention basin, which at some point we'll assume
7 will connect to the regional detention system,
8 which we know is still in process with the
9 Bristol Way planning. That allows for
10 continuation of a trail system to the north.
11 Then we also have -- on the
12 south we have another eight -foot bike trail or
13 pedestrian trail coming out of the subdivision
14 which connects up to the other side of what we
15 think is going to be the regional bike path which
16 will go along Cannonball Trail.
17 Another aspect of the bike path
18 or pedestrian path that we have itself is there
19 was some concern as to how would some of these
20 people in this subdivision be able to access the
21 school site that was in Bristol, so that's the
22 reason we allowed that.
23 If people wanted to walk to and
24 from school, they would be able to walk right
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1 through our pathway system and continue down to
2 the school.
3 So that was one of the planning
4 points that we had on that side, as well as
5 with -- with some staff comments we designed more
6 of a curvilinear path.
7 As you can see, the roadway,
8 it's not a standard lot grid area where you've
9 got a bunch of straight lines, it's kind of a
10 curving, meandering path system for the roads,
11 and then we feel a very nice or dense landscape
12 feature along Cannonball Trail to help buffer
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14 expansion in the future.
15 We will have a nice landscape
16 buffer along that area, in addition to the
17 detention buffering areas to the south side.
18 Now we're going to jump to the
19 east side of Cannonball Trail. You can see that
20 eight -foot trail that we had coming from the
21 other side is connecting to the west -- to the
22 east side here, and it goes all the way to the
23 far east side of our property.
24 Again the reason for that was
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1 for future planning. Should that property to the
2 east ever develop, that would allow a connection
3 point for that pathway to lead over to the
4 regional park, which is just on the other side of
5 the -- I think it is -- Blackberry Creek is its
6 proper name. That allows, you know, these people
7 to get over to the regional park.
8 This townhome portion, what we
9 have coming off of the property to the north of
10 us, is a dense townhome project that was already
11 approved through the city, so we used this as a
12 natural buffering point to our single- family
13 residences, and you see we've also incorporated a
14 6.1 acre park with the requisite pulled in
15 parking spaces that the parks department asked
16 that we provide.
17 And then one more slide, and
18 then we go to the south side, which is again the
19 east side, but south side, and you see the
20 yellow- shaded square there represents the
21 additional single- family residences that we will
22 have on the east side of Cannonball Trail, which
23 then transitions down to our pink shaded or mauve
24 shaded colors, which are our duplex lots.
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1 And, again, the reason for this
2 progression is to the north we've got townhomes,
3 we want to try to buffer those with single
4 family, then to the south we've tried to elongate
5 our detention area to try to buffer as much of
6 the industrial M -3, which is south of the train
7 tracks, and then we've also kind of tapered our
8 detention area to give it more of an attractive
9 area along Cannonball Trail there, just briefly
10 abuts some commercial property along the
11 Cannonball Trail aspects.
12 And I do want to mention again
13 here, at one point there was a comment from
14 staff, or maybe even some of the commissioners,
15 as to did we ever approach that old farmstead
16 that's along Cannonball Trail to see if they
17 would be interested to selling to us so we can
18 kind of better plan for that, and we have
19 contacted the resident who lives there and she
20 was very emphatic that she will be there until
21 she dies and had no interest in selling to us,
22 she thanked us and we thanked her for her time,
23 and didn't want to offend her anymore and we
24 stopped conversations from that point.
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1 But you can see we did
2 anticipate that at some point if she should
3 change her mind or does want to sell in the
4 future, we have stubbed a street there to allow
5 for future development because it's our
6 understanding that the city wants to prevent any
7 future access points off of Cannonball Trail, so
8 should that develop in the future, they would
9 probably like to keep the access off of
10 Cannonball Trail and keep it on the inside of the
11 interior of the subdivision, so we have planned
12 for that with that stub street that goes into the
13 side of our property.
14 Again, we're just going to go
15 back to the overall picture of the site plan that
16 we have.
17 Again, we feel that the three
18 types of products, the single- family, the
19 townhouse and the duplex, provide us a variety of
20 housing products for the city, as well as for the
21 future residents.
22 We do comply with the
23 Comprehensive Plan. We are under the density.
24 Our density is 2.2, the density in the plan is
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1 2.5, so we are under that density, so we're
2 not -- Again, like I said, our average square
3 foot on single- family houses are 14,270 square
4 feet. We are not trying to pack in a bunch of
5 small lots.
6 And, again, we feel we have
7 provided a 6.1 acre park, which is a nice
8 entrance monument to the east side of the road,
9 as well as we have designed some nice landscape
10 buffers.
11 Trying to work with the
12 regional path system, you can see the red dashed
13 lines, to help the city grow its bike path
14 connections to future developments.
15 At this point that's a quick
16 synopsis of our project, and we'll be more than
17 happy to answer any of the Commissioners'
18 questions at this point.
19 With me, I should mention, we
20 do have Gary R. Weber, our land planner. They
21 are here with me to answer, and we also have our
22 traffic consultants should there be any
23 questions. We'll be more than happy to answer
24 any questions.
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1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I think we will
2 come back to this with questions. At this point
3 I want to see if there is any comments from the
4 public on it. We will come back to it.
5 MR. CARRARA: Be more than happy to
6 address anything, Mr. Chairman.
7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Is there
8 questions for Kevin from the audience, questions
9 or concerns, comments?
10 WHEREUPON:
11 DALE METCALF,
12 having been first duly sworn, testified before
13 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
14 MR. METCALF: Dale Metcalf. I live
15 over here. This is me. I've got five acres
16 there, so I've got approximately 12 new
17 neighbors, and I want to know what you are going
18 to do to keep those neighbors out of my five
19 acres. My property is not a public park.
20 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Is there a
21 reaction to that?
22 UNIDENTIFIED AUDIENCE MEMBER: And
23 that's bare land, so --
24 MR. METCALF: Right now we've got a
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1 house on it, we've got four acres that we farm.
2 We were toying with the idea of subdividing our
3 property and putting a new house behind the
4 existing house, but my current concern is what is
5 the developer doing. Am I going to have a dozen
6 neighbors playing in my back field?
7 Because once they start that,
8 the guy who is farming is also farming their
9 property, so I lose my farm, so my four acres is
10 going to be an attractive play spot, which I
11 don't want to entertain a bunch of neighbors on
12 my property.
13 Are they going to berm it?
14 What are they going to do?
15 MR. OLSON: I can just lend a little
16 bit --
17 MR. CARRARA: Rich, if you could
18 introduce yourself.
19 WHEREUPON:
20 RICH OLSON,
21 having been first duly sworn, testified before
22 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
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23 MR. OLSON: I am Rich Olson of
24 Gary R. Weber Associates, landscape planners,
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1 architects.
2 I would say this is a community
3 that's going to be an upscale community. You are
4 going to attract people that are going to be good
5 neighbors to you.
6 We are not bringing in a
7 development here that's going to be something
8 undesirable to your needs.
9 MR. METCALF: I'm not worried --
10 MR. CARRARA: I'll follow up on
11 that. And I guess if there is -- I know we've
12 worked with other -- I keep turning my back to
13 everybody. I apologize if I turn my back to you.
14 We have worked with other
15 cities, and we'd be more than happy to discuss
16 additional landscape berming, possibly a split
17 rail fence possibly to have a line of demarcation
18 between the end of their property and the other
19 properties, and we'd be more than happy to work
20 with staff and the neighbor during the final
21 permitting process.
22 MR. METCALF: That's all we're
23 asking. Thank you.
24 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Is there other
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1 concerns? Gentleman in the back, please?
2 WHEREUPON:
3 PHIL HENLEY,
4 having been first duly sworn, testified before
5 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
6 MR. HENLEY: My name is Phil Henley
7 (phonetic). I live in Bristol. I was just
8 wondering what this was going to do for taxes.
9 Is it just going to stop there?
10 MR. CARRARA: I'm not sure if that's
11 a question directly that I can answer, as to what
12 it will do to taxes. That's determined by the
13 local assessor's office. We have no impact on
14 that.
15 As for future expansion for the
16 city, the city will have to be the one to speak
17 to that as to what they anticipate for Bristol in
18 the future.
19 Our property that we own is
20 only the property that's identified there. We
21 don't own property outside of that line.
22 MR. HENLEY: It looks like you are
23 doing a pretty good job of swallowing us up now.
24 My concern is not for another year or two, my
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1 concern is for ten years down the road.
2 You know, is our taxes going to
3 go up like crazy because we've got a 250,
4 $300,000 home next door?
5 MR. CARRARA: Again, I'm not in the
6 position to answer that. That is handled by your
7 assessor.
8 MR. HENLEY: Well, that's kind of
9 like an automatic thing, isn't it, if the
10 assessor sees that?
11 MR. CARRARA: Again, they base --
12 There is a number of factors they use to
13 determine property tax rates, and if you have a
14 specific question, again, general theory is, as
15 you said, if more development happens in the area
16 and that development increases the property value
17 in that area, that may have a bleed -over effect
18 to your property.
19 I'm not sure exactly where you
20 live in Bristol and how quick that would happen.
21 Again, that's an assessment question.
22 MR. HENLEY: Well, anywhere you live
23 in Bristol is going to be real close to this
24 development, I can tell you that. Thank you.
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1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Yes, sir.
2 WHEREUPON:
3 JIM SCHOONOVER,
4 having been first duly sworn, testified before
5 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
6 MR. SCHOONOVER: Jim Schoonover.
7 Couple questions. One, you have the walkway
8 going down to the school. Is that going to be
9 going down Cherry, or you've got something else
10 planned?
11 MR. CARRARA: Did you have more
12 questions or -- I'll address them all if you --
13 MR. SCHOONOVER: Well, the first one
14 is Cherry. Is that where the walkway for
15 this going back and forth to school is going to
16 be?
17 MR. CARRARA: Again, that walkway
18 was a suggestion of staff. Village -- or, excuse
19 me, city staff asked us to put that walkway in
20 there to help with the connection point.
21 I don't happen to know the
22 exact name of the street. Maybe --
23 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Cherry Lane.
24 MR. CARRARA: If it is Cherry Lane,
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1 yes, that is where a pathway will connect to.
2 MR. SCHOONOVER: And this is a
3 Yorkville thing, so Bristol has shrunk down more?
4 MR. METCALF: We are disappearing.
5 MR. SCHOONOVER: You say the taxes
6 aren't going to change.
7 MR. CARRARA: Sir, I never said it's
8 not going to change. I can't control it.
9 MR. SCHOONOVER: Where is the town?
10 MAYOR PROCHASKA: There never was a
11 town Bristol.
12 MR. SCHOONOVER: There is Bristol
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14 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Probably
15 two - thirds of that subdivision has had an
16 annexation agreement and a preliminary plat filed
17 with the city for over ten years.
18 MR. SCHOONOVER: For ten years? I
19 look at the old maps and I see Bristol Station,
20 where we are sitting at, and Bristol going all
21 the way to the Fox River.
22 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Well, the City of
23 Bristol is not in the United City of Yorkville,
24 which happened in 1959.
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1 MR. METCALF: Can that happen at any
2 time?
3 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Sir, I would
4 like to stop this back and forth. If you have
5 some more questions, would you state them? I
6 can't have this back and forth for the court
7 reporter.
8 MR. SCHOONOVER: Okay. With this
9 addition of the walkway going through, Cherry
10 Lane is a one -lane road.
11 Now what are you planning, to
12 put sidewalks going to the school, or what's
13 going to happen with these kids on the one lane
14 school -- I mean one -lane road?
15 There is not even parking on
16 the side. The residents that live on Cherry have
17 enough of a time getting around themselves on
18 that little road.
19 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Kevin, do you
20 have an answer for that?
21 MR. CARRARA: We are not planning at
22 this point to do anything south of our property
23 line. We will be more than happy to talk to the
24 city, but, again, that's outside of their
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1 jurisdictional boundaries.
2 We don't have authority to put
3 sidewalks in along Cherry Lane.
4 MR. SCHOONOVER: But you have
5 authority to dump all these people into Cherry
6 Lane going to school.
7 MR. CARRARA: Again, we are just
8 trying to accommodate some comments that we
9 received on our plan.
10 MR. SCHOONOVER: Thank you.
11 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Other questions?
12 Yes, sir. Gentleman there.
13 WHEREUPON:
14 LEMONT JENKS,
15 having been first duly sworn, testified before
16 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
17 MR. JENKS: My name is Lemont Jenks
18 (phonetic). I am wondering what all this water
19 drainage will do to the original pond and the
20 property that's just to the west and south of
21 there on the other side of Corneils Road.
22 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Do you have your
23 engineers?
24 MR. CARRARA: We do not have the
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1 engineers here, but I can address it.
2 Matt, can you go back to the
3 flow calculations? Right there. As you can see,
4 the arrows point to where the detention -- that's
5 the natural flow that currently exists, so any of
6 the -- any of the water that's going to be
7 collected, continue to collect in those natural
8 areas, we are actually --
9 MR. JENKS: I am talking about this
10 pond that's to the left. You see the darkened
11 area?
12 MR. CARRARA: Right.
13 MR. JENKS: That's Bristol Woods.
14 MR. CARRARA: Again, we are not
15 discharging any water to that pond.
16 MR. JENKS: I'm wondering whether
17 it's going to take the water that's already
18 coming in there and redistribute it away from
19 there.
20 MR. CARRARA: Again, maybe this is
21 something better for --
22 MR. JENKS: There is drainage tiles
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24 is why we have water in there.
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1 If you move the water away,
2 then the pond is just going to dry up.
3 MR. CARRARA: I don't know where it
4 gets -- I'm not sure where that pond gets its
5 flow, whether it's over land, under land, or how
6 it gets it, but, again, we are in -- we will have
7 to comply with all the necessary stormwater
8 engineering that we have to do, and I believe
9 part of the theory behind -- there is a regional
10 detention system just to the north of our parcel,
11 and I believe that the thought process is for any
12 of our additional waters, should there be any,
13 will be going towards the regional facility as
14 opposed to any other property that's outside of
15 our boundary.
16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I would just
17 like to remind everybody that this hearing
18 tonight is for annexation and zoning.
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20 the developer with engineering and so on and that
21 question will probably come up and be answered at
22 that time.
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1 future before this whole thing takes place, there
2 will be more discussions on it, a lot more
3 engineering work. In fact, all the engineering
4 work to be done.
5 Gentleman over here.
6 WHEREUPON:
7 ERIC HOCHSTETLER,
8 having been first duly sworn, testified before
9 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
10 MR. HOCHSTETLER: My name is Eric
11 Hochstetler. I have been in Bristol almost 18
12 years now. My house was actually built in 1843.
13 I have the original plat of Bristol.
14 My question is as to traffic
15 that's going to be coming through Bristol, okay,
16 because as of right now you have cars that fly up
17 and down that road leaving the Bristol Tap by the
18 school doing 60, 70 miles an hour.
19 You can literally any day stand
20 on Cannonball and see cars just blasting out.
21 They don't care. They don't care if there is
22 kids riding bikes or anything.
23 My question is what are you
24 going to do about Cannonball? Is it going to be
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1 expanded to four lanes? Are you going to put
2 more of a buffer system on the side of the roads?
3 You keep saying buffer, buffer,
4 buffer. You want to buffer your townhomes. Are
5 you ashamed of your townhomes that are coming in
6 because you want to buffer them with an
7 eight -foot trail? You want to buffer this and
8 you want to buffer that.
9 I mean, Bristol is the same age
10 as Yorkville. I don't dispute that Yorkville
11 someday is going to swallow us up. It's
12 inevitable. My question is are they going to do
13 it right, or are they just going to -- the old
14 part of the town, are you just going to swallow
15 it?
16 Are you ashamed of Bristol
17 because of the older homes there with these
18 $300,000 homes coming in?
19 MR. CARRARA: I'll address the
20 buffer question, then I'll let our traffic expert
21 testify to the traffic.
22 The reason we put buffers up
23 along the exterior is two -fold; one, it's a city
24 requirement that we have to do those bufferings,
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1 and, two, it's to soften the area so we feel it's
2 a lesser impact upon the people because we are
3 putting more subdivision in the area. The trees
4 help to buffer that mass -- the new houses that
5 you -- You are used to looking out at farm
6 fields, we understand that. Well, maybe -- I'm
7 not sure where your home is, but part of the
8 buffering is to soften the new houses that come
9 to the area.
10 Tim, can you go ahead and speak
11 to the traffic?
12 WHEREUPON:
13 TIM SJOGREN,
14 having been first duly sworn, testified before
15 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
16 MR. SJOGREN: Tim Sjogren. That's a
17 good question, and I think when we were out there
18 doing the traffic studies the city requires, we
19 certainly observed excess speeding.
20 That's not an issue with this
21 development or that it's going to address, that's
22 an issue of enforcement, and there is certainly
23 people you can contact in that regard, and I
24 think it's a very good and legitimate concern.
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1 As far as the expansion, the
2 traffic here, the desirable lines are for the
3 most part north, okay, Orchard or 47, and as a
4 result, there will be a need for some turn lanes.
5 We are not talking about taking
6 Cannonball and making it a four -lane road. There
7 will be turn lanes at access points.
8 What, you live on 30, I live
9 just up the street here. I think the speed thing
10 is a legitimate concern, especially with the
11 school and all those things.
12 MR. HOCHSTETLER: What I'm just
13 concerned is with all the extra homes coming in,
14 people are going to want to stay off Galena, they
15 are going to stay off 47, and guess what,
16 Cannonball, that is going to become such a busy
17 road through there, you're not even going to get
18 out of your driveway.
19 Right now in the morning or in
20 the afternoon you can't -- you can barely get out
21 of your driveway now, and you are going to add
22 in -- I don't know, how many homes are you
23 putting in --
24 MR. CARRARA: Units or traffic
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1 trips?
2 MR. HOCHSTETLER: -- down close to
3 the railroad tracks?
4 MR. SJOGREN: South.
5 MR. HOCHSTETLER: By the tracks,
6 probably in the neighborhood of 25, 40 extra?
7 MR. SJOGREN: I agree, regionally
8 this route will take up a lot of traffic, and
9 part of what the overall transportation planning
10 of Yorkville and the state and the county is
11 doing is looking at identifying regional traffic
12 things.
13 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Okay.
14 MR. SJOGREN: This site is required
15 to look at how does our additional site traffic,
16 how does that impact the community. Now, most of
17 this traffic is going north and so we are looking
18 more that way.
19 We did come down, we did
20 observations, we did counts, and we looked at
21 things in Bristol.
22 I understand your concerns
23 completely, but we are trying -- what this
24 particular site is doing is mitigating the
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1 impacts related to this site in terms of the
2 regional things and all the traffic and
3 everything that's happening in this area.
4 I live, you know, right here,
5 so I know exactly what you are talking about.
6 Getting out in the morning is no fun.
7 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Right.
8 MR. SJOGREN: But this site is
9 responsible for its site traffic, and we have
10 complied with everything that Yorkville has asked
11 us to do and have been in contact with the county
12 and trying to work together to make sure they are
13 doing their part to mitigate their impacts.
14 Does that answer your question?
15 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Pretty much. So
16 Bristol is getting dumped on one more time by the
17 excess traffic coming through there.
18 MR. SJOGREN: I think you are going
19 to see more of that coming through from the
20 north.
21 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Don't get me
22 wrong, I love the development coming in, but once
23 these homes figure out how good Bristol Tap is,
24 there is going to be more traffic there.
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1 MR. CARRARA: They are going to want
2 those hamburgers.
3 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Exactly. In the
4 evening it's still a mess, people coming in, want
5 to get a burger or whatever, and the more
6 increased traffic, it's going to destroy
7 Cannonball.
8 MR. SJOGREN: And the staff, what
9 they do is they make us -- we don't just look at
10 okay, how are things going to be as soon as our
11 site is built out and we are done.
12 We are looking to 2020 and
13 beyond and planning, and that's a whole other
14 ball of wax, but all the things they are asking
15 us to do to mitigate that traffic is not today,
16 but 15 years in the future. They are being
17 addressed by this.
18 MAYOR PROCHASKA: I just have one
19 more comment.
20 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Mr. Mayor, you
21 have a comment?
22 MAYOR PROCHASKA: I don't know if
23 folks were aware, late last year we entered into
24 an intergovernmental agreement with the county,
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1 and Bristol -- or Cannonball Trail in that area
2 is a county road, and what the city now does is
3 collect -- it's a little over $1500 per home that
4 goes specifically to improvement of county
5 arterial roads, and the way it works is the money
6 is held in Yorkville, it has to be used for
7 county road structure within the Yorkville area,
8 and, you know, we would go back to the county and
9 look at their plan, what their plan and
10 requirements are for Cannonball Trail, and those
11 funds would be eligible to be used for those
12 improvements on that part of Cannonball Trail.
13 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Mr. Mayor, do
14 you think it would be a safe -- Tell me if this
15 is a safe comment or a true comment.
16 If and when this comes into the
17 city, then there will be additional patrols from
18 the city; is that correct?
19 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Well, absolutely.
20 It would come under the city jurisdiction for
21 police patrolling, correct, and then we do have
22 Yorkville police patrolling up in that area.
23 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Are there
24 other concerns, questions?
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1 MR. METCALF: Dale Metcalf again.
2 And this is in regards to Cherry Lane, which is
3 the little peg on the bottom of the development
4 on the left side there.
5 And I know a lot of people
6 living there are going to pop down Cherry, go
7 down Hunt, go around the curve and go flying down
8 Corneils Road, which in front of my house is
9 posted 15, 20, 25. We've got snake curves.
10 Well, of course, it's really --
11 they have that new movie out now, sliding or
12 whatever it is. Well, I've got neighbor kids
13 that think 60 miles an hour on this road is okay.
14 My concern when I moved there
15 30 years ago, we used to wave to everybody going
16 down the road because nobody ever came down the
17 road, and now you can't wave unless you want to
18 wave one finger because they are going so fast.
19 And I can see a lot of your
20 residents coming out of Cherry, and for the guy
21 that lives on Cherry, that's a concern because
22 that is a tiny little road.
23 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Excuse me a
24 second, but Cherry is just a walking trail, isn't
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2 MR. METCALF: It's going to connect.
3 You are going to connect.
4 MR. CARRARA: It's just a bike path.
5 MR. METCALF: But stubbed to Cherry.
6 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: No.
7 MR. CARRARA: No, we have a bike
8 trail.
9 MR. METCALF: So it's not a road
10 out?
11 MR. CARRARA: It's not a road out.
12 And, as part of that, I think we'll be more than
13 happy to put necessary landscaping, whether it's
14 big boulders or trees or something to discourage
15 somebody from trying to drive through that area.
16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: The original
17 concept had that as a road through there.
18 MR. METCALF: That's what I was
19 looking at, because I saw that.
20 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: And comments
21 from this group right here have suggested that
22 the people on Cherry Lane wouldn't be happy, and
23 I wouldn't be happy either; however, we want a
24 safe path for children to get to school without
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1 having to go out onto Cannonball, so that's the
2 brief history of how that came about.
3 MR. METCALF: In the original plan
4 you had some lane for a school on your property.
5 Has that been changed?
6 MR. CARRARA: Yes, it has. We
7 have -- If Matt will go to the overall slide, we
8 did have the southeast corner of our property --
9 if Rich would go ahead and show us -- that area
10 he is circling we did have allocated towards the
11 school; however, we have met with the school
12 board on a number of occasions and they have
13 determined that that is not a site that they want
14 for a school, and, for that reason, instead of
15 donating land, we will be donating cash as part
16 of our development.
17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Yes, sir. Over
18 here.
19 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Eric Hochstetler
20 again. I just have one quick question. These
21 are all going on city water and sewer, correct?
22 MR. CARRARA: Yes.
23 MR. HOCHSTETLER: How will that
24 affect most of the Bristol residents that are on
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1 their own septic and their own well? Will it? I
2 mean, I am just curious because I have to know.
3 The tables are buried.
4 Sometimes you can go down 50 feet or 500 feet to
5 hit your mark for water.
6 MR. CARRARA: And, again, I'm not
how that other development is going 7 sure p g g to
8 impact that, but I believe the city engineer
9 could help us, but I believe we will be getting
10 the water coming down off of Galena from
11 Cannonball, but then the septic and sewer --
12 excuse me, sewer is coming west from Cannonball,
13 so we won't be impacting any of the area of
14 Bristol in terms of any of the work we are doing
15 for our infrastructure.
16 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Okay. Follow up
17 on this. Will the residents of Bristol have a
18 chance to tie in to this if they want to and, if
19 so, what would the cost be?
20 MR. CARRARA: That's a question for
21 the city, not for me.
22 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Okay.
23 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I don't know the
24 answer to that tonight.
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1 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Okay. That's
2 fine.
3 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Yes, sir.
4 MR. BONSVILLE: I do have a
5 question.
6 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Your name,
7 please?
8 WHEREUPON:
9 MARK BONSVILLE,
10 having been first duly sworn, testified before
11 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
12 MR. BONSVILLE: I'm sorry. Mark
13 Bonsville (phonetic). Bristol. I didn't get
14 introduced to this fella, I'm sorry.
15 MR. CARRARA: Kevin Carrara. I
16 represent the developers of Bristol Ridge.
17 MR. BONSVILLE: Is the water -- I am
18 looking at retention ponds around there, and
19 anybody who has lived in Bristol for ten years or
20 more has seen the golf course wash away the first
21 year it was built, and you are building water
22 retention all around.
23 What happens in extreme cases
24 with that water retention? Because we are right
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1 in its path.
2 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: John Whitehouse,
3 have you got your standard pat answer for that?
4 MR. WHITEHOUSE: No, this is not
5 quite a standard subdivision, Tom, so I won't do
6 the standard answer because this is a unique area
7 because it's not at the bottom of the hill like
8 some of those areas in the southwest part of town
9 that we have previously talked about.
10 There are several -- I can
11 address briefly the question earlier about the
12 pond that's to the southwest that heads down to
13 Blackberry Creek.
14 The existing flow that flows
15 through there now, that can be maintained by this
16 system, so that that pond gets water from field
17 tiles and surface run -off.
18 MR. BONSVILLE: Would there be
19 something that would happen normally now --
20 MR. WHITEHOUSE: I'm sorry, let me
21 get to your question. Because of where these
22 ponds are located, there can be a restricted
23 outlet that will maintain the amount of flow
24 that's going to those ponds now so that they
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2 here, although the other thing that we don't want
3 to do, while we always restrict the rate of
4 discharge from these detention basins, the fact
5 that a development causes an overall increase in
6 the shear volume of water, okay, we wouldn't want
7 water to be -- 20 times as much water to be going
8 through your ponds down there, okay, because in
9 that overflow situation, as you are talking
10 about, there would be a lot more water going that
11 way, so --
12 MR. BONSVILLE: I mean, we also --
13 I'm sorry.
14 MR. WHITEHOUSE: There is a regional
15 stormwater management facility that's going in
16 the low land area on the Bristol Bay property
17 that the majority of this water is going to
18 discharge to, and this stormwater management
19 system will be designed so that if it does
20 overflow, it overflows that way into a very large
21 area that's going to have an outlot to Rob Roy
22 Creek and then on to the Fox River.
23 So the overflow route, the odds
24 that we are going to have another 1996 storm in
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1 our lifetime, since that was a 2000 year storm,
2 are very -- are very slim, but the overflow
3 conditions for these particular areas cannot send
4 more water downstream to the southwest than what
5 would go in a normal flow condition now, so the
6 primary purpose of this system and the primary
7 discharge is going to be to the north.
8 MR. BONSVILLE: I see these bodies
9 of water near the tracks and, if I remember
10 right, that's what happened up past Jericho Road,
11 is those tracks washed out.
12 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Right.
13 MR. BONSVILLE: That's when the
14 stuff hit the fan.
15 MR. WHITEHOUSE: And the reason for
16 that was the railroad culverts. When they sized
17 their culverts, when they put the railroads in
18 many years ago, it was basically a shot in the
19 dark saying this is how much water is going to
20 come through, and when you build a railroad
21 grade, that is essentially a dam that has a
22 culvert or a bridge underneath it, and if it's
23 not sized properly, that railroad is going to
24 wash away. Okay?
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1 Now, the outlet for these areas
2 is not going to be towards the railroad, and it's
3 not going to be a situation that's going to
4 repeat like that Jericho situation.
5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Are there
6 other questions? Are there other questions?
7 MR. HOCHSTETLER: Just one more.
8 Eric Hochstetler. These retention ponds, anybody
9 that lives in Bristol for more than 60 days in
10 the summer can testify to this, are you guys
11 going to be doing abatement programs on your
12 detention ponds in Bristol because Bristol is
13 mosquito heaven in the summer.
14 You add this much water, you
15 are not going to walk out in your yard, okay?
16 And I can guarantee with all these retention
17 ponds, without it flowing properly -- I am
18 looking at Grande Reserve. There are a couple
19 that have standing water in them literally.
20 Art, you might want to look in
21 there and look at the larva that are in there
22 because they don't have enough water to keep it
23 active, okay? That's a straight fact.
24 And I was in pest control for
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1 ten years, and if that water is not flowing
2 right, you are going to get eaten alive. Your
3 new residents are going to get eaten alive. Just
4 a heads up warning about it.
5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Anything
6 else for the public hearing?
7 (No response)
8 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none,
9 this part of the public hearing is completed.
10 We are going to move on to item
11 number two, PC 2006 -33, Atwell Hicks,
12 petitioners, have filed an application with the
13 United City of Yorkville, Kendall County,
14 Illinois, requesting rezoning from United City of
15 Yorkville B -3 Service Business District and R -2
16 One - Family Residence District to the United City
17 of Yorkville B -3 Service Business District.
18 The real property consists of
19 approximately 34.75 acres located on the
20 northeast corner of U.S. Route 34 and Countryside
21 Road.
22 And speaking for the petitioner
23 is?
24 WHEREUPON:
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1 SANFORD M. STEIN,
2 having been first duly sworn, testified before
3 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
4 MR. STEIN: Good evening,
5 Mr. Chairman. My name is Sanford Stein from the
6 law firm of Gardner, Carton & Douglas, members of
7 the Commission.
8 I am here tonight on behalf of
9 the applicant, Atwell Hicks, on behalf of
10 Wal -Mart.
11 This was an application for a
12 Wal -Mart Supercenter which is planned for the
13 northeast corner of Countryside Road and --
14 Countryside Lane and Route 34.
15 We are here tonight for
16 consideration of two items, rezoning of a portion
17 of the 34 -acre site, approximately six acres of
18 those 34 acres, from current R -2 zoning to
19 proposed B -3 zoning.
20 This property is also subject
21 to a previous annexation; in that annexation
22 process this small portion of the larger site
23 remained in residential zoning because of the
24 plans of the developer at the time.
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1 The Comprehensive Plan of the
2 United City of Yorkville contemplates that the
3 entire area, our site and beyond, would be
4 commercial zoning, so we just want to -- that's a
5 necessary step in order to balance out the site.
6 The Wal -Mart Supercenter will
7 occupy approximately 125 acres of the site.
8 There will be some outlots for some other
9 development for the balance of 34.
10 The area is bounded on two
11 sides by existing business districts on both the
12 east and the west.
13 On the north it will remain R -2
14 until some developer comes forward with
15 commercial zoning, which is again consistent with
16 your Comprehensive Plan, which we anticipate, and
17 the south is unincorporated Kendall County.
18 We would like to present our
19 site plan -- Pardon me. Also for your
20 consideration tonight is consideration of our
21 preliminary plan of development.
22 We'd like to present that to
23 you, and we will have three witnesses for that.
24 First, Mr. Paul Burdy of Atwell Hicks will
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1 describe the site and engineering; Ms. Amy
2 Garrett of PB -2 Architects will discuss the site
3 elevations and architecture; Bill Woodward of
4 KLOA Engineering will discuss traffic.
5 After that we will, of course,
6 entertain all of your questions and hopefully do
7 this all very efficiently with your indulgence,
8 Mr. Chairman. I will defer to Mr. Burdy.
9 WHEREUPON:
10 PAUL BURDY,
11 having been first duly sworn, testified before
12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
13 MR. BURDY: Good evening, ladies and
14 gentlemen. My name is Paul Burdy. I am with
15 Atwell Hicks. We are a local engineering firm
16 for Wal -Mart.
17 The Wal -Mart at Yorkville
18 Crossing, the site itself is 25 acres. There are
19 five outlots situated around the Wal -Mart, four
20 in the front that will front on Veteran's Parkway
21 and one that will front on Countryside Parkway,
22 bringing the whole site up to about 34 acres.
23 Surrounding uses, across the
24 street, south side of 34, is county property. To
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1 the east side -- I'm sorry, to the west side
2 across the Countryside Parkway is undeveloped
3 commercial. To the west side -- or the east side
4 is undeveloped commercial as well, and then to
5 the north on the other side of the proposed
6 Crimson Lane is existing residential as well as
7 proposed residential property.
8 And the rezoning that we are
9 going to be requesting from you this evening
10 actually is approximately this back corner of the
11 property.
12 Initially the zoning was along
13 the frontage all along Veteran's Parkway,
14 approximately 880 feet off of Veteran's Parkway.
15 We are proposing to extend that about another 300
16 feet to allow for some outlots on the frontage.
17 In general the building faces
18 south. I am going to briefly touch on access,
19 and Bill Woodward with KLOA will talk about
20 traffic.
21 There will be two access points
22 on Veteran's Parkway, two access points on
23 Countryside Parkway, and two access points on the
24 new proposed Crimson Lane.
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1 The easternmost access point on
2 Veteran's Parkway will be a signalized full
3 entrance, and between that and the existing
4 signal at Countryside and 34, there will be a
5 right -in, right -out.
6 Both of those access points are
7 currently in the process of getting permitted
8 from the Illinois Department of Transportation,
9 and we have gotten some preliminary permits and
10 we are working on getting the appropriate permits
11 for that.
12 On Countryside Parkway we are
13 proposing two access points, one full access
14 halfway up Countryside and then one right -in
15 right -out, right in front of the outlots.
16 Then the proposed Crimson Lane
17 will be installed and we will have two full
18 access points off of Crimson Lane as well.
19 Real quick, to touch base on
20 utilities, the site will be served with utilities
21 from Countryside Parkway and we will be extending
22 water main up in the post office right now to
23 serve the site, as well as to run along Crimson
24 Lane as that gets developed along the way.
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1 Crimson Lane will be extended
2 all the way up to the Pulte development, which is
3 Autumn Creek, and eventually connect into it.
4 The current property owner will
5 actually be doing that project. It will be
6 constructed in conjunction with Wal -Mart.
7 Construction will happen at the time -- the
8 Wal -Mart will not specifically be undertaking
9 that specific work.
10 Some of the -- I'm sorry, the
11 other utility discussed is stormwater.
12 Stormwater is going to be handled in a regional
13 retention pond that will be situated north of the
14 proposed Wal -Mart site right here.
15 The current property owner is
16 working with the city and we are assisting as
17 well to try to come up with a regional stormwater
18 program that will service the entire development
19 in its ultimate build -out condition.
20 Some of the uses, to walk
21 around the site real quick, the building will
22 have a tire and lube express, a quick lube
23 facility, in the northwest corner, this portion
24 of the building is a garden center, which will
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1 have an outdoor component, and these two lanes
2 that you see right here are the drive - through.
3 What Wal -Mart does is put
4 pallets of topsoil, some big bulk goods, and then
5 rather than lugging them out to their cars, they
6 pull into this drive - through and load their cars
7 right there.
8 And the last component is the
9 pharmacy drive - through, which is located on the
10 east side of the building there.
11 We have submitted the site plan
12 to the city and have had several -- EEI and city
13 engineering staff have identified several
14 concerns, and we are continuing to work with them
15 through those concerns, and we will address all
16 of them by the time we get to final approval.
17 With that, I'd like to
18 introduce Amy Garrett from PB -2 Architects, and
19 she will be able to discuss the architecture of
20 the building with you.
21 WHEREUPON:
22 AMY GARRETT,
23 having been first duly sworn, testified before
24 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
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1 MS. GARRETT: Hello. Paul mentioned
2 my name, Amy Garrett. I work for PB -2
3 Architects, and we are based in Rogers, Arkansas.
4 We are Wal- Mart's consultant for this project. I
5 am going to raise the board so that you can see
6 it.
7 In looking at some of the
8 existing buildings in the City of Yorkville, we
9 have selected an upgrade material palette similar
10 in nature to what you see on the Jewel -Osco and
11 the Menard's that's down the road as well.
12 We have made sure to properly
13 screen the building from all of the property
14 lines, the existing residential behind the store
15 as well, the truck wells, the compactors, will
16 all be screened with solid screen walls or the
17 rear parapets to hide the air conditioning units.
18 We have also added some
19 additional detailing. There are small canopies
20 that project at the entrances into the building
21 to add interest there, and we have added the
22 banding and the other ornamentation at the
23 entries and under the main Wal -Mart sign as well.
24 WHEREUPON:
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1 WILLIAM WOODWARD,
2 having been first duly sworn, testified before
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4 MR. WOODWARD: Good evening. My
5 name is William Woodward. I am a traffic
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6 engineer and senior consultant with the
7 transportation and planning consultant firm of
8 Kenig, Lindgren, O'Hara & Aboona, Incorporated,
9 commonly known as KLOA, 9575 West Higgins Road,
10 Rosemont, Illinois, 60018. We are charged with
11 the site access study over this development.
12 We conducted the study in
13 accordance with the city and IDOT requirements
14 using the Institute of Transportation engineering
15 standards.
16 As Paul went through -- and
17 I'll go ahead, and if I may indulge again -- the
18 driveways -- five access driveways are proposed
19 for this development.
20 We have a what they call main
21 access off of 34 allowing all turning movements,
22 both left -in, left -out and right -in, right -out.
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24 supplemental driveway, off of 34. We will be
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1 physically restricted to only right -in, right -out
2 movements.
3 We have another right -in,
4 right -out movement off of Countryside Parkway and
5 a full access driveway on Center Parkway, and we
6 have two driveways off of Crimson, proposed
7 Crimson Lane, more like a backdoor entry.
8 Skipping ahead, I want to give
9 you the results of our study. We evaluated
10 several intersections in our study. We looked at
11 the intersection of 34 and Countryside, 34 and
12 McHugh, McHugh and Countryside, the proposed
13 Crimson and Countryside, and as well as the
14 access driveways proposed for this development,
15 and the results of our study indicate that as far
16 as the intersection of 34 and Countryside, no
17 geometric improvements are needed at this
18 intersection.
19 At the intersection of 34 and
20 the main access a traffic signal is warranted
21 based on the existing traffic volumes currently
22 being experienced on 34, as well as the volumes
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24 development.
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1 In addition, we are
2 recommending a left -turn lane from 34 into the
3 site as well as a deceleration lane on 34, and
4 the access driveway should be designed as you see
5 it here as a three -lane cross - section providing
6 one inbound lane and two outbound lanes
7 separating left and right turn movements.
8 The right -in, right -out
9 driveway on 34 -- A deceleration lane will be
10 installed on 34, and the right -in, right -out
11 driveway should be designed as a two -lane
12 cross - section providing one lane in and one lane
13 out with the outbound lane under control.
14 Similarly, with the right -in,
15 right -out at Countryside, it will be outbound
16 under control.
17 No deceleration lane is needed
18 on Countryside Parkway, a full access on
19 Countryside Parkway, no deceleration lane is
20 needed.
21 A left -turn lane will be carved
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23 driveway should be designed as a three -lane
24 cross - section similar to the one off of 34, and
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1 the other driveways on Crimson Lane basically
2 will be designed as two -lane cross - section with
3 one lane going in, one lane going out, with the
4 outbound lane under control.
5 Do you have any questions for
6 me at this time?
7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: As a Commission,
8 we'll come back to this. At this point then I
9 would ask --
10 MR. STEIN: We would like to present
11 kind of a landscaping plan for you and wrap it up
12 for you, if that would be okay.
13 To preface this brief
14 presentation, I am not a landscape architect, so
15 I can't speak to a lot of the specifics on the
16 landscape plan, but I can speak to the design
17 concept.
18 We used the zoning ordinance as
19 a starting point for developing the landscape
20 plan, both specific to the interior of the site
21 as well as the perimeter of the site, and then
22 from there we wanted to focus on the areas that
23 are going to be adjacent to residential and are
24 currently adjacent to residential, combining the
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1 architectural elements that Amy indicated, as
2 well as the heavy landscaping and berming that we
3 are going to -- to the rear of the building.
4 We feel that's the most
5 sensitive area, that's where we wanted to focus a
6 lot of the landscaping, so that's where we added
7 additional landscaping. In general, the rest of
8 the landscaping that you see is per the
9 ordinance.
10 Staff had requested that we
11 install parkway trees along the front of
12 Veteran's Parkway at the onset of the Wal -Mart,
13 and we are working with them on that.
14 It is our suspicion that the
15 outlots are going to develop very quickly, if not
16 at the same time as the Wal -Mart, and we may just
17 defer those trees until the time that the outlots
18 are going to go, but we are working with staff on
19 that and we will determine that based on the
20 construction schedule of the outlots. Thanks.
21 MR. STEIN: Thank you.
22 Mr. Chairman, Members, that concludes our
23 presentation, except to add that pursuant to your
24 ordinance, the zoning ordinance, Section
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1 10147B5 -A through E, are standards for you to
2 consider for rezoning, I would suggest that in
3 the materials heretofore given to the staff, we
4 have met each of these requirements and standards
5 sufficiently and I would hope to secure your
6 favorable recommendation. Thank you.
7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Comments
8 from the public? Questions?
9 (No response)
10 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Hearing
11 none then, I will conclude this portion of the
12 public hearing, and we will move to item three,
13 PC 2006 -42, Richard Marker Associates,
14 petitioners, have filed application with the
15 United City of Yorkville, Kendall County,
16 Illinois, requesting annexation to the United
17 City of Yorkville and rezoning from Kendall
18 County A -1 to United City of Yorkville Planned
19 Unit Development containing R -2 One - Family
20 Residence District.
21 The petitioner is not here
22 tonight, but this was advertised -- I'm sorry,
23 there was a legal notice in the paper, so at this
24 time I would entertain any questions, concerns,
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1 that should come before the Commission for this
2 development.
3 Is there anybody to speak on
4 that?
5 (No response)
6 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay.
7 MR. MILLER: This is on the agenda
8 for the 8th.
9 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. This will
10 be on the agenda for June 28th for anybody that's
11 interested.
12 Do we need to continue this or
13 adjourn it?
14 MR. WYETH: No further action.
15 WHEREUPON:
16 VINCENT M. ROSANOVA,
17 having been first duly sworn, testified before
18 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows:
19 MR. ROSANOVA: Vince Rosanova. I am
20 an attorney with the law firm of Dommermuth,
21 Brestal, Cobine & West. We represent Richard
22 Marker.
23 We would just ask to open it
24 and continue it to the June 28th meeting because
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1 we had --
2 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Mr. Rosanova, we
3 are already in public hearing and we will close
4 it shortly.
5 MR. ROSANOVA: Now we just need to
6 make sure that we continue it.
7 MR. WYETH: It's already noticed and
8 published for the 28th.
9 MR. ROSANOVA: Those publications
10 that were sent out were incorrect, so what we are
11 basing this on was the publication that was sent
12 out initially for the 28th was correct.
13 MR. WYETH: We want to continue
14 basically the 24th of May to today and then -- so
15 that will be the special motion we'll have to
16 have.
17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: So a motion to
18 move to continue this --
19 MR. WYETH: Yes, as to PC 2006 -22.
20 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. I would
21 ask then for a motion to continue this to the
22 June 28th?
23 MR. WYETH: Right.
24 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: The June 28th
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2 MS. LUCIETTO: So moved.
3 MS. ADAMS: Second.
4 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Motion has been
5 moved and seconded. Discussion?
6 (No Response)
7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Those in favor
8 signify by saying aye.
9 (A Chorus of Ayes)
10 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed?
11 (No Response)
12 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Motion passes.
13 It will be continued. And at this time then I
14 would entertain a motion to close the public
15 hearing.
16 MS. LUCIETTO: So moved.
17 MS. ADAMS: Second.
18 MR. CROUCH: Second.
19 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Those in favor
20 signify by saying aye.
21 (A Chorus of Ayes)
22 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed?
23 (No Response)
24 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Public hearing
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4 CHRISTINE M. VITOSH, being first duly
5 sworn, on oath says that she is a Certified
6 Shorthand Reporter doing business in the State of
7 Illinois;
8 That she reported in shorthand the
9 proceedings had at the foregoing public hearing;
10 And that the foregoing is a true and
11 correct transcript of her shorthand notes so
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13 proceedings had at the said public hearing.
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32:18, 32:20, 35:21, comply 12:22, 24:7 continuation 8:10 culverts 40:16,
36:8, 36:21, 42:13, component 7:2, 7:3, continue 9:1, 23:7, 40:17
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50:8, 51:13, 56:15, 12:23, 44:1, 44:16 continued 59:13 48:4, 48:15
56:17, 56:18 concentrate 7:15 continues 9:13 currently 23:5, 47:7,
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58:3, 59:14 concern 3:17, 8:19, 53:13, 53:16, 54:4 curves 33:9
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collect 23:7, 32:3 33:21 corner 35:8, 42 :20,
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colors 10:24 concerns 14:9, 17:1, correct 32:18, 32:21, < D >
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26:5, 26:18, 28:13, condition 40:5, 43:13, 43:14, 45:21, darkened 23:10
30:17, 30:19, 30:22, 48:19 46:2, 46:23, 47:4, dashed 13:12
31:4, 33:20, 36:10, conditioning 50:17 47:12, 47:14, 47:21, DAVIS 2:6
36:12, 39:1 conditions 40:3 52:4, 52:11, 52:12, day 25:19, 61:17
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comment 11:13, conjunction 48:6 53:18, 53:19 deceleration 53:3,
31:19, 31:21, 32:15, connect 8:7, 20:1, counts 29:20 53:9, 53:17, 53:19
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34:20, 56:7 19:20 32:7, 32:8, 42:13, dense 9:11, 10:10
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depressions 5:23 dispute 26:10 duplex 7:3, 10:24, 35:19, 41:8
describe 45:1 District 4:8, 4:9, 12:19 especially 28:10
design 54:16 42:15, 42:16, 42:17, during 16:20 essentially 40:21
designed 9:5, 13:9, 56:20 evaluated 52:9
39:19, 53:4, 53:11, districts 44:11 evening 4:21, 5:1,
53:23, 54:2 diverse 7:7 < E > 31:4, 43:4, 45:13,
desirable 28:2 doing 15:5, 17:23, earlier 38:11 46:9, 51:4
destroy 31:6 25:18, 27:18, 29:11, easier 5:3 eventually 48:3
detailing 50:19 29:24, 30:13, 36:14, east 4:11, 5:12, 9:19, everybody 16:13,
detention 6:4, 8:6, 41:11, 48:5, 61:8 9:22, 9:23, 10:2, 24:17, 33:15
8:7, 9:17, 11:5, 11:8, Dommermuth 57:20 10:19, 10:22, 13:8, everything 30:3,
23:4, 24:10, 39:4, donating 35:15, 44:12, 46:1, 46:3, 30:10
41:12 35:15 49:10 exact 19:22
determine 18:13, done 24:19, 25:4, eastern 6:17 Exactly 18:19, 30:5,
55:19 31:11 easternmost 47:1 31:3
determined 17:12, door 18:4 eaten 42:2, 42:3 except 55:23
35:13 Douglas 43:6 EEI 49:12 excess 27:19, 30:17
develop 10:2,12:8, down 9:1, 10:23, effect 18:17 Excuse 8:4, 19:18,
55:15 18:1, 19:8, 19:9, efficiently 45:7 33:23, 36:12
developed 47:24 20:3, 25:17, 29:2, eight 6:13 existing 15:4, 38:14,
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24:20, 43:24, 44:14 33:7, 33:16, 33:16, 9:20, 26:7 50:8, 50:14, 52:21,
developers 37:16 36:4, 36:10, 38:12, eight -inch 8:4, 8:4 53:22
developing 54:19 39:8, 50:11 either 34:23 exists 23:5
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6:18, 6:18, 6:21, dozen 15:5 elevations 45:3 expansion 9:14,
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18:16, 18:24, 27:21, drainage 22:19, elongate 11:4 experienced 52:22
30:22, 33:3, 35:16, 23:22 emphatic 11:20 expert 26:20
36:7, 39:5, 44:9, drive 34:15 end 16:18 express 48:22
44:21, 48:2, 48:18, drive - through 49:2, enforcement 27:22 extend 46:15
51:11, 51:19, 52:14, 49:6, 49:9 engineer 36:8, 51:6 extended 48:1
52:24, 56:19, 57:2 driveway 28:18, Engineering 24:8, extending 47:21
developments 13:14 28:21, 51:23, 51:24, 24:20, 25:3, 25:3, exterior 26:23
dies 11:21 52:5, 53:4, 53:9, 45:1, 45:4, 45:15, extra 28:13, 29:6
different 7:6 53:11, 53:23 49:13, 51:14 extreme 37:23
DINA 2:12 driveways 51:18, engineers 22:23,
directly 17:11 51:18, 52:6, 52:14, 23:1
disappearing 20:4 54:1 enough 21:17, 41:22 < F >
discharge 39:4, dry 24:2, 39:1 entered 31:23 faces 46:17
39:18, 40:7 duly 4:19, 14:12, entertain 15:11, facility 24:13, 39:15,
discharging 23:15 15:21, 17:4, 19:4, 45:6, 56:24, 59:14 48:23
discourage 34:14 22:15, 25:8, 27:14, entire 44:3, 48:18 fact 25:3, 39:4,
discuss 16:15, 45:2, 37:10, 43:2, 45:11, entrance 13:8, 47:3 41:23
45:4, 49:19 49:23, 51:2, 57:17, entrances 50:20 factors 18:12
discussed 48:11 61:6 entries 50:23 family 11:4
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discussions 25:2 dumped 30:16 Eric 25:7, 25:10, far 9:23, 28:1, 52:15
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Farm 1:9, 15:1, 15:9, 15:22, 17:5, 19:5, 45:14 56:12, 58:3, 59:15,
27:5 22:16, 25:9, 27:15, geometric 52:17 59:24, 61:11, 61:15
farming 15:8, 15:8 37:11, 43:3, 45:12, gets 24:4, 24:4, hearing. 60:4
farmstead 11:15 49:24, 51:3, 57:18 24:6, 38:16, 47:24 heaven 41:13
fast 33:18 foot 13:3 Getting 21:17, 30:6, heavy 55:2
favor 3:9, 59:7, foregoing 61:11, 30:16, 36:9, 47:7, held 32:6
59:19 61:12 47:10 Hello 50:1
favorable 56:6 forgot 3:15 GIPE 2:12 help 6:7, 9:12,
feature 9:12 forth 19:15, 21:4, give 11:8, 52:8 13:13, 19:20, 27:4,
feel 7:10, 9:11, 21:6 given 56:3 36:9
12:17, 13:6, 27:1, forward 44:14 gives 5:9 helping 4:24
55:4 four 15:1, 15:9, 26:1, golf 37:20 helps 6:20
feet 7:19, 13:4, 36:4, 45:19 goods 49:4 HENLEY 17:3,17:6,
36:4, 46:14, 46:16 four -lane 28:6 gotten 47:9 17:6, 17:22, 18:8,
fella 37:14 Fox 20:21, 39:22 grade 40:21 18:22
fence 16:17 front 5:18, 6:11, Grande 41:18 heretofore 56:3
few 3:16 33:8, 45:20, 45:20, grid 9:8 hereunto 61:16
field 15:6, 38:16 45:21, 47:15, 55:11 group 34:21 Hicks 42:11, 43:9,
fields 27:6 frontage 46:13, grow 9:13, 13:13 44:24, 45:15
figure 30:23 46:16 guarantee 41:16 hide 50:17
filed 4:3, 20:16, full 47:2 47:13, guess 16:11, 28:15 Higgins 51:9
42:12, 56:14 47:17, 52:5, 53:18 guidepost 5:19 high 5:22
final 16:20, 49:16 fun 30:6 guy 15:8, 33:20 hill 38:7
fine 37:2 funds 32:11 guys 41:10 history 35:2
finger 33:18 future 6:17, 6:21, hit 36:5, 40:14
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51:7, 57:20 12:5, 12:7, 12:8, < H > 25:10, 25:11, 28:12,
firs 44:24 12:21, 13:14, 17:15, half 6:13 29:2, 29:5, 29:13,
first 4:19, 14:12, 17:18, 25:1, 31:16 halfway 47:14 30:7, 30:15, 30:21,
15:21, 17:4, 19:4, hamburgers 31:2 31:3, 35:19, 35:19,
19:13, 22:15, 25:8, hand 61:17 35:23, 36:16, 36:22,
27:14, 37:10, 37:20, < G > handled 18:6, 48:12 37:1, 41:7, 41:8
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five 14:15, 14:18, Game 1:9 38:19, 48:7 32:3
45:19, 51:18 garden 48:24 happened 20:24, homes 26:17, 26:18,
flow 6:1, 6:1, 23:3, Gardner 43:6 40:10 28:13, 28:22, 30:23
23:5, 24:5, 38:14, Garrett 45:2, 49:18, happening 30:3 hope 56:5
38:23, 40:5 49:22, 50:1, 50:2 happens 18:15, hopefully 45:6
flowing 6:8, 41:17, Gary 13:20, 15:24 37:23 hour 1:9, 25:18,
42:1 General 4:8, 5:16, happy 13:17, 13:23, 33:13
flows 38:14 18:14, 46:17, 55:7 14:5, 16:15, 16:19, house 15:1, 15:3,
fly 25:16 Generally 5:21, 6:1, 21:23, 34:13, 34:22, 15:4, 25:12, 33:8
flying 33:7 6:3 34:23 houses 13:3, 27:4,
focus 54:22, 55:5 generated 52:23 heads 38:12, 42:4 27:8
folks 31:23 Gentleman 17:1, Hearing 3:2, 3:8, housing 7:7, 12:20
Follow 16:10, 36:16 22:12, 25:5 4:1, 24:17, 42:6, Hunt 33:7
follows 4:20,14:13, gentlemen 3:14, 42:8, 42:9, 56:10,
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52:16, 52:18, 52:19 known 51:9 Lemont 22:14, 22:17
< I > intersections 52:10 KRAUPNER 2:7 lend 15:15
idea 15:2 introduce 15:18, lesser 27:2
identified 17:20, 49:18 License 61:24
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identifying 29:11 issue 27:20, 27:22 Ladies 3:14, 45:13 Lindgren 51:8
MOT 51:13 item 42:10, 56:12 laid 7:12 line 16:17, 17:21,
Illinois 1:2, 1:10, items 43:16 land 5:17, 6:8, 6:10, 21:23
2:16, 4:5, 4:14, itself 8:18, 45:18 13:20, 14:23, 24:5, lines 6:7, 9:9, 13:13,
42:14, 47:8, 51:10, 24:5, 35:15, 39:16 28:2, 50:14
56:16, 61:1, 61:9 landscape 9:11, literally 25:19, 41:19
impact 17:13, 27:2, < J > 9:15, 13:9, 15:24, little 5:3, 7:12,
29:16, 36:8 JACK 2:10 16:16, 53:22, 54:14, 15:15, 21:18, 32:3,
impacting 36:13 JENKS 22:14, 22:17, 54:16, 54:19 33:3, 33:22
impacts 30:1, 30:13 22:17, 23:9, 23:13, landscaping 34:13, live 14:14, 17:7,
improvement 32:4 23:16, 23:22 54:11, 55:2, 55:6, 18:20, 18:22, 21:16,
improvements Jericho 40:10, 41:4 55:7, 55:8 28:8, 28:8, 30:4
32:12, 52:17 Jewel -osco 50:10 Lane 19:23, 19:24, lived 37:19
inbound 53:6 Jim 19:3, 19:6 21:10, 21:13, 22:3, lives 11:19, 33:21,
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51:8 John 2:14, 38:2 35:4, 43:14, 46:6, living 33:6
incorrect 58:10 JONES 2:10 46:24, 47:16, 47:18, LLC 4:2, 4:23
increase 39:5 jump 9:18 47:24, 48:1, 52:7, load 49:6
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increases 18:16 58:22, 58:24 53:9, 53:12, 53:12, located 5:11, 38:22,
indicate 52:15 jurisdiction 32:20 53:13, 53:17, 53:19, 42:19, 49:9
indicated 55:1 jurisdictional 22:1 53:21, 54:1, 54:3, look 20:19, 29:15,
indulge 51:17 JUSTIN 2:14 54:3, 54:4 31:9, 32:9, 41:20,
indulgence 45:7 lanes 26:1, 28:4, 41:21
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infrastructure 36:15 keep 12:9, 12:10, larger 43:22 29:17, 31:12, 34:19,
initial 7:23 14:18, 16:12, 26:3, larva 41:21 37:18, 41:18, 50:7
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inside 12:10 4:13, 42:13, 44:17, late 31:23 lot 7:18, 9:8, 25:2,
install 55:11 56:15, 56:17 law 43:6, 57:20 29:8, 33:5, 33:19,
installed 47:17, Kenig 51:8 layouts 5:20 39:10, 54:15, 55:6
53:10 Kevin 4:18, 4:22, lead 10:3 lots 10:24, 13:5
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57:11 5:19, 6:16, 6:20, 8:1, left -out 51:22 LUCIETTO 2:5, 59:2,
intergovernmental 9:9, 11:7, 11:18, left -turn 53:2, 53:21 59:16
31:24 18:8, 54:11 legal 56:23 lugging 49:5
interior 12:11, 54:20 KLOA45:4, 46:19, legitimate 27:24,
intersection 52:11, 51:9 28:10
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< M > 34:2, 34:5, 34:9, needs 16:8 41:5, 41:15, 41:23,
M -3 11:6 34:18, 35:3 neighbor 16:20, 42:5, 54:12, 56:7,
M. 1:8, 43:1, 57:16, MICHAEL 2:8 33:12 56:10, 57:6, 57:9,
61:6, 61:23 mile 4:12 neighborhood 29:6 58:20
main 47:22, 50:23, miles 25:18, 33:13 neighbors 14:17, old 11:15,20:19,
51:20, 52:20 MILLER 2:11, 57:7 14:18,15:6, 15:11, 26:13
maintain 38:23 mind 12:3 16:5 older 26:17
maintained 38:15 minutes 3:16 new 14:16, 15:3, Olson 15:15, 15:20,
majority 39:17 mitigate 30:13, 27:4, 27:8, 33:11, 15:23, 15:23
management 39:15, 31:15 42:3, 46:24 once 15:7, 30:22
39:18 mitigating 29:24 next 5:16, 18:4 one 3:14, 4:2, 4:12,
maps 20:19 money 32:5 nice 9:11, 9:15, 13:7, 9:3, 10:17,11:13,
Mark 36:5, 37:9, monument 13:8 13:9 17:16, 19:13, 21:13,
37:12 morning 28:19, 30:6 No. 34:6, 61:24 30:16, 31:18, 33:18,
Marker 56:13, 57:22 mosquito 41:13 nobody 33:16 35:20, 41:7, 45:21,
mass 27:4 Motion 3:2, 3:6, none 3:8, 42:8, 56:11 47:13, 47:14, 53:6,
material 50:9 3:13, 58:15, 58:17, normal 40:5 53:12, 53:12, 53:24,
materials 56:3 58:21, 59:4, 59:12, normally 38:19 54:3, 54:3
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matter 1:7 move 24:1, 42:10, 8:10, 10:9, 11:2, 42:16, 56:19
mauve 10:23 56:12, 58:18 24:10, 28:3, 29:17, one -lane 21:10,
MAYOR 20:10, Moved 3:3, 3:5, 30:20, 40:7, 44:13, 21:14
20:14, 20:22, 31:18, 33:14, 59:2, 59:5, 46:5, 48:13 ones 5:4
31:20, 31:22, 32:13, 59:16 northeast 5:15, onset 55:12
32:19 movement 52:4 42:20, 43:13 open 57:23
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52:12 52:2, 53:7 notes 61:13 - 24:14, 59:10, 59:22
mean 21:14, 26:9, movie 33:11 notice 56:23 options 7:7
36:2, 39:12 MS 2:4, 2:5, 2:12, noticed 58:7 Orchard 28:3
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median 53:22 59:3, 59:16, 59:17 35:12, 42:11 ordinance 54:18,
MEETING 1:1, 1:6, 55:9, 55:24, 55:24
6:15, 57:24, 59:1 orient 5:7
meetings 7:23 < N > < O > original 22:19,
MEMBER 14:22 name 4:22, 10:6, O'hara 51:8 25:13, 34:16, 35:3
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mention 3:15, 6:12, natural 6:1, 10:12, occasions 35:12 53:13, 53:15, 54:4
11:12, 13:19 23:5, 23:7 occupy 44:7 outdoor 49:1
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50:1 near 40:9 offend 11:23 outlot 39:21
mess 31:4 necessary 24:7, office 17:13, 47:22 outlots 44:8, 45:19,
met 35:11, 56:4 34:13, 44:5 Okay 21:8, 25:15, 46:16, 47:15, 55:15,
METCALF 14:11, need 28:4, 57:12, 28:3, 29:13, 31:10, 55:17, 55:20
14:14, 14:14,14:24, 58:5 32:23, 33:13, 36:16, outside 17:21,
16:9,16:22, 20:4, needed 52:17, 36:22, 37:1, 37:3, 21:24, 24:14
21:1, 33:1, 33:1, 53:17, 53:20 39:6, 39:8, 40:24, overall 5:10, 12:15,
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29:9, 35:7, 39:5 32:22 planner 13:20 previous 43:21
overflow 39:9, patrols 32:17 planners 15:24 previously 38:9
39:20, 39:23, 40:2 Paul 44:24, 45:10, planning 6:19, 7:11, primarily 7:16
overflows 39:20 45:14, 50:1, 51:16 8:9, 9:3, 10:1, 21:11, primary 40:6, 40:6
own 17:19, 17:21, PB -2 45:2, 49:18, 21:21, 29:9, 31:13, Probably 12:9,
36:1, 36:1 50:2 51:7 20:14, 24:21, 29:6
owner 48:4, 48:15 PC 4:2, 42:11, 56:13, plans 5:2, 43:24 PROCEEDINGS 1:6,
58:19 plat 20:16, 25:13 60:3, 61:11, 61:15
pedestrian 8:13, play 15:10 process 8:8, 16:21,
< P > 8:18 playing 15:6 24:11, 43:22, 47:7
P.M. 1:9 peg 33:3 please 3:18, 3:19, PROCHASKA 20:10,
pack 13:4 people 8:20, 8:23, 3:22, 17:1, 37:7 20:14, 20:22, 31:18,
painless 3:23 10:6, 16:4, 22:5, Point 5:5, 7:22, 8:6, 31:22, 32:19
palette 50:9 27:2, 27:23, 28:14, 10:3, 10:12, 11:13, products 7:6, 12:18,
pallets 49:4 31:4, 33:5, 34:22 11:24, 12:2, 13:15, 12:20
paper 56:23 per 32:3, 55:8 13:18, 14:2, 19:20, program 48:18
parapets 50:17 perimeter 54:21 21:22, 23:4, 47:1, programs 4 1: 11
parcel 6:17, 7:1, 7:1, permits 47:9, 47:10 54:8, 54:19 progression 5:6,
24:10 permitted 47:7 points 5:22, 9:4, 11:2
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park 10:4, 10:7, pest 41:24 46:22, 46:23, 47:6, 48:5, 50:4, 50:20
10:14, 13:7, 14:19 petitioner 4:16, 4:23, 47:13, 47:18 proper 10:6
parking 10:15, 21:15 42:22, 56:21 police 32:21, 32:22 properly 40:23,
parks 10:15 petitioners 4:3, pond 22:19, 23:10, 41:17, 50:12
Parkway 45:20, 42:12, 56:14 23:15, 23:23, 24:2, properties 16:19
45:21, 46:2, 46:13, pharmacy 49:9 24:4, 38:12, 38:16, property 4:10, 5:22,
46:14, 46:22, 46:23, Phil 17:3, 17:6 48:13 9:23, 10:1, 10:9,
47:2, 47:12, 47:21, phonetic 17:7, ponds 37:18, 38:22, 11:10, 12:13, 14:19,
52:4, 52:5, 53:18, 22:18, 37:13 38:24, 39:8, 41:8, 15:3, 15:9, 15:12,
53:19, 55:11, 55:12 physically 52:1 41:12, 41:17 16:18, 17:19, 17:20,
part 6:8, 24:9, 26:14, picture 5:10, 12:15 pop 33:6 17:21, 1.8:13, 18:16,
27:7, 28:3, 29:9, pink 10:23 portion 10:8, 43:16, 18:18, 21:22, 22:20,
30:13, 32:12, 34:12, place 25:1 43:22, 48:23, 56:11 24:14, 35:4, 35:8,
35:15, 38:8, 42:9 Plan 1:1, 4:20, 5:17, position 18:6 39:16, 42:18, 43:20,
particular 29:24, 6:5, 6:9, 6:10, 6:11, possibly 6:17, 45:24, 46:7, 46:11,
40:3 7:13, 7:24, 8:1, 16:16, 16:17 48:4, 48:15, 50:13
passed 6:12, 6:13 11:18, 12:15, 12:23, post 47:22 proposed 43:19,
passes 3:13, 59:12 12:24, 14:13, 15:22, posted 33:9 46:5, 46:7, 46:24,
passing 5:1 17:5, 19:5, 22:9, Power 5:5 47:16, 48:14, 51:18,
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Yorkville Plan Commission 70
June 14, 2006
Public 3:2, 4:1, 14:4, R. 13:20, 15:24 42:14, 46:9, 56:16 53:15
14:19, 42:6, 42:9, rail 16:17 required 29:14 River 20:21, 39:22
56:8, 56:12, 58:3, railroad 29:3, 40:16, requirement 26:24 Road 1:9, 4:13, 5:13,
59:14, 59:24, 60:4, 40:20, 40:23, 41:2 requirements 32:10, 6:16, 6:22, 7:15,
61:11, 61:15 railroads 40:17 51:13, 56:4 13:8, 18:1, 21:10,
publication 58:11 raise 50:5 requires 27:18 21:14, 21:18, 22:21,
publications 58:9 rate 39:3 requisite 10:14 25:17, 28:6, 28:17,
published 58:8 rates 18:13 Reserve 41:18 32:2, 32:7, 33:8,
pull 49:6 rather 49:5 Residence 4:8, 4:9, 33:13, 33:16, 33:17,
pulled 10:14 reaction 14:21 42:16, 56:20 33:22, 34:9, 34:11,
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purely 6:14 42:18, 47:19, 48:21 10:13, 10:21 43:13, 50:11, 51:9
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pursuant 55:23 rear 50:17, 55:3 residential 43:23, 32:5
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28:23 recommendation Response 3:7, 3:12, 58:5, 58:9
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Yorkville Plan Commission 71
June 14, 2006
19:3, 19:6, 19:6, 10:22, 12:13, 13:8, 5:18, 10:17, 35:7 standards 51:15,
19:13, 20:2, 20:5, 21:16, 22:21, 26:2, sliding 33:11 56:1, 56:4
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screened 50:16 sidewalks 21:12, snake 33:9 61:1, 61:8
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seconded 3:6, 59:5 signalized 47:2 someday 26:11 43:5, 54:10, 55:21
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June 14, 2006
swallow 26:11, today 8:2, 31:15, trips 29:1 55:17
26:14 58:14 truck 50:15 upgrade 50:9
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Yorkville Plan Commission 73
June 14, 2006
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