Plan Council Minutes 2005 11-17-05 i
Plan Council
November 17,2005
Attendees:
John Crois,Interim Administrator Anna Kurtzman,Zoning official
Mike, Schoppe, Schoppe Design Scott Sleezer, Parks Director
Eric Dhuse,Dir. of Public Works John Whitehouse, Engineering Enterprise
William Dunn,Engineering Enterprise Sgt. Ron Diederich, Yorkville Police Dept.
Guests:
Carrie Hansen, Wiseman-Hughes Mike Brandenburg, Tanglewood Homes
Patti Bernhard, DBCW Debbie Miller, Tanglewood Homes
The meeting was called to order at 10:15 am. There was one correction to the minutes
from the Oct. 27 minutes.
Windett Ridge Unit 3-Concept PUD plan
Wiseman Hughes is seeking annexation and R4 PUD zoning for 198 town homes,with a
gross density of 2.16 per acre. There is an extensive open space,with connecting east and
west road to Penman on the east,and providing a north-south connection to Windett
Ridge to the north and south to adjacent property. All residents will be able to walk or
drive to the commercial area. There is a 16.2 acre park site. The corridor into the city
will have extensive landscaping. The developer will look at leaving natural contours
intact.
Ms. Hanson stated they will look at the northeast area to see if they can square it up the
first orientation. Driveways cuts on the minor collector may be reduced. They will have
a three acre park site, and the rest will be land cash. The park will have active
recreational uses and they would like a clear delineation between the park and school site,
and hopefully,the trail may provide that. Mr. Schoppe stated they had met with Dr.
Engler, and the district would like an elementary school on this site. The city will need to
set up the design standards for the school site in the annexation agreement. Mr.
Whitehouse suggested the school be sited on the higher ground,because the drainage area
must be maintained. This would save Wiseman-Hughes having to do extensive earth
work.
The east west road is a minor collector with 70' right of ways. The developer needs to
readdress the horseshoe shaped road,which has less than 400 feet intersection spacing.
The developer has not had discussion with IDOT regarding the Rt. 47 entrance and hopes
to align it with and existing driveway across the street. The city is requesting 80' right of
ways consistently within the development,with the exception of the 28' back to back dual
outbound(adjacent to the island)exit to Rt.47.
Currently the city trail in Windett Ridge is not on the ComEd right of way, and is east of
the right of way. The city should see if there are provisions for an easement along Rt. 47
and needed is 20' alongside of and east of the ComEd ROW. A second option may be
moving the trail west through the development. With this option,the city will deal with
exclusivity of YBSD easements and the placement of the trails over the easement. There
will be a separate HOA for this development. Public right of ways will be maintained by
the HOA.
The break point for sanitary sewer is in the middle of the development. The western
portion can be served initially by gravity sewer. The developer may determine at a later
time that the far eastern section be built as single family,because of time constraints, and
the potential new lift station that may service that more isolated area. This will be
addressed in the PUD and annexation agreements.
The adjoining area to the east,which is the southern extension of Hudson Lakes,has not
been platted. On the east side of the subdivision,the storm water outfall will be adequate,
as long as the developer tiles to it.
Because of the topography differences to the streets, engineering grading deviations may
be considered.. The maximum on aprons now is 8%and the maximum after you are off
the apron is 10%. Terraced retaining walls off the internal walls (to keep a
conventional rear)were suggested on the homes west of the detention area.
The city must determine if the landscape parkways(separating private driveways)should
extend out to the back of curb, or stop at right of way line.
The developer will make PUD and concept applications.
Evergreen Farm Estates-Preliminary Plan
These changes were made after the developer reviewed the traffic plan: 1) one lot lost;
2)eliminated entrance to north parcel; 3) changed Fox Rd. entrance, after meeting with
Fran Klaas; 4) straightened out Pavillion Rd.; 5)detention areas will be planted in natural
prairie grass; 6)the southwest detention area will be planted in grass for play area.
The city is asking for an extension of Kaiden St. to the far west property line,to provide a
second access to the Bornemann property. The city can ask Fox River Bluff to provide a
stub in also. In addition,the city is looking for a land plan for the Homestead parcel to
the east,to determine if Sanchez Rd. and/or Alexander Rd. should be extended. The
developer has no option or first right of refusal in writing for the property. Another option
would be a stub between lots 39 and 40, leaving Sanchez and Alexander the same.
There is excess storm water capacity in the basins at the Fox Rd. Gateway, and the berms
need to be pulled back from Fox Road. Mr. Schoppe also recommended shortening lots
24, 25 and 26 by 50-75 feet to widen the corridor. The park board had asked for a trail
along the north side of the Fox leading to the park, and sidewalk will be ok to the park.
In lieu of sidewalk on the north side of the road,the sidewalk will be along the Fox Rd. /
south side. The developer should check if it is ok to put in the county right of way, with
the city being responsible for the sidewalk maintenance.
To be confirmed with YBSD is the interceptor placement in the Fox Road right of way.
The developer will contact YBSD for verification of geometries on right of way
easements along Pavillion Road. The city would request, should YBSD want an
exclusive easement,that landscaping could be added on top of the easement.
There should be a single street name, either Sanchez or Abigail Lane (north of Alexander
and west of Evergreen Farm Road).
The developer will submit preliminary plat, engineering and landscape plans by Dec. 7th
This is scheduled for plan council on Dec. 22"a
The meeting was adjourned at 11:50 am.
Minutes submitted by Annette Williams.