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Plan Commission Minutes 2003 05-14-03 y Pagel of 4 APPROVED BY THE UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE 9QMM17T,WB0ARD ONit�,l t•U3 PLAN COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003 Chairman Tom Lindblom called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. ROLL CALL Members present: Clarence Holdiman, Anne Lucietto, Brian Schillinger, Jack Jones, Ted King, Andrew Kubala, Michael Crouch and Tom Lindblom Members absent: Kerry Green, Bill Davis, Sandra Adams and Tom Mizel. A quorum was established. VISITORS See attached. Chairman Tom Lindblom announced that Commissioner Jeff Baker resigned earlier in the month. Commissioner Jack Jones spoke about the resignation of\Baker. He said Baker has been an enormous benefit to the city in many ways. He was an alderman, had a leadership role in the formation of the Riverfront Park, he heads the Hometown Days festival, and was the campaign chairman for the mayor. When someone this giving to the community resigns for personal and personnel issues particularly with the city administrator then the city needs to examine the circumstances and change or change the city administrator, Jones said. MINUTES Minutes from the April 9 meeting were approved. PUBLIC HEARINGS PC 2002-27 Fisher Property: Kimball Hill Homes, petitioners, request to annex and rezone from Kendall County A-1 Agricultural to United City of Yorkville R-2 Planned Unit Development. The real property consists of approximately 300 acres at the northwest corner of Cannonball Trail and Faxon Road. See attached transcript. NEW BUSINESS PC 2002-27 Fisher Property: Kimball Hill Homes, petitioners, request to annex and rezone. Commissioner Andrew Kubala said the lots in the neighboring Kylyn's Ridge development are larger than what is shown in the Kimball Hill Homes proposal and he wanted to see a similar lot width in the Kimball Hill Homes development. Page 2 of 4 Richard Young, director of land acquisition for Kimball Hill Homes, said he's not sure what that lot width is. Commissioner Anne Lucietto said the developers indicated at the last meeting that they would try to match the lot widths. City Planner Mike Schoppe said the land use is in conformance with the comprehensive plan for R-2 zoning and the design standards are in compliance with the plan as well. He said the city staff recommends approval of the request for annexation and R-2 zoning. Commissioner Michael Crouch said he still wants to see wider lots on the portion of the property along Cannonball Trail and it needs to be stated in whatever motions are made. Kubala made a motion to recommend the annexation of the Fisher property to the city. Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. Clarence Holdiman, Anne Lucietto, Brian Schillinger, Jack Jones, Ted King, Michael Crouch, Andrew Kubala and Tom Lindblom voted yes. Kubala made a motion to place an R-2 zoning on the property and that the property reflect a desire to have an increased lot width along Cannonball Trail that would have the same lot width as the lots in Kylyn's Ridge. Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. Lucietto, Schillinger, Jones, King, Crouch, Kubala, Lindblom and Holdiman voted yes. After the vote, Kubala made a comment about the landscape buffers along Faxon. He said the he was under the impression that the buffers along Faxon Road would be more effective to the residents of Kylyn's Ridge than what they are. He wondered if it might be prudent to make the landscape buffer as effective as the landscape buffer as the one along Cannonball Trail at Kylyn's Ridge. Schillinger said he doesn't agree. He understands the taller buffer along Cannonball because of the different nature of the subdivisions. But with these subdivisions, he said he's not sure why they need to be separated. He went on to question the right-in, right-out on Faxon. He suggested the developers t- bone the entrance. Young said there would be a much different streetscape with the development. There will be greater visual relationships with the neighborhood. Schoppe added that the intersection is a full four-way intersection. Crouch asked why the T couldn't intersect with Faxon Road. Mayor Art Prochaska said that Faxon Road is being realigned and eventually it will come out on Route 47. Page 3 of 4 Eventually, plans are to alleviate the traffic on Cannonball Trail. Crouch said if that's the goal then everything is being routed north of town. He asked what happens to people who are going to town. Routing should promote going to Yorkville. Schoppe indicated it would still be rather easy for people to get to Yorkville. Crouch said he'd like for the city to look at the whole picture and not this development. Schoppe said the realignment of Faxon Road has been looked at for many years and did not come up just because of this development. Lindblom said another concern is what will people who are circumventing Yorkville on Cannonball Trail do. Schoppe, however, said he doesn't think the traffic pattern would change. Schillinger said the Plan Commission might have voted too early on straight zoning. He said a PUD might be needed if Faxon is going to change and become a major collector road. Bigger buffers may be needed along Faxon Road instead of having lots abut immediately up to Faxon. Young said ultimately the road would be a neighborhood collector. But, Schillinger said it sounds like more than a neighborhood collector. John Whitehouse with EEI said a traffic study would show what the ultimate traffic pattern would be. 2. PC 2003-04 Caledonia: Inland Land Appreciation Fund, L.P., has filed an application with the city requesting preliminary plat review for property consisting of approximately 85 acres located west of Route 47 and west and north of the Yorkville Business Center. Schoppe said the petitioners elected to continue the request to the June meeting so that they can revise plans as per comments from the city's staff. City Attorney Dan Kramer offered some background information on the request. He said that when the city hired Inland to help develop the Yorkville Business Park. At that time, Inland thought it might be difficult to attract manufacturing to the entire parcel. They city made an agreement with Inland that after 7 or 8 years if the land didn't attract industrial users it could be used for residential. At the time, the city agreed to a density of four units per acre. Kubala made a motion to continue the request until June. Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. 3. PC 2003-05 Heartland Circle: Richard Marker Associates, Inc., request final plat approval. Page 4 of 4 Schoppe said the plans presented to the Plan Commission reflect comments made by city staff in April. Kubala made a motion to recommend approval of PC 2003-05 Heartland Circle pending approval of the final review of the engineering plans. Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by roll call vote. Schillinger, Jones, King, Crouch, Kubala, Lindblom, Holdiman and Lucietto voted yes. ADDITIONAL BUSINESS Prochaska reported that Al Trotsky has been appointed to fill the seat of Jeff Baker but was unable to attend the May 14 meeting. The meeting adjourned at 8 p.m. Minutes respectfully submitted by Dina Gipe PLEASE SIGN IN MEETING: C,n DATE: �A-5 NAME STREET ADDRESS CITY .�� 40 Fp112►4 r� 3 0 ORIGINAL PLAN COMMISSION MEETING UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS had at the meeting of the above-entitled matter, taken before Nicola Gengler, C . S . R . , No . 84 -3780 , on May 14 , 2003 , at the hour of 7 : 00 p . m. , at 800 Game Farm Road, Yorkville , Illinois . D-650703 _01 REPO • COURT reporting service 800 West Fifth Avenue • Suite 203C • Naperville, IL 60563 • 630-983-0030 • Fax 630-983-6013 www.depocourt.com 2 3 1 PRESENT: 1 (Proceedings were had which 2 MR. TOM LINDBLOM, Chairman; 2 are not herein transcribed.) 3 MAYOR ARTHUR F. PROCHASKA; 3 MR. LINDBLOM: We are now in public 4 MR. MICHAEL CROUCH; 4 hearing. 5 MR. TED KING; 5 For the benefit of the people in the 6 MR. ANDREW KUBALA; 6 audience, we have an oath that is taken at the public 7 MR. MIKE SCHOPPE; 7 hearing. So I would ask that anyone that is planning 8 MS. ANNE LUCIETTO; 8 on asking questions, making statements, to please stand 9 MR. CLARENCE HOLDIMAN; 9 and raise your right hand and repeat after me. 10 MR. BRIAN SCHILLINGER; 10 (Members of the audience were 11 MR. JACK JONES; 11 thereupon duly sworn.) 12 MS. GINA GIPE, minute taker; 12 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. The public hearing is 13 and 13 on PC2002-27, the Fisher property, Kimball Hill Homes, 14 LAW OFFICES OF DANIEL J. KRAMER 14 petitioners, has filed an application to the United 1107A South Bridge Street 15 Yorkville, Illinois 60560 15 City of Yorkville, Kendall Country, Illinois, BY: MR. DANIEL J. KRAMER, 16 appeared on behalf of the United City of 16 requesting annexation from the United City of Yorkville Yorkville. 17 17 rezoning from Kendall County A-1, agriculture, to the 18 18 United City of Yorkville R-2, planned unit development. 19 19 The real property consists of approximately 300 acres 20 20 and is at the northwest corner of Cannonball Trail and 21 21 Faxon Road, Bristol Township, Kendall County, 22 22 Illinois. 23 23 Just by way of clarification to help 24 24 clarify my thinking on this, too, Mike informed me that DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 4 5 1 this petition tonight and the hearing is just for 1 I believe there is a plan to have a 2 annexation and zoning. 2 preliminary plat survey for the Plan Commission meeting 3 Is that correct, Mike? 3 in July -- or I am sorry -- in June. If you do have 4 MR. SCHOPPE: That is correct, and there is 4 any comments, I am sure they would appreciate you 5 one other slight change to that, and that is in the 5 sharing those with them. 6 requested zoning. I believe the application had 6 MR. KRAMER: The main difference that you 7 indicated the requested zoning was R-2 PUD. 7 are getting when it is straight R-2 zoning is you are 8 Through the discussions that we have 8 voting, again, strictly on the issues of annexation and 9 had on what the intentions are for the zoning on the 9 the zoning class which allows a certain density. 10 property, they are requesting now simply a straight R-2 10 If, for instance, they chose on a 11 zoning and not a special use of the PUD. 11 preliminary plat basis to totally redesign the concept 12 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. The main difference 12 plan, there is no lock in to that particular plan. 13 in my thinking on this anyhow is that this -- you know, 13 Where when somebody comes in front of us with a planned 14 whether we are -- or we are not talking about concept 14 unit development request, unless there is a major 15 plan, anything like that at this point; correct? 15 reason to change like whether it won't support a road 16 MR. SCHOPPE: That is correct. In your 16 or something, they basically have to live with the 17 package, you should have received a concept plan. 17 concept that is approved as part of the PUD. 18 If you recall, several months ago we 18 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay, and with that being 19 got a concept plan. You provided some input on it, and 19 said, speaking for the petitioner? 20 I think they have talked to City Council, Park Board, 20 MR. YOUNG: Good evening. My name is 21 et cetera. Now, they have taken that input and revised 21 Richard Young. I am the director of land acquisition 22 their concept plan; and if you care to share any 22 for Kimball Hill Homes. 23 thoughts that you might have on that concept plan, I am 23 We have been before you on two 24 sure they would appreciate it as they move forward. 24 occasions with concept plans. We have modified those DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 6 7 1 with your input and that of the Park Board and that of 1 ordinance. 2 planning council. As Mike said, we have come to the 2 MR. LINDBLOM: Is what you have in 3 determination that we really do not need a PUD 3 presenting up here the same as what we got in our 4 ordinance that would go along with this proposed 4 packages or has there been some changes? 5 development. 5 MR. YOUNG: I believe it is the same. 6 As you know, it is approximately 6 MR. SCHOPPE: It should be the same plat. 7 300-acre site. We have all 12,000-square foot lots. 7 MR. LINDBLOM: It is the same? 8 We do not anticipate any zoning variances or 8 MR. YOUNG: Yes. 9 subdivision code variances at this time. 9 MR. LINDBLOM: Progress. 10 We made some adjustments in terms of 10 MR. YOUNG: We have taken that a step 11 the location of a school site and park site based on 11 further to modify -- excuse me -- we have taken that 12 the input from the Park Board, and that has been 12 plan a step further to modify based on the comments 13 reviewed with the Park Board, and they are in 13 that we received a few weeks ago from the Planning 14 concurrence with the basic concept of the park 14 Council and that will be reflected on the preliminary 15 location. Actually we have shown about a 12.9 acre 15 plat that you will see hopefully next month. 16 park, and the Park Board has said probably about a 16 However, it is in substantial 17 12-acre park with the balance in a cash donation would 17 conformance with that plan. 18 be better for their needs. So we will modify that 18 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. 19 portion of the plan as we cane forward with a 19 MR. YOUNG: I will be happy to answer any 20 preliminary plat; but again, it will not involve any 20 questions. I do have the public notice and affidavit 21 variances. 21 that goes along with that. 22 The total lot count may be adjusted 22 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. With that, I'd be 23 because of that additional acreage and development 23 happy to entertain any comments, questions, whatever, 24 versus park area, but it would be within your zoning 24 from the public. DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 8 9 1 (No response.) 1 probably be called Old Faxon Road at some point, and 2 MR. LINDBLOM: I knew it was going to be a 2 obviously there is a future extension of the road, but 3 short meeting. 3 it has not been indicated to me that I was to try to 4 Okay. Yes? 4 acquire that property. 5 MR. BELL: My name is Jay Bell; and with 5 MR. SCHOPPE: Tan, if I could add to 6 regard to this development, there is a piece of 6 that -- 7 property that a road would be going across on that 7 MR. LINDBLOM: Sure. 8 property which we own; and we haven't been contacted 8 MR. SCHOPPE: -- dust from the City's 9 with regards to that; and I was wondering how soon that 9 perspective. I know it is the plans of the City to 10 that road would be planned to be put in and into 10 have that road extended to Route 47, and the City plans 11 service and how soon would we be contacted with regards 11 to be in contact with the two land owners in the near 12 to this road I guess from the City or from the 12 future one way or another, through the developer or the 13 developer. 13 City, so that the proper arrangements can be made for 14 MR. LINDBLOM: Mr. Young, do you have a 14 right-of-way acquisition and road improvements. 15 comment on that? 15 Although it hasn't been done now, it is planned to be 16 MR. YOUNG: It has not been requested of me 16 done in the near future. 17 to negotiate or try to acquire that property. We have 17 MR. LINDBLOM: That is the location we are 18 shown -- we have shown a sub-street with the -- 18 talking about; is that correct? 19 adjacent to the property that he is talking about, but 19 MR. YOUNG: That is correct. 20 we have not incorporated that in our plan. It is shown 20 MR. BELL: Yes, it is. 21 as a dashed-in road alignment to meet with the City's 21 MR. SCHOPPE: Should those discussions not 22 master transportation plan for the future. 22 prove to be fruitful, as the concept plan has been laid 23 We have two other points of access 23 out, the good access can still be provided to the 24 to the subdivision now off of Faxon Road, what will 24 development even without that. There is -- two access DepoOcurt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 10 11 1 points are being provided on the comprehensive plan. 1 before the next preliminary plan comes in should this 2 So there is a fallback position if we are not able to 2 move forward. 3 pull that off. 3 MR. LINDBLOM: Andy, do you have a 4 MR. LINDBLOM: I guess I don't want to 4 question? 5 speak for the City but I would suggest that maybe you 5 MR. KUBALA: No, Mike has said some of them 6 direct your question to City Hall and see if either the 6 except that I had recalled at the last meeting we were 7 City administrator or somebody in that office will be 7 told the City had made some preliminary negotiations 8 able to tell you what their thinking is. 8 with the land owner, and that apparently has not 9 MR. BELL: We have a letter to say and it 9 occurred. 10 was my understanding that we were going to go through 10 MR. BELL: Yes, that is correct. That has 11 the developer and the developer would be contacting us. 11 not occurred and that is when I brought it to Tony's 12 No one has contacted us. We sent 12 attention out in the hallway when he had made reference 13 the letter in to Tony Graff with regards to right to 13 that he had contacted all the property owners. We were 14 farm, berms, buffers, things of that nature. 14 one that was not contacted. 15 MR. SCHOPPE: I just reviewed this with 15 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Other questions or 16 Tony earlier today. It is the City's intention to have 16 comments? Yes, sir. 17 either the developer or the City -- the City would 17 MR. MARSHALL: My name is Phil Marshall. 18 prefer the developer contact you. If they are 18 First is a question. 19 reluctant to do that, the City will contact you to see 19 I am on Amanda Lane. With this 20 if we can work out the acquisition of proper right of 20 becoming part of Yorkville, does that mean that area 21 way, and that is to be happening soon. 21 which is unincorporated right now get annexed? 22 MR. SCHILLINGER: It will happen before the 22 MR. LINDBLOM: It does not mean that. 23 next plan comes into us? 23 MR. MARSHALS,: Because I believe you 24 MR. SCHOPPE: Those contacts will be made 24 surround that area then. DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 12 13 1 MR. KRA4ER: It would still require, 1 MR. MARSHALL: Okay. Thank you. 2 Mr. Marshall, a voluntary petition to annex into your 2 MR. LINDBLOM: Thank you. 3 property or any neighbors of yours that chose to annex 3 Yes, sir. 4 to the City that they touched, some portion of the 4 MR. LOFTUS: Bob Loftus, I have a question 5 City. At least in the last 22 years, we have not 5 on the -- we heard there may be a road that goes 6 chosen to as a City exercise any power even when we 6 through to Eldamain. Is there anything -- would Faxon 7 have totally surrounded a property to force and annex 7 be extended or was there any plans for that? 8 any residents into the City. 8 MR. LINDBLOM: Mr. Young, do you have -- 9 MR. MARSHALL: Okay. Thank you. 9 MR. YOUNG: Faxon extending to the west? 10 Second, this development is rather 10 MR. LOFI'US: Yes, to the west to Eldamain 11 large and right now Cannonball has become a bypass for 11 which would probably take a lot of traffic I reckon. 12 47 and 34 for people coming from Sandwich, and it's 12 MR. YOUNG: That is really beyond the scope 13 getting fairly busy. I would like to see sidewalks 13 of our property. Maybe Mike can direct that in terms 14 along Cannonball as part of this -- as part of some 14 of the transportation plan to the west of our site. 15 sort of comprehensive plan if that can done, and I 15 MR. SCHOPPE: Yes, Faxon Road is planned to 16 think 47 access for this subdivision would be very 16 have a connection with Eldamain. As we know it right 17 irtgortant and be part of the plan as opposed to what it 17 now, the Faxon Road alignment would change as it is 18 appears is an option at a later date. 18 shown on that plan. 19 (Whereupon, Mr. Crouch 19 MR. YOUNG: Yes. 20 entered the meeting at this 20 MR. SCHOPPE: And Beecher Road is planned 21 time.) 21 to be extended to the south. As you go west from here, 22 MR. LINDBLOM: We hope to have answers to 22 the first intersection would be at Beecher Road, but it 23 that or at least what progress is being made on that 23 is planned to go on further to the west at that point. 24 next month. 24 MR. LOFI'US: What about the sewer? Do we DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 14 15 1 have something planned for the sewer going west of this 1 I would think if they are bringing 2 property, and my next -- a question in relation to 2 it out that way, it would help the City in the future 3 that, I don't know if it is the proper time to bring up 3 too because on the trap it shows their office I believe 4 the sewer or not right now. 4 it is -- 5 MR. LINDBLOM: Sure. 5 MR. SCHOPPE: Right now there is a sanitary 6 MR. LOFTUS: But maybe it is a legal 6 line. That line currently has the capacity to handle 7 question. Does the developer have to bring the sewer 7 this development, and that line lies in Cannonball 8 up to the ad3acent property owner's property? Is there 8 Trail essentially. 9 something like that, Dan? 9 The big picture plan is that roughly 10 MR. KRAMER: Our ordinance provides that 10 half of this property would drain to the southeast and 11 when we are extending mains, depending on which 11 go into that line. In the future, that will be what is 12 direction it comes that they go to the far side of the 12 referred to as the Rob Roy interceptor. 13 property. A lot of that depends on the route. I have 13 MR. LOFTUS: That is the notice we got in 14 no idea what we are looking at at this point. 14 the mail. 15 MR. LOFTUS: Well, put it in the record 15 MR. SCHOPPE: That line is planned to be 16 that we would request that the developer brings the 16 installed as developments occur along the Rob Roy 17 sewer and water up to our property line to the west. 17 Creek, and the west or the northwesterly half of this 18 MR. LINDBLOM: To the west. 18 property generally would then flow into that line. 19 MR. LOFIUS: Yes, thank you. 19 That is how it is generally planned to be serviced. 20 MR. SCHOPPE: Mr. Loftus, can you show me 20 MR. LOFTUS: Great, and in relation, was 21 where your property is. 21 that going to take in the new development that they are 22 MR. LOFTUS: The corner of Beecher and 22 bringing on 34 on the Sexton farm? Is that the same 23 Faxon. We just built a hone. We would like to see 23 sewer line that they are -- 24 sewer and water up there. 24 MR. SCHOPPE: Yes, it is the Rob Roy line. DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 DepoCcurt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 16 17 1 MR. LOFTUS: The Rob Roy line, great. 1 So I was wondering whether he indeed 2 Thank you. 2 has widened the lots that face Cannonball as was 3 MR. LINDBLOM: Mr. Mayor, do you have 3 suggested in the minutes of the Planning Commission mission 4 anything? 4 before, if that was one of the changes that was made, 5 MAYOR PROCHASKA: I don't have anything. 5 so that they would look more like the lots that face 6 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Anybody else? 6 Cannonball that are in the Cannonball Estates 7 MR. CRUZ: Wayne Cruz, I am a director in 7 Subdivision. 8 the Rob Roy Drainage District, and I have not received 8 MR. YOUNG: The depth of the lots have 9 any information about this Rob Roy interceptor thing. 9 increased and the plan clearly shows a 25-foot 10 MR. LINDBLOM: Can you answer that one? 10 landscape easement separate from the normal rear yard 11 MR. KRAMER: No. 11 setback situation and also that access point that was 12 MR. SCHOPPE: I can follow up on that. 12 on Cannonball has been eliminated. Those are the 13 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. We will follow up on 13 changes in that area that are taking place. 14 it and see that -- 14 MR. LINDBLOM: Could you hear that? 15 MR. CRUZ: I think we should have it, yes. 15 MS. PRICE: Yes. My question though was 16 MR. LINDBLOM: -- to see if something 16 whether the lots had been widened as far as -- not the 17 should be done. 17 depth. We are not concerned about how deep they are. 18 MR. CRUZ: Yes, soon. 18 Our concern was how wide they are when they face 19 MR. LINDBLOM: Martha? 19 Cannonball such as they are on the Cannonball Estates; 20 MS. PRICE: Martha Price. My question may 20 and in the minutes, Mr. Schoppe was quoted as saying 21 not be appropriate since this is just a zoning hearing. 21 that perhaps they could look at standards on Cannonball 22 However, Mr. Young made reference that they had made 22 Estates. The lots backing up to Cannonball Trail had 23 some changes on the concept plan based on what the 23 to meet certain standards in that subdivision. 24 Planning Carmission had said before. 24 I am wondering whether that couldn't DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 DepoCcurt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 18 19 1 be applied to this development or whether that was 1 concerns? 2 pursued at all. It is not the depth that we are 2 MR. KUBALA: I move we close the public 3 concerned about. It is the width so it is more 3 hearing. 4 compatible with the other lots and other homes that are 4 MR. LINDBLOM: Motion has been made to 5 already along Cannonball Trail which are, of course, 5 close the public hearing. 6 much larger lots than what was proposed. 6 Is there a second? 7 MR. SCHOPPE: Let me try to clarify that. 7 MS. LUCIETTO: I will second. 8 We have looked at the lot sizes on the Cannonball 8 MR. LINDBLOM: It has been moved and 9 Estates. They do have larger lots, but those lots back 9 seconded. 10 up to Cannonball Trail, and we would plan to have that 10 Is there further discussion on the 11 similar type of treatment extended to the north. 11 motion? 12 I don't think that lot size is being 12 (No response.) 13 shown on that plan yet. It is a zoning matter; but 13 MR. LINDBLpM: Hearing none, all in favor 14 through the annexation process, I think there is 14 signify by saying aye. 15 perhaps language that could be put in the annexation 15 (Whereupon, there was a 16 agreement that can make that happen. 16 course of ayes.) 17 Dan, is that a possibility? 17 MR. LINDBIOM: Opposed? 18 MR. KRAMER: Sure, if it was in the 18 (No response.) 19 annexation agreement. 19 MR. LINDBLOM: Motion passed. This public 20 MR. SCHOPPE: Even though it is not a PUD, 20 hearing is now closed. 21 there is mechanisms that we have got to be able to make 21 (Whereupon proceedings were 22 that happen. 22 then had which are not 23 MR. K.RAMER: Certainly. 23 herein transcribed.) 24 MR. LINDBLOM: Any other questions or 24 * * * * * DepoCcurt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 20 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS ) ) SS. 2 COUNTY OF KENDALL ) 3 I, Nicola Gengler, C.S.R., No. 84-3780, do 4 hereby certify that the proceedings had in the 5 above-entitled cause were recorded stenographically by 6 me and reduced to typewriting via computer-aided 7 transcription under my personal direction; and that the 8 foregoing is a true and correct transcript of the 9 proceedings had at the time and place previously 10 specified. 11 IN WITNESS WHEREOF I have hereunto set my 12 hand this 21st day of May, 2003. r 13 14 � Nico a Gengier, C. .R. 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DepoCourt Reporting Service (630) 983-0030 YORX514.TXT Page 1 -------------------------- 18:14,15,19 change 4:5; 5:15; 13:17 developments 15:16 * annexed 11:21 changes 7:4; 16:23; 17:4, difference 4:12; 5:6 -------------------------- another 9:12 13 direct 10:6; 13:13 * 19:24 answer 7:19; 16:10 chose 5:10; 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