Plan Council Minutes 2004 07-08-04 r APPROVED BY THE
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United City of Yorkville
Plan Council Meeting
July 8, 2004
Attendees:
Tony Graff, City Administrator Laura Brown, Director of Parks & Rec
Mike Schoppe, Schoppe Design Anna Kurtzman, Planning Coordinator
Joe Wywrot, City Engineer Eric Dhuse, Director of Public Works
Tim Fairfield, BKFD Sgt. Ron Diedrich, Yorkville Police Dept.
Guests:
Cris Lannert, The Lannert Group Jeffrey Hyman, Burnside Homes
Patrick Williams, ENCAP, laic.
The meeting began at 9:45 AM. The minutes from the June 24, 2004 were approved,
after addition of the word - "submit" six sets - in the very last paragraph.
Villas at the Preserve - Preliminary Plan
Comments by Mike Schoppe
1) Point 2 under preliminary plan—Mr. Lannert would like to look at the Hughes
property adjoining and his concerns with an emergency access road is that it would
mix the residential and commercial aspects of the two properties. He would like to
design the boulevard road—divided- throughout the development, and have just an
emergency lineage on the southeast corner. The City would not want to promote
this as a primary emergency access drive, and Mr. Graff stated the City will want
an access easement for this drive. The City pointed out that that commercial/retail
development is coming—Larry's Diner. Mr. Larmert wants to explore the 28'
wide road with the property owner to the east. Mr. Schoppe suggested the access
go further south, so as not to make it conducive for residents to use as a thru-road.
The City favors a"No Thru Traffic" signage. Mr. Graff suggests that the drive be
24"wide, so as not to encourage traffic. The homeowner's association will
maintain the driveway, but it will be a private drive. The developer will check with
Mr. Hughes to the east, in proposing a sidewalk that would abut the joint property.
2) Point#4 under preliminary plan -Mr. Lannert said they are looking at impacting
approximately .42 acres of wetlands on the site, in terms of jurisdictional
wetlands. The modified plan shows improved creels channelization, increasing the
length from 900-1200 feet, improving with bio-swales. Mr. Lannert will resubmit
the site analysis, providing clarification for drainage. The Army Corps of
Engineers has determined one area is jurisdictional and Mr. Graff suggested that
the developer keep the Army Corps jurisdictional permit, since our storm
water/wetlands ordinance is undergoing technical review. The City staff will
decide, as part of the PUD agreement, if we will be mitigating those area that are
non jurisdictional.
3) Point 43 under preliminary plan - Mr. Lannert said their plan shows 30' setback on
the side loaded garages, making for large driveways. He is requesting 20'. The
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ordinance states the building setback line,per Anna Kurtzman. Mr. Graff s
concern is that two cars can park in the driveway, and that there is adequate
parking and sufficient utility easements. Joe Wywrot stated 5' within a footing is
not favorable. This age targeted development will have driveway maintained by
the association,per Mr. Lannert. Mr. Graff suggested that the first issue is that the
back of curb setback fits with all engineering issue. The closest footing will be the
garage footing. Potentially, if there is a tree line in the rear, the utilities would be
in the front. Mr. Schoppe would look at the side load garage and assure that the
owner will be able to make a 90 degree turn into the drive. Lannert will look at
rear utilities. Mr. Lannert will add preliminary footprint and driveways to the
preliminary plan for all lots.
4) Point# 5 under preliminary plan—The City is looking that at this property as an
addition to the Harris Preserve, as open space. The City will have a meeting with
Dan Kramer's office, Tony Graff and Ryan and Nelson Pottinger to determine the
land use for this property.
5) The Bristol Kendall Fire Department's concerns are covered in Joe Wywrot's
comments.
6) Mr. Lannert, in response to a question from Anna Kurtzman regarding shared
access for driveways, stated that there would be right of ingress and egress will be
incorporated in the homeowners' documentation. Blanket easements will be
available for cable, utilities and driveways.
Engineering comments from Joe Wywrot
1) Storm calculations will be provided to Joe Wywrot, including lot size and grading
concerns. Mr. Graff stated this development fits with compatibility with nature
and the council also likes the designs with the side load garages. It also
compliments the commercial area nearby. Mr. Lannert stated that architectural
standards will be provided, in particular the brick used.
2) Last bullet on page 1 —Mr. Lannert is requesting 24' on the eyebrow. The City is
suggesting a decrease in the size of the island. The fire department's concerns is
difficulty of bringing in equipment. The City's position has been 28'. The
developer is given the option of resubmitting new plans after Plan Commission,
for consideration for Public Works, BKFD and the Police Departments review.
3) Point#1 on page 2 —The City is requesting a traffic study and the City prefers
Metro. Mr. Wywrot stated this study will go to IDOT and work with the City for
completion.
4) Point#2—The typical pavement section will be revised, because of the wetlands,
will be provided to Mr. Wywrot.
5) Point#4—The developer will submit a true grading of the sides and 4-5/1 side
slopes will be shown. Mr. Graff suggests the developer meet with the Forest
Preserve prior to the Public Hearing.
6) Point# 8 —The developer will determine after meeting with the Preserve, whether
a stub will need to be provided. Mr. Wywrot stated a pump station may need to
be cited there.
7) Point# 10—Lannert will comply with and add the drainage swale extending from
Harris Court to the NW pond.
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8) Point#1 on page 1 —The City is needs a uniform parkway width. Mr. Lannert
will get a copy of their survey to Mr. Wywrot. The developer will send the plans
to IDOT and will copy the information to Joe Wywrot.
9) The park donation is 100% cash and the pedestrian trail goes across the front of
the development.
The preliminary plan will be presented at the Plan Commission on July 14"' and at EDC
on July 21 at 7 PM. The targeted public hearing date will be August 24. The draft of the
PUD / annexation agreement needs to be submitted 2 weeks prior to the public hearing.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 AM.
Respectfully submitted,
Annette Williams