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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
Plan Council Meeting Minutes
December 19, 2002
Convened at 9:34 A.M.
Attendees
Joe Wywrot—City Engineer Eric Dhuse—Public Works Director
Laura Brown—Park/Recreation Director Anna Kurtzman—Building &Zoning
Bill Dettmer—Building& Zoning Lynn Dubajic—YEDC
Tony Graff—City Admin. (arrived at 11:40) Tim Fairfield—BKFPD
Rob Moore -BKFPD
Alan Brauer—Land Vision Matt Fiascone—Inland
Michael Mondus— SpaceCo Ken Jernberg—Inland
Randy Metz—Ives/Ryan Group
MINUTES
Minutes from November 21, 2002 were accepted by consensus as presented.
PC 2002-29 BOWMAN PROPERTY—1 1/2 MILE REVIEW—INLAND
Overview
This is a 1 1/2 mile review. This property is located northeast of Hilltop Road and Farm
Colony Subdivision. It is approximately 33 acres and is the east half of the property
divided by the creek. It is being proposed as County RPD3 zoning, 18 lots with the
minimum lot size being 20,000 sq. ft and the maximum being just over 45,000 sq. ft. The
topographical highpoints are located at the southeast corner and by the stubbed road to
the east. There are a couple of swales through the property. There is greater than a 25%
slope in the conservation area. Two detention areas are proposed. One at the south end
which will be dry and one in the north which will be primarily wet. There will be an
access point onto Route 71. ROWs proposed are 70'.
CITY PLANNER'S COMMENTS
Mr. Schoppe reviewed his comments. Items discussed were:
• It was stated that the City will be reviewing its Estate zoning at the Economic
Development Committee meeting in January, 2003. This is the zoning
classification used to review most County 1 %2 mile reviews. One of the issues
being reviewed is the lot width, due to a conflict between the two zoning
ordinances. The city currently requires 200', looking at changing it to 145'.
• The front yard setback was recommended to be consistent with the development
adjacent at 50' not 30'.
• The fire department was okay with the cul-de-sac length.
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ENGINEERING ISSUES
• IDOT has reviewed these plans and approved the location of the access road to
Route 71 as shown.
• The existing driveway alignment was discussed. IDOT requested it to be moved
as shown. Wywrot concurred with IDOT's decision.
• Storm water management was discussed. This development will utilize the
County's new environmentally friendly techniques. It will be naturalized. In the
north area to preserve the slope and trees and include some type of wetland
plantings.
• Their engineer is Spaceco, Michael Mondus.
Internal curb and gutter roads are proposed, not parkway swales. Stormwater quality was
discussed. Swales filter the stormwater prior to it flowing into the river, improving the
quality.
Our ordinance calls for sidewalks on both sides of the streets unless a trail system is
provided. The developer indicated that they will be discussing this issue with the County.
Perhaps connecting to a regional trail system. Placement is the question with regard to
slope and access issues.
The developer also indicated they are currently discussing development with the property
owner, Don Hamman, to the west.
The next step is Plan Commission on 1/15/03 with recommendations.
PC 2002-30—RONALD TUCEK— 1 1/Z MILE REVIEW
Overview
Randy Metz, Land Planner gave an overview of this proposed 51 acre subdivision located
'/z mile south of Legion Road on Hilltop Road requesting County RPD2 zoning. There
are existing subdivision to the south,west and north. Vacant land abuts to the east. The
base density is .45 per acre. The topographical highpoint is located in the middle of the
subdivision. The low point is in the northwest corner where the detention is proposed.
There is an existing farmstead on the property that the developer would like to preserve
as lot 1. The developer will attempt to tie into the road going into Maple Grove
subdivision. 43%of open space is proposed. One half of the site has dense trees which
will be preserved. They are doing a tree survey. The roads are proposed at 28' with
rolled curb and gutter with a 66' ROW. There is a park site proposed at the south end
intended to be public,but this will need to be discussed with the County. If not public, a
homeowner's association will oversee. Native grasses and plants are planned for the
open spaces.
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CITY PLANNER'S COMMENTS
Mr. Schoppe reviewed his comments. These items included:
• A 50' setback was recommended.
• The trail system was discussed. The developer has received quite a few
objections from adjacent home/property owners requesting no trail behind their
homes. A sidewalk on one side is being reviewed with a trail around the
detention area and access to the Park site. There aren't any trails in Maple Grove
or Timber Creek subdivisions.
CITY ENGINEER'S COMMENTS
Mr. Wywrot reviewed his comments. These included:
• Discussion was held regarding access to Highpoint Road through the north. It
will be reviewed further with the County.
Mr. Graff asked about the swale. It will be mostly dry, but intermittently wet. It will be
sodded. The site topography is not done yet; this is based on USGS information. A field
tile study is going to be done as well but the gathering points are from the southwest.
The bounce and draw downs were also discussed. No wetlands are intended,just an open
body of water with wetland plantings. Watersheds were also discussed.
Mr. Graff also prepared the developer regarding a question that is usually asked at the
Plan Commission regarding our school transition fee and how this development will
compare at bringing dollars into the school district thru value, assessment or paying the
transition fee.
This will go on to Plan Commission on January 15th, 2003 with the Plan Council
recommendations.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Mr. Graff referred to a document received from Kelly Kramer on the Estate Zoning
County Comparison review. Mr. Graff and Schoppe will review it on Monday.
MPI will be reviewed next at Plan Commission on January 15th, 2003
Meeting Adjourned at 10:07 a.m.
Minutes submitted by Holly Baker.
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