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Plan Council Minutes 2002 11-21-02 Page 1 of 4 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE Plan Council Meeting Minutes November 21,2002 Convened at 9:40 A.M. Attendees: Tony Graff—City Administrator Lynn Dubajic—YEDC Joe Wywrot—City Engineer Laura Brown—Parks & Recreation Harold Martin—Police Dept. Anna Kurtzman- Building Department Tim Fairfield—BKFPD Dean Kleronomos Angelo Kleronomos Boyd Ingemunson Steve Richardson Randy Metz MINUTES Minutes from September 12, 2002 were accepted by consensus with one correction on page five. Tim Fairfield from the Bristol-Kendall Fire Protection District(BKFPD) stated that everything after"or engine five..." should be deleted. BKFPD does not have an engine five. The minutes should read"to allow better equipment access." PC 2002-25 DANIEL LANIOSZ'Z GARDEN CENTER- 1 %MILE REVIEW Boyd Ingemunson addressed the Council regarding the special use on an A-1 zoning within ] '/2 miles radius of Yorkville. The property is on Route 71 across from the Kendall County Fairgrounds. It is currently uses as a grain and feed store and the owner is seeking an amendment to the special use so that he can operate a garden center/nursery. He will grow trees and plants on the property as well as sell plants shipped in to his location. There will be no new structures. If Mr.Laniosz were going to grow all the plants for sale himself,he wouldn't need the special use however it is required because things will be shipped in for sale. The County has done their preliminary approval and Kendall Township has given their preliminary approval at their Planning Commission. There are a few issues with the parking lot and easement access on the west of the property that are being worked out with the County now. The County is not anticipating any problem with the amendment. Anna Kurtzman from the Building Department noted that there was not a site plan available in the packet. She asked if the Yorkville Plan Commission would need to see this. Administrator Graff asked if Mr. Laniosz would include a site plan in the information given to the Plan Commission and noted that anything that is submitted and/or required for the County should be given to the City. City Engineer Joe Wywrot stated that he spoke with Jerry Dudgeon,Director of Planning, Building and Zoning for Kendall County about this briefly and Mr. Dudgeon noted the issues with parking and the need for special use because they wanted to sell items not raised on the property. Mr. Graff stated that the recommendation is to provide a site plan in order to move forward with this. The deadline for the December 11,2002 Plan Commission meeting would be December 3, 2002. Page 2 of 4 PC 2002-26 -ROSE HILL - 1 V2 MILE REVIEW Mr. Graff noted that he was waiting for Attorney Kelly Kramer to fax over guidelines as to the City's role in the 1 'h mile review. Verbally, she said the City's role is to review how the development complies with its Land Use Plan unless there is a lack of subdivision control or zoning ordinance that specifically addresses this type of use. Kendall County has these ordinances in place. With these is place,the City can still recommend that some of Yorkville's subdivision control ordinances apply to the development. Angelo Kleronomos addressed the Council. The property is question is at Hilltop and Minkler Roads and is contiguous on two sides to the Fields of Farm Colony subdivision. They are bringing this development into the Kendall County under a new zoning classification,RPD-2. This is the first application of the zoning,which calls for 30,000 square foot lots and a maximum density of.6 dwelling units/acre. There will be 41.7 acres of total landmass in open space. They are trying to keep a country flavor as is prevalent in the Fields of Farm Colony,Farm Colony, Oak Creek and Shadow Creek subdivisions. There will be restrictive covenants that will apply. The home sizes will be a minimum of 2,900 square feet for two-story,2,300 square feet for ranch and 2,500 square feet for split-level with a first floor master bedroom. There will be a 2,000 square foot clubhouse with a pool for residents and a trail system similar to the one in Fields of Farm Colony and Farm Colony and will tie into theirs. The open space will be planted in prairie grass, savanna type materials and indigenous trees. There will be 57 units on 98 acres. The development is in two townships,Kendall and Oswego. They have received unanimous approval from both. They have been to the Kendall County planning bodies accept for the County Board and received unanimous approval there. Mr. Graff noted that the subdivision is in compliance with the City's Comprehensive Plan for estate neighborhood housing with larger lots; 18,000 square feet or greater and a density of no more that 1.5 units/acre. Mr. Graff asked what Jerry Dudgeon thought regarding the cul-de-sac length. Mr. Kleronomos stated that both fire districts signed off on the cul-de-sac length. They discussed were the fire district split was in the development and Oswego's district has the long cul-de-sac in their district. Also discussed was the road access points to the development. Mr. Wywrot stated that there was a letter from Attorney Dan Kramer regarding having access out to Minkler Road and neither fire chief felt this was necessary because there are three points of access to the subdivision. Mr.Kleronomos stated that the length of the cul-de-sac complied with the Kendall County ordinance. Annexation of the property was discussed and Mr. Wywrot stated that he felt that if it were ever to annex it would be to Yorkville. Mr.Fairfield stated that the only way it would be totally under the BKFPD would be if it annexes from one district to the other. The fire districts have had some conversations about such things but at this time there are no conclusions. Mr. Graff asked about the sewer and water for the development. Mr.Kleronomos stated the homes will be on private well and septic,no community well. The terrain in the area is inconsistent for a community sewer system and there is no where to connect it to. The Council went over Joe Wywrot's memo from November 5,2002 containing his comments on the subdivision. • The soil is moderate to good for septic fields;there is a field tile study done and a soil study underway. Page 3 of 4 • Street names have been submitted to Kendall County. Tim Fairfield commented on the name of the road that connects to Fields of Farm Colony. The map shows Audrey Avenue from Fields of Farm Colony and changes to Jason Avenue. Mr. Kleronomos suggested to the County that Audrey Avenue be called Audrey Lane in their development. Mr. Fairfield stated that he would prefer if the street name stayed consistent between the two developments. The Council further discussed this and Mr. Kleronomos stated that he would continue to work with the County regarding the street name. Mr. Graff explained the City's new program for adopting historical street names. He asked if all the streets were assigned names and Mr. Kleronomos went over the street names for the development. Attorney Dean Kleronomos stated that if they could get rid of Jason or Audrey Avenues for names they will take a name from the area. • Mr. Wywrot was concerned with the binder course used on the roads. Mr.Kleronomos stated that they are compiling with the County's regulations and Mr. Wywrot stated this was not acceptable to the City and he will forward his concern to the County. • The cul-de-sac bulb does not meet the City's requirements but does meet the County's. Mr. Wywrot state that the County's requirement is close to that of the City's. • Streetlights will be placed at intersections and at the end of cul-de-sacs. • Since there will be no sidewalks,Mr. Wywrot recommended that the trail system abut every lot for access to the clubhouse. Mr. Kleronomos stated that due to the country profile of the development,the roadways will be safe enough for people to walk along them to the amenities. The trail currently abuts about 70%of the lots. Mr. Kleronomos noted that the trails will be turned over to the homeowners association. • Improvements on Hilltop and Minkler Roads were discussed. The developer does not see a need for traffic lights or turn bays. • Driveways are required to be asphalt or better and need to be installed during the first allowable weather season. There is also a landscape requirement; sod in front yards, seeded rear yards and each homeowner must install a minimum of$3,500.00 worth of plant material. The plant material will include trees in the front yards: a 2-'/2 diameter tree for approximately every 40' (if a front yard is 80' wide,two trees will be required). Landscape plans need to be approved and the landscaping has to be installed in the first allowable growing season after the homeowner moves in. The cost includes material and installation. • Mr. Graff asked that the developer submit their preliminary landscape plan to City Land Planner Mike Schoppe before they go before the Plan Commission. • Mr. Wywrot asked that the low points along the roads and areas were culverts are needed be shown on the plans. He also had questions about the routing of stormwater to the detention basin. The detention basins were discussed and Mr. Graff asked if they were going to minimize the bounce to support plant material. Steve Richardson stated that the bounce is approximately three feet. Mr. Graff asked if Jerry Dudgeon was reviewing the natural areas. Attorney Kleronomos stated that a Forest Preserve conservation easement was created. The homeowners association will maintain the property but the Forest Preserve will have the right to supervise and inspect the installation and they have a right to step in if the homeowners don't properly maintain it. The parcels will have lot numbers assigned to them. Attorney Kleronomos asked if Mike Schoppe had any comments and Mr. Graff stated no but that he should touch base with Mr. Schoppe. Park&Recreation Director Laura Brown stated that Mr. Schoppe would be at the Parks Planning meeting November 25,2002 at 7:00 P.M. and the Rose Hill development is on the agenda. Page 4 of 4 Mr. Graff stated that the Plan Council would recommend the development to the Plan Commission. He asked that they get a copy of their landscape plan to Mike Schoppe and notify the fire and police departments of the street names. Mr. Graff asked if the developer was considering the transition fee to the school district and Mr. Kleronomos stated absolutely not because the homes are priced at a level where there isn't a necessity of an impact fee because of the price point of the homes. Mr. Graff stated that they should provide this information in the packet for the Plan Commission. ADDITIONAL BUSINESS There was no additional business and the meeting was adjourned at 10:25 P.M. Minutes submitted by Jackie Milschewski,City Clerk