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Plan Council Minutes 2008 01-24-08 APPROVED `,�tiD C/Tr �a o� Memorandum To: Plan Council Members EST , leas From: Stephanie Boettcher, Senior Planner CC: Annette Williams,Administrative Assistant(For Distribution) Date: February 4, 2008 Subject: January 24, 2008 Plan Council Minutes CE Attendees: Joe Wywrot, City Engineer Stephanie Boettcher, Senior Planner Travis Miller,Dir. of Community Development Jackie Dearborn,Civil Engineer Dave Mogle,Dir. Parks&Recreation Eric Dhuse,Dir. of Public Works Brendan McLaughlin,City Administrator Anna Kurtzman,Zoning Coordinator William Dunn, Engineering Consultant(EEI) Ron Diederich,Dir.Yorkville Police Guests: Kelly Kramer, Attorney(Law Offices of Dan Kramer) Emo Furfori, Schoppe Design Associates T. Porino,Jake Land Mike Schoppe, Schoppe Design Associates Mike Mueller, Cemcon Ltd. The meeting was called to order at 9:07 am by Joe Wywrot. The December 13, 2007 minutes were approved as amended. Hattner Annexation and Zoning The petitioner gave a brief description of the two concept plans for the 80 acre subject property. Concept A has approximately 14 acres of commercial, 70 townhomes and 90 single family lots. Concept B has 28 acres of commercial, 70 townhomes, and 58 single family lots. Both concepts had two access points, one on Penman Road and the other on Route 47. The transitional use of townhomes is to never to exceed 14 acres,but the petitioner would like flexibility to allow end user to increase or decrease commercial as desired. Travis Miller commented that Concept A fit better into the Comprehensive Plan. He also suggested that the commercial retail be changed to commercial office which would fit better with the residential lots on the property. The commercial buildings should follow the same architectural guidelines/style to the residential buildings. Joe Wywrot acknowledged that the closest collector road would be Wheeler. He also commented that approximately 0.25—0.5 acres in the southwest corner of the property should be reserved for a pumping station. Anna Kurtzman commented that spacing, specifically for the townhomes, should be included in the terms of the P.U.D agreement. Travis Miller commented that both concept plans should show trails running the length of Route 47 and Penman Road. He also mentioned that since the petitioner had not been in touch with the Aux Sable Group from the Conservation Foundation, that recommendations given by that group for the property should be included in the P.U.D agreement for implementation on the subject property. Note: Proposed trail along north side of Aux Sable Creek should also be included in the concept plans and in the P.U.D. agreement to be consistent with the Trails Plan. Joe Wywrot had concerns with the access to the first lots from the Penman and recommended a shared lot,removal of the lots, or the removal of the boulevard feature at the entrance/exit from Penman. Brendan McLaughlin commented that Concept Plan B has a better road alignment which allows for road sharing ability for the parcel north of the subject property. He suggested that this road alignment be used for both concept plans and allows for less traffic thru the townhome acreage. He also mentioned that additional single family homes are better for the community and a less intense commercial use is easier to step directly to single family without needing townhomes. Eric Dhuse mentioned that there is a ComED right of way on the east side of Route 47, so there will be additional right of way running the length of Route 47 on the subject property. Travis Miller requested that since the petitioner was not comfortable with removing the townhomes, since they do not have an end user,that the petitioner should prepare a third option without the townhomes and show all three to the plan commission. The P.U.D. agreement should also be structured to give preference to single family. Brendan McLaughlin mentioned that green design should be encouraged for the subject property. This item will be on the February 13, 2008 Plan Commission Agenda and the February 281h Park Board Agenda. The petitioner is also responsible for resubmitting three concept plans (Plan A to be revised with road realignment and Plan C created which does not have townhomes) by February 1, 2008. Shonnes South of the Fox(Windmill Farms) The petitioner presented 4 concept plans for the subject property. The petitioner addressed the major changes made since the initial concept plan was brought before Plan Council and Plan Commission in July/August 2007. The changes consistent on all of the concept plans are a revised internal roadway network along with increased spacing of 750' between full access points along Route 126. Lot 25 was identified as a difficult parcel since the property adjacent to it is not included in the subject property. The difference between all four concept plans is the reconfiguration of the assisted living facility,townhomes and offices uses in the southwest comer of the subject property. The roadway running along the southern portion of the property west of Route 126 was identified as a potential"cut-thru." Joe Wywrot commented that that the full access point could be moved to the southern part of lot 25; however it would reduce the spacing between the full access points. Travis Miller mentioned that the banquet facility, seen on plan C,could tie into the retail on lots 23 and 24,allowing for the potential for the roadway to be omitted. Eric Dhuse identified the road linking the subject property to RainTree Village, south of the property,has multiple access points along what could become a thru road, along with massive driveway cuts for the townhomes as seen on Concept Plan C. It was decided that this road should be designed to discourage thru traffic. Anna Kurtzman identified that the assisted living facility should be better integrated as part of the plan. There should be a synergy between the assisted living and the commercial particularly the restaurant uses and the daycare. The concept plans need to identify pedestrian linkages between these facilities. The development should take on a town center feeling with the assisted living facility being a thread. The assisted living facility also has the ability to share r parking with commercial or office uses which should be addressed in the P.U.D agreement language. Travis Miller stated that all of the concept plans were lacking a civic feel and were very conventional. He emphasized that he did not want to miss out on a special opportunity not only for Yorkville,but also for the developer. Anna Kurtzman questioned how the non-included parcels in the subject property can be potentially integrated into the property at a later time. She mentioned that access should be required for lot 25 along with suggesting that an attempt should be made to acquire non-included parcels prior to the development east of Route 126 developing. It was confirmed to the petitioner that a recapture agreement was appropriate for this issue. William Dunn stated that the full access point is very important especially since the petitioner does not have lot 17 included in project. The petitioner mentioned that IDOT was comfortable with the spacing of 750',but Dunn pointed out that the petitioner would need a full commitment from IDOT prior to securing retailers for the property. Joe Wywrot inquired about offsite alignment studies,particularly seeing an aerial for Penman road alignment. A 10' trail should be included on the east side of Route 126, even for non-included parcels. Also,the petitioner should provide an internal circulation plan. Dave Mogle stated that a trail would be desired along Penman Road as it aligns with the forest preserve. Anna Kurtzman questioned the petitioner about architectural features and how the property will tie together. She informed the petitioner to think about signage as the sign ordinance is currently being revised along with making mention of special uses (gas station and daycare) in the P.U.D. agreement. Joe Wywrot mentioned there potentially may be a lift station onsite,but the property located south of Route 126 can use gravity for sewer. Reference the Regional Water Main Plan which states there is a need for a booster station in the area. Petitioner to provide two concept plans(concept plan 1 and concept plan 2) to the Plan Commission on February 13, 2008 and the Park Board on February 28,2008. The petitioner does not need to resubmit plans; however staff will recommend at plan commission that the concept plans resemble a town center. A meeting with IDOT will be set up following Plan Commission and City Council meetings in February. Yorkville Town Center Tabled until the February 14,2008 Plan Council Meeting.