Plan Council Minutes 2007 02-22-07 ARMOPlan Council
Feb.22,2007
Attendees:
Joe Wywrot, City Engineer Travis Miller, Community Dev. Director
Anna Kurtzman,Zoning Coordinator Charles Wunder,Urban Planner
Bill Dunn,EEI Dave Mogle,Ex.Director of Parks&Rec
Eric Dhuse,Public Works Director Ralph Pfister,YBSD
Tim Fairfield,BKFD
Guests:
James Osagie,His Grace Christian Victoria Omoike,His Grace Christian
Rich Guerard,Wyndham Deerpoint Bill Zalewski,Jacob&Heftier
Scott Guerard,Wyndham Deerpoint Dave Wadsen,Landvision
Rich Olson, GRWA Dean Tomich,DTD Investments
Mike Schoppe, Schoppe Design Todd Rogers,Merit Corp.
Tony Graff,MTG Land&Dev. LLC John Philipchuck,DBC&W,Ltd.
Carrie Hansen,Wiseman Hughes Dave Schultz, Smith Engineering
The meeting was called to order at 9:30 am by Joe Wywrot. The Feb. 8 minutes were approved
as corrected.
His Grace Daycare Montessori—Special Use
Charley Wunder stated DCFS requires an outdoor play area and the area surrounding it,
which will be fenced,on Appendix F.The play area will have a removable tent for shade per
Victoria Omoike. The building is being leased with an option to buy,hopefully for long term
use.
Travis Miller stated he needs the measurements for the playground and the route to the
playground from the building. Clear delineation will be needed across the parking lot.
If this is approved by Pl. Commission and City Council,the site plan for permit will
require detail according to scale and showing utilities,building features nearby—especially near
the playground.
Anna Kurtzman stated the petitioner will,at full capacity,will have 30 employees with
only 18-19 parking places.Applicant indicated that the 30 employees will not all be present at
one time. The 18-19 spaces will be adequate when employees are present. Ten are allowed for
drop off.
The landscape ordinance is not applicable for this special use application per Travis
Miller. Joe Wywrot mentioned the plastic factory across the street which sometimes has
noticeable odors.
This is scheduled for Plan Commission on March 14.
York Wood Estates—Preliminary PUD Plan
Bill Dunn thanked Rich Guerard for his help for access to the site while working on the
elevated tank, east of lots 28-32. He is asking for additional topography information for storm
water flows, south of Route 71.This could require significant changes in grading. The petitioner
will provide additional topography at final engineering. Street lighting needs to be illustrated.
Bill Zalewski stated they are trying to preserve trees, and there are sections with a 10%grade
profiles. Mr.Miller asked the petitioner to file now for the ordinance variances needed to
maximize tree preservation.
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Rich Guerard stated the park area could be shifted to one side or expanded so the swale
does not go through the center. The park area is to provide a main entry way to the subdivision.
Mr. Guerard showed pictures of Tall Oaks Subdivision in Elgin,where each pad is
designed because of the trees needed to save. In the Elgin subdivision,the developer was creative,
with utilities(either in front or back)and sidewalks. Also the Elgin project there is a street,
measuring 26' back to back and there is"separation"of the houses instead of setbacks to save
trees.
The developer will prepare a plan for each lot,including drainage.
Rich Guerard has a tree survey complete and will provide a tree protection plan. They
will try to preserve as many trees as possible. Mr. Guerard,regarding the 10 foot path,does not
want to be responsible for replacing trees in the path, and is proposing a five foot wood chip path.
There is a change in the plan,with the addition of Open space 6,because there was a
large grove of trees. There is frontage on the street.
There will be a sidewalk along Rt. 71. There should be no entry way sign in the blanket
easement or in the right of way in the island.
The water tower will be fenced. Approximate 150 x 100 ft. will be the dimensions of the
lot. There will be an access road near lot 34. There is approximately a 10' drop in the ground
around the tower and the ground near the closest home in Timber Creek Subdivision.
There will be two accesses into this subdivision for fire protection. The second would be
dependent on the build out for Timber Creek.
Rich Guerard is asking the park district to pay for connecting the 10'trail at Brighton
Oaks. If the park district is not willing,the developer would approach the city regarding a 5'
trail. Dave Mogle wants to keep the city trail standards at the connection points on the north and
south. Mr. Guerard will recalculate the park donation and bring it back to the park board. The
path from York Wood Estates, in the southeast comer, is connected to York Wood Estates.
This will be at the Plan Commission meeting at March 14.
DTD Investments (Hanson Property)Annexation/Zoning-Fountainview
Mr. Graff stated they are obtaining an easement from the county and are on the schedule
for the next executive session at the Kendall Co.board meeting. When this property is assigned a
transfer out of the county it will become a right of way. It will be in the easement document at the
county. The lean to building needs access for the roadway for use by county trucks.Fran Klaas
will agree to whatever site distance the City assigns here. The building is 5' feet of curb,curb
and gutter will be built and a sidewalk. This obligation,negotiated with Fran Klaas,will be
transferred to the property's new owners. Mr. Graff said there would be a monetary value
assigned to use for a new storage shed.No utilities will be established on the south side,and
easements will be on the north.
This is currently zoned business in the county and Tony Graff gave the correction to city
staff today,which was listed incorrectly in the public notice. Dr.Davis needs cross access on the
private easement road(to the east)into the property.Dedication of the roadway on the south, and
when this is triggered,will be discussed by city staff. The road will be maintained by the
developer until dedicated to the City. The existing well will be maintained until a new water
main is in. The electric may be stubbed out with the water main service.
Tony Graff said the county is not interested in annexing the entire easement.Joe Wywrot
suggested only a strip would be annexed. Mr. Graff asked about the fees for hookup when the
septic system is gone and connection to sanitary is completed.
Anna Kurtzman asked if lot 2 would be landlocked if there is no public right of way on
this lot, allowing no set backs. Tony Graff stated they would address in the annexation agreement,
identifying standards for the public roads for purposes of setbacks.
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Additional variances will be 1)landscaping on the county side,asking that parkway trees
not be planted on the county side,until the property is transferred and right of way is determined;
and 2)the county would like dollars for recapture when transfer is complete. Joe Wywrot
suggested a separate recapture agreement with the county if the developer extends the sewer line
and water main.
The name of the development is Fountainview and the street entering it will be called
Fountainview Drive.
Joe Wywrot asked for road connections to the north and east, and wants to know what
type of roads these would be.The developer will meet with Dr. Davis. The storm water
management area to the north all drains to the northeast. The basin represents the high side of
property to the northwest.
Dave Mogle suggested trail in lieu of sidewalk along Rt.47 for bicycling into town.
IDOT is making property acquisitions and it can impact the width of paths or sidewalks. Tony
Graff stated IDOT will allow pedestrian ways within their right of ways on Rt.47. Consistency is
needed along the route.Mike Schoppe stated there would be not loss of lot utility if the trail is
along Rt. 47. City staff will meet in Springfield on March 27 with IDOT regarding Route 47
improvements.
Eric Dhuse will check into access into the water tower,coming off a private street. Dr.
Davis also needs a field access.
The Hanson house will be burned down,with cooperation of the Yorkville Bristol Fire
Department.
This will be at the March 14 Plan Commission.
Townes at Windett Reserve Final Plat
The title on the EEI comment will be changed to reflect"final"engineering and plat.
Needed are IDOT certification and ingress/egress easements over lots 11-15 lots. He asked for a
license agreement for the Com Ed right of way.
Regarding comment#33,David Schultz said there will be a ditch and cross culvert where
the road is. At the intersection of Rd.A and Rt.47,Mr. Schultz stated the 16"would end at the
junction of the two inch twelve feeds. Mr. Schultz is not suggesting a 16"should run down the
collector road. Regarding comment 10,he will show as a"future connection",platting 10 lots for
development at a future date. This area will be mass graded with interim landscape plan or a
temporary re-spread.Regarding comment 28, (sheet 40)he stated there is dry basin here.
The 24"interceptor and the fee for developing needs to be determined between the
YBSD and the developer, addressed in the annexation agreement.
Carrie Hansen stated this will be done in phasing,with the school site phase first.The
road way network is uncertain, especially how far Rd.A will go. Ingress and egress easements to
the north and the west of Rt. 47 will be provided. Additional frontage for the park site will be
provided to the city, and the new park development concept in combination with the park to the
north is still under consideration. The school needs two access points to the school.
The trail on the east side of Rt. 47 will be in the ComEd right of way. The city will
maintain the trail within the easement. Travis Miller will speak with Laura Haake regarding the
trail,making a sketch of the alignment of the trail through the development. This may affect
recapture monies noted in the annexation agreement. The city will need a release of liability for
the easement at the trail's end.
Preliminary engineering plans have been submitted to John French at YBSD.
Regarding comment# 10 on the front page of the final plat,Anna Kurtzman questioned
the language regarding the blanket easements on the individual lots where town homes will be
located. There should not be easements on the building lots.
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Ms. Houseman's notes stated that there should be a blanket easement needed where the
monument is placed.
The park dedication may change if the school takes ownership of the property,and this
can be addressed by the deed. Travis Miller said the land cash for the school changed,because
the school is purchasing the property.
This will be at the April 11 Plan Commission.
Kleinwachter Final Plat
This item was removed from the agenda.
Minutes submitted by Annette Williams
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