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Plan Commission Minutes 2006 07-26-06 APPROVED BY THE Page 1 of 8 COMMITT E/ ARD ON: `� 0 C-51 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE PLAN COMMISSION YORKVILLE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS WEDNESDAY, JULY 26, 2006 Chairman Tom Lindblom called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. ROLL CALL Members present: Charles Kraupner, Clarence Holdiman, Anne Lucietto, Sandra Adams, Michael Crouch, Bill Davis, Jack Jones and Tom Lindblom. Member absent: Brian Schillinger A quorum was established. CITY STAFF AND GUESTS Mayor Art Prochaska; City Attorney John Wyeth; Community Development Director Travis Miller; City Administrator John Crois; Aldermen Jim Bock and Dean Wolfer; Alderwomen Rose Spears and Valerie Burd; Police Chief Harold Martin; consulting engineers Bill Dunn and John Whitehouse, Engineering Enterprises, Inc.; Lynn Dubajic, YEDC; Richard Filler and Jim Snyder; with Harlem Irving Companies; Scott Mai, Smith Engineering; attorney Dan Kramer; Patrick Hughes, Ocean Atlantic; Greg Stevens; Hal Clark; Arthur Hill; Steve Forest; Ken Williams; Drew Rogers; Dan Cunningham; Tom Slosser; attorney John Philipchuck; attorney Jason Poppen; Brandon Wilmer, Menards; Bill Grieves; Don Peterson; Bertie Peterson; and Kate Bushkopf. Also, see attached sign - in sheet. OLD BUSINESS 1. PC 2006 -34 Kendall Marketplace Preliminary Plan Chairman Lindblom said that at the last meeting, the developer was asked to provide more information at this meeting. Since that time, the city received a petition signed by 160 residents asking the city to deny the zoning. Lindblom read the letter which stated: "We the undersigned, feel that our well established residential neighborhood along Cannonball Trail and Route 34 should be able to maintain its value and quality of life and that every effort should be made by the City of Yorkville to lesson the impact of unexpected commercial development on property according to the comprehensive plan was designated for residential development. Specifically, this means NOT widening Cannonball Trail, NO entrances to the commercial development from Cannonball Trail, using transitional zoning on the east side of the proposed development to buffer the high density commercial use from the low density existing estate housing, and relocating the proposed police department to a spot more advantageous to all the people of Yorkville." Rick Filler, managing director of Harlem Irving Companies, said he looked at the issues brought up at the last meeting. Those issues centered on soil and water concerns; access to Lot 51, which are the townhomes; traffic on Cannonball Trail; the photometric display; Page 2of8 truck routes for construction and permanent truck routes; distances between townhomes; and parking and density in the townhomes. Scott Mai with Smith Engineering explained the stormwater management plans for the project. Mai said there is a couple of areas toward the creek that drain to structures that pipes water under Cannonball Trail to Blackberry Creek. Under the proposed plan, a very large detention basin in planned in the center of the site. Through grading and storm sewers, all of the water from the property would be directed to that site. The only item of note is the area of Cannonball Trail that heads toward the east. The plan would allow water to flow in that direction toward Blackberry Creek. Also, he said the plan would include bioswails, vegetative swails. The basin will be a natural detention basin with a lot of native landscaping. The water would go though natural plantings that would clean up the water. Filler said the second issue is to provide a second access to Lot 51, the townhome area. Quite a bit of changes have been made to that area as a result of the previous meeting. A second access point to the west was added. Also a cul -de -sac was added. The third issue was to minimize traffic on Cannonball. Filler said they couldn't truly minimize traffic on Cannonball. But they can make it a safer roadway. Expansion will all take place on the west side of Cannonball, which is on the developer's property. No expansion will take place on the east side, Filler said. Addressing concerns at the previous Plan Commission, the entrance now matches up with the existing street. Also, he said they've added a right -in and right -out across the street from what would be zoned business or commercial. It should provide relief on Cannonball. Likewise, he said lowering the speed limit on Cannonball would be appropriate. As for lighting, Filler said lighting is more of an art form these days. All lighting would be recessed. The new streetlights would be in accordance to the city's code. In the outlots, ambient lighting would replace canned lighting. Regarding construction traffic, Filler said there would be a construction staging area off of Beecher Road, which in itself would be under construction. Plans also would be to use Beecher as the main thoroughfare for truck traffic. In the townhouse area, the distance between clusters was increased from 50 feet to 65 feet; more visitor parking was added; and the plan was opened up. Addressing the overall density in the residential area, Filler said there are 192 units planed on 55.94 acres with an overall density of 3.43 units per acres. The maximum allowable density is 3.5 units per acre. Page 3 of 8 The unit count is the same, but they're now calculating the right -of -way property into the overall property. In discussions with staff regarding the lights on Cannonball, Mai said the developer is thinking of putting streetlights only at intersections that way lights won't bleed into the residential area along Cannonball. Also he said they're thinking of putting a full- access intersection on Route 34 rather than a right -in right -out and that way there wouldn't be as much traffic on Cannonball. Lindblom said at the last meeting he raised concerns about the location of the police station. Police Chief Harold Martin attended this meeting to discuss his position. Martin said he believes the proposed location would be a good one. Currently the department has access to Routes 34 and 47 with the new location, the department would still have that access. Generally, the patrol cars are on the road 95 to 99 percent of the time. They respond to calls from wherever they're located in the city. They're not coming out of the department at a high rate of speed with their lights on, he said. As are as the amount of traffic the department would generate, Martin said there probably would be a dozen or so people coming and going throughout the day. Martin said the department is a good neighbor. The officers work 12 -hour shifts, so there are only two shifts coming and going daily. As far as the proposed new location, Martin said its about 10 acres. It would be close to all of the major retailers planned in Yorkville and to him that's a plus. If the department is built in this location, eventually they would need a substation at the south end of town, but that would suffice. Although some people think it would be better for the department to be located on a major highway, Martin said he doesn't think that is the case. It would be too hard to get in and out. Summing up his comments, he said the department has always been a good neighbor. Lindblom said, as much as he respects the chief's opinion, he still doesn't think this is the best location. He said the department shouldn't be located in a residential area. It should be closer to a thoroughfare if not right on one. Lucietto said one of the things she brought up last time was tying into the bike trail. Filler said the developer would work on that. Page 4of8 Lucietto then said she sees a P2 pond that doesn't look tied together. Mai said it would be tied together. They'll direct as much water as the can to that pond and it will clean up water before it goes to the big detention area. Lindblom asked about a sidewalk along Cannonball from Rout 34 to the northern point. Filler said the sidewalk would be there along with an undulating berm. He said the berm won't be consistent a consistent berm. Davis asked what would happen to the current police station when a new one might be built. Chief Martin said the current police station would be used as city hall. Kraupner asked about locating the police department on the proposed Beecher Road extension. Chief said because the roads aren't built yet, it would make it harder to get to Route 47. This proposed location would work best for the department. Kraupner then asked if any bioswails were planned in the stormwater management areas. Mai said they would do bioswails in the parking area too. Miller said his July 18 staff report summarized the set of items that the Plan Commission wanted addressed. Traffic on Cannonball was one issue. The petitioner is recommending an additional access point from the development to Cannonball Trail to allow traffic to exit closer to Router 34 to alleviate some traffic from Cannonball. EEI is reviewing the proposal and will report on their recommendation. As for lighting, staff has advised the developer to concentrate lighting at the intersections. Staff feels that's sufficient lighting from a safety point, Miller said. Meanwhile the density issue and spacing of townhomes has been addressed sufficiently, he added. Lucietto made a motion to recommend approval of PC 2006 -34 Kendall Marketplace preliminary plan. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was approved 6 -1 -1 in a roll call vote. Lucietto, Adams, Holdiman, Jones, Crouch and Lindblom voted yes. Kraupner voted no. Davis abstained. PUBLIC HEARINGS Kraupner made a motion to go to public hearing. Holdiman seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote. Lindblom swore in those who intended to speak at the public hearing. Page 5 of 8 1. PC 2006 -43 Ocean Atlantic- Chicago LLC, petition to annex and rezone. The real property consists of approximately 748 acres directly west of Route 47, south of Galena Road and north of Corneils Road. See attached. Lucietto made a motion to close the public hearing. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote. Miller went over the July 18 staff report. He said the city is operating under a relatively new PUD ordinance. Looking at the Comprehensive Plan, Miller said the land use recommended is predominantly Suburban Neighborhood with a gross density of 1.5 to 2.5 units per acre with commercial uses at Galena Road and Eldamain and Galena Road and East Beecher. The Comprehensive Plan also identifies Beecher Road to be a major collector. East Beecher Road would be the preferred route which would eventually cross Galena and connect to Baseline Road to the north, Miller said. In terms of density, the proposed density of the Concept Plan is 3.6 units per acre. To clarify, this developer is developing the east village as well as the south village, Mille said. The annexation tonight is for the north, west and middle village. He created a table breaking down the zone classification. There are four pods seeking R -2 zoning. In all of those areas, the planned density is below what the maximum allowable density is. The areas for R -3 land uses are also below what the maximum density is. In the R -4 zoned classifications are where the allowable densities are exceeded. Miller said the city's requirements in this zoning classification are 8 units per acre. To be frank, he said, city staff feels that limit is rather low for this type of development. He said it would be appropriate for a higher density. The PUD ordinance states that if the building density is increase above densities allowable by the zoning district in which the use would be permitted on a particular portion of a PUD then the amount of open space, retention of existing vegetation, buffer areas, new landscaping, public commons, community open space, and parks shall be evaluated for proportionate increase for the remainder of the PUD, Miller stated. Based on the Land -Cash Ordinance, the required park acreage contribution for the 2,542 units proposed is just under 66 acres The proposed PUD includes 267 acres of open space. OF that 29 acres would go to public parks, he said. From a planning standpoint, he said there is a proportional increase in the amount of density. Meanwhile, Miller said staff needs more information on the proposed uses for the "villa," "courtyard," and "condo /flat" uses. Page 6 of 8 Staff also would like a zoning plat to identify geographic boundaries. And, a description of the development standards and design criteria applicable to the proposed PUD is necessary. Miller said there's about a 50/50 split in the property between the Yorkville and Plano school districts. The petitioner plans to meet with both school districts to discuss the proposed development. Miller said Dr. Engler sent an email stating the Yorkville School District didn't need any additional land from this developer. Staff recommended that the developer schedule a meeting with both school districts and obtain a statement from each district indicating there needs based on the impact of this proposed residential development and modifying the concept plan as necessary to accommodate these needs, if necessary. Also, Miller said the Bristol - Kendall Fire Department asked for 2.5 acres of land. And Park Board staff has reviewed the plans, but it hasn't gone before the board. Miller said he's referred to the PUD ordinance in the commission's packets. On Page 6, the roll of what the Plan Commission is asked to fill is outlined. William Dunn, consulting engineer with EEI, said the petitioner has been responsive to any requests he's made. There's a laundry list of items to be worked on, but overall, he said, they're in good shape. Lindblom asked why there are so many variances. Dan Kramer, attorney for the petitioner, said that the developer has a product type that doesn't fit neatly into the ordinance. Lindblom said he's still concerned about the density on the project. Members of the Plan Commission all commented they are as well. Kramer said that as they go through the preliminary plat, it'll be worked out. A couple of the characteristics of the lands just scream out, Kramer said. A lot of the land generally would not be able to be developed and has a very low equalized assessed valuation. Part of the property has a played out gravel pit on it and the other part has a former landfill. The developer is taking land that is almost at waste value now and will put it on the tax rolls with the planned golf course. Kramer said there's a segment of the market that would love to have a high -end townhome on a golf course. Likewise, he said school district's love those types of communities because they turn out a low number of students. He asked that the Plan Commission focus on the annexation and zoning. Crouch made a motion to recommend annexation approval for PC 2006 -43. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. Adams, Holdiman, Kraupner, Jones, Crouch, Davis, Lucietto and Lindblom voted yes. Page 7 of 8 Kraupner made a motion to recommend rezoning as requested for PC 2006 -43. Adams seconded the motion. The motion was approved 6 -2 in a roll call vote. Holdiman, Kraupner, Jones, Crouch, Davis and Lindblom voted yes. Lucietto and Adams voted no. The commissioners then went over the findings for the concept PUD plan. It was decided the proposed plan complies with the Comprehensive Plan and the appropriateness of land uses. Jones said he's still concerned about densities, as did several other commissioners. Otherwise, the land seems to be laid out appropriately. Crouch said that the statement is too broad. There are no problems with the existing uses and the zoning classification. The trend of development is okay, as well. The impact the PUD would have on traffic is a problem. Kramer said the city has plans to improve Route 47 from Route 30 to Corneils Road. Ocean Atlantic will put up $5 million to help out although the development won't even bring 5 percent of the anticipated traffic to the roadway. City Attorney John Wyeth said that the Plan Commission hasn't done a lot of concept reviews and approvals under the new plan. It's important to note, he said, that one of the items entitled through this process is the number of units. Lindblom said the number of units is directly related to density and that the number of proposed units in this plan scares him. Jones that if eight units is on the light side, then maybe an additional one or two could be approved, not 4 or 8 per acre. Kramer wanted to know how etched in stone the widening of Route 47 is. Mayor Art Prochaska said the city has begun discussions with the developers, the Illinois Department of Transportation, and state representatives to work toward a solution. He said the developer has expressed an interest in working to get this accomplished. The City Council has voted to allow the contract upon receipt of funds. Lucietto made a motion to recommend approval of the concept PUD for PC 2006 -43 with the exception of density and the number of units. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. Kraupner, Jones, Crouch, Davis, Lucietto, Adams, Holdiman and Lindblom voted yes. Lucietto then made a motion to return to public hearings. Adams seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote. 2. PC 2005 -50 Donald J. Hamman and Carol S. Hamman, petitioners, request to rezone. The real property consists of approximately 5.038 acres at Countryside Parkway and McHugh Road. See attached. Lucietto made a motion to close the public hearing. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote. Page 8of8 Discussing the rezoning request before the vote, Jones said the 11.66 -acre contribution to the parks would be minimal anyway. Jason Poppen, attorney for the petitioner, said that they planned building would be a two - story, 45,000- square foot office facility. Smith Engineering would occupy the majority of the space. Lucietto made a motion to recommend rezoning for PC 2005 -50 as requested. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. Jones, Crouch, Davis, Lucietto, Adams, Holdiman, Kraupner and Lindblom voted yes. Lucietto made a motion to return to public hearing. Holdiman seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote. 3. PC 2006 -37 Betty O'Keefe Family Limited Partnership, petitioner, request to annex and rezone. The real property consists of approximately 140 acres at the east side of Route 47 between Galena and Corneils roads. See attached. Lucietto made a motion to close the public hearing. Adams seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote. Discussing the petitioners' request, Jones said he feels a water park would be a good use for the property. If houses are there, there would be traffic on the road all of the time. With a water park, the city would get an amusement tax and the traffic would only be present during the summer months. Crouch, however, said the use isn't being voted on at this time. At this time, the Plan Commission needs to vote on zoning, not on a particular plan. Lucietto made a motion to recommend annexation for PC 2006 -37. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. Crouch, Davis, Lucietto, Adams, Holdiman, Kraupner, Jones and Lindblom voted yes. Lucietto then made a motion to recommend rezoning approval for PC 2006 -37 for a B -3 Service Business District. Jones seconded the motion. Davis, Lucietto, Adams, Holdiman, Kraupner, Jones, Crouch and Lindblom voted yes. Lindblom said there would be one meeting in August and two meetings in September. Lucietto made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 p.m. Jones seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote. Minutes respectfully submitted by Dina Gipe PLAN COMMISSION MEETING UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE, ILLINOIS REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS had at the meeting of the above - entitled matter taken before CHRISTINE M. VITOSH, C.S.R., on July 26, 2006, at the hour of 7:00 p.m., at 800 Game Farm Road, in the City of Yorkville, Illinois. I i i REPO • COURT reporting service 1212 South Naper Boulevard • Suite 119 -185 • Naperville, IL 60540 • 630 - 983 -0030 • Fax 630 - 299 -5153 www.depocoui,t.com Yorkville Plan Commission 2 July 26, 2006 1 P R E S E N T: 2 MR. TOM LINDBLOM, Chairman; 3 MR. CLARENCE HOLDIMAN; 4 MS. SANDRA ADAMS; 5 MS. ANNE LUCIETTO; 6 MR. BILL DAVIS; 7 MR. CHARLES KRAUPNER; 8 MR. MICHAEL CROUCH; 9 MR. JACK JONES; 10 MR. TRAVIS MILLER; 11 MS. DINA GIPS. 12 A P P E A R A N C E S: 13 MR. JOHN JUSTIN WYETH, Counsel, appeared on behalf of the United 14 City of Yorkville, Illinois. 15 16 - - - - - 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 3 July 26, 2006 1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: At this time I 2 would entertain a motion to go to public hearing. 3 MR. KRAUPNER: So moved. 4 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Motion has been 5 made. Is there a second? 6 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second. 7 MS. LUCIETTO: Second. 8 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Moved and 9 seconded to go to public hearing. Any further 10 discussion? 11 (No Response) 12 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Those in favor 13 signify by saying aye. 14 (A Chorus of Ayes) 15 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed? 16 (No response) 17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Take a brief 18 pause while we reconfigure. Couple minutes. 19 (WHEREUPON, a short 20 recess was taken) 21 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I am going to 22 explain our process in the public hearing. We 23 have three of them on the agenda tonight. We 24 have a reading of a petition, then we ask the I Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 4 July 26, 2006 1 petitioner to stand up and say few words about 2 his project. At that time then we will take 3 testimony from anybody that wishes to ask a 4 question, make a statement, whatever. 5 We have a court reporter here, 6 so everything that is being said is being 7 recorded. 8 With that in mind, I cannot 9 have more than one person talking at a time. So 10 if you have a question, if you have a comment, 11 raise your hand, I will recognize you, come up to 12 the microphone, state your name, state what your 13 concern or question is, the developer will 14 hopefully then respond to that. Again, one 15 person at time speaking and we are getting this 16 all down. 17 Now, to clarify a little bit on 18 here, a question came up just a minute ago. One 19 of the public hearings is on the O'Keefe 20 property, which is where, as most of you have 21 read in the paper, the proposed water park is 22 going. 23 After talking with legal 24 counsel, we found out that this public hearing Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 5 July 26, 2006 1 tonight is for the zoning and annexation. The 2 developer is not here to present what the water 3 park will look like, okay. 4 But in that a water park is 5 allowed under this zoning, there will not be 6 another public hearing to talk about the water 7 park per se, so if you have some objections to 8 the water park, knowing that that's what's been 9 proposed for that property, please raise your 10 objections here tonight, but you will not hear 11 discussion as to what the water park is per se. 12 Is that clear? 13 (No Response) 14 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: It's a little 15 bit of a technical legal thing, right, Dan? 16 Are there questions about the 17 proceedings for tonight? 18 (No Response) 19 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank you 20 for coming and we can get started. 21 MR. JONES: Are you going to swear 22 them? 23 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: That's a good 24 idea. Anybody that wishes to speak on either one Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 6 July 26, 2006 1 of the three petitions, please stand at this 2 point and be sworn in. If you even think you are 3 going to raise a question, go ahead and stand. 4 It won't hurt anything. Exercise is good for all 5 of us. 6 (Witnesses sworn) 7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Item number one 8 is PC 2006 -43, Ocean Atlantic Chicago, LLC -- I'm 9 not going to read all these names -- they are 10 requesting annexation to the United City of 11 Yorkville and rezoning from Kendall County A -1 12 Agricultural to United City of Yorkville Planned 13 Unit Development, zoning to allow uses permitted 14 in R -2 One - Family Residence District, R -4 General 15 Residence and B -3 Service Business Districts. 16 The real property consists of 17 approximately 748.64 acres directly west of Route 18 47, south of Galena Road and north of Corneils 19 Road, Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois. 20 Dan, prior to starting, I'd 21 just like to caution the people from Ocean 22 Atlantic. 23 We have a full agenda tonight. 24 I would like your comments kept to 20 minutes, Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 7 July 26, 2006 1 and that will be 20 minutes by my watch. 2 Proceed. 3 WHEREUPON: 4 DANIEL J. KRAMER, 5 having been first duly sworn, testified before 6 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 7 MR. KRAMER: Thank you. In the 8 interests of time, my name is Daniel J. Kramer 9 from the Law Offices of Daniel J. Kramer, 1107 10 South Bridge Street, Yorkville, Illinois. 11 I am an attorney licensed to 12 practice law in the State of Illinois, and I 13 represent Ocean Atlantic and the various land 14 owners who are petitioners on this. 15 This one is going to be a 16 little different; you are not going to hear much 17 from me, it's more of a media presentation. 18 Frankly, before coming back and 19 asked for amendments to the East Village and 20 South Village PUD's in the past month, you have 21 had an overall exposure to us that those two 22 projects are going to dovetail into a large golf 23 course, high -end residential, high -end commercial 24 project. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 8 July 26, 2006 1 We're going to present a rather 2 lengthy, as you said, 20- minute presentation, and 3 at the conclusion of your work session tonight, 4 we are going to ask that you positively recommend 5 the annexation and zoning of this project to the 6 city, and then we will spend many months together 7 flushing out the terms of that and the terms of 8 the plats. 9 Without further adieu, I'd like 10 to direct Patrick Hughes, who is the local 11 representative for Ocean and would be in charge 12 of the entire Westbury project. 13 WHEREUPON: 14 PATRICK HUGHES, 15 having been first duly sworn, testified before 16 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 17 MR. HUGHES: Thank you, again, for 18 taking the time out of your schedule to hear our 19 presentation. Tonight we will have a 20 multi - person presentation. 21 It will start with our land 22 planners. We have two land planners with us here 23 tonight, Greg Roberts of the Lannert Group, and 24 Hal Clarke from Land Design out of Washington, Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission g July 26, 2006 1 D. C. 2 At that point we will turn the 3 presentation over to our architect, Bloodgood, 4 Sharp & Buster. Joe Sefin is here with us 5 tonight. 6 Joe will talk about the 7 architecture of the product, the residential 8 product that we are developing, in addition to 9 some of the retail components and the multiple 10 clubhouse facilities that are being proposed here 11 tonight. 12 At that point Joe will turn the 13 presentation over to our golf course design team, 14 Arthur Hills /Forrest Golf Design. Ken Williams 15 and Drew Rogers are here to present tonight and 16 they will do a little presentation as to what the 17 golf course -- how the golf course will be 18 configured and when it will be ready, and then 19 they'll turn it over to Kemper Sports and Dan 20 Cunningham, who will -- Kemper Sports will manage 21 the golf facility and banquet facility and give a 22 presentation and how that should play out as the 23 golf course gets developed. 24 Briefly, before I turn it over Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 10 July 26, 2006 1 to the land planners, I'd just like to take a 2 brief second to just point out -- and I've been 3 before all of you previously and I think I've 4 said a lot of these same things, but they remain 5 true today. 6 We think that the Westbury 7 development is an incredible development. We 8 think it is a jewel that will add a lot to the i 9 City of Yorkville. 10 We have received a lot of 11 commentary over the last year as we've gone 12 through the development -- or the approval of 13 both our East Village and our South Village, 14 which are two of the villages contained in the 15 development, and we've really tried to 16 incorporate what we've heard, and the ultimate 17 result is the concept plan and the presentation 18 that we have for you tonight. 19 Up on the board I just want to 20 point out a couple of critical components that 21 come with an approval of the Westbury project. 22 First of all, as I just 23 mentioned, Westbury features top, top 24 professionals, and you will hear from them Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 I Yorkville Plan Commission 11 July 26, 2006 1 tonight. 2 Additionally, Westbury 3 residents, the people that ultimately come and 4 live here, are going to support in large measure 5 a lot of the commercial activity that's ongoing 6 now here in Yorkville, and that will continue, 7 including the commercial aspects of our 8 development. 9 We've got, as you know, a 10 couple of commercial sites at Westbury, including 11 some retail in our village common area, and we 12 think that the way we have it planned will 13 support that commercial in a very positive way. 14 I think it's important to point 15 out that as part of Westbury and part of its 16 approval, Westbury will finance and construct a 17 new elementary school on -site that is going to 18 cost about $12,000,000. 19 We will develop and build a 20 banquet facility, which I have heard repeatedly 21 is something that we need here in town so people 22 can have weddings and anniversary parties and 23 things like that. We think that's a needed and 24 desirable amenity here. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 12 July 26, 2006 1 I think, importantly, we are 2 committed as we bring residents into town to 3 expand and improve the infrastructure. Towards 4 that end, we had voluntarily agreed to pay 5 $5,000,000 for the widening of Route 47, which I 6 think is something that the city is looking to 7 have done, and we want to participate in that, 8 and we've already agreed that we will participate 9 if we are able to get approval on our project. 10 The economic impact of Westbury 11 is significant, and you should all know that when 12 you are considering your vote, Ocean Atlantic 13 will gay, the development will pay through OA, 14 $69,000,000 in fees and will increase the tax 15 base by 1.2 million dollars here in Yorkville, 16 which is an incredible figure because it's the 17 type of development that you need, unique type of 18 development that can provide that type of 19 economic impact. 20 I think it's important to note 21 that while we are doing this, we want to make 22 sure that the local community is involved from an 23 employment standpoint. 24 We are committed to hire and Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 13 July 26, 2006 1 use local custom and semi - custom builders who can I 2 buy lots in our development and give it a special I 3 local character that we know the city would want, 4 and we also think that the commercial that we are 5 offering on both corners of our development, 6 including the retail center and the golf courses, 7 will provide lasting employment opportunities for 8 local residents. 9 So I just wanted you to be 10 aware of those factors, but I think it's 11 critical, it's a little bit different than the 12 typical development, a little bit nicer and 13 offers a little more. 14 Having said that, I would like 15 to introduce Greg Stevens of the Lannert Group. 16 He will discuss the land plan, and we will go 17 from there. Greg? 18 WHEREUPON: 19 GREG STEVENS, 20 having been first duly sworn, testified before 21 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 22 MR. DAVIS: Greg Stevens, Vice 23 President with the Lannert Group, 214 Fulton 24 Street, Geneva, Illinois. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 14 July 26, 2006 1 Part of our role with the 2 design team has been working with the design team 3 to develop the overall master plan for the 4 Westbury project, which we will be presenting 5 this evening. 6 We've also designed and done 7 the layout work for the East Village and South 8 Village, which you've all become familiar with. 9 We are currently planning and 10 doing design work for the parks that are found 11 throughout the Westbury community, as well as 12 open space corridors, and we have designed and 13 developed landscape elements throughout the 14 communities, including streetscape elements and 15 common area landscape, so that gives you an idea 16 of our role in the design team. � 17 The first -- to get to the 18 concept plan, the first exhibit is our regional 19 aerial exhibit, and we are all familiar with the 20 location of the site. 21 It's a little hard to see it on i 22 this, but this area in green is East -- what 23 we're calling East Village, South Village is down 24 here, and then the remaining expansion area lies Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 15 July 26, 2006 1 south of Galena Road, which is here, west of 2 Route 47, which is here. 3 Just to give you some of the 4 context, the blue area is the village -- or I'm 5 sorry, the City of Yorkville, Village of 6 Montgomery is shown in green, and the Village of 7 Plano is over here in orange, so that gives you a 8 little bit of the regional context where it lies. 9 Currently -- and I may go to 10 this one, it's a little clearer to see, it's the 11 same exhibit down here on the floor, but the 12 school district boundary line is shown here, and 13 it does split the site, so a portion of the site 14 located here is in the Plano School District, the 15 remaining acreage of the site is within Yorkville 16 School District. 17 The next aerial is a little 18 closer up aerial, and it's also shown over here, 19 but this gives you an idea of the properties that 20 have been assembled for the overall Westbury 21 project. 22 Here is East Village shown 23 here, South Village down here, we have the 24 remaining parcels that have been put together, Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 16 July 26, 2006 1 which are delineated in the yellow boundary line, i 2 we have Rosenwinkel property, the Nelson 3 property, Schultz is right in here, and then also I 4 Rosenwinkel up to the north, northwest here. 5 The next exhibit is -- briefly 6 I'll spend a little bit of time on this -- is the 7 site analysis. 8 This is just generally showing 9 the general topography of the site. The red 10 lines show ridges, the high points, the highest I 11 elevations, are shown with the red stars, low 12 points are the yellow flowers if you will. 13 This also shows the corridor of 14 Rob Roy Creek which bisects the site here and 15 some of the tributaries that feed into Rob Roy 16 Creek. 17 This becomes very important 18 because a lot of this land in here is low -lying 19 land, it is in floodplain, floodway. 20 This becomes prime area for the 21 development of our golf course community. It 22 is -- Being low -lying areas, it's not really 23 suitable for development of residential areas, so i 24 that lends itself to developing the golf course Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 17 July 26, 2006 1 area. 2 This exhibit also shows wetland 3 areas. We've had all the wetland areas 4 delineated, we are working with those. It also 5 shows some of the compost areas and landfill. 6 The next exhibit just briefly 7 shows what we are calling the five villages. We 8 are dealing with East Village, South Village, 9 Middle Village is shown in yellow, blue is North 10 Village, and West Village -- I'm sorry, West 11 Village is over here in orange, so that just 12 gives you an idea of what we are calling the five 13 villages. 14 The next exhibit is our concept 15 plan, and this is the plan that we developed 16 which we are really presenting tonight. 17 The East Village, South 18 Village, which you are all familiar with, are 19 shown here as a preliminary plan. 20 The remainder expansion area, 21 which is approximately 744 acres, is shown in the 22 bubble diagram. 23 The overall acreage of the 24 entire Westbury community is 1175 acres with, as Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 18 July 26, 2006 1 I said, the expansion being 744 acres of that. 2 We have set up a network of 3 roadways, basically that the main entrance to the 4 project will be off of Route 47 located here. 5 This is going to be an 6 eight -foot wide right -of -way, it's going to be a 7 divided median -type boulevard, so it's going to 8 be heavily landscaped, median - divided boulevard, 9 leading into what we are calling the Village 10 Center, which is the heart of the project, 11 located here. 12 Another key component of the 13 roadway network is the Beecher Road alignment. 14 We have worked with staff to align Beecher Road. 15 It basically continues in a north /south direction 16 through the site. 17 To help aid in slowing the 18 traffic since it is bisecting our golf course 19 community, we've added two round - abouts, one 20 located here in the front of the Village Center 21 and one located here, which we're calling this 22 extension West Village Boulevard, which will lead 23 to the west and up to our second commercial site. 24 The commercial components of Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 19 July 26, 2006 1 this project, we have a 34 -acre site located at 2 Route 47 and Galena Road, located here. 3 We have another 17 -acre site 4 shown here in the kind of pink bubble up here at 5 the corner of Eldamain and Galena Road. 6 Basically the rest of this 7 bubble diagram shows where we are proposing to 8 have single- family homes. Single- family areas 9 are shown in yellow. 10 The single- family homes are 11 going to range in size from a minimum of 10,000 12 square feet to a maximum of 13,500 square feet. 13 The orange areas -- and it's a 14 little bit hard to distinguish colors, but the 15 oranger areas shown here are what we are calling 16 multi -plex, and that can mean it will either be 17 courtyard homes, townhomes, luxury townhomes, or 18 standard townhomes. 19 The more brown colors shown on 20 the plan are also multi -plex -- designated as 21 multi -plex, but those includes villas, courtyard 22 homes, condos. All of those will be described 23 later in our presentation from the architect. 24 Each community has neighborhood Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 20 July 26, 2006 1 clubhouses associated with it. These are shown 2 in the red areas. So each community does have a 3 clubhouse. 4 We are currently working with 5 the park department right now to establish 6 additional park land that will be connected with 7 these clubhouse areas so that everybody has a 8 walkable area to these clubhouse and park 9 amenities. 10 Right now, as Pat mentioned, we 11 are developing a 15 -acre school site located 12 right here in East Village, and also we do have a 13 letter from the fire department that we are 14 looking into establishing an area for a two and a 15 half acre fire station. 16 The total residential units 17 shown on this plan range from 3900 to 4,000 18 units. We are asking for a gross density of 3.25 19 units per acre for the overall development. 20 With that, the golf course 21 itself takes up 160 acres of the entire site, 22 and, as I mentioned, the Village Center, which is 23 the heart of the site, that really is going to be 24 the entire community center. So that's kind of Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 21 July 26, 2006 1 it in a nutshell. 2 Next I'd like to introduce Hal 3 Clarke. He is a planner with Land Design out of 4 Alexandria, Virginia. He is going to go into a 5 little more detail of the Village Center. Thank 6 you. 7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I want to warn 8 you, you've got less than ten minutes left. 9 WHEREUPON: 10 HAL CLARKE, 11 having been first duly sworn, testified before 12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 13 MR. CLARKE: You warned me. 14 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Well, not you, 15 the guy that's running the show. 16 MR. CLARKE: I am Hal Clarke. I am 17 with the firm Land Design. And, really quickly, 18 a little bit about our firm. 19 We are multi - disciplinary 20 landscape architecture, urban design, land 21 planning firm, civil engineering, and we 22 typically work on projects like this, it's a 23 collaborative effort, and that's consistent with 24 our role here. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 22 July 26, 2006 1 Our role specifically on the 2 Westbury project is more of a place making, 3 really trying to flush out the character of the 4 Village Center, then I want to talk a couple 5 minutes about -- and some community character 6 elements as far as the theming and monumentation 7 of the community. 8 Skipping ahead to the golf 9 village or the Village Center, when we started 10 looking at the concepts for the Village Center, 11 it was immediately clear how -- what a special 12 part of the community this Village Center would 13 be, and when we started envisioning what it is 14 that village would be, it was more of not just 15 creating a place for the golfers, the golf shop 16 that's located in the village, but not only 17 creating an amenity center for the residents of 18 the North and Middle Villages, but taking a 19 broader perspective and developing a more center 20 of activity for the overall community that you 21 can program community events and really focus on 22 this area. 23 The physical design, we started 24 really trying to figure out how to make this Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 23 July 26, 2006 1 place what we envision in our envisioning 2 process, how to capture that character and feel 3 that we were describing. 4 It was more of a -- instead of 5 creating a grand community club with all the 6 amenities included, it was more an idea of 7 breaking those up into smaller pieces and 8 organizing those, arranging them around a central 9 village dream in more of an informal way and 10 activating that -- all the public spaces that tie 11 all of these activities together with 12 streetscapes, pedestrian- oriented streetscapes, 13 and public spaces, and that was a big thing in 14 our design quickly, the components of the Village 15 Center kind of centers around the Westbury 16 Country Club facility that we'll talk about. 17 The banquet hall, the golf 18 shop, there will be a mix, a swim and fitness 19 facility. 20 There will also be a mix of 21 what we are calling specialty neighborhood scale 22 retail. Nothing like a lifestyle center that's 23 on the main highway, but more of a neighborhood 24 school, services - oriented retail, specialty Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 24 July 26, 2006 1 shops, offices, small offices, and what we think 2 is a critical component is a mix of residential 3 units that would give some life and some activity 4 into this center to activate, because this 5 combination of the program activities, the 6 resort -style amenities and this life that the 7 residential units, people living there, will 8 actually breathe the life into this center and 9 really create that place that will become 10 basically the heart of the Westbury community. 11 And, really quick, I'd love to 12 talk more about it, but now I hand it over to Jim 13 Sefin to talk about the architecture. 14 WHEREUPON: 15 JOE SEFIN, 16 having been first duly sworn, testified before 17 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 18 MR. SEFIN: I am Joe Sefin. I am a 19 senior partner with the firm of Bloodgood, 20 Sharp & Buster, and we have been developing 21 communities for over 40 years -- this is our 40th 22 anniversary -- designing guidelines for future 23 development of the parcel by other developers as 24 well as designing the clubs throughout the Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 25 July 26, 2006 1 community. 2 What I'd like to do now is show 3 a little bit about some of the product that we 4 might see or envision here from just a character 5 standpoint. 6 We are looking at some sort of 7 estate -type single- family homes, an active adult 8 community or product type, master downs and maybe 9 some ranches or two stories. 10 A village, more of a 11 cottagey -style house that we would see in some of 12 the parcels around the golf course; townhomes, 13 which would be a variety of townhomes ranging 14 from 1600 up to 2300 square feet; courtyard 15 homes, which is mostly emphasizing the 16 architecture on the front with garages to the 17 rear off the street; again, another type of 18 courtyard homes that are still rear - loaded, but 19 they are three - story, a little denser product, 20 more for a younger family; condo /flat product, 21 again, this is a combination of condo and flat 22 units that apply to different market types; 23 apartments. 24 One thing to note now that you Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 26 July 26, 2006 1 all have this vision of what apartments are, they 2 are sort of dingy and stuff like that. 3 Today they are much nicer than 4 the single- family homes that we develop, better 5 detail. 6 Mixed use, again, these are 7 buildings that are fairly small in scale, have 8 retail or office on the main floor, and then 9 above that could have one or two stories of 10 either townhome or flat units above. Again, 11 fairly small in scale, but could have office or 12 retail. 13 We are also designing 14 clubhouses for the four villages. This is 15 currently the clubhouse that we are working on 16 for the East Village. i 17 It's around a 3,700 square foot 18 plan, great room, kitchen, an area for sales, 19 locker rooms, and then a pool. 20 We are also going to be 21 involved in developing the country club or the 22 golf club, which is again in the Village Green. 23 We are looking at around 35,000 24 square feet for this complex. It will include a Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 I Yorkville Plan Commission 27 July 26, 2006 1 golf feature, a banquet facility, a restaurant 2 for the public, a restaurant for the members of 3 Westbury. 4 Again, these are just some 5 interior shots. Let's just flip through these of 6 the character we might see inside the building, 7 continuing on, and we will turn it over to Arthur 8 Hills. 9 WHEREUPON: 10 KEN WILLIAMS, 11 having been first duly sworn, testified before 12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 13 MR. WILLIAMS: My name is Ken 14 Williams with Arthur Hills -- 15 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Excuse me. I am 16 going to give you about two minutes. 17 MR. WILLIAMS: Take 30 seconds. 18 What I'd like to emphasize here, our firm, our 19 emphasis is on environmental sensitivity and 20 designing golf courses that fit the site. 21 We are experienced nationally 22 and internationally with the National Audubon 23 Society and the first International Audubon 24 Society. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 28 July 26, 2006 1 Our goals for this site, it's a 2 unique site. It has a quarry. Chicago is a 3 great market, the PG championship is coming here. 4 This will be a unique feature. 5 Go back one. Because the 6 community wants to be playable for all skill 7 levels, testing, it should be operable for high 8 school golfers, great aesthetic appeal for the 9 homes, fantastic amenity for a community and a 10 city, and, again, we wanted to design a golf 11 course that fits the site. 12 We are not here to move a lot 13 of dirt and create something that wasn't here 14 before. Thank you for your time. 15 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Thank you. 16 Okay. I will entertain questions or comments 17 from the public regarding this and then -- 18 Patrick, would you then call whatever staff you 19 would like to respond? 20 MR. HUGHES: Sure. 21 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Are there 22 questions or concerns? Gentleman right here. 23 Yes. 24 WHEREUPON: Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 29 July 26, 2006 1 EDWARD OLIVER, 2 having been first duly sworn, testified before 3 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 4 MR. OLIVER: Edward Oliver. I live 5 at 1327 West Beecher, the two pieces of property 6 in the white. 7 You are changing my street 8 where it goes out that way and I just want to 9 make sure that -- I run a septic business out of 10 there, that I can run my trucks out that road. 11 That's all I care about. 12 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Do you know 13 where he is talking about? 14 MR. OLIVER: Right in here. 15 MR. CLARKE: Can you point it out on 16 the aerial? 17 MR. OLIVER: I can't go out there 18 because there is too much, so the only way I can 19 go out. 20 UNIDENTIFIED INDIVIDUAL: Oh, from 21 this point. 22 MR. OLIVER: I just want to be able 23 to go out that way and out that way. 24 UNIDENTIFIED INDIVIDUAL: I still Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 30 July 26, 2006 1 don't see why you couldn't go out that. 2 MR. OLIVER: That's looks like a 3 good site. 4 MR. KRAMER: Tom, I can answer. His 5 trucks, weight -wise he would qualify. 6 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank 7 you. Yes. 8 MR. OLIVER: I've been there for 20 9 years and the trucks have been running out that 10 road, so, I mean, they weigh 55,000 -- 5500. 11 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Shouldn't be a 12 concern. 13 MR. KRAMER: Unless they are over 14 72,000, they are fine. You are fine. 15 MR. OLIVER: Okay. 16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Gentleman in the 17 next row I believe. Yes, sir. 18 WHEREUPON: 19 TOM SLOUCER, 20 having been first duly sworn, testified before 21 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 22 MR. SLOUCER: My name is Tom 23 Sloucer. I live at a 8 Royal Oaks Drive. I 24 really didn't come here to talk about this Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 31 July 26, 2006 1 project, but I can't help but at least mention a 2 couple things. 3 What I did hear is a density of 4 3900 to 4,000 units over the other -- the total 5 of project, 3.2 homes per acre. 6 That is really a density is 7 just too -- too low. While I think it's great 8 they are going to build a school for $12,000,000, 9 the property tax payers and the owners that 10 remain have to fund the teachers' salaries. 11 I experienced a pretty big 12 increase in my property taxes this year because 13 of the referendum, and I would just encourage you 14 to do something with the density. 15 I think the density is 3.5 per 16 acre, if I understood the standard, but, you 17 know, I look at Grande Reserve, new tradition of 18 Yorkville. I think it's the only tradition in 19 Yorkville that I have seen go up. I think the 20 densities are just really too high. 21 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I have a feeling 22 we are going to discuss the density. Any other 23 comments or questions? 24 (No response) Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 32 July 26, 2006 1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Hearing 2 none then, I would entertain a motion to close 3 this portion of the public hearing. 4 MS. LUCIETTO: So moved. 5 MR. JONES: Second. 6 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Moved and 7 seconded. Further discussion? 8 (No Response) 9 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Those in favor 10 signify by saying aye. 11 (A Chorus of Ayes) 12 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed? 13 (No Response) 14 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: The public 15 hearing is closed for this portion. Any 16 discussion on the motion? 17 (No response) 18 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none, 19 those in favor signify by saying aye. 20 (A Chorus of Ayes) 21 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed? 22 (No response) 23 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Motion passes. 24 We are now in public hearing Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 33 July 26, 2006 1 for item PC 2005 -50, Donald Hamman, Carol Hamann, 2 petitioners, have filed an application with the 3 United City of Yorkville, Kendall County, 4 Illinois, requesting rezoning from the United 5 City of Yorkville R -2 Residential District to 6 United City of Yorkville B -3 Service Business 7 District. 8 The real property consists of 9 approximately 5.038 acres at Countryside Parkway 10 and McHugh Road, north of the United States 11 Postal Service Building, Yorkville, Kendall 12 County, Illinois. 13 Okay. And speaking for the 14 petitioner is? 15 WHEREUPON: 16 TOM ZANCK, 17 having been first duly sworn, testified before 18 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 19 MR. ZANCK: My name is Tom Zanck. I 20 am an attorney from Crystal Lake, Illinois on 21 behalf of the petitioners, Donald Hamman and 22 Carol Hamman, and the contractor purchasers, 23 which are Land Advisors. 24 Land Advisors has entered into Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 34 July 26, 2006 1 a contract to purchase the property which is 2 depicted on this zoning exhibit, and the shaded 3 area of this parcel is presently zoned R -2. 4 The rest of the parcel and 5 everything to the east, to the south, to the 6 west, is zoned B -3. This is the post office here 7 on the corner. 8 THE purpose of the purchase is 9 to ultimately come before you with a subdivision 10 plat to plat this into four acres for the 11 eventual use for the construction of an office 12 building for Smith Engineering, which is one of 13 your large employers here in town. 14 There is -- a hotel has 15 expressed an interest, has submitted a letter of 16 intent, which has not yet been accepted, and then 17 a restauranteur has solicited a contract from the 18 contract buyers for the construction of a 19 restaurant on one parcel, and on the fourth 20 parcel, a banquet hall. 21 So those are the dreams and we 22 hope they come to a reality. 23 As staff has indicated, this 24 request is consistent with the Comprehensive Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 35 July 26, 2006 1 Plan. We are, for purposes of the hearing 2 tonight, ratifying this is true, all of the 3 allegations set forth in the application and 4 petition. 5 Jason Hoffman is here, one of 6 the principals for Land Advisors, and also from 7 Smith Engineering, and we hope that you would 8 recommend approval of this zoning request to the 9 village board. 10 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay, Tom. 11 Thank you. 12 At this time I would entertain 13 any questions or comments from the general public 14 on this petition. 15 (No response) 16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none, I 17 would entertain a motion -- I'm sorry. Gentleman 18 over here. 19 WHEREUPON: 20 BRANDON WILL, 21 having been first duly sworn, testified before 22 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 23 MR. WILL: Didn't want to be first, 24 but I guess I will. My name is Brandon Will. I Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 36 July 26, 2006 1 am a real estate manager for Menard's 2 Corporation. We own the majority of the adjacent 3 property to this requested rezoned parcel. 4 I just had a couple questions 5 on what the current plans were with the property 6 before this came about. 7 I understand this is I believe 8 adjacent to park land that was donated with our 9 development for the Prairie Meadows subdivision 10 that was developed next door, and we also have 11 multi - family property that we are in the process 12 of developing in the area, too, and we were kind 13 of under the impression that additional park land 14 is going to be donated around that residential 15 area, there was going to be something entered 16 into the land we had, so I guess our concern is 17 that there would be a detriment to the land value 18 of the property if it called for remaining R -2 19 development. 20 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Travis, am I 21 correct that this property is adjacent to the 22 park property? 23 MR. MILLER: Correct. The park 24 property would be to the north, northwest of Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 37 July 26, 2006 1 where they are requesting the zoning. 2 In terms of the Comprehensive 3 Plan, this property is completely encompassed by 4 commercial recommendation, so even the park area 5 that's ultimately been dedicated as park under 6 the Comprehensive Plan was originally 7 recommended -- at least a portion of that for 8 commercial use. 9 I guess the point that I would 10 make in terms of land use, the ordinance does 11 require -- the landscape ordinance requires 12 buffer between non - residential uses and 13 residential uses, so any residential uses that 14 would be adjacent -- and I'm not sure how -- 15 Menard's residential property I don't believe is 16 adjacent to this property across McHugh, but if 17 it were, there would be minimum standards for 18 buffering, width of buffer yards, and we would 19 require berming. 20 MR. WILL: Can you comment to me on 21 the proposed land that was dedicated for the 22 complete PUD by Miller, Incorporated? 23 MR. MILLER: The park land is a 24 total of a little over a seven -acre land Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 38 July 26, 2006 1 dedication. A little over three acres of that 2 will be used for a park facility, park and 3 recreation facility. 4 There's been granted, that's 5 been obtained by the park board, moving forward 6 with that facility. 7 The remaining four -plus acres 8 has been proposed for a maintenance facility for 9 the use of the city for the city parks, as well 10 as public works. - 11 And it's been proposed, I know 12 there was a public meeting regarding that and 13 that is still -- how that will unfold and be 14 ultimately used is still yet to be determined, 15 it's still pending, but all of those uses would 16 fall under the current entitlement of land. 17 MR. WILL: Okay. Thank you. 18 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Any other 19 questions or comments? 20 (No Response) 21 MR. DAVIS: Let me clarify that. 22 Was that supposed to be -- When they donated that 23 land, it was supposed to be part of a larger park 24 parcel? As other properties came in, you were Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 39 July 26, 2006 1 supposed to have a larger park in that area? 2 MR. MILLER: I don't know that that 3 was the -- I mean, that's standard practice. We 4 can inquire and have land dedicated to the city 5 for park uses. That's standard policy. 6 We try to do that; doesn't mean 7 that it's always going to unfold that way. 8 Depends on how property develops when it's 9 petitioned. 10 MR. DAVIS: So why was there an 11 assumption on his behalf of that? 12 MR. MILLER: I wouldn't be able to 13 answer that question. MR. DAVIS: Can you answer that wh 14 y y 15 there is an assumption on your behalf that there 16 would be more park there? 17 MR. WILL: When I had met with Dave 18 Mogle about the park contribution aspects to our 19 own family project, as we are now starting to 20 progress with plans, as I mentioned, and he had 21 given me that impression. 22 Maybe I misunderstood, but, you 23 know, I just -- I just feel the rezoning of this 24 from residential use to a commercial use is Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 40 July 26, 2006 1 obviously a little bit property disvaluation to 2 our homes. 3 MR. DAVIS: Okay. 4 MR. WILL: Thank you. 5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Anything I i 6 else? 7 (No Response) 8 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: If not, then I 9 would entertain a motion to close this portion of 10 the public hearing. 11 MS. LUCIETTO: So moved. 12 MR. JONES: Second. 13 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Moved and 14 seconded. Any further discussion on the motion? 15 (No Response) 16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none, 17 those in favor signify by saying aye. 18 (A Chorus of Ayes) 19 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed? 20 (No Response) 21 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Motion passes. 22 Okay. Here is our chance to put Jason on the hot 23 seat. No, I'm just joking. 24 Is there any questions or Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 41 July 26, 2006 1 concerns for - 2 MR. JONES: Called payback. So we 3 are talking 11.66 acres. With 11.66, the 4 contribution to parks would be pretty minimal 5 anyway, wouldn't it? 6 We are talking general -- we 7 are talking general office, correct, if I 8 remember correctly from last time? 9 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Business 10 services, service business district. 11 MR. JONES: You were thinking of 12 putting on a two -story -- 13 MR. WILL: 45,000 square foot office 14 facility that Smith Engineering would occupy. 15 The majority of that is office. 16 MR. JONES: From that aspect I don't 17 see where a general business would really degrade 18 the surrounding area in my mind. 19 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: It would or it 20 would not? 21 MR. JONES: It would not. 22 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Would not be 23 detrimental. 24 MR. JONES: Right. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 42 July 26, 2006 1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: I agree. Any 2 other comments? 3 (No response) 4 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. The only 5 item before us then is a rezoning of this 6 property. 7 No other comments? Is there a 8 motion? Art? I'm sorry. 9 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Again, just a 10 point of reference to Mr. Jones' comment, the 11 other uses that are looking at going there are a 12 possible hotel and a restaurant banquet center. 13 Those would need to have a 14 business, general business, zoning. I'm not sure 15 if it's B -3 or B -2, but I believe the hotel would 16 need B -3, so just as a point of reference. They 17 are looking at some of the other things there. 18 MR. JONES: Thank you. 19 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Is there 20 a motion to this effect? 21 MS. LUCIETTO: I will make a motion 22 to accept the rezoning of PC 2005 -40. 23 MR. JONES: Second. 24 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Motion Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 43 July 26, 2006 1 has been made and seconded. Is there further 2 discussion on the motion? 3 (No Response) 4 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none, 5 can we get a roll call, please? 6 MS. GIPE: Bill Davis. 7 MR. DAVIS: Yes. 8 MS. GIPE: Anne Lucietto. 9 MS. LUCIETTO: Yes. 10 MS. GIPE: Sandra Adams. 11 MS. ADAMS: Yes. 12 MS. GIPE: Clarence Holdiman. 13 MR. HOLDIMAN: Yes. 14 MS. GIPE: Charles Kraupner. 15 MR. KRAUPNER: Yes. 16 MS. GIPE: Tom Lindblom. 17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Yes. Motion 18 passes. Thank you. 19 Motion to go back into public 20 hearing for the third item. 21 MS. LUCIETTO: So moved. 22 MR. HOLDIMAN: Second. 23 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Moved and 24 seconded. Further discussion? Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 44 July 26, 2006 1 (No Response) 2 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none, 3 can we have -- I'm sorry, those in favor? 4 (A Chorus of Ayes) 5 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed? 6 (No Response) 7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Motion passes. 8 PC 2006 -37, Betty O'Keefe 9 Family Limited Partnership, petitioner, have 10 filed an application with the United City of 11 Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, requesting 12 annexation to the United City of Yorkville and 13 rezoning from Kendall County A -1 Agricultural to 14 United City of Yorkville B -3 Service Business 15 District. 16 The real property consists of 17 approximately 140.9 acres at the east side of 18 Route 47 between Galena Road and Corneils Road, 19 Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois. 20 John, are you speaking? Been 21 kind of quiet. 22 WHEREUPON: 23 JOHN PHILIPCHUCK, 24 having been first duly sworn, testified before Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 45 July 26, 2006 1 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 2 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: That's okay. I 3 took my time last time, so we are happy to spread 4 it around tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Good 5 evening. John Philipchuck. 6 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: You've got two 7 minutes. 8 MR. JONES: Starting now. 9 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: John Philipchuck, 10 attorney with offices at 123 Water Street, 11 Naperville, Illinois, representing the Betty 12 O'Keefe Family Limited Partnership. 13 We are located on Route 47 14 between Galena Road to the north and the property 15 to the south and east side of Route 47, 16 approximately 140.9 acres. 17 As the petition reads, we are 18 currently in the county. We are contiguous to 19 the corporate limits of Yorkville to the north, 20 south, and also east and west, so we are not 21 quite surrounded, but just about darn near 22 surrounded. 23 We are requesting with the 24 annexation that the property be brought in and Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 46 July 26, 2006 1 zoned as B -3 Service Business District. 2 The adjoining properties, there 3 are some existing B -3. Somebody came in 4 expanding commercial zoning on the former 5 asparagus farm, and we are attempting to request 6 rezoning for our entire parcel to the B -3 Service 7 Business District classification. 8 We think that the Comprehensive 9 Plan supports this use in light of the fact that 10 as the City Council and the Plan Commission has 11 looked at applications that have come before it, 12 we have been expanding the amount of commercial 13 property fronting on Route 47, taking some of the 14 transitional neighborhood, residential, out of 15 that equation and doing the transitions more to 16 the rear of the properties that front -- so that 17 we can take advantage of the tax dollars that are 18 generated by increased property taxes and, of 19 course, as retail users come in and retail sales 20 tax dollars and the fact that non - residential 21 users do not bring school children into the 22 community, but we bring more jobs and we make it 23 more convenient for the residents of Yorkville to 24 have some of the many very commercial enterprises Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 47 July 26, 2006 1 that are located in some of the communities 2 further to the east allowed to come into our 3 community. 4 We think we have some great 5 locations for some of the major retailers, and 6 certainly as our market grows with our 7 population, we will continue'to see more of 8 those. 9 As the Mayor has previously 10 pointed out, we have been in contact with the 11 city staff, Mayor's office, talking about 12 Route 47, talking about how we can be a part of 13 the improvements to Route 47 as time goes on, but 14 like most things, we sometimes find ourselves in 15 a chicken and egg situation, how do we start and 16 how do we get going, and so we think the solution 17 is to try and take it on a local level with the 18 city as opposed to waiting for the state, but we 19 do need some of the auspices of the state to help 20 us. 21 We are working on several 22 different ideas in that regard, but it has to 23 start somewhere and, of course, the commercial 24 developers as the mayor has contacted about Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 48 July 26, 2006 1 trying to see what can be done about trying to 2 spearhead the engineering studies that EEI has 3 been working on with a cooperative effort to move 4 forward and to address the issues that we have 5 today and look for ways to solve them as we move 6 on and as we grow. 7 The utilities to service this 8 area are already in place. The O'Keefe family 9 granted an easement along their south property 10 line to allow for the Rob Roy sewer interceptor 11 extension, so we now have sanitary sewer service 12 not only for our property, but for many of the 13 properties in the area. 14 Water, we have the water tank 15 to the north, we have water mains that have been 16 installed at Galena Road, and we will be bringing 17 some water mains up as the radius property 18 develops, so we feel that there is adequate sewer 19 and water to serve the site. 20 Of course the city is 21 working -- and we will be working with the 22 city -- on the regional stormwater facility that 23 will be to the east trying to design a facility 24 so that everybody doesn't have to have a small Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 49 July 26, 2006 1 pothole on their property, we could have this 2 large facility to retain some of the stormwater 3 management for this area. 4 The property lies within the 5 Yorkville - Bristol Sanitary Facilities Planning 6 area. We will need to annex the property to the 7 district, but that's a matter of going through 8 the petitions and working with the district. 9 So we feel that the opportunity 10 is here with this particular location along 11 Galena Road and Route 47 to maximize the uses 12 that are permitted in the B -3 commercial 13 district. 14 I know that we have had 15 discussions about traffic in the past and some of 16 the concerns of Plan Commissioners were mentioned 17 this evening about the Route 47 traffic. 18 We have our traffic engineer 19 and consulting firm of Grenwalt, Hamilton on 20 board. Mr. Bill Griefs is here this evening, he 21 is our traffic engineer, and Bill would just like 22 to make a couple of comments as far as what he is 23 looking into with the traffic situation for this 24 particular property. Bill? Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 50 July 26, 2006 1 WHEREUPON: 2 BILL GRIEFS, 3 having been first duly sworn, testified before 4 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 5 MR. GRIEFS: Thank you. As usual, 6 counsel gave most of my presentation. I think 7 the big thing that we really want to take a look 8 at is three words: Foresight, cooperation and 9 coordination. 10 Your community has gone a long 11 way already for having the foresight for taking a 12 look at the regional problem along 47, by 13 instituting some of the studies, taking a look at 14 some of the things like right -of -way needs, 15 alignments along Route 47, because that problem 16 is not going to go away. 17 The latest IDOT map on the web 18 site shows about 16,000, 17,000 cars a day 19 rumbling along 47. That is right at its end for 20 a basic two -lane road. 21 No matter what happens, that 22 number is going to keep going up and up and up 23 and up, it's a regional arterial route. 24 No matter what happens in other Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 51 July 26, 2006 1 parts of the whole 47 corridor, that traffic is 2 going to grow, so the best thing to do is to 3 cooperate, and our client is more than willing to 4 cooperate. We've shown a strong effort already 5 to try and figure out the best means of 6 cooperating. 7 Part of that -- and getting 8 back to the foresight -- is establishing an 9 access program up and down 47, IDOT is seeing and 10 they are taking a look at it, but we are more 11 than willing to cooperate to make sure that that 12 happens. 13 What does that access strategy 14 mean? It doesn't mean driveways every 50 feet. 15 It means well laid -out, well thought -out, places 16 where you can have the safety and convenience of i 17 turn lanes and traffic signals to make sure that 18 the area development goes out on Route 47 and 19 gets in off of Route 47. 20 And, finally, the coordination i 21 efforts. As Mr. Philipchuck said, they are big. 22 I mean, it's going to have to really be a joint 23 effort among developers, the city, IDOT, the 24 county, who has jurisdiction over Galena Road, bepo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 52 July 26, 2006 1 but those are all types of things that I think 2 are already starting in the process. 3 In fact, we just had a meeting 4 today to start going over some of the traffic 5 issues as far as how they relate to where access 6 wants to be, what part of 47 really wants to 7 maybe get a little bit more of right -of -way here, 8 little bit more of right -of -way there, start 9 looking at alignment of what 47 and Galena Road 10 wants to be, that sort of thing. 11 So the process has started, and 12 I am just here to say that I feel very confident 13 that those issues as they relate today and as you 14 look forward to the future can be resolved. 15 Thank you. 16 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank 17 you. 18 MR. PHILIPCHUCK: We are happy to 19 entertain any questions that the public may have 20 or that the Plan Commission may have. That ends 21 our presentation. 22 We would ask that the Plan 23 Commission favorably recommend annexation of this 24 property to the United City of Yorkville and Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 53 July 26, 2006 1 recommend the approval of the zoning to B -3 2 Service Business zoning classification. Thank 3 you. 4 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. I would 5 entertain any questions or comments from the 6 public on this. I 7 WHEREUPON: 8 DON PETERSON, 9 having been first duly sworn, testified before 10 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 11 MR. PETERSON: Good evening. My 12 name is Don Peterson. I live on Bristol Ridge 13 Road. I have lived there for 30 years, seen a 14 lot of changes in the county. 15 Most of those changes, 16 unfortunately, have been bringing in people and 17 not bringing in jobs; they have been bringing in 18 people and homes, but not bringing in commercial 19 or businesses. 20 This particular development I 21 believe is in the right place at the right time 22 to do the right thing for what we need to do on 23 Route 34. We don't need homes up and down 34 -- 24 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: 47. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 �'I Yorkville Plan Commission 54 July 26, 2006 1 MR. KRAUPNER: 47. 2 MR. PETERSON: 47. Only 30 years, 3 you get confused after that length of time. So I 4 am completely in favor of this type of 5 development. 6 I don't know this particular 7 development and what they are going to put in 8 there, but this type of thing along the 47 9 corridor I think is the appropriate thing to do. 10 I want to go one step forward, 11 past that. I understand that part of this may be 12 developed as a water park, and that's what I 13 really want to talk about. 14 Yorkville has been bypassed by 15 a lot of things because we weren't ready to reach 16 out and grasp the opportunity. 17 I think a water park or 18 anything like that in this area would be ideal 19 for our community. 20 We have people coming in by the 21 thousands, but we have nothing for them to do 22 once they get here, and my children, my 23 grandchildren, and hopefully my great 24 grandchildren would very much appreciate having a Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 55 July 26, 2006 1 water park like development. 2 It doesn't have to be by this 3 company or anything else, but something of that 4 nature in this area. And if it's going to come 5 in this area, then that corner is the perfect 6 place for it to be. Thank you for your time. 7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank 8 you. Other comments? Lady in the second row. 9 WHEREUPON: 10 ALICE BERTRAM, 11 having been first duly sworn, testified before 12 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 13 MS. BERTRAM: I am Alice Bertram, 14 Mrs. Red Bertram. I live up on Galena Road. As 15 far as the water park is concerned, it would be 16 right across the street from me, and I'm not 17 enthralled with the idea. 18 However, what I am wondering -- 19 I mean, we are talking about 47 widening. What 20 about our road, Galena Road? Something has to be 21 done. 22 There are times I can't get out 23 of my driveway because -- especially when 24 Caterpillar is changing shifts, and if you're Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 56 July 26, 2006 1 going to put an access to a water park on Galena 2 Road along with the other expansion that's going 3 on on our former farm, I think you better think 4 seriously about Galena Road. 5 I don't know how you are going 6 to do it. I realize you can't get unlimited 7 access from 47, but something needs to be done. 8 There's been terrible 9 accidents, as you all know, right down on the 10 corner, and I live close enough to hear all of 11 those sirens, believe me, and it scares me. So 12 that -- that's what I am trying to bring to your 13 attention. 14 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank 15 you. Let's just see. John Whitehouse, do you 16 have any idea if there is any plans for Galena 17 Road at all? 18 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Other than Fran 19 Klaas' typical requirement as he has been doing 20 up and down Galena Road and all county highways 21 is requiring the 60 and a half foot right -of -way 22 designation or he has 120 feet of right -of -way 23 for improvements. 24 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: So that would Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 57 July 26, 2006 1 come off of this property as well. 2 MR. WHITEHOUSE: That would come off 3 this property as well. 4 MR. PETERSON: I think the 5 improvements are already on their way for that 6 because I know in front of my place they are 7 going through there, and on across the road they 8 are also. 9 But, however, what I am talking 10 about isn't necessarily water and sewer, I am 11 talking about traffic. 12 MR. WHITEHOUSE: No, and what I am 13 talking about is the right -of -way for future road 14 improvements. 15 MR. PETERSON: Okay. 16 MR. WHITEHOUSE: And although the 17 widening to three lanes and the turn lane 18 installation for Turtle Bay Drive doesn't, you 19 know, help you get out of your driveway because 20 there is no signal -- 21 MR. PETERSON: Right. 22 MR. WHITEHOUSE: -- at that 23 location, which doesn't cause the breal�, we are 24 looking at -- part of this Route 47 is obviously Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 58 July 26, 2006 1 intersection improvements at Galena Road, the 2 Westbury Villages development, and the other 3 property on the north side are looking at 4 five -lanes at that intersection west of 47. 5 There will be some improvement to the east. 6 The timing of the widening to 7 five lanes on Galena Road is going to be up to 8 the Kendall County Highway Department. 9 Kendall County has instituted, 10 you know, their impact fee. 11 MAYOR PROCHASKA: Right. 12 MR. WHITEHOUSE: That is -- I 13 believe the City Council has the agreement that 14 fees collected in Yorkville go to highways in 15 Yorkville, so that would help promote and push 16 forward the timeline for other improvements. 17 MR. PETERSON: Because it's both 18 east and west of 47. 19 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Oh, absolutely. 20 Yes. 21 MR. PETERSON: Okay. Thank you. 22 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Thank you, Ms. 23 Bertram. 24 Art, did you have any further Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 59 July 26, 2006 1 comment? 2 MAYOR PROCHASKA: John kind of 3 covered what I was going to say. John, as you 4 may recall, we entered into an intergovernmental 5 agreement for the fee for improvement of county 6 roads, and I believe Galena Road is one of the 7 Roads they have identified for use of those 8 funds, and in our agreement it says that anything 9 collected in Yorkville we are able to use on 10 county roads within Yorkville, so that would be 11 one of the roads that we would look at using 12 those fees towards. 13 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. I think 14 there is one gentleman that had his hand up. 15 MR. SLOUCER: Again, Tom Sloucer, 58 16 South Royal Oaks Drive, in Bristol. Just real 17 quickly, I'll try to be very brief. 18 I am opposed to the rezoning of 19 this particular property for B -3 use. I think 20 one of the things that you need to look at is ask 21 yourself the question why do people move to 22 Yorkville, why do they move to this area. 23 They move here because it's a 24 quaint, very nice, quiet community. With the big Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 60 July 26, 2006 1 business development up on 47 and Galena Road, as 2 someone pointed out, we're going to attract 3 people from outside this area into this area. 4 Our roads are already crowded. 5 Our crime rate is probably fairly good right now, 6 but we will be bringing people from other 7 communities, and let's face it, it's going to 8 happen. 9 It's not really going to be 10 desirable for the area. Not to mention the 11 traffic. I know someone has a concern about 12 Galena Road. I share that concern as well. So 13 traffic is a concern. 14 Don't underestimate the impact 15 of the water usage. This particular unit I 16 understand is going to use one million gallons of 17 water per day. That's a lot of water. 18 I myself have a private well, I 19 don't happen to be a city well, so that does have 20 a potential impact for me. Maybe not today, 21 maybe not tomorrow, but maybe down the road. 22 That's something to really 23 consider. I think this is a great community to 24 live in. I wouldn't live here if I did. And I Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 61 July 26, 2006 1 am really opposed to this rezoning bringing in 2 businesses that are going to attract people from 3 outside the area. 4 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank 5 you. In the very back row. 6 MR. WHITEHOUSE: Tom, may I make one 7 clarification based on Mr. Sloucer's comment? I 8 believe it's a million gallons per year. A 9 million gallons per day would never fly in 10 Yorkville. 11 MR. SLOUCER: Okay. I misspoke 12 then. My wife told me it was a year. I got that 13 wrong. 14 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Back row. 15 WHEREUPON: 16 BIRGETTE PETERSON, 17 having been first duly sworn, testified before 18 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 19 MS. PETERSON: My name is Birgette 20 Peterson. I have lived for 30 plus years on 21 Bristol Ridge Road and the corner of Sunset. 22 I have seen once I started from 23 a little county road, which Bristol Ridge Road 24 used to be, to being a Yorkville city collector Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 62 July 26, 2006 1 Road. 2 For four years I have lived in 3 a very, very confutious (sic), ridiculous 4 environment between a lot of construction, a lot 5 of hassle, a lot of new businesses, a lot of new 6 peoples, a lot of new schools, and a heck of a 7 lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, new children. 8 I raised five sons from 1976 to 9 1986. I shuttled them in the big red station 10 wagon down to East Main Street in Yorkville to 11 the little city pool, took them there at nine 12 o'clock in the morning, picked them up at 12, I 13 took them back at one o'clock, picked them back 14 up at eight o'clock in the evening because I had 15 five of them, anywhere between 75 cents and a 16 buck per child, or I believe it was about $12 a 17 family pass. 18 Well, for years we, the old 19 timers here in the county and in the city of 20 Yorkville, do not have this opportunity anymore 21 unless we want to pay thousands of dollars on 22 members now for the grandkids, and, you know, 23 Yorkville always and Kendall County has done 24 everything for the children, and, therefore, I Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 I Yorkville Plan Commission 63 July 26, 2006 1 really would like to ask the City Council and 2 many of also the school board members or the 3 liaisons for the school board to the City Council 4 and to the zonings to consider to do something 5 what everybody enjoys. 6 Yes, we want businesses, we 7 want people to come from other towns, we want 8 them to go to Jewel shopping where there is 9 another one five miles down the road. We want 10 them to go to Bath & Beyond or Kohl's or 11 Meijer's, what is very -- but why don't we get 12 something go in the morning, go home in the 13 evenings leave, get money, don't bring the kids, 14 but have existing taxpayers have to pass if they 15 like to pass or not pass the referendums. 16 I would like to ask as a 17 grandmother of 11, with nine of my grandchildren 18 being in the Yorkville, Kendall County area, to 19 consider a water park or bigger entertainment 20 center for the existing residents which do not 21 have clubhouses, which do not have, but have put 22 up for years now with the inconvenience that all 23 the new people that do have those luxuries, they 24 have the money, not that I want to trade my acre Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 64 July 26, 2006 1 for three houses on one acre either, but I 2 really, really, really would like to have you all 3 consider to take a look into it and let the 4 people make their proposal and see what comes of 5 it. I think we need it in Yorkville. It's for 6 our children. I think it is just as much as an 7 addition as the library or the kindergarten 8 school. Thank you. 9 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Thank you. Lady 10 back in the back there. 11 WHEREUPON: 12 KATE BUSCHKOPF, 13 having been first duly sworn, testified before 14 the Yorkville Plan Commission as follows: 15 MS. BUSCHKOPF: I am Kate Buschkopf. 16 I am a new resident to Yorkville, and I just 17 wanted to also say that I agree with the rezoning 18 of that property along 47 as commercial. 19 I'm not sure what the different 20 types of zoning are, I am not familiar with all 21 the details, but I just -- I know that part of 22 that is part of the proposed water park, and I 23 would also like to -- I would just like to bring 24 to the attention of the residents that I don't Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 65 July 26, 2006 1 think that people are realizing this is not going 2 to be necessarily a pool where you can drop off 3 your kids, where you can have a swim meet, where 4 you can have all, you know, that kind of thing. 5 It's not like the kind of thing 6 where you walk across the street and spend a few 7 hours. It's a tourism factor. And I want to 8 make sure that we are doing all the research, 9 that we are not bringing something here for the 10 tourism, we are bringing something for the 11 residents. 12 So that's the main concern, we 13 are not bringing loads of people from out of town 14 for tourism and there is still no place for 15 residents to have a swim meet or send their kids 16 for the afternoon. Thank you. 17 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank 18 you. Any other comments? 19 (No Response) 20 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Okay. Hearing 21 none then, I would entertain a motion to adjourn 22 the public hearing. 23 MS. LUCIETTO: So moved. 24 MS. ADAMS: Second. Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 66 July 26, 2006 1 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Moved and 2 seconded. Any further discussion on the motion? 3 (No Response) 4 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Hearing none, 5 those in favor signify by saying aye. 6 (A Chorus of Ayes) 7 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Opposed? 8 (No Response) 9 CHAIRMAN LINDBLOM: Motion passes. 10 (Which were all the 11 proceedings had in 12 the public hearing.) 13 --- 000 - -- 14 i 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 67 July 26, 2006 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS ) ss: 2 COUNTY OF LASALLE ) 3 4 CHRISTINE M. VITOSH, being first duly 5 sworn, on oath says that she is a Certified 6 Shorthand Reporter doing business in the State of 7 Illinois; 8 That she reported in shorthand the 9 proceedings had at the foregoing public hearing; 10 And that the foregoing is a true and 11 correct transcript of her shorthand notes so 12 taken as aforesaid and contains all the 13 proceedings had at the said public hearing. 14 IN WITNESS WHEREOF I have hereunto set 15 my hand his —& day of 16 , 2 0 0 6 . 17 18 19 20 CHRISTINE M. 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40:11, nine 62:11, 63:17 Middle 17:9, 22:18 42:21, 43:6, 43:8, No. 67:24 < M > miles 63:9 43:9, 43:10, 43:11, non - residential M. 1:8, 67:6, 67:23 MILLER 2:10, 36:23, 43:12, 43:14, 43:16, 37:12, 46:20 Main 18:3, 23:23, 37:22, 37:23, 39:2, 43:21, 55:13, 58:22, none 32:2, 32:18, 26:8, 62:10, 65:12 39:12 61:19,64:15, 65:23, 35:16, 40:16, 43:4, mains 48:15, 48:17 million 12:15, 60:16, 65:24 44:2, 65:21, 66:4 maintenance 38:8 61:8, 61:9 multi - disciplinary North 6:18, 16:4, major 47:5 mind 4:8, 41:18 21:19 17:9, 22:18, 33:10, majority 36:2, 41:15 minimal 41:4 multi - family 36:11 36:24, 45:14, 45:19, manage 9:20 minimum 19:11, multi - person 8:20 48:15, 58:3 management 49:3 37:17 multi -plex 19:16, north /south 18:15 manager 36:1 minute 4:18 19:20,19:21 northwest 16:4, map 50:17 minutes 3:18, 6:24, multiple 9:9 36:24 market 25:22, 28:3, 7:1, 21:8, 22:5, myself 60:18 note 12:20, 25:24 47:6 27:16, 45:7 notes 67:13 master 14:3, 25:8 misspoke 61:11 Nothing 23:22, matter 1:7, 49:7, misunderstood < N > 54:21 50:21, 50:24 39:22 name 4:12, 7:8, number 6:7, 50:22 maximize 49:11 mix 23:18, 23:20, 27:13, 30:22, 33:19, nutshell 21:1 maximum 19:12 24:2 35:24, 53:12, 61:19 MAYOR 42:9, 47:9, Mixed 26:6 names 6:9 47:11, 47:24, 58:11, Mogle 39:18 Naperville 45:11 < O > 59:2 money 63:13, 63:24 National 27:22 o'clock 62:12, 62:13, Mchugh 33:10, Montgomery 15:6 nationally 27:21 62:14 37:16 month 7:20 nature 55:4 O keefe 4:19, 44:8, Meadows 36:9 months 8:6 near 45:21 45:12, 48:8 mean 19:16, 30:10, monumentation necessarily 57:10, OA 12:13 39:3, 39:6, 51:14, 22:6 65:2 Oaks 30:23, 59:16 51:14, 51:22, 55:19 morning 62:12, need 11:21, 12:17, oath 67:7 means 51:5, 51:15 63:12 42:13, 42:16, 47:19, objections 5:7, 5:10 measure 11:4 mostly 25:15 49:6, 53:22, 53:23, obtained 38:5 media 7:17 Motion 3:2, 3:4, 59:20, 64:5 obviously 40:1, median - divided 18:8 32:2, 32:16, 32:23, needed 11:23 57:24 median -type 18:7 35:17, 40:9, 40:14, needs 50:14, 56:7 occupy 41:14 meet 65:3, 65:15 40:21, 42:8, 42:20, neighborhood Ocean 6:8, 6:21, MEETING 1:1, 1:6, 42:21, 42:24, 43:2, 19:24, 23:21, 23:23, 7:13, 8:11, 12:12 38:12, 52:3 43:17, 43:19, 44:7, 46:14 offering 13:5 Meijer 63:11 65:21, 66:2, 66:9 Nelson 16:2 offers 13:13 members 27:2, move 28:12, 48:3, network 18:2, 18:13 office 26:8, 26:11, 62:22, 63:2 48:5, 59:21, 59:22, new 11:17, 31:17, 34:6, 34:11, 41:7, Menard 36:1, 37:15 59:23 62:5, 62:5, 62:6, 41:13, 41:15, 47:11 mention 31:1, 60:10 Moved 3:3, 3:8, 32:4, 62:7, 63:23, 64:16 Offices 7:9, 24:1, mentioned 10:23, 32:6, 40:11, 40:13, Next 15:17, 16:5, 24:1, 45:10 20:10, 20:22, 39:20, 43:21, 43:23, 65:23, 17:6,17:14, 21:2, Okay 5:3, 5:19, 49:16 66:1 30:17, 36:10 28:16, 30:6, 30:15, met 39:17 moving 38:5 nice 59:24 32:1, 33:13, 35:10, MICHAEL 2:8 MS 2:4, 2:5, 2:11, nicer 13:12, 26:3 38:17, 40:3, 40:5, Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 Yorkville Plan Commission 76 July 26, 2006 40:22, 42:4, 42:19, < P > payers 31:9 Plan 1:1, 7:6, 8:16, 42:24, 45:2, 52:16, P.M. 1:9 PC 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Plan Commission 77 July 26, 2006 Prairie 36:9 48:13 radius 48:17 regard 47:22 preliminary 17:19 proposal 64:4 raise 4:11, 5:9, 6:3 regarding 28:17, present 5:2, 8:1, proposed 4:21, 5:9, raised 62:8 38:12 9:15 9:10, 37:21, 38:8, ranches 25:9 regional 14:18, 15:8, presentation 7:17, 38:11, 64:22 range 19:11, 20:17 48:22, 50:12, 50:23 8:2, 8:19, 8:20, 9:3, proposing 19:7 ranging 25:13 relate 52:5, 52:13 9:13, 9:16, 9:22, provide 12:18, 13:7 rate 60:5 remain 10:4, 31:10 10:17, 19:23, 50:6, public 3:2, 3:9, 3:22, rather 8:1 remainder 17:20 52:21 4:19, 4:24, 5:6, ratifying 35:2 remaining 14:24, presenting 14:4, 23:10, 23:13, 27:2, reach 54:15 15:15, 15:24, 36:18, 17:16 28:17, 32:3, 32:14, read 4:21, 6:9 38:7 presently 34:3 32:24, 35:13, 38:10, reading 3:24 remember 41:8 President 13:23 38:12, 40:10, 43:19, reads 45:17 repeatedly 11:20 pretty 31:11, 41:4 52:19, 53:6, 65:22, ready 9:18, 54:15 REPORT 1:6 previously 10:3, 66:12, 67:11, 67:15 real 6:16, 33:8, 36:1, reported 67:10 47:9 PUD 7:20, 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bristol ultimate 10:16 67:23 28:24, 30:18, 33:15, 49:5 ultimately 11:3, voluntarily 12:4 35:19, 44:22, 50:1, younger 25:20 34:9, 37:5, 38:14 vote 12:12 53:7, 55:9, 61:15, yourself 59:21 underestimate 64:11 60:14 white 29:6 understand 36:7, <W> WHITEHOUSE - < Z > { 54:11, 60:16 wagon 62:10 56:15, 56:18, 57:2, Zanck 33:16, 33:19, understood 31:16 waiting 47:18 57:12, 57:16, 57:22, 33:19 unfold 38:13, 39:7 walk 65:6 58:12, 58:19, 61:6 zoned 34:3, 34:6, unfortunately 53:16 walkable 20:8 whole 51:1 46:1 UNIDENTIFIED wanted 13:9, 28:10, wide 18:6 zoning 5:1, 5:5, 29:20, 29:24 64:17 widening 12:5, 6:13, 8:5, 34:2, 35:8, unique 12:17, 28:2, wants 28:6, 52:6, 55:19, 57:17, 58:6 37:1, 42:14, 46:4, 28:4 52:6, 52:10 width 37:18 53:1, 53:2, 64:20 Unit 6:13, 60:15 warn 21:7 wife 61:12 zonings 63:4 United 1:2, 2:14, warned 21:13 WILLIAMS 9:14, 6:10, 6:12, 33:3, Washington 8:24 27:10, 27:13, 27:14, 33:4, 33:6, 33:10, watch 7:1 27:17 < Dates > 44:10, 44:12, 44:14, Water 4:21, 5:2, 5:4, willing 51:3, 51:11 july 26, 2006 1:8, 52:24 5:6, 5:8, 5:11, 45:10, wishes 4:3, 5:24 1:8,1:8 units 20:16, 20:18, 48:14, 48:14, 48:15, within 15:15, 49:4, 20:19, 24:3, 24:7, 48:17, 48:19, 54:12, 59:10 25:22, 26:10, 31:4 54:17, 55:1, 55:15, Without 8:9 Unless 30:13, 62:21 56:1, 57:10, 60:15, WITNESS 67:16 unlimited 56:6 60:17, 60:17, 63:19, Witnesses 6:6 urban 21:20 64:22 wondering 55:18 usage 60:15 ways 48:5 words 4:1, 50:8 Depo Court Reporting Service (630) 983 -0030 CANNONBALL TRAIL CIVIC LEAGUE To: The City of Yorkville Members of the Yorkville Plan Commission Subject: Kendall Marketplace /Cooper Farm Proposed Development Date: July 17, 2006 We are still concerned first of all that the Kendall Marketplace proposal does not meet the specifications of the Comprehensive Plan which shows the majority of the property in the proposal to be "suburban" residential. Residents should be able to trust their governing bodies. Residents look to these comprehensive plans in making decisions about their properties or even before they buy properties in the area. Please see the attached sheet of Yorkville area projects. Number 25 on the sheet is the Kendall Marketplace proposal and it clearly shows in the darker green color that only a strip along Route 34 was planned for commercial. The remainder was to be residential as shown by the lighter green color, which appears to comprise three - fourths of that property. If Yorkville feels that the development must be allowed, the following are things that we need in order to support this development: 1) A relocation of the police station (for reasons cited in our previous letter) (Why are citizens in the south part of Yorkville. NOT concerned about this= placing a new station even further north and away from the south side residents ?) 2) Any widening of Cannonball Trail to be done only to the north edge of the development and only on the development's property. (Widening Cannonball further would be an extreme destructive act to the properties as cited in our previous letter.) 3) If the developers are insistent upon the lighting of the buildings rather than no lighting on the east side of the buildings toward Cannonball, then it would seem a 100 -foot setback with a 10 -foot berm with solid plantings would be appropriate. (If the line of stores faced Route 34 and/or were on the Beecher Road side of the development, the lighting of the stores would not be an issue for Cannonball Trail.) A sidewalk. would also be needed for safety since people are seen walking on Cannonball Trail now. Because of the rise the curves on Cannonball, visibility of oncoming cars is limited (as cited in our previous letter). It should be noted that there is NO berming or set back or landscaping in the plan to protect the historic Wadsworth property directly across from the proposed police station site. There needs to be some guarantee of berming, landscaping, and setbacks for that section on Cannonball as well. As the plan currently shows, lights from cars exiting. the road shown in that area would shine directly into the house on the Wadsworth property. 4) Only one entrance on Cannonball and that should be lined up with one of the entrances from Cannonball onto the PUD property on the northeast corner of Route 34 and Cannonball. We still have the following unanswered questions: If Beecher is to be one of the main entrances to the development, why weren't the stores placed along Beecher rather than Cannonball? Why is Home Depot shown facing Cannonball? The retention area could have been placed along the Cannonball Trail side as further buffering since no transitional zoning has yet been offered there as has been proposed on the north side of the proposed development. Second unanswered question: Why aren't these developments being proposed for the areas further east on either side of Route 47 near Route 34 where the infrastructure is already in place and zoning is already appropriate and there are not well established neighborhoods being disrupted? Your further consideration of our concerns would be greatly appreciated. We appreciate the understanding of our concerns that was shown in the July 12, 2006, meeting. We trust that your decisions will truly reflect what is best for ALL of the Yorkville community. Cannon all Trail Civic League Copy to: Richard Filler, Irving James Snyder, Harlem, Irving Lynn Dubajic, Yorkville EDC list •4 1 ills - ' I _ � mnllr^...��I► ice. ' - I ■1 .. 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