Plan Council Minutes 2004 08-26-04 APPROVED BY THE
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United City of Yorkville
Plan Council Meeting
August 26, 2004
Attendees:
Tony Graff, City Administrator Joe Wywrot, City Engineer
Mike Schoppe, Schoppe Design Sgt. Ron Diedrich,Yorkville Police
Jeff Freeman, EEI John Whitehouse, EEI
Tim Fairfield, BKFD Laura Brown, Director of Parks &Rec
Eric Dhuse, Director of Public Works
Guests:
Eric VanBeest, Pasquinelli Development Brian Urban, Cowey, Gunderson, Leder
Dan Oefner, Cowey, Gunderson, Leder Bill Zalewski, Jacob &Hefner
Rich Guerard, Wyndham Deerpoint Rob Zoromski, Concord Homes
Mr. Graff called the meeting to order at 9:45 AM.
Mr. Wywrot questioned the Fox Hill bike trail's path, and it was determined the trail would go into the
cul-de-sac, back out to Eldamain and not along the south property. The bridge easement winds into the
cul-de-sac area,per Ms. Brown. As part of the Fox Hill agreement, Mr. Schoppe stated, that Marvin
DeLahr, DCS, would be giving the City land along the west side of the creek(from the bridge south)
which would allow the land connecting it to Unit 7. The City opts not to build the trail now.
The July 22, 2004 minutes were approved as written.
Grande Reserve Unit 9—Final Plat
Mike Schoppe's comments
1) Comment#1 —Final Plat: The annexation agreement document shows an opening to the street at lot
806 and the plat shows it as a build able lot. Mr. Urban took an open space to make 112 build able
lots, as stated in the annexation agreement. Mr. Graff stated that the final plat lot numbers cannot be
compromised if there are landplane or engineering issues. Staff believes Lot 106 was designated as an
emergency and visibility area. If owners want to explore and.redesign the area for 112 lots, they
should resubmit in writing as an amendment to the plan.
2) Comment#4—Engineering Improvement Plans: This is a City Council issue, not plan commission.
Mr. Schoppe stated that the City consultants, CDF,recommended the 2 foot spacing. Mr. Urban
suggested that the plugs were an improvement over the initial specifications, (agreed at with MPI)
which were for seeding at 5,000 per acres and including the channels for seeding. Mr. Schoppe
suggests if the plan is to seed at 5000 plant per acre, and, in addition, add the plugs,this would be a
fair compromise.
3) Comment# 1 —Engineering Improvement Plans: Mr. Schoppe would prefer a stub alongside the east
side of Matlock,which is on the west side of the park. It should be centered to the east side into the
ROW, with a 1"water and a 6" sanitary. Staff will look into putting parking spaces at this site. Ms.
Brown stated that there will be a drinking fountain in the park, and typically only the larger acreage
parks are equipped with restroom facilities.
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EEI comments
1) Sheets 5-10, Grading plan—John Whitehouse has been in contact with Brian Schiber in regards to the
grading. A site visit will be arranged.
2) Eric Dhuse, Joe Wywrot and John Whitehouse agree that sanitary sewer stubs should be extended
beyond the typical length into front yards during construction.
3) Comment# 5, Sheets 11-19: Allegiance intersection will be realigned per Mr. Oefner.
4) Comment# 8, Sheets 11-19: Tim Fairfield is working with Oswego on an intergovernmental
agreement on service boundaries,to interconnect and make hydrant supplies available. The water
supply is the foremost concern, not the logistics of the hydrant placement.
5) Comment#12, Sheet 1-19: Options for Seely Street are a) eliminate the current single feed and
do a loop around the cul-de-sac,b)run up with a single pipe into Mill Rd, cross under the railroad,
come back to Mill; c) come north with a single, go west following the electric line, then tie into the
water line leaving the tower(which crosses the railroad) and onto Galena. Recommended to the
developer is option#2,making a better water supply source for portions of area north of Mill Rd. This
would be a 8"main. Interceptor lines should be 15' from ComEd.
6) Comment#18. Sheets 21 &22: The City will get written direction is needed from IDOT.
7) Comment#27, Sheet 21 &22: The typical lot detail would be sufficient if there are no side yard
abutting streets that are differing per Mr. Whitehouse.
8) Comment#6, Sheet 11-19: The City will keep the 66' ROW. The developer will tie in the curb
should tie in at the curb cross section with a 28' back to back. The sidewalk will slope 30'
transitionally.
Anna Kurtzman's comments
1) Comment#3: These lots are shown in their entirety on the front cover. Mr. Whitehouse believes this
is sufficient.
2) Comment#4: A note needs to be made on the cover sheet. There should be a note on the cover sheet
conveying the area to the Home Owners Association. There is language on the plat allows a bike path
through the storm water management easement. (see lot 4 language, and note#4). Per Ms. Brown the
City maintains 5' on either side of the trail.
3) Comment#5: The landscape median is maintained by the HOA, needed is the typical easement detail
language.
4) Comment#6 and#7: Typical detail language needs to be provided by the developer.
5) Comment#8: Mr. Urban does not want to show on the plat. Rear yards must be shown if they are a
deviation, per Mr. Wywrot. The developer should show as done in other units.
6) Comment#10: Mr. Urban will provide the architectural details.
7) There was discussion as to whether or not all setbacks need to be shown on the plat. If then, a resident
asked for a variance, would all residents in the Unit would be required to sign off on this. The
developer will show the front setbacks only on the plat, and typicals on the side and rear setbacks.
The developer will present Units 9, 10 and 11 at the November 10th Plan Commission. Submittal of
revised engineering, landscaping preliminary plans and preliminary plats for Unit 9 should be submitted
by September 30th
Raintree Village Units 4,5& 6—Final Plan
Mike Schoppe comments
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1) There was a discussion on the naming of Bluebird Lane in Unit 4. It was determined that Hawk
Hollow Drive will continue north to River Crossing Drive. North of there it will be Bluebird Lane.
Anna Kurtzman's comments
1) The developer will comply, on Unit 4, to include acreage on each lot on the plat.
John Whitehouse comments
1) Plats need additional easement widths and access restrictions.
2) Comment#4—Grading plans: The developer needs to ease the peaks on the side yards so overflow
flows are not contained.
3) John is asking for an additional sewer line running to the school lots, 291 and 292. Needed is an 8"
sewer line. Watermain will be from west property line and tap into the south side of Prairie crossing.
4) The detention basin on lot#336 serves the school site, as well as the water tower and park site. Mr.
Whitehouse suggested the storm sewer be put in first and soon. The water main is now going up to
Prairie Crossing(40 ft easement in Unit 2)which eliminates the need for the booster station. Rob
Zoromski asked if the city might allow construction,with a permit log number documentation
number, and Mr. Wywrot suggested that the City may give a right to proceed, if Kramer's office okays
the request. If storm sewer is and grading is completed,Mr. Whitehouse is suggesting that cover
issues will not be problematic when water line is ready for installation. The developer stated that
permits will be turned in next week to the City, and forecasts that the IEPA would receive these the
first week of September.
5) Per Rich Guerard , Wyndham Deerpoint will convey ownership of Lot#466 to the City, indicated on
the plat"to be conveyed"to the City.
6) If Tremont Lane is not constructed yet, Rob is asking that the water main valve be moved alongside
the road, for access along Astor to the water tower site.
7) Mike Schoppe commented on grading on the school/park site on Unit 2 to make it more flexible as a
one site area,not knowing where the park improvements or school will be located. Shown is a 4-5"
slope alongside the east side. Options were: 1)pull dirt back, 2)put in additional fill on the low side,
or 3)put the larger slope along the far east side. Mr. Whitehouse stated there is a water main down the
east easement property line, and a 460V. electric line, but the grading at these lines could not be
changed. At this time, the developer will not be asked to regrade, and staff will look at options when
the school or park site is developed.
8) On Unit 5, Parkside will continue it name until Rt. 126. Keeping the connecting street name into the
adjoining subdivision will be addressed when staff review those plats.
9) Wyndham Deerpoint will keep the streetlights banded as close to T intersections as possible,per Mr.
Dhuse's request.
10) Mr. Fairfield requested that Manchester Lane name be changed.
This will go to Plan Commission on Sept. 8th,with final plat approval subject to final engineering and
landscaping reviews. Revised final plats, engineering and landscape submittals are due by Sept. 3rd.
Respectfully submitted,
Annette Williams