Plan Council Minutes 2005 05-12-05 5f a(rloz-
Plan Council
May 12,2005
Staff
Joe Wywrot, City Engineer Sgt. Ron Diederich, Police Dept.
Eric Dhuse, Public Works Director Laura Brown, Dir. of Park& Rec
John Wyeth, City Attorney
Attendees
John Thompson, Retail Focus Kevin Biscan, Smith Engineering
John McVickers, McVickers Dev.
The minutes from the April 14 meeting were approved as written.
XPAC Properties—Preliminary/Final Plat
Anna Kurtz man's comments
Her determination was that the documentation was in compliance with the zoning code
and annexation agreement.
Joe Wywrot's comments
Kevin Biscan stated they had received the IDOT permit based on the plans they
submitted for storm sewer and outfall, with no improvements. Joe Wywrot stated only
the configuration of the pond was approved in January. Joe's concern is the location of
the outfall and the maintenance of the outfall, and that IDOT will need to be contacted
again so Smith and Joe Wywrot have the most recent and correct information.
If IDOT okays the pipe in the current place, Joe is concerned about the location,
maintenance and condition of the current storm water pipe. Joe is concerned it may be
located beneath the sanitary and water main that Mr. McVickers has planned for his
development. IDOT will need to make a determination as to whether or not they will
abandon the current system.
Regarding the current outfall, per Joe Wywrot, Mr. Fenn at IDOT stated from the existing
pond there is a pipe along the west side of Rt. 47 crossing Cannonball. Halfway between
Cannonball and Blackberry Creek it discharges to an IDOT storm sewer. Mr. Wywrot
doubts that the current pipe is an IDOT storm sewer, and that it was probably put in when
the pond was excavated. Mr. Wywrot would like to abandon the current outfall, connect
across 47 to the new IDOT storm sewer that was installed after the flood of`96.
Mr. Wywrot may okay the current outfall only after these considerations: 1) investigate
(slopes,pipe construction material); 2)televise it; 3) set inspection manholes for
maintenance; 4) confirm no conflict with any of new sanitary and sewer being proposed;
5) determine who will maintain it. He is not aware if there are any current easements or
if there are prescriptive easements. The current manhole if not used would probably be
plugged at the north end.
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A new determination from IDOT will probably take 6-8 weeks per Mr. Biscan. XPac is
the current permittee by IDOT.
Mr. Wywrot stated, in order to proceed, a site development permit could be obtained
from the city, conditional upon resolution of the outfall issue. This would allow XPac to
begin creating the pond. Mr. Biscan will explain the situation to XPac and receive their
direction. There is a bond development inclusive in the site development permit, and Mr.
Wywrot would include additional monies in outfall work.
The developer will speak with IDOT and XPac, and, if needed, will revise the plan and
submit to Rich Ballerini at IDOT.
Issues to be resolved are 1) contamination—XPac has a consultant working on this; 2)the
notice intent; 3) a possible revised plan to IDOT; and 4) estimate of costs.
This will be scheduled for the June 8th Plan Commission.
Respectfully submitted,
Annette Williams
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