Plan Council Minutes 2005 09-01-05 APPRD
Plan Council
September 1, 2005
Attendees:
Joe Wywrot, City Engineer Tim Fairfield, BKFD
Eric Dhuse, Dir. of Public Works Kerstin Valencia, Parks Intern
Jeff Freeman, EEI John Whitehouse, EEI
Sgt. Ron Diederich, Police Dept.
Guests:
Phil Stuepfert, SEC Ken Huhn, Smith Engineering
Pete Huinker, Smith Engineering Matt Cudney, Pulte Homes
Joe Wywrot opened the meeting at 9:40 am. The minutes from the August
25th minutes were approved with corrections.
Del Webb—Preliminary PUD plan
Mr. Cudney suggested that the population in these age-restrictive
developments is typically 1.8 residents per unit, and they are designed to be
a somewhat isolated community, with less traffic flow. In particular, the
open spaces between cul-de-sacs, rather than roadways, provide additional
separation from the other areas of the development. Some residents in other
Del Webb communities have only one car per household. Del Webb
communities have a gate for decorative reasons at the manicured entrances,
but the guard house may / or may not be manned. The Yorkville Del Webb
community will have an 18,000' recreation center with an indoor and an
outside pool, as well as a gym for exercise and a clubhouse for meetings.
The Parks department would like to have a trail along Rt. 47, connecting
with development on the south. There will be no park in this complex.
Engineering comments
1) Joe Wywrot stated there are sharp curves shown in the plans that do not
comply with the ordinance. Sgt. Diederich and Tim Fairfield stated
there are no traffic flow problems with eye brow intersections in
Heartland (similar engineering). Pete Huinker stated the road design is
intended as traffic calming in these developments.
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2) The city needs to decide which right of ways are public and which are
private, not compromising the placement and maintenance of utilities.
All streets have front setbacks of 20' .
3) Mr. Cudney suggested Eric Dhuse call Jim Schwarz in Huntley
regarding water and sewer easement design issues, and Pulte will
provide plan sheets from Huntley for staff.
4) The right of way is 46' in the duplex area, with a 4' sidewalk. The
developer will check with the Building & Safety department for the
ADA standard for width.
5) Pulte will provide a list of all variances by neighborhood, as an exhibit
to the annexation agreement.
6) There are two road stubs in Bailey Meadow that stub to ComEd right of
way. The main access for marketing will be the access off Route 47.
The comp plan shows the west property is R-2. The Bailey Meadows
road stub coming south would be eliminated when Del Webb is
approved.
7) Mr. Wywrot suggested a pedestrian access to the commercial area in
Bailey Meadows, however their may be an area of compensatory
storage in the SE Bailey Meadows corner, so the developer will look at
the possibility.
8) The developer will be obtaining ordinances, passed in other
communities, to address the use of golf carts on city streets. Sgt.
Diederich stated his concern that this ordinance may supercede the state
ordinance. John Whitehouse suggested a wider path standard, for areas
like Lot F, which may potentially contain a path into the adjoining north
property. Mr. Cudney will provide data in non-golf course Del Webb
communities to the staff.
9) Mr. Fairfield suggested a roadway connecting cul-de-sacs in Lots E.
He will be provided plans for Elgin & Shorewood communities
showing the roadway dimensions /plans.
10) In the SW corner, there is a temporary dead end and there may be a
connection across Galena. Neighborhood 8 needs fewer fittings per
Eric.
11) Barrier curbs are being recommended in the single family home area,
as per city ordinance. Staff is okay with the roll curb in the townhouse
areas.
12) An ADA analysis is needed for road classification. There is a
concern with the main access off Galena, with the east west loop 130
feet from the entrance.
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13) General— comment 41 Some lots may be impacted because of the
Rob Roy Creek floodplain.
14) The developer is on Phase II on the archeological site. Mr. Cudney
stated was a farmhouse site, and his opinion was that the site could be
excavated and removed.
15) Joe Wywrot is concerned with the volume of restricted outfalls.
Because Rob Roy Creek is cold and ground water fed he suggested
submerged outfalls.
16) Jeff Freeman suggested that further west on Brummel the city may
want shallow wells.
17) The developer will address the pavement road thickness.
Landscaping comments
1) Additional information needed for the amenity center includes the
north road alignment, location of the tennis courts and parking spaces.
2) Mike Schoppe asked for an aerial, superimposing Westbury and
Bristol Bay, leaving the Del Webb development blank.
3) The developer will provide architectural standards. Mr. Schoppe's
recommendation is for a separate PUD agreement, per the city
ordinance.
4) The park department should give the developer input on the location
of the trail.
5) Public access is needed from Lot D.
6) Outfall should be discharged a minimum of 100' into a vegetated
swale.
7) Road detail for duplexes on sheet 15 should provide a minimum
parkway of 8'.
8) The landscaping in Lots A and B should reflect a natural shoreline.
The landscaping at the front entry should be identified as manicured
vs. natural.
9) Primary issues are density, architectural standards and the listing of
variances.
This will be scheduled for Plan Council on September 8th. The developer
will bring in PUD plans, response letter and architectural standards in the
office by Sept. 2nd. Staff comments to the new submittals will be mailed on
Sept. 9th. It will be at Plan Commission on Sept. 14th
Respectfully submitted by Annette Williams
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