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Plan Council Minutes 2006 01-26-06 Plan Council - - January 26, 2006 C( Attendees: John Crois, City Administrator John Whitehouse, EEI Travis Miller, Comm. Dev. Director Anna Kurtzman, Zoning official Mike Schoppe, Schoppe Design Scott Sleezer, Dir. of Parks Joe Wywrot, City Engineer Bill Dunn, EEI Sgt. Ron Diederich, Police Dept. Guests: Dan Harper, Kendall Creek Dev. Phil Stuepfert, Smith Engineering David Knott, Kendall Creek Dev. Jim Olguin, GSRNH David Schultz, Smith Engineering Dan Kramer, Attorney John Martin, Huck, Bouman Dwayne Konicek Wayne Konicek Mike Konicek Mike Brandenburg, Tanglewood Bob Nelson, Tanglewood Rodger Brown, Inland Michael Mondus, Spaceco, Inc. Gary Weber, Weber & Assoc. Scott Guerard, Wyndham Deerpoint The Dec. 22 minutes were approved with corrections. Hudson Lakes —Preliminary plan Anna Kurtzman stated lot 178 is not at the end of the cul-de-sac, and the developer will look at rotation of lots 178-182 to bring the width into compliance. (EEI comment #16) John Whitehouse needs additional information including the traffic study, and ADT analysis, a field tile study, and a copy of the NRI. Street names are approved and will be added to the plan. Prestwick's revised plan shows a new route for sanitary and pump station location, which this will be a tributary to. We want to avoid Aux Sable creek pump station temporary solutions, and look for final solutions for wastewater collection. In the city's park development standards, the basin size requirement is two acres. These specifications are applicable to all basins in the city. Any deviations proposed should be addressed in the annexation agreement. Jim Olguin stated the school district does not have a designated site plan for the middle school and they are asking for an additional 10 + acres. At issue is whether all facilities will fit on the site. The north of Penman Rd. has been reconfigured to accommodate traffic, minimizing the access to this 1 major collector. These changes should be incorporated in the preliminary plat for plan council review. Mike Schoppe is proposing that the developer show a secondary maintenance road access through the middle school site. The developer will show frontage (one-half of the lots width) along the south side of the 10 acre site on the preliminary plan, to allow for parking. The school district and the park district may agree on a trail. Scott Sleezer would like to have front funding for the development of the Raintree/Prestwick site. Joe Wywrot suggested the two cul-de-sacs on the northeast side be connected for ease of snow removal. The police would prefer a T intersection at the cul-de-sac, but Mr. Schoppe suggested only 7 lots are serviced and traffic should not be a problem. On the preliminary plat, Astor should be changed to Tremont Street. Joe suggested the developer shorten the northern most cul-de-sac, reducing the pavement and right of way area, and retaining the same number of lots. Setback lines should be noted on the preliminary plat, so there is no question at final plat, which are side, front or rear yards. All ponds are being proposed as wet. The developer will look at additional buffer at the rear of the yards. There will be a sidewalk on one side of Penman and bike path on the south side. This will be on the agenda at the March 9t' plan council. White Pines Farm - Preliminary PUD The developer stated the B-3 will be commercial straight zoning, and the PUD R-2 zoning. Mike Schoppe stated there will need to be a zoning plat, with legal descriptions for the two parcels. The North/South 450' park dimension is in the city standards, and gives the City flexibility to place soccer or ball fields. The developer may eliminate the 90 degree parking spaces and allow for the 450' width. Bob Nelson proposed the park site be relocated to the seven acres green space along Ashe. The vision for this site could include a tower, additional detention, or a church site. Scott Sleezer suggested this park site be discussed at the Park Board, and Bob Nelson proposed V2 land and V2 cash. Additional proposals should be noted on the concept plan. Mr. Schoppe suggested the developer may need to address why additional changes to the street changes were not incorporated. (Comment #4). The City is proposing both the north /south street and east/west entrances as boulevards. Bob Nelson stated the east west avenue was ..._ 2 designed as a gateway to the park. He will show additional trees along the north south route. The developer reduced townhouse number and increases the number of single family units, but may need to address the density. Typically there would be a 5' sidewalk along both Galena and Ashe, and the city okayed a 10' foot asphalt trail in lieu of this. The 13.4 acre basin should be separated with a trail. The City is asking for sidewalk around the park site and directly to the east of the site, connecting to the easterly subdivision (close to the Com Ed easement). The City will consider land cash for trail, and negotiate with the developer and park district. The county will own Ashe Road, with the regional trail along the east side of Eldamain Rd. On the preliminary plan, the right of way dedication on the SE stub is shown. East of there Schultz owns a sliver of land, (which should be shown on the preliminary plat) and there is 400 feet that is Com Ed's easement. Potentially there is will be street extension across Com Ed at the north end into Pulte, a trail connection in the middle, and a street connection at the south end. There is sufficient frontage along Beecher for two entrances and one along Galena, if the county approves. The developer will propose a trail serving both properties along the north side of the Com Ed property. A preliminary PUD plan with detailed typical lot information and building setbacks needs to be submitted. John Whitehouse stated the developer's current separation along Galena road is 1300 feet and the developer may need a variance from the Kendall Co. board, to determine traffic patterns and entrances. The City needs concurrence for access along Baseline, which should be addressed by John Wyeth and Mr. Eichelberger from Sugar Grove. Before City Council approves and annexation, the city would need to see county variance granted. At T intersections, sidewalks should be provided on the top of the T side of the street for cross walks facilitations. The west branch of Rob Roy Creek serves this area, and timing needs to be considered. The developer should contact YBSD, as the only easement currently being sought is across the Bennett property. Bob Nelson has heard no action regarding the FPA amendment and will contact John Frerich at Douche. Water main comes along Galena to the E. Beecher Rd. at Del Webb, and another coming westerly from Bailey Meadows through Pulte property on the north. 3 An alternative storm water discharge is proposed along Galena Rd. to the ditch. The city is proposing a drainage pipe flowing from Galena to the Schultz property swale, across the street from Aurora Blacktop. This change is proposed due to the continuous volume flow along the Galena Rd. ditch. The HOA will have ownership of the southeastern trail. This will be on the plan council agenda on March 9th. Bailey Meadows —Revised Preliminary Plan The developer is asking for additional acreage, in conjunction with a 1:1 compensatory storage ratio. Relocating the access to comply with IDOT's standard, they are requesting two additional commercial lots. Lot 133 initially showed a Nicor pressure reducing statement, which now will be built on the east side of Rt. 47 Currently the commercial property is zoned B-3, so setbacks for the out lots could be included in the amended annexation agreement. In straight zoning, all property is under one ownership, with individual property leasees. Proposed by the City was 1) enlarging Lot 202, then re-subdivision of this lot, when the Schramm strip usage is determined and Rt. 47 accesses are finalized. Or 2) the commercial area can be zoned a PUD with out lots; 3) build with leases with unplatted lots; or 4) subdivide with public streets all on the frontage roads. John Whitehouse stated the water main loops come up from the south across Com Ed. Because of Del Webb proposal to the south, stubbed streets are not proposed to continue from Com Ed to Bailey Meadows, Wainwright Lane and Clarence Lane stubs to the south should be eliminating at final platting, subject to an agreement with Del Webb. Wainwright south of Bedford could be included as a park extension and could be a 60' wide parking, with lot narrowing or realignments. Scott Sleezer stated that a bike path is desirable on the south edge of the property but no agreement with Com Ed right of way has been secured. The City can discuss the trail options with Com Ed, or it could be developed an on street trail. Mike Schoppe discussed the school site proposed in Pulte, west of Lot 190. If Potter Street extends to the west, that would enable additional parking for school activities. Scott Sleezer does not want the school and park site divided by a street. The city will determine road extensions and parking lot at residential final plat. 4 John Whitehouse stated a setback issue from Rob Roy Creek to the commercial area needs to be resolved. In addition,justification for the compensatory storage ratio should be presented to the City. Mike Schoppe recommended that lot 205 be owned by the City. The proposed bike trail has been moved by the developer, to the west of the commercial area. Scott Sleezer will advise the City staff where the trail should cross, so this plan can be approved. The 30' just east of the commercial lots is to the center line of the creek to the west, so no trail could be placed in this property. Mike Schoppe recommended the trails end easement be moved to the east, made a lot, and owned by the city, for usage for signage and parking. This easement will connect to the trail to the west. Anna Kurtzman will check the setbacks. The city is asking for a cross section showing the area along Rob Roy Creek showing grading, vegetation and the proposed storm sewer for IDNR recommendations. A second cross section should be prepared lot 208, from the parking setback to the edge of pavement on Route 47. These will be incorporated on the preliminary engineering plans. A cross section of the trail will be given to the park board. The access to the trailhead is shown through the commercial area. There is a blanket easement over the storm water management area. Mike Schoppe suggested the trailhead be moved to the right This will be on the March 9 agenda for plan council. Caledonia Unit 1 Final Plat The owner of this property has changed. The boundary of the plat is smaller. The petitioner will be submitting separate units. The original final plat has been approved. The proposed portion of the original plat shows no changes, but it is just a different document. Staff acknowledges this Unit 1 is consistent with the final plat that was previously approved. There will be a memo prepared by staff stating that this Unit 1 plat was previously approved for Caledonia. This will be on the agenda for the Feb. 9 Plan Commission. Minutes submitted by Annette Williams 5